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Now on BBC News, Scotland Decides: Referendum Today, with Sarah Smith.

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Tonight, with just over a fortnight to go

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until Scotland decides, a new survey shows the polls are tightening.

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As the gap between the two sides appears to be

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narrowing, the First Minister says "independence is closer than ever".

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It is moving many people, the thought that they have a

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once`in`a`lifetime to change the status of this country. That would

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be the biggest hangover in history. "independence is closer than ever".

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Has the campaign been more heat than light?

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We speak to both sides about whether voters are getting

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the information they need. And our correspondent is

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on the road with George Galloway, the political maverick determined

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to keep Scotland in the union. Good evening from Glasgow.

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Scotland's First Minister, Alex Salmond,

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says he believes that independence is closer than ever in the wake

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of an opinion poll which suggests the no campaign's lead has shrunk.

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The YouGov poll which excluded undecided voters put

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support for the union just 6% ahead, compared with 14% in mid`August.

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The First Minister has been speaking to our

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Political Editor Nick Robinson. The worry I would have is what we

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would feel like if we didn't take this opportunity. That is a downside

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of not being with you, what is a downside of going with you. You

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asked me what the concern is, and what is moving many people is having

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this once`in`a`lifetime opportunity to change the country, if they

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didn't take it that would be the biggest hangover in history. We are

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saying we will have the ingredients if we work together as a country to

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build a more prosperous and just society, that is the attraction of

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the yes message. Nobody will do better for the people of Scotland or

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do a better job or care more about it than the people who live and work

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in Scotland. You say you will get more childcare, as an example. Who

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will pay more in Scotland in their taxes to fund the ?700 million bill?

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Two ways, at the start of the process we will set out in our

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plans, including cancelling the Trident programme. Men and women are

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able to come back into the Labour force and the income they generate

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through income tax and a range of other taxes comes to the Scottish

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exchequer, where is currently 90% of it goes to the Exchequer in London,

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allowing us to fund childcare over ten years to enable that to happen.

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The Scottish Parliament's own figures say you need 40,000 women to

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go back to work. No, they were looking at one cohort. We are

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arguing for the policy over a 10`year period, that is a successive

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ten years of cohorts. So their figures are wrong? Wrong in the

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sense that they are looking at the policy over one year. Can we get the

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100,000 more people back into the workforce? Particularly women? In

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the last year we have had an increase in female employment of

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36,000. They say there are only 65,000 women available. This is not

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a one`year policy, there are successive generations and

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successive years of mothers, that is the point we are making. We are 70%

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already of women participating in the workforce in Scotland, much

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higher than the rest of the UK. In a country like Sweden it is 76% so why

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can't we have the same participation of the workforce as Sweden? Why

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can't we? Because they don't have access to the same system of

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childcare as they have in Sweden. We want that, which is why the radical

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policy has been put forward. You say Scotland will be fairer, the cuts

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will end, but you also seem to say nobody 's taxes will go up. Who will

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pay for these things? There plenty of cuts in nuclear weapons so

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we don't agree with expenditure. We have not put forward

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any proposals to change tax, if we had you would know about them. Is it

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straight with people to say actually somebody pays more in tax? We are

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projecting budget deficit of 2.4%, an increase in spending of 3% a

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year, is not a Princes Ransom, it is not a reckless spending policy. The

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current coalition is putting forward 1% per year, which means ?25 billion

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more cuts which is a dead`end policy, leaving people out of the

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workforce. You are promising business taxes will go down, you are

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not promising to increase the taxes of the rich. Only in the last few

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days this has been backed by a Nobel laureate, a member of the Scottish

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Council of economic advisers are very serious economist who these

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policies. Political Editor Nick Robinson.

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So let's get more on that new poll published

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in today's newspapers carried out by the polling organisation YouGov.

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It shows support for a yes vote has risen in the last month.

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Excluding the ''don't knows'', 53% of those asked said they

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to vote no. 47% would back independence.

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So taking that latest survey into account ` the poll of polls suggests

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the no campaign is now on 55%. The yes campaign is on 45%.

