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Tonight on Spotlight...

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A pensioner scammed out of £180,000.

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I just felt devastated, completely,

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because I knew all the money was gone.

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Scams cost Northern Ireland an estimated £100 million every year.

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I think that is a major epidemic in the United Kingdom.

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Yet the authorities don't seem capable of stopping it.

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Money is moved, and it is dissipated and dispersed many times over

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through multiple bank accounts which eventually become untraceable.

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'We follow the letters trail to Holland.'

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Hi. I'm from the BBC.

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This is Elizabeth. She's a 75-year-old widow,

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and she's lost her life savings.

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She's been conned out of £180,000 by scammers.

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These letters started to come, you know, from different places,

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the Netherlands...

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I thought, "Well, it's international, and it must be OK."

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Elizabeth - we're not using her full name -

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first fell victim to a mail scam.

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Here's how it works.

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You receive a letter like this one

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which appears to guarantee you a cash sum of £20,000.

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It could be as much as a quarter of a million pounds

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or, in this one, £3 million.

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It's all yours for £25,

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which you're invited to send in a pre-addressed envelope provided.

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This envelope's addressed to a PO box in Holland.

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So, of course...

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temptation got in the way.

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-And were you paying money to these people?

-Yes, I was.

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-At every stage?

-I couldn't afford to.

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But I did do quite a few now, to tell you the truth.

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How much money were they asking you to give them?

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Some was £20, some was £25.

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In return for these payments,

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she was led to believe she had already won large cash prizes.

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Police call this an advance-payment fraud,

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and anyone who pays it is being scammed.

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How much do you think you were spending in a week?

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How much were you sending away?

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Well, I keep enough for the petrol for the car

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and some for my food for myself, but the rest I spent on...

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..on that there.

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Well, it's just like being hypnotised.

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You're going to win and you're going to win this big amount of money

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and you'll be able to buy what you want when you get it.

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And what Elizabeth wanted to buy was a new house.

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The letter scams began after her husband died.

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She felt isolated and depressed,

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both factors that can make people vulnerable to scams.

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Anyone can fall victim to a scam.

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If you've got something to lose,

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there is someone out there who's trying to take it off you.

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Professor Stephen Lea from Exeter University has never met

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Elizabeth, but he has studied the psychology of scam victims

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and scammers.

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Certainly, they detect that someone's kind of lonely

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and looking for activity, then they'll play on that.

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Often, the excitement is financial.

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You know, they're dangling a very large financial reward out there.

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The volume of letters grew rapidly.

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Elizabeth was becoming busier and busier, filling in forms

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and posting off cash.

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When she exhausted her pension, she started to use her savings.

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I'd bring an envelope in,

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and one by one, she'd do the cheques for me.

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-So did she write the cheques?

-No, no.

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It was printed out on the printing machine or the computer thing.

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She got my book and then she printed out the cheque.

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And then you put them into the envelopes?

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Yes, and went and posted them.

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Elizabeth's books from the Progressive Building Society

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tell their own story. You can see how the scams took over her life.

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In the years before, there were virtually no

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withdrawals from her account.

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But that would soon change.

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On one day in March last year, her building society issued 24 cheques.

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Two days later, 21 cheques.

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The next day, another 21 cheques.

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In just a few months, she'd spent £42,000.

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And she's far from being the only victim.

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Now it's time for Money Box, with Paul Lewis.

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Hello. In today's programme, beware of this man.

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On the BBC's personal finance programme,

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the lead story is on the latest scam.

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Like most scammers, he's very convincing.

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Presenter Paul Lewis says they are hearing about ever-increasing

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numbers of scams.

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It's one of the fastest-growing crimes,

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and I suspect one reason is people realise they can make far

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more money far more safely sitting in their bedroom defrauding

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people than going out committing violent or burglary-type offences,

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and I think that is a major epidemic in the United Kingdom.

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Scams cost the UK economy £3.5 billion a year,

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and in Northern Ireland they're growing all the time.

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The estimated cost here is £100 million every year.

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We discovered a scam operating within Northern Ireland

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and we went in and we seized the post.

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Now, there was over 22,000 letters.

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When we opened those letters, there was over £300,000.

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Now, that was just a couple of weeks' post gone off to one scam.

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'Trading Standards is the body responsible

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'for helping local scam victims.

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'Beverley Burns has the job of trying to keep on top of the problem.

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'It's not just the elderly and the vulnerable who are taken in.'

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Retired teachers, university professors, accountants, nurses.

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I have to say, it's people from every single walk of life.

