28/08/2014 Scotland Decides


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Tonight, David Cameron travels to Scotland to defend

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on the day 200 business leaders sign a letter backing independence.

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the knowledge that you keep the pound is currently, you keep your

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markets open, you keep your business opportunities as you can today.

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Is the campaign dampening or raising spirits

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The best way to achieve devolution is to have more local beaver luge.

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If the politicians are closer to home, they can be more answerable to

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the demands of the people. David Cameron is

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in Glasgow tonight defending The Prime Minister says being part

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of the UK supports a million Scottish jobs and gives businesses

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access to one of the world's oldest Debate about the impact

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of independence on Scottish companies has intensified today with

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200 bosses signing a letter published in the Herald

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in favour of leaving the UK. But first our Political Editor Nick

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Robinson has been speaking to The right choice of business, the

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right choice of Scotland's business and the economy if the vote to stay

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within the United Kingdom. It gives Scottish business the opportunity of

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trading within the United Kingdom and in the European Union, it gives

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you the opportunity on the world stage and you have the knowledge

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that you keep the pound is your currency, the market opened and you

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keep the business opportunities as you have today. Isn't there one

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other certainty if Scotland does vote know if you want, and you are

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still Prime Minister, more austerity, more spending cuts,

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possible cuts in NHS budget as well. Isn't that another reason people may

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choose to leave? I think Alex Salmond has been trying to frighten

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people because he is losing the argument about Scottish separation.

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You take for instance the argument about the NHS, under my government

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the NHS has been getting more money every year, that means more money

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for the NHS in Scotland. And the people who make the choice about the

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NHS in Scotland is the Scottish government, Alex Salmond himself.

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His scare stories has been completely ineffective because he

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has been trying to frighten people about what he might do. You decide

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the overall budget for Scotland. In truth, you would deliver more

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austerity, spending cuts, there could be a knock`on for the health

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budget. Everybody knows the whole of the United Kingdom still faces a big

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budget deficit and problems of excessive debt, we have to get on

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top of those which we have done it a very sensible and measured way.

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People in Scotland have made a contribution to the deficit

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reduction but people in Scotland could see the benefit of our

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long`term economic plan. 150,000 more people in work than when I

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became Prime Minister four years ago. So Scotland is succeeding as

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part of the beta kingpin, and its performance in terms of `` part of

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the United Kingdom, and its performance is one of the best in

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the United Kingdom. I am inviting you to address the voters I talked

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yesterday, who never with Alex Salmond but who nevertheless said

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they will vote yes because they then get to see the back of the Tories

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and austerity of the cuts forever. You say to them? If you want

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Scotland to have a greater ability to be determining its own affairs

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and still remain part of the United Kingdom, you could have the best of

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both worlds. Secondly, whoever is running government in Scotland,

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whether as part of the United Kingdom or separately, it has to

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deal with debt and deficit and all those other issues that politicians

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have been grappling with for the last few years. Let's think of what

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Scotland would have had to cope with added beans separate from the United

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Kingdom when the Royal Bank of Scotland nearly went bust. It would

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have had to shoulder on the taxpayer of Scotland a bank that was many

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times bigger than the entire Scottish economy. This is part of my

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positive argument. As part of the United Kingdom, there is solidarity

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of both parts of the `` different parts of the United Kingdom support

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each other in the bad and good times. If there is a no vote, are

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you guaranteeing to give more power to the Scottish Parliament and when?

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Yes soon is the answer to that. What powers would you give the Scottish

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parliament which would actually help create jobs in Scotland? What I

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would say is that today, there are advantages of being part of the UK

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single market with the single currency. They are all the Scout ``

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powers the Scottish Parliament already has to create jobs, there

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are the record 157,000 new jobs and with the sort of fiscal devolution

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we are looking at, there will be further opportunities for Scottish

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MPs to make decisions to help growth in Scotland.