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That's according to an average of half a dozen recent polls taken,

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calculated by the What Scotland Thinks website.

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Labour's Jim Murphy has resumed his 100 streets in 100 days tour.

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The MP for East Renfrewshire temporarily halted the tour last

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week amid claims of organised intimidation by yes supporters.

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There was a noticeable police presence

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at the event in Edinburgh today. Mr Murphy insisted there was still

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a lot to play for. We always knew this was going to be

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close and the polls suggest that, but the only poll that matters is

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the one that happens on referendum day. I am confident the majority

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will speak out, who want change, the best of both worlds, more power in

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the Scottish parliament but don't want to take the enormous risk of

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leaving the UK, and we can change our country. David Cameron is

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temporary, independence is forever, and that is why we are campaigning

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to keep Scotland in the UK. a lot to play for.

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So with accusations of mud`slinging on both sides of the campaign are

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the voters being well served? Are they getting the facts

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which will help them decide which way to vote on the 18th?

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Earlier on BBC News, Victoria Derbyshire hosted

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a debate with 300 voters in Dundee. As a snapshot, I would like to ask

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you now, who here feels they have been able to get straightforward

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facts and information? ALL: No! I would say there were more saying no

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and yes! `` than yes. a debate with 300 voters in Dundee.

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You can listen to more of that debate on the Five Live website.

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With me now to discuss the tone of the campaign is Angus Millar

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from Yes Scotland, and in our Dundee studio is Connor McElwaine,

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who's a Better Together campaigner. How can it be that people still feel

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they are not getting enough information? They are put through

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this lance of the different perspectives, there is maybe not as

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much impartial information as people would like to see but ultimately we

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need to highlight that in amongst the competing facts and the

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argy`bargy, everyone agrees Scotland is one of the wealthiest countries

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in the world, that we will be the wealthiest country in the world ever

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to become independent and we have got what it takes. We say that we

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should believe in ourselves, we should believe in our ability to

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make Scotland a better place to live because nobody knows Scotland better

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and nobody would do a better job. There are unprecedented levels of

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voter engagement with this campaign. People are turning up to public

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meetings and town halls around the country, yet people still feel they

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don't have the information that will help them make up their minds. I

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think one of the main positive things to come out of this debate

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will be the impact that young people in particular have engaged in this

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issue in an unprecedented way. Looking beyond that, a broad range

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of people who would never have got involved in a political campaign are

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getting involved in this argument. What I would say is that I was in

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the audience of the five live debate today and we heard people literally

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crying out that they are not getting the answers they deserve. The SNP

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are the ones proposing what is on the ballot paper and it is only

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right they come forward with the answers to these sometimes very

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simple questions. There is little more than two weeks to and people

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still don't have answers to their pressing concerns. Problem is that

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voters don't believe either side when you paint different pictures of

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what an independent Scotland would be like, and they just don't know

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what will happen to their lives if Scotland voted yes. It is certainly

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true people don't trust politicians in general unfortunately, but in the

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yes campaign we are focused on day`to`day conversations between

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people and families in the workplace, people talking about what

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independence will mean and the real opportunities we have with

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independence to make Scotland a more prosperous country. People relate

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more to people they know and trust in their everyday lives and I think

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that is of far more value to the campaign then maybe two politicians

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debating on the TV for example. Are you worried by this latest poll that

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would show your lead is narrowing? No, I think it shows a consistent

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lead for the no campaign, and we are out every day campaigning for every

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vote, speaking to a lot of undecided voters who don't have the answers to

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the questions they need. We always expected the polls would narrow at

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this point but we continued to speak to undecided voters until the end of

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this campaign. We have seen Jim Murphy pelted with eggs, Alex

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this campaign. We have seen Jim Murphy pelted with eggs, Salmond has

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received death threats, is there a problem that things are getting too

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aggressive? I have been me subject of numerous personal attacks on

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social media. I went to the debate with Jim Murphy today and words

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cannot describe the atmosphere at that event, other than it was a

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horrible atmosphere. It must be a horrendous position to be in if you

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are on undecided voters, going along to one of these meetings and being

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worried that you will be shouted down if you ask a difficult question

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to one of the politicians proposing that we should go independent. I

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have got thick skin but it is a shame that this environment is

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existing in the campaign. I don't think it has any place in the

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campaign. This decision is irreversible and people need answers

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to the questions. Do you recognise that description of the campaign as

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nasty? No, I think there have been

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unacceptable incidents on both sides of the campaign and it is important

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to highlight that it is not just yes versus no campaigners.

