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With one in five new students reporting sexual harassment | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
in their first week of term, universities take steps | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
Sexual harassment and abuse on campus. | :00:08. | :00:34. | |
Is enough being done to keep students safe? | :00:35. | :00:36. | |
Scottish and UK Brexit ministers meet for the first | :00:37. | :00:38. | |
And cutting-edge technology that's breaking down | :00:39. | :00:46. | |
It's that time of year when tens of thousands of young people | :00:47. | :01:00. | |
are embarking on a new chapter as students, often living away | :01:01. | :01:02. | |
Freshers' Week is meant to be fun but for a significant minority | :01:03. | :01:11. | |
of students the first week of term is marred by sexual harassment | :01:12. | :01:14. | |
This year, for the first time, several of Scotland's universities | :01:15. | :01:17. | |
are taking steps to tackle the problem. | :01:18. | :01:19. | |
This woman says she was sexually assaulted when she was a student. | :01:20. | :01:30. | |
The case went to trial but the accused was found not guilty. She | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
says the attack had a devastating effect on her and her studies. I | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
don't remember agreeing to it or anything like that. And I find | :01:40. | :01:47. | |
myself being strangled and raped, basically, and it was a very scary | :01:48. | :01:53. | |
experience and I remember running out of the place terrified, running | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
into some workers to help me and get me back to my friend who I was out | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
with, and he phoned the police. The first week of University is supposed | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
to be one of the best times of your life. But one in five students have | :02:07. | :02:11. | |
reported experiencing some sort of sexual harassment during the first | :02:12. | :02:15. | |
week, according to a report by the NUS. Sexual violence is a problem | :02:16. | :02:20. | |
for universities around the country but it is on campus in Glasgow that | :02:21. | :02:23. | |
staff and students have decided to take action and do something about | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
it. Over the past 18 months the University of Glasgow has been | :02:28. | :02:31. | |
working jointly with the University of Glasgow Caledonian and with Rape | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
Crisis Scotland and Police Scotland to put into place a strategy to | :02:37. | :02:43. | |
raise awareness about sexual violence on campus, to train | :02:44. | :02:45. | |
students to recognise and identify and be able to signpost to other | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
services when students might report or disclose that they have | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
experienced unwanted sexual attention or sexual violence | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
perpetrated against them and put into strategies in order to make it | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
easier for students to know where to go and where to report and to | :03:03. | :03:08. | |
support them if they wish to report. Are you OK? These Freshers' Week | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
helpers are on hand to show new students the ropes but this year | :03:15. | :03:17. | |
Glasgow University volunteers have been trained in how to give support | :03:18. | :03:21. | |
and advice to victims of sexual assault. The initiative is joint | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
project with Glasgow Caledonian University, but about their students | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
concerned about the scale of the problem. Sexual violence as a prime | :03:31. | :03:34. | |
area is chronically underreported so the issue, we're not suggesting | :03:35. | :03:40. | |
Glasgow has a huge problem that is not replicated everywhere else, this | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
is a problem in society and universities should take the lead. | :03:45. | :03:49. | |
What do students think? Tackling it head on and getting people from the | :03:50. | :03:52. | |
beginning of University life would be good to raise awareness. We talk | :03:53. | :03:57. | |
about rape and hear about that but not the smaller areas of sexual | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
harassment, which is a bigger problem, the way people talk to | :04:03. | :04:06. | |
women on campus, for example. There is definitely an issue, I have not | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
experienced it yet, I hope I don't, but we should try to combat it. Rape | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
crisis have developed the training being delivered on campus. Something | :04:17. | :04:21. | |
like one in seven women students have experienced physical violence | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
and sexual assault whilst at university and something like 68% | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
have experienced sexual harassment, a significant number have | :04:31. | :04:33. | |
experienced things like unwanted touching or groping on a night out | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
and those things are commonly experienced. This is a pilot year | :04:38. | :04:41. | |
for the initiative but it is hoped it will be rolled out again next | :04:42. | :04:43. | |
year. Well, joining me now to talk | :04:44. | :04:45. | |
about all this from London is lawyer and author of the book 'Why Rape | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
Culture is a Dangerous Myth', And here in the studio | :04:51. | :04:52. | |
is Dr Kallia Manoussaki, psychology lecturer | :04:53. | :04:56. | |
at the University of Good evening to both of you. There | :04:57. | :05:05. | |