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The Prime Minister's comments come after a letter was published

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in today's Herald signed by more than 200 business people

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Yesterday a similar letter from 130 pro`UK business leaders

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said the case for independence had not been made.

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Our Scotland economic correspondent Colletta Smith reports.

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When it comes to the right support for business, the man behind the

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property firm Springfield is convinced that an independent

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Scotland would be the best structure. He has more than 1000

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staff working for him across Scotland and he has signed today's

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letter because he thinks his business would get a boost if the

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Scottish government had more power to help. We are operating with our

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hands tied behind our back. We have seen in the last is the news how

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successful we can run our country with devolution, with limited

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powers, and like the guise of a building site here, we has served

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our apprenticeship. But when we look at the tool box, hospitals are

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missing. Plenty of `` tools are missing. 20 of other bosses do not

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believe in that analysis. You cannot simply believe in a proposition that

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will reduce taxes and increased spending is credible. My worry is

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that what `` taxes would go up at an individual and business level to

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make the books of an independent Scotland balance.

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Duncan Tannahill talking to Coletta Smith.

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With me now is the former senior civil servant turned adviser to

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the Better Together campaign, Professor Jim Gallagher.

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And I'm also joined by Professor Murray Pittock who's

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Vice`Principal of the University of Glasgow and a member

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200 business leaders have signed the letter. I think the Prime Minister

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has been right. The argument that there will be a wider UK market, and

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the majority of Scotland's trade is with the UK, all hell you that the

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placing of the Scotland in an economic union works for business

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and job. `` all tells you. Cameron makes the point that Scotland does

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trade with the UK more than with the rest of the world together. So there

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would be disruption to that if there is separation. The real single

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market is the European single market and that is the single market that

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counts. There is no point harking back to Imperial preference and the

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UK single market, that is not the world we live in. One of the

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important things is the Prime Minister talking about Scottish food

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production. Scottish food production has been rising three times faster

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after the government started promoting internationally in 2007.

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We are now selling more whiskey to France in a month than they are

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buying cognac for themselves in the year. The promotion of Scotland

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internationally, it is one of the most recognised international

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brands, will gain from independents. I am not surprised that a lot of

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Scotland's traders expect, Scotland cannot promote itself with the

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recognition of its brand. Europe has reared its head yet again with the

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defection of darkness Carswell and there are a lot of people `` Douglas

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Carswell and there are a lot of people concerned that if the UK

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leads the EU, Scotland will be dragged out with it and it might be

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safer to vote for an independent Scotland that would at some point

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during the EU. That is the worst of both worlds. The difficult thing for

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Scotland, in the undesirable way that the UK leads the EU will ``

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leaves the EU, means that we are faced with an very bad choice. We

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should maintain both unions. There is is a big difference between the

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single market of the EU and the domestic market that is the domestic

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United Kingdom. The single market only works well for some things,

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like whiskey for example, but it does not work at all for financial

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services. And 200,000 jobs in the UK, in Scotland, depend on the UK

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selling financial services companies. The prime list also makes

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the point that it is the that has the trade

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around the world that can work to promote Scottish exports. They

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don't, that is the point. As someone who frequently speaks abroad on

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Scottish related events, I know the embassies are not present and we

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could present ourselves better abroad.

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It is independents to improve promote ourselves across a smaller

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pictures at the station in Paris! That it is the single image, the

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serious image is, 2012, 217,000 jobs created in London, 47,000 in the ten

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biggest cities next combines. This is a London British economy, it is

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not in British British economy. I appreciate that is a general English

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issue but it is also is also to Scottish problem.

