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Scotland decides now, Referendum Today with Sarah Smith.

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Tonight, two leaders and two rival visions for the future of Scotland

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just days before voters decide. The Prime Minister says he wants

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Scotland to stay in the union with his head, heart and soul.

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The family is not a compromise or a second best. It is a magical

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identity that makes us more together than we can ever be apart. So please

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do not break this family apart. Alex Salmond says Thursday will be a

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once in a lifetime opportunity for Scotland as he stands alongside

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prominent business bankers. It's very substantial groups in

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Scottish business who say there is an opportunity from an independent

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Scotland, to create a prosperous economy but also a just society.

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Good evening from Glasgow. With just three days of campaigning to two

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before Thursday's referendum, both sides have intensified their battle

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to win votes. David Cameron has made an impassioned plea to voters to

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save the union and reject independence. The First Minister,

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Alex Salmond, accused his opponents of scaremongering and insisted a yes

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vote would be good for the economy. We'll discuss the day's events and

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what the final few days of the campaign might hold with political

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bloggers. Let's hear what both sides have been saying today. An appeal

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for voters from the Prime Minister who was speaking in Aberdeen.

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As you stand in the stillness of the polling booth, I hope you have asked

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yourself this, will my family and I truly will better off by going it

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alone? Will we really be more safe and secure? Do I really want to turn

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my back on the rest of Britain and why is it that so many people across

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the world are asking why would Scotland want to do that? Why?

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And if you don't know the answer to these questions, then please vote

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no. At the end of the day, all the

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arguments of this campaign can be reduced to a single fact ` we are

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better together. As you reach your final decision,

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please, please don't let anyone tell you you can't be a proud Scot and a

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proud Brit. APPLAUSE

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Please, don't lose faith in what this country is and what we can be.

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Don't forget what a great United Kingdom you are a part of, don't

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turn your backs on what is the best family in the nations in the world

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and the best hope for your family in this world. So please, from all of

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us, vote to stick together, vote to stay, vote to save our United

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Kingdom. Thank you.

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That was David Cameron in Aberdeen. Speaking in Edinburgh, Alex Salmond

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insisted there were plenty of companies who believed the yes vote

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would bolster Scotland's economy despite warnings to the contrary

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from banks and supermarkets. He spoke to the BBC's James Cook and a

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warning this clip contains flash photography.

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The fastest growing group in business has been Business for

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Scotland, supporting independence. We are demonstrating today, with

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some of the most serious business people in Scotland, men and women

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who're creating tens and thousands of jobs and careers, that there's

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very substantial groups of Scottish business, looking for a prosperous

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economy. There are negative things being said about Scotland. It was a

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nonsense to argue that the land of Adam Smith was incapable of grabbing

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our own finances and the demonstration from the Scottish job

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creators is people with plenty of confidence. You are almost

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suggesting that big oil, big businesses, big supermarkets,

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somehow don't have a mind of Nairn own `` their own, suggesting they

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have serious concerns about what an independent Scotland would look

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like, not least in terms of currency? I'd never suggest all big

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supermarkets did that. Many, Tesco, Aldi and others said they are never

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going to get involved in a political debate. One or two were gulled into

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the Prime Minister's scaremongering campaign. But I think these Scottish

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businesses were substantially confident. They see the future as

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creating a more prosperous economy but also see the importance of

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holding society together and creating a more just society.

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With just a few days left, what are the polls suggesting? Throughout

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the,pain, we have been following the poll of polls calculated by the what

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Scotland thinks website. It's based on half a dozen surveys and

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suggestses the No Campaign is on 51% and the Yes Campaign on 49%.

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With me now in the studio are two bloggers from both sides of the

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debate. Duncan is a Labour activist and a No supporter and Andrew will

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be voting yes. Thank you for coming in. Duncan, that was a very

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passionate plea we heard from the Prime Minister this afternoon and he

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set out a positive vision for what the UK could be if some other better

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together supporters had been doing that earlier, the polls might not be

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as tight? A lot of people have been saying positive things, but

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unfortunately, we tend to get mired down, especially when it's been

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three years of this debate. I think what we have seen recently is a

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refresher, a lot of people have rejoined the campaign or come into

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the campaign and we have seen some of the things revisited and some

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important points about the positive aspects of the UK, about how we get

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the strength of the UK with the powers of the Scottish Parliament

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and these have v come back into the debate and that's welcome. A

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slightly new message from Alex Salmond. He's saying it's a once in

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a lifetime opportunity to vote for independence. Better together have

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been saying the referendum is for life, don't vote yes because you

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want to give the Tories a kicking. Alex Salmond is worried people are

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tempted by the devolution offer and they want to give that a try for a

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few years, he's telling them, this is your one chance to vote for

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independence? I don't accept that interpretation of why he's

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responding in this way. It's strange to hear David Cameron talking about