are worrying statistics in the report. If my daughter was going to | :05:06. | :05:10. | |
university, I would be pretty worried about that. It is worrying | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
but it is not only this year, this year thankfully attention has been | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
brought to it, sexual violence has been going on for as long as human | :05:19. | :05:24. | |
beings have been living on the earth. It is just that recently we | :05:25. | :05:32. | |
have tried to bring about some sort of solution and universities have | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
been a little bit slow to deal with this problem but we are doing | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
something and we're very proud about that. Your university launched the | :05:41. | :05:46. | |
campaign yesterday. What is it you hope to achieve? Well, through | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
external partnerships we hope to create spaces for students to learn | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
about all sorts of issues relating to sexual violence and were hoping | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
they'd teach others, without students will lead workshops and | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
focus groups and art projects and help each other because for us, the | :06:07. | :06:12. | |
solution lies in changing destructive attitudes because we | :06:13. | :06:17. | |
believe that it is the attitudes that actually provide a fertile | :06:18. | :06:21. | |
ground for sexual violence to happen in the first place. It informs all | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
of our decisions. Luke Gittos, what do you make of initiatives like | :06:28. | :06:33. | |
this? These statistics have been around for a long time, we had a | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
report from the NHS a few years ago with roughly the same statistic but | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
it is worth looking closer at it, the one in five statistic is based | :06:42. | :06:46. | |
on a self-selecting survey which means the NUS actively encourage | :06:47. | :06:50. | |
people to respond to the survey and deliver reports. That is a classic | :06:51. | :06:54. | |
mythological mistake because you encourage people who have something | :06:55. | :06:56. | |
to report rather than a sample that is random. I think it is definitely | :06:57. | :07:04. | |
overestimating the problem, on a campus context, there is no reliable | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
evidence that sexual violence is more prevalent in university or any | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
evidence of any epidemic. Throughout the history of rape discussion from | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
the 70s onwards universities have always been a site where people | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
argue that sexual violence takes place because it is that it was more | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
promiscuous place but the evidence tells us that students are far less | :07:27. | :07:32. | |
than they were, they are more afraid of going out and being sexually | :07:33. | :07:35. | |
liberated and that is the real issue. With all the fear we stoking | :07:36. | :07:41. | |
up around sexual violence on campus, students are becoming more worried | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
about living a really important aspect of their personal lives, | :07:45. | :07:47. | |
their sexual lives, when they meet people, for the love and have | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
relationships and we are creating such a toxic environment around the | :07:52. | :07:55. | |
discussion, this talk of violence and assaults in nightclubs, all of | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
this is still in the minds of students with the idea that anybody | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
out there is a potential rapist and that is incredibly problematic. What | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
is your response to that? Were actually making students fearful, | :08:09. | :08:13. | |
that low-level Everyday Sexism is not the same as being under the | :08:14. | :08:21. | |
threat of sexual violence? -- every day sex. This is not about sex at | :08:22. | :08:27. | |
universities as such, this is universities recognising that sexual | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
assault happens in the world, everywhere, in bedrooms, behind | :08:31. | :08:37. | |
alleyways, in front of bins, and it also happens during university life, | :08:38. | :08:42. | |
this is not about students, university suddenly terrifying | :08:43. | :08:44. | |
students by implying something will happen at university. But there are | :08:45. | :08:53. | |
aren't similar campaign starting in work, this is for young people as | :08:54. | :09:00. | |
students? This is not just about higher institutions, also secondary | :09:01. | :09:06. | |
institutions and primary schools, taking their responsibilities much | :09:07. | :09:09. | |
more seriously, we do not want to just teach students about different | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
disciplines, we want to encourage them to become socially responsible | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
citizens, it is part of our learning programme, not because suddenly | :09:19. | :09:21. | |
universities have become a place where rape happens all the time but | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
because universities recognise that rape happens in the world at large | :09:26. | :09:31. | |
and we want to embed this within our educational programmes, we want to | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
change attitudes as part of our educational programmes to prepare | :09:36. | :09:37. | |