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And the amounts lost by people in Northern Ireland

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to scammers are astonishing.

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We know of four people who've lost even more than Elizabeth.

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One person was conned out of £1 million,

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two others half a million pounds each.

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The criminal gangs share details of their victims,

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putting them on what they call a "suckers list".

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As soon as you've been defrauded, you go on the suckers list,

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because they think once you've been defrauded, you might think, "Well,

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"I'll go with this, because I might get some money back," and, secondly,

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having been conned once,

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you're probably gullible enough to be conned again.

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A consequence of being on the suckers list is that criminals will

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keep targeting victims,

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and they have an imaginative range of scams.

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And that's what happened to Elizabeth.

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Only this time, it was in a relentless campaign of phone calls.

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Hello?

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And in the second scam, the amounts she was giving them got higher

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and higher.

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£5,000?

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The criminals had convinced her she was owed a large

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sum of money from an old mortgage.

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I'm owed how much?

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But first, they asked her to send them money to release the cash.

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Erm, well, what mortgage are you talking about?

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The phone-call scam started last September.

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The scammer said he was called David and used the name of a real lawyer.

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He said he was a judge working on behalf of what

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he described as the Ministry of Justice.

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One of the very well-known persuasive techniques

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that legitimate and illegitimate marketers -

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if we can put it that way -

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use is to try and surround themselves with authority.

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The man, it was a sort of an Indian, sort of Pakistani accent,

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but the English was quite good.

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'I thought, "Well, £5,000 would be great."'

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The man calling himself David was persistent

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and demanding on the phone.

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Elizabeth was soon wrapped up in his world.

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This is one of the persuasive techniques

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that we know that scammers use,

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of trying to get you committed to a project,

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and when you look at the kinds of language they use,

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they start talking about "our joint project" to try

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and give you ownership of it

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so that you'll feel responsible for it and feel you ought to keep it up.

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She was persuaded to withdraw large sums of cash

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and sent it to David, the man she believed to be a judge.

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She sent it using money transfer systems

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that operate anywhere in the world.

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I went to the money shop, filled in the form,

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and it went through on the computer, whatever they do.

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Soon, she was sending as much as £2,000 in a morning.

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Her scammer would ring her with instructions.

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She followed them all in the belief that he would one day

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pay up the money he'd told her she was owed.

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PHONE RINGS

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Hello? David?

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'He would phone me on a mobile number...'

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to ask me had I done the transaction, and I would say I had.

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Then he would want the number on the bottom of the form.

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Once they had the serial number,

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criminals on the other side of the world could retrieve the money.

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'That's the number I would tell him.'

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And he said, "That's OK."

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So that money went through to them.

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OK, thanks very much. Bye.

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'But there was no end to his determination

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'to extract every penny he could.

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'He kept her interest by promising to visit

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'and personally deliver £90,000.

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'But on the day he was due, he said she first had to send £4,000 to

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'cover the costs for him and an assistant.'

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I says, "Well, why not leave your assistant at home

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"and come yourself, cos it'd be cheaper for me?"

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He says he couldn't do that, seeing the amount of money was so big.

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'But that, too, was a lie.'

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-So you paid the money.

-Yes.

-And what happened after that, that day?

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-He didn't turn up.

-He didn't turn up.

-No. No, didn't turn up.

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The situation becomes a sort of enclosed world which people

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then believe in, and when you stand outside it,

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when you come to stand outside it and you realise what happened,

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you almost wonder, "How could I have believed that?"

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But when you're inside it, it seems entirely persuasive.

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And, of course, that's what the scammers are trying to do.

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Why do you need to deliver it?

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Elizabeth's pursuit of the money she had been told was hers by right

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had left her broke and exhausted.

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You owe me a lot of money. I need that money.

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'The guy says, "Look,'

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"there's no more money left. I can't send you any more."

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Well, I thought to myself, "Well, you've had it,

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"the money's all done, and that's it."

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In just seven weeks, Elizabeth paid out £103,000

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from her bank account to a man she believed was her friend.

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All she had left was £440.

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It must have come as a bit of a shock, then,

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when you learnt what was happening.

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It did. A big shock. And I felt I'd been so stupid, as well...

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..that I should have cottoned on, like, that...

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..that the whole thing was a fraud, really,

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because I had said to that first man there, I says,

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"That there's a fraud that you're doing to me."

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"That's a scam." He says, "It's not, it's real."

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When did you first realise that...

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that you'd been involved in scams?

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Well...

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..when the police came to the house

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and told me that this is all a scam, you know,

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different things like that, and...