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saying it's for ever as if Scots don't know it's for ever, as if we

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haven't been paying attention. There are lots of blow`ins to the debate

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after the YouGov poll but I don't think they have been following this

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kind of debate and it's challenging for better together that many Scots

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have already reached the point where they are making up their mind and

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giving a very serious look at things. Scots understand the risks

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and opportunities and I find it odd David Cameron's preaching to us as

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if we haven't already add this `` had this discussion. Alex Salmond

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was positioned with some yes supporting business leaders today

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and I think that was by accident this close to the vote. We have had

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warnings from big businesses about why independent Scotland's economy

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might be at risk. He's trying to shore that up by positioning himself

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with Business Today. He must be worried? He's reflecting the fact

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that business is not a monolithic thing. Small and medium sized

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businesses and multinationals which operate in Scotland and operate in

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the UK and certainly I know folk that work in business and they have

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a range of different perspectives. There are risks and opportunities on

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independence, just as there are risks and tuns with staying in the

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union. I don't Scots take this devolution

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offer seriously. It has suddenly materialised from the ether and

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nobody is taking it seriously. Let's stick with business. There were a

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lot of warnings from big banks and other companies about the dangers of

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independence. Is there a danger this might backfire? Scots don't like

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being told what to do and if they think big business is ganging up and

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telling them you cannot be independent then they might just

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vote for it. That's a story that the SNP and the yes campaign have been

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putting across. When you look at standard life under Royal Bank Of

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Scotland where we keep our savings, you have Asda and sell the bulk ``

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and other scoop markets where we do our shop. The ease the people

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involved in every aspect of our lives and the for all businesses, I

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run a small business, the reality is that if you introduce different

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regulation or currency risk, or any sort of export where it has

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previously been the home market, you introduce additional costs. It is

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simply honesty from these supermarkets to say distribution

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around Scotland is currently at a higher cost than distribution in the

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rest of the UK and that will be reflected in prices if we do vote

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for separation. Not all of the supermarkets say that, we should

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point out. Thanks for coming in to talk to was. For the half million

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pounds has been donated to the two rival campaigns in the referendum

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since last November. `` four and a half. Nor has been spent on this

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campaign and any other in Scotland's history. `` more. Over

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the last year, those with big money have been backing both sides of the

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debate. The total figure for political campaigning in Scotland

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has hit a record high. Today's figures show the total amounts given

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to the campaign organisations. Yes groups have received more than ?1.8

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million, and no campaigners have been given nearly two and no

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campaigners have been given nearly two and three quarters million

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pounds. Those figures don't even include donations to political

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parties. That dwarfs the spending the 2010 general election, where

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just over ?3 million were spent in total in Scotland. The question is,

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what is all the cash being spent on? Some of it of course goes on staff

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and offices, but the biggest chunk has gone directly on trying to win

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your vote. The billboard company prime site, who had been sticking up

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posters for both campaigns say the total amount of spending on outlaw

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advertising is around one and a half million pounds, with lots of that

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coming to them. We've never seen such high occupancy levels on

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billboards over the last 12 months, and this has had a huge impact on

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us. ?1.5 million is a lot of money to be spending, how much does it

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cost to put up one individual advert? We have backlit illuminated

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billboards, and they would be about ?1500 for two weeks, right up to

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digital screens which could, depending on the site, anywhere

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between ?1500 and up to ?10,000 again for a two`week period. And

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it's not just posters that have been eating up the campaign budgets. Over

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the last couple of months we've been inundated by material from the yes

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and the no campaigns. But this sort of publication doesn't come cheap.

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Is it really worth it? Will the referendum result effectively be

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decided by which campaign has spent the most money? Everything is

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important in this campaign. We realise that is very close and so

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billboards, posters, door`to`door canvassing, the amount of stock we

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are getting throughout letterboxes right now is quite incredible but it

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does look like with social media for example it is less important how

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much money you have and more important about how you get that

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message out and how many other people can re`tweet that message.

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Although spending has been hugely significant in this campaign, in a

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digital age, influencing voters is no longer just a straightforward

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matter of flashing the most cash. Stay with BBC News the latest on the

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Scottish referendum. Tomorrow, Christian Fraser will be live in

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Aberdeenshire, finding out about the impact of the referendum result on

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the fishing industry. You can get the latest online including our

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correspondent Glenn Campbell looking at Scotland's future in Europe if

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there is a yes vote at Scotland's future in Europe if there is a

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that's all from a fortnight. I will be back again tomorrow night. Until

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then, goodbye. The headlines this evening on BBC

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News. Alex Salmond tells business leaders that independence would

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bring Scotland a prosperous economy but in a speech in Aberdeen, the

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Prime Minister warns that a Scottish exit would be forever. The Foreign

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Secretary Philip Hammond says Britain will play a leading role in

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tackling Islamic State terrorists.

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