them for the world, not just university life. What is wrong with | :09:38. | :09:44. | |
that? I don't know what it means. Sexual violence is a very public at | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
a problem. There is an enormous amount of information but it is | :09:49. | :09:51. | |
often difficult to ascertain what the truth is and if you look at the | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
statistics, there is a wide range of problems with identifying any clear | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
trends. We don't very little about sexual violence perpetrators, we | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
know they tend to be repeat offenders, they tend to be targeted | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
in what they do and we know that they tend to assault people close to | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
them. All of which is counteracted by the student awareness movement | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
which seems to encourage the idea that almost anyone you meet in a | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
nightclub is liable to take you home and force you to have sex with them. | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
The idea that all of this is about making students aware that sexual | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
violence exists in the world is counter-productive. Students should | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
learn about sexual violence but they should learn about the serious | :10:33. | :10:35. | |
academic work that goes on around the topic. There is a vast amount. | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
There is all manner of books they can read. That is not what this | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
movement is about, it is about stoking fear and panic around an | :10:45. | :10:47. | |
issue they don't really need to worry about. You are shaking their | :10:48. | :10:54. | |
head? Universities are place of learning and sexual violence is such | :10:55. | :11:01. | |
a multifaceted issue. We take our responsibility very seriously, our | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
student volunteers, our male student volunteers as well as female | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
volunteers would be quite taken aback by the statements because they | :11:12. | :11:17. | |
are very proud that universities take a moral education and social | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
education as seriously as academic education. In fact, we are looking | :11:22. | :11:28. | |
at rape from an academic point of view, we are looking at research and | :11:29. | :11:33. | |
we are looking at how attitude changes can make a real difference. | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
The World Health Organisation report recently said that one of the most | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
important things educational institutions can do is raise | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
awareness about how attitudes actually link to sexual violence. | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
Very briefly, we're almost out of time... This idea that attitudes | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
lead to sexual violence has been debunked. There is a fantastic book, | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
a history of rape and sexual violence, there is a chapter | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
dedicated to arguments that a particular environments lead to an | :12:07. | :12:09. | |
increase in sexual violence, it is used to demonise working-class | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
people in the past, people say working-class people are more likely | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
to be rapists because they live in a debased culture, they said that | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
about black culture. Now, what we have, we have a situation where... | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
We have to leave it there. Thank you both for coming in this evening. | :12:29. | :12:30. | |
Scotland's Brexit Minister says it's "inconceivable" that the Scottish | :12:31. | :12:32. | |
government won't be involved in negotiations on devolved issues. | :12:33. | :12:36. | |
Mike Russell held his first meeting with his Westminster counterpart | :12:37. | :12:38. | |
David Davis earlier today in Downing Street. | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
Afterwards they pledged to establish a "good working relationship". | :12:43. | :12:44. | |
Here's our political correspondent, Nick Eardley. | :12:45. | :12:52. | |
Trying to find a Brexit approach that satisfies the UK and Scottish | :12:53. | :12:58. | |
governments could be a challenge. Today was a first step to trying to | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
figure out how that might happen. Two things in particular today were | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
important. Firstly, trying to establish a formal process whereby | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
Scottish ministers can feed into the UK Brexit strategy. In particular, | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
on devolved issues, Mike Russell was keen to say he thinks Scottish | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
ministers have to play a pretty crucial role in talks with Europe. | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
Secondly, it was a chance for the Scottish government to highlight its | :13:28. | :13:30. | |
key interest- the one we have heard a lot about in the last few weeks is | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
membership, continued membership of the European single market. After | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
the talks in Downing Street today, I caught up with Mike Russell. | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