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How much does it help the better together caused to have the Prime

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Minister in Scotland? It is a well worn joke that there are more pandas

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in the Scotland because `` than Tory MPs. The David Cameron coming to

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visit help the cause? I have seen the pandas and BNP so I can make the

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comparison. If the promote `` Prime Minister did not come, I think he

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would be rightly criticised. He is also right to say that in the end

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this is a decision for Scots. He does not have a vote and I think it

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is quite right. He comes and makes his argument, set to people, stay in

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the UK. The choice is for us, not for him. You would be critical of

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the Prime Minister if he did not come to visit, but at the same time

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the yes campaign is not keen to seem to be keen to be having him here. I

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am sure he has got a good Scottish welcome from the yes campaign he has

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met. If David Cameron wants to join the debate, he should be debating

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the first Minister and he is not doing that. Alex Salmond has renewed

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the challenge for head to head debate with David Cameron, he has

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had two with Alistair Darling, any chance the Prime Minister will

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agree? It is unlikely, of course Alex Salmond wants to present it as

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Scotland versus England, that is his game. This is a decision for us here

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in Scotland. I think if that is the case, I think the Prime Minister

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should not be in the Scottish debate on his own terms, he should be in

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the Scottish debate on terms that are agreeable to a wider range for

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people in Scotland. When he brought them to Cabinet, he met hardly

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anybody. It is not about being shepherded around, it is about

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coming to Scotland are being engaged.

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The Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael has indicated he could

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join Scotland's negotiating team for talks on independence

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Speaking to the Scotsman the senior Liberal Democrat said he

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would find it difficult to remain in his current job if Scots support

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Alex Salmond has said he would want all the best talents

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in the country to take part in any independence talks.

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A champagne celebration organised by a Conservative association

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in anticipation of a no vote has been cancelled.

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An advert for the event in Dumfries said an all`night party on September

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18th would be followed by a celebration champagne brunch.

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A Conservative spokesman said the party was not taking anything

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The referendum campaign has ignited a debate about Scottish identity

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and it's often in small island communities where that debate is

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Our special correspondent Allan Little has been visiting Islay

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in the Hebrides where he's been finding out that both sides are keen

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for change whatever the outcome of the vote.

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Just 90,000 people live in Argyll and Bute, but it has a coastline

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longer than that of France. There are so few people in Scotland, it

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has a population density just one seventh that of England and Wales.

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Pro independence campaigners say that makes it different kind of

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country, with different political challenges and needs. The Islay

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hotelier David Graham leaves his guest in no doubt about his

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allegiance. For him, independence is about making government more

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accountable. We still feel distant from Westminster, Westminster still

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control a lot of the key levers that can make such a difference to

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Scotland as an independent Scotland. I personally feel that if

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we have the politicians closer to home, they can be more answerable to

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the demands of the people. The independence debate reaches

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into every community. The level

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of engagement is unprecedented. The annual isle agricultural show

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brings the community together. Minds are being made up

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in places like this, in lengthy, passionate conversations

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between friends and neighbours. What's the point

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in saying we want to be separate, in the meantime we only get a list of

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the things we don't want to lose. It must be nice to be either one or

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the other and I keep getting pulled back

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and forward. It is the one and only chance

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in my lifetime we will be able to It won't be easy,

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it will be hard and cost money, Neither side now is backing

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the status quo. For even the most passionate

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no campaigners, like the local Centralisation has not helped

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in the islands. The best way to achieve

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devolution is not just increasing evolution to Edinburgh, but from

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Edinburgh more local devolution. The nationalists have

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a terrible track record on this. In a place like this you see

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something very important about It's not just about national

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identity, it's also about power. About where it should properly

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reside, how to make the centre accountable

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to people who live at periphery. Yes there has been national flag

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waving, but this has been an extraordinary and energetic

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debate that has energised people In groups of friends, families,

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about the nature of democracy The pace of that debate is

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now accelerating fast. Both sides say they want change,

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and the decision, change in and out of the

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United Kingdom, is just weeks away. Stay with BBC News for the latest on

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the Scottish referendum. And get the latest online

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whenever you want it Gavin Esler will be live in Islay

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tomorrow, hearing more about the impact of the campaign

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there, as local people gather for I'll be back

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on Monday with all the latest from the capaign trail, but James Cook

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will here tomorrow at 7.30pm with be

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