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I just felt devastated, completely, because...

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I knew all the money was gone.

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But even when she was broke, there was no end to the scammers' greed

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and cruelty. They persuaded Elizabeth to borrow £14,000.

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A year on, and she's still paying that off.

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But there was worse to come.

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They then made her part of their criminal enterprise by getting

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Elizabeth to open a new bank account.

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And this time, they did lodge some money.

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They paid £5,000 directly into the account.

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He convinced me they could help me,

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so he said he'd lodge money into my account

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and then I could withdraw it.

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But they had an ulterior motive.

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It looked as if I had a healthy enough balance.

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At one time, you get the statement, it said you had £5,000 in it.

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No sooner had she got some money in her account

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than she was asked to move it on again.

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Then he'd ask me to draw maybe out of that 5,000,

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he asked me to withdraw 2,000 maybe today

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and another 2,000 maybe tomorrow.

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So that's the way it went.

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She didn't know it, but Elizabeth had started working for the criminals.

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The money lodged in her account had been scammed from other people,

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and a police force in England

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started to investigate her for money laundering.

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You'd never...even thought you were involved in anything like that?

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No, no, sure, I never...

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I hear tell of it, but you never thought, y'know, that they

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used you for laundering money, of all things.

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-I didn't know it.

-A bit of a shock?

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It was, that I'd been used, connected with crime. But...

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It was a shock...

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to tell you the truth.

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The scams lasted for nearly a year.

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When she finally stopped talking to the scammers,

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on one day alone she had 26 missed calls.

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Elizabeth kept notes on her callers and their telephone numbers.

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We searched for the numbers online

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and discovered they'd been used in identical scams,

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even down to the same detail about a man called

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David at the Ministry of Justice.

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Meanwhile, at Elizabeth's branch of the Ulster Bank,

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her spending had started to cause concern.

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'Well, there was a lady.'

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She asked me into her office one day.

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And she said,

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"You're coming in here very often to withdraw large amounts of money."

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I said, "Yes."

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And I told her I was doing repairs to the house, which I wasn't.

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In all, bank staff took Elizabeth aside on five occasions.

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The Ulster Bank would say that they did intervene

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and that they did ask you about what you were doing with your money

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and that you basically said it was your money,

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you could do with it as you pleased.

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Do you accept that you did tell the bank...?

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Well, I just can't remember for sure, but I must have had.

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I must have had when they say so.

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You said you were going to get house repairs,

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-but that wasn't strictly true.

-No, it wasn't.

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-It wasn't strictly true.

-What do you think the bank should have done?

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Well, I think they could've froze my account and just said,

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"Look, we know that you're not telling the truth."

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So I feel that they could have stopped me earlier.

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'Elizabeth's money had gone by the time her family found out

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'what had been going on.

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'According to the rules, where someone has given away their money

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'voluntarily, the banks don't have to pay compensation.'

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If the customer says, "Look, leave me alone, it's my money,

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"I can do what I like with it,"

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then really the bank is in a very difficult position.

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Even if the customer's elderly, in their 70s,

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they still have a perfect right to make decisions

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and to spend it as they see fit!

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'But for the people who have lost out to scammers,

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'there's little hope of any type of investigation.

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'To cope with the growth in fraud crime,

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'the Government has established ActionFraud in the City of London.

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'If a scam is reported,

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'the details will go to ActionFraud to be analysed.

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'But the harsh reality for Elizabeth

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'is ActionFraud told her in writing there was nothing they could do.

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'And that's not unusual.'

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When you look around to try and find someone to take

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responsibility as to how you fight fraud,

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it's difficult to find someone who'll put their hands up

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and say, "Yes, we're the people to come to."

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I do think - and it's one of the most common complaints that I get -

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that people who have been defrauded or potentially defrauded say,

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"Well, we reported all this, and no-one seems interested."

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And that is the position we have.

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We have this huge crime, two million people defrauded every year,

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and it is not really being tackled effectively at a national level.

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'Successful prosecutions into this sort of crime are rare.

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'And here's why.

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'Scamming is a global business.

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'The criminals behind marketing scams

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'spread their work across the world,

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'so no-one police force is responsible.'

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The plan will be devised in one country,

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the scam letters printed in another.

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The victims are picked off the suckers list and targeted elsewhere.

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They send off cash to yet another country.

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It's delivered to PO boxes, where mail companies process the letters.

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But the big question is, once it's delivered,

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where then does the money finally end up?