Devolution is clearly massively embedded in the whole of the UK, we | :13:45. | :13:50. | |
believe in moving on from that but it would be inconceivable that areas | :13:51. | :13:55. | |
of devolved responsibility were negotiated on and away by anybody | :13:56. | :13:58. | |
else because they are the responsibility of the Scottish | :13:59. | :14:01. | |
government and parliament and we have to make it absolutely clear. | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
There are clearly things you think are crucial to Scotland's interest. | :14:06. | :14:11. | |
What happens if the UK government does not incorporate these things in | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
its overall strategy? Is at the point at which you say we need | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
another referendum? We have not even started those discussions, we are in | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
the process of setting them up, you can ask me when they are under way | :14:24. | :14:28. | |
and the moment I go into those discussions with the positive | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
intention of putting a case and the argument. There will be more on the | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
formal process of Scottish involvement in the next few weeks. | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
That issue of the single market is accommodated one. Scottish ministers | :14:42. | :14:44. | |
want continued membership, UK ministers want access but they also | :14:45. | :14:50. | |
want to reduce migration from the EU, something seen as a key reason | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
for the leave out. Then the European side says you cannot have one or the | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
other, you cannot have access to the single market without free movement | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
so definitely a square to be circled. David Davis was unable to | :15:04. | :15:09. | |
talk to us after those talks with Mike Russell today but we did speak | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
to David Mondale, who also spoke to Mike Russell about the Scotland role | :15:14. | :15:14. | |
with the UK approach. We could have had pharyngeal | :15:15. | :15:23. | |
arrangements in relation to Scotland, where there were specific | :15:24. | :15:26. | |
issues that related to Scotland and were not as prevalent in the other | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
parts of the UK, but the case needs to be made and the detail needs to | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
be brought forward, that is part of what this exercise is about. It is | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
important that the negotiation position is based on factual | :15:41. | :15:45. | |
analysis, on listening. We are at a very early stage in the process, we | :15:46. | :15:51. | |
have to understand how we take forward the respective interests of | :15:52. | :15:58. | |
Scotland and other parts of the UK and how the negotiations will be | :15:59. | :16:00. | |
struck. Some movement towards a process for | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
Scottish involvement. What could be harder is finding the deal that | :16:07. | :16:12. | |
satisfies everyone, Scotland, the UK and Europe. The talks will continue | :16:13. | :16:13. | |
in the weeks to come. Now, smart glasses that | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
recognise your friends and can read you a menu if you're partially | :16:18. | :16:19. | |
sighted, goggles that can help someone with no sight loss | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
experience a variety Just some of the cutting-edge | :16:23. | :16:25. | |
technology on show in Glasgow at a Europe-wide conference | :16:26. | :16:29. | |
which got underway today. The TechShare event aims | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
to highlight the potential of innovation to transform | :16:34. | :16:35. | |
the lives of blind people. What if the world look like this? Or | :16:36. | :16:52. | |
like this? That is the reality for 188,000 Scottish people with | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
significant side loss. The technology can help. The theme of | :16:57. | :17:01. | |
the Europe wide conference that started today in Glasgow. Mainstream | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
technology is becoming more accessible, allowing interfaces to | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
talk, so we have some songs here showing their smart TVs, allowing | :17:11. | :17:15. | |
people to use the interface if they have no useful vision, by navigating | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
it with speech. We have the chance to see what is possible to do, not | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
necessarily using your vision, but by using speech or tactile access to | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
gain the same level of opportunity that other people take for granted. | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
One company is exhibiting a smart camera that clips onto glasses. They | :17:36. | :17:38. | |
claim it could learn faces and read text. Imagine you enter a | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
restaurant, the waiter hands you a menu. If you can't read it with your | :17:45. | :17:50. | |
eyes, if you are wearing this, it is simple, you pick up the menu, point | :17:51. | :17:54. | |
at it with your finger, the device will start reading it to you. Lentil | :17:55. | :18:01. | |
soup served with crusty bread. When you want to stop, give it a stop | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
gesture, and it stops reading. It can read text, recognise faces and | :18:06. | :18:12. | |
identify products. It is translating visual information into audio for | :18:13. | :18:15. | |