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This is a tiny minority of people involved in the debate. The

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referendum has been usually positive for Scotland. We have a massive

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level of voter engagement and some people voting and discussing

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politics for the first time in decades. There are political

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discussions on the breakfast table, at the pub. It is a really exciting

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time for Scotland with people actively engaging about the future

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of the country. That is what we will take away from this campaign,

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regardless of how the vote goes. Tommy Sheridan and George Galloway

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are two well known political mavericks touring Scotland

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at the moment. They are both socialists but are

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on separate sides Our referendum correspondent

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Laura Bicker has spent time with both of them `

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tonight she reports from George This is not George Galloway's normal

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stomping ground but just one of the stops on his just say no to.

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Hundreds packed into the hall to hear him speak. Some are tired of

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hearing about it. But you have to listen. This was before the Respect

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party MP was attacked in London and on this night his harshest words

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were for his political opponents. One of the problems with Scottish

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Nationalists if they blind themselves to those facts that do

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not suit their argument. Some Yes campaign supporters were keen to

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hear him speak but did not agree with what they were hearing. Listen,

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you have 45 minutes. Put this in your pipe and smoke it. And come

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back. The distinctive hat and coat stayed on throughout the talk. His

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pacing and dreaded each sentence. It has been a difficult week for the

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Bradford West MP, so why take on another fight? I felt that the No

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campaign was not being energetic or eloquent enough in defence of what

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we have. My target by and large is working class people, Labour voters,

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left wing people who are beginning to move pretty wholesale towards the

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Scottish Nationalists position. It seems that many are keen to listen.

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He is a terrific orator and you just knew he would give you a laugh.

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These guys are fans so I thought I had better come along to see what

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they're talking about. Really enthusiastic. He takes no prisoners.

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Despite the odd bit of heckling, this was very much George

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Galloway's platform. For him, this is personal.

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The future of higher education in Scotland has played a major part

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Academics from institutions across the country have been

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discussing what impact independence might have on research.

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Gavin Esler spent the day talking about the issue in the historic

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For some thoughts about how education will play into the debate

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I am joined by Professor Murdoch and Professor Naismith. What do you

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you and for medical science if there are is a yes vote? For biomedical

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science it is difficult to see independence as being a positive

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outcome. I think we will suffer a little bit and funding could be cut

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off from some collaborations. I do not think it is the defining issue

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of the referendum but it will be difficult to see a positive for

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biomedical sciences. There is a lot of international collaboration, what

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do you make of that? I do not have any concerns just because a border

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goes up or comes down. Those who work on particular projects will

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continue to seek out those mines to work on similar projects. As for the

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funding, I have no idea which government would be a next in so I

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could not predict if it Conservative or Labour, or an SNP

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alliance. My main concern would be to emphasise that I do not think

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international research will be confined by boundaries. The British

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track record of funding finds perhaps has not been that good.

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Scotland gets more than its proportional share of funding

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however. That is correct. I think the track record of output has been

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outstanding in Britain. I agree that international collaboration of

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Wilmot N. But funded collaborations with England, I think that will end.

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Debates and discussions like this have been taking place all over

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Scotland. `` collaboration will not. Stay with BBC News for the latest

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on the Scottish referendum. Tomorrow ` on the eve of the NATO

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summit ` Gavin Esler will be live in Faslane to discuss the future

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of Scotland's defences. There's lots of analysis

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of all the issues of the campaign, including today an assessment

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from our Economics Correspondent Colletta Smith on what the future

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holds for Scotland's pensioners. That and much more

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at bbc.co.uk/scotlanddecides. A reminder you can join

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me every night at 7:30 Here on BBC News, just to bring you

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