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'We understand that most of Elizabeth's money

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'from the phone scams ended up in the hands

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'of organised criminals in Thailand.

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'But it's clear once your money leaves Northern Ireland,

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'there's little the police can do.'

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We will follow the money trail, but very often, nearly invariably,

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that money is moved and it is dissipated and dispersed

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many times over, through multiple bank accounts,

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which eventually become untraceable.

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And they do find themselves very often

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certainly at least across Europe, and into Asia and the Middle East.

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The PSNI investigation into Elizabeth's case is now closed.

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So the banks, ActionFraud and the PSNI weren't able to help her.

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The Financial Ombudsman investigated her case

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and ruled that the Ulster Bank was under no obligation to refund her.

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But the Progressive Building Society was told to refund the 96 cheques.

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So out of the £180,000 she's lost,

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she's recovered just a few thousand pounds in compensation.

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'Elizabeth's money is all gone,

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'but a year on, the scammers haven't gone away.

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'They still keep in touch.

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'We asked Elizabeth to keep hold of some of the scam letters

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'she's still getting.

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'The scale of the deliveries is startling...

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'..and most of this in just a few weeks.

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'We asked Royal Mail

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'why they don't simply stop delivering unsolicited mail.'

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One thing that Royal Mail cannot do under any circumstances

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is open people's mail.

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The outside of an envelope may give us some concern.

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It's the content that will actually tell us

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whether there's a scam taking place or not.

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So mail has to be delivered.

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Now, we've sorted out all of these letters into the countries

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of origin, and we find that there are 15 countries where scamming letters

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are being sent into Northern Ireland.

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Philippines, Samoa, the United States, Romania, Fiji -

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but the biggest number originate in Holland.

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We know every single one of these letters

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requesting an advance payment fee is an attempt to defraud.

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'With no organisation appearing to investigate the scams,

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'we wanted to see where Elizabeth was being asked in recent months

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'to send her money.

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'I'm getting help from a former detective.

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'Cees Schep spent 35 years in fraud investigation

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'and now works for a fraud help desk that promotes prevention.

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'We want to visit the PO box addresses on the envelopes.

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'We eventually track one down to a retail

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'park on the outskirts of Utrecht.'

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Yeah.

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This is Postbox 1225.

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It's on the white envelope here.

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'We found out this PO box is registered to a company

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'called Trend Services, owned by this man.'

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Mijn naam is Erik Dekker.

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Erik Dekker's company, Trends, does printing and packaging.

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It also provides mail delivery and collection services for people

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who prefer the convenience or secrecy of this type of service.

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This is one of the postbox numbers

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that's registered to Mr Erik Dekker's company, Trends.

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He's got a number of others at different post offices in this area,

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but this is number 1225.

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It's one of an estimated 114 PO boxes registered to his company.

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When we opened the recent mail sent to Elizabeth,

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we found that 59 of the letters

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had return envelopes addressed to his postboxes.

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There's no evidence that Mr Dekker knows anything about the content

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of the envelopes that are being delivered to his postboxes -

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but he does presumably know who he's collecting this mail for.

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We wanted to ask Mr Dekker what happens to the envelopes

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after he's taken delivery of them.

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'We e-mailed him to say we'd like to talk about direct mail from Ireland.

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'He replied to say he didn't want to speak to us,

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'so we decided to visit his offices

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'to see if that provided any clues

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'and to see if we could change his mind.'

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Hi. I'm from the BBC.

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Erm, well, it's about mail that comes through his company from Ireland.

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Yes, he doesn't want to speak to me, I understand that,

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but I'm explaining to you that I have information about mail

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that comes through these post office box numbers

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that are registered to this company and it comes from Ireland.

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I wanted to ask him a few words about that.

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-All right?

-HE SIGHS

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-Goodbye.

-OK. Thank you.

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So...

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clearly...

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the people inside this company don't want to talk.

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And in fact, that lady has underlined the fact that the director

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we've tried to get in touch with, Mr Erik Dekker,

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doesn't want to talk to us, either.

0:27:240:27:26

It was clear our presence was no longer welcome.

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We don't know what happens to the money posted in the scam letters

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or what Mr Dekker knows about the people whose mail

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his company is collecting, but he wasn't interested in helping us.

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In a statement, Mr Dekker said,

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"It's a mystery to me why you approached me in this matter."

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But the question remains, once it's delivered,

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where does the money finally end up?

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It seems the Dutch police aren't investigating that question,

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as there have been no complaints from police in the UK.

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For now, what happened to her money remains a mystery.

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For Elizabeth, life goes on