people who cannot see or who have sight loss. What technology do | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
people actually use and what difference does it make? I use a | :18:20. | :18:25. | |
mixture of Braille, tactile, and also audio technology. I have an | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
iPhone and iPod that speak to me and screen reader software that reads my | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
computer screen, so I'd use that to read e-mails. I use dictation, to | :18:37. | :18:43. | |
dictate e-mails and touch type. Loads, I listen to books and radio | :18:44. | :18:51. | |
and podcasts and all that, a talking microwave... It breaks down the | :18:52. | :18:54. | |
physical barriers that now do not exist. For people who don't have | :18:55. | :19:00. | |
experience of blindness or side loss, this can offer a tremendous | :19:01. | :19:05. | |
insight into the type of challenges that people with vision loss will | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
face, but using digital technology. It is a unique and Judy to explore | :19:11. | :19:13. | |
first-hand what the fragility is might be, what the challenges are. | :19:14. | :19:21. | |
These goggles are supposed to allow you to experience different sight | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
loss conditions, so what IMC aimed at the moment through the goggles | :19:27. | :19:30. | |
and you can see on the screen is a sense of what it would be like to | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
have cataracts. If I go to the menu and change it to better night as | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
pigment hoser, you can see that people with this condition | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
effectively experience a tunnel of light in a world which is otherwise | :19:45. | :19:52. | |
dark. I suppose the idea is so that product designers and even family | :19:53. | :19:55. | |
members get a sense of what different side loss conditions are | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
really like. But technology will never replace some things. | :20:01. | :20:05. | |
With me now to discuss some of today's news are the journalist | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
Anna Burnside and the former Labour MP Tom Harris. | :20:10. | :20:16. | |
That begin with the story of a nurse with cancer who wrote to the First | :20:17. | :20:23. | |
Minister, asking for reform of drug funding. She was told she will be | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
given her medicine on the NHS. Nicola Sturgeon told MSPs that the | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
NHS would now provide the prescription. | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
Kezia Dugdale had raised the issue. The system has to be reformed so | :20:38. | :20:40. | |
that in future cancer patients do not have to hold bake sales to find | :20:41. | :20:45. | |
the money they need for the cancer treatment that they need. Can I ask | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
the First Minister again, when the review is published, can she assure | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
the chamber that cases like this will never happen again? I cannot | :20:54. | :21:02. | |
and I will not give an assurance that no patient would ever again | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
find that they cannot access a drug that they think they should, because | :21:07. | :21:12. | |
in any system that has to assess drugs, there will inevitably be hard | :21:13. | :21:17. | |
vision that are difficult for all of us where drugs are not accessible | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
for a particular patient. You write for the record, they | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
published this powerful story. A fantastic story for us. Do you think | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
that Nicola Sturgeon was right to say she could not promise to be able | :21:33. | :21:39. | |
to do this in lots of other cases? Unfortunately I do. She cannot be | :21:40. | :21:44. | |
writing blank cheques from behind her lectin. It is not appropriate, | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
she is not the appropriate person to make blanket statements on who can | :21:50. | :21:59. | |
and cannot get certain drugs. Especially as technology has | :22:00. | :22:01. | |
progressed, there will always be hard raking stories like this one, | :22:02. | :22:08. | |
and our instinct is to want to help everybody. She has two sign off on | :22:09. | :22:16. | |
the cheques, she knows that it is not possible. It is ghastly for her | :22:17. | :22:19. | |
and it is a political Achilles heel for anyone in that position. Kezia | :22:20. | :22:24. | |
Dugdale has the moral high ground, this woman's friends are holding | :22:25. | :22:29. | |
bake sales to pay for her treatment, nobody wants that, but she cannot | :22:30. | :22:38. | |
just say, everybody, here they are, and throw them out like Smarties. | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
The Scottish medicines Consortium have to look at all of the evidence | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
and make these difficult decisions. I wonder how helpful if this went it | :22:48. | :22:53. | |
is bypassed. Those decisions are better taken not by ministers or | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
politicians, who obviously going to more susceptible to newspaper | :22:59. | :23:03. | |
headlines. Nicola Sturgeon was right. If Kezia Dugdale found | :23:04. | :23:11. | |
herself in Nicola Sturgeon's position, she would have to say the | :23:12. | :23:14. | |
same thing. There is a limited amount of money, we cannot start | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
doling out life-saving medicines based either on media pressure or | :23:20. | :23:27. | |
under political pressure. It has got to be done on the medical evidence. | :23:28. | :23:36. | |
In England it is done by NICE, in Scotland we have our own system, | :23:37. | :23:40. | |
that is better than it being in ministers' hands. Hillary Clinton | :23:41. | :23:46. | |
back on the campaign trail after having pneumonia. Her health has | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
become a central issue. She tackled it had on in her first public | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
appearance in a few hours ago. As you may know, I recently had a | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
cough that turned out to be pneumonia. I tried to power through | :23:59. | :24:06. | |
it. Even I had to admit that may be a few days of rest would do me good. | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
What do you think of how she has handled this? She has pulled it | :24:13. | :24:17. | |
back. She and the team handled that badly, it made them look secretive, | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
as if they had something to hide why not fronting it up in the first | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
place. I can understand why she did it, if she had not gone to the | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
memorial service and she had been in bed, she would have been pelted for | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
that. But she got pelted for going and struggling and having to be | :24:38. | :24:42. | |
escorted off into a van. That was the right decision now, to front it | :24:43. | :24:48. | |
up and make a joke of it. Everybody gets a cold and a cough. I don't | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
think anybody should realistically be holding that against her | :24:53. | :24:59. | |
suitability to be the president. You will know how carefully | :25:00. | :25:02. | |
stage-managed these things have to be, every detail. The background | :25:03. | :25:12. | |
music was James Brown, Feeling Good. Talk about protesting too much, they | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
don't do subtlety. I am nervous, in a situation where the Republicans | :25:18. | :25:19. | |
have got Donald Trump is the nominee, I'd wish the Democrats had | :25:20. | :25:27. | |
come up with another candidate who was far more trusted and popular. | :25:28. | :25:31. | |
Hillary Clinton is not trusted or popular. If she gets the presidency, | :25:32. | :25:36. | |
it will be because she is not dislike quite as much as Donald | :25:37. | :25:38. | |
Trump, which is a dangerous situation. There is a danger that | :25:39. | :25:45. | |
this plays into the idea that she is not trustworthy, there is a | :25:46. | :25:48. | |
cover-up, here we go again with them. The secrecy thing plays badly. | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
If Donald Trump wins, it will be the fault of the Democrats and Hillary | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
Clinton. Let's move on to the final story, Brexit. We heard that the | :25:59. | :26:05. | |
Scottish and UK ministers met for the first time in London today, it | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
was all smiles and pledges to work together, do you buy that? No, of | :26:10. | :26:16. | |
course not. It is ghastly, difficult and horrible decisions they have to | :26:17. | :26:24. | |
make. I see nothing but the debris of crumpled bits of paper and broken | :26:25. | :26:30. | |
dreams and promises on the conference table, I don't see this | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
going well at all. You led the Leave campaign in Scotland, you argued | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
about the positive benefits, are you still so optimistic? Yes. It is | :26:41. | :26:46. | |
vital that Mike Russell and the other ministers get closely involved | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
in these negotiations. The day after the referendum, David Cameron, the | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
first thing he said, before he resigned, was that he wanted all of | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
the devolved administrations to get involved in these discussions. | :27:01. | :27:07. | |
Fishing, which is already devolved, policy will be decided in Holyrood | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
after ten back row, which is really important. We need Scottish | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
ministers in there from the start. Arguing for the best possible deal | :27:17. | :27:21. | |
for our industry. Are you confident they will be embedded? I think they | :27:22. | :27:27. | |
well. The English ministers, the UK ministers, they know that | :27:28. | :27:34. | |
politically they need to get the Scottish ministers and the Northern | :27:35. | :27:37. | |
Irish and Welsh ministers on board, because there is a lot of talent | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
there, and the more they have, the better deal we will get. I wonder | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
what room for common ground there is. I hope there is some. We want to | :27:46. | :27:53. | |
get the best deal out of this we possibly can. I hope Tom's optimism | :27:54. | :28:01. | |
is grounded and that everybody can get over their differences and get | :28:02. | :28:07. | |
the best deal possible. You are not unnerved by this uncertainty? Is | :28:08. | :28:10. | |
that what you anticipate it would happen if there was a Leave vote? It | :28:11. | :28:16. | |
is wrong to say I am not on the, but I am more optimistic than people who | :28:17. | :28:24. | |
voted Remain. I think there are some amazing possibilities are potential | :28:25. | :28:31. | |
gains, out of this, as long as Scotland is represented at the core | :28:32. | :28:34. | |
of these discussions. We can win out of it. We will have to leave it | :28:35. | :28:37. | |
there. That's it for tonight | :28:38. | :28:38. | |
and for this week. Until then, have a good | :28:39. | :28:40. | |
weekend, bye bye. 50 years ago, | :28:41. | :29:09. | |
they became superstars in astronomy, | :29:10. | :29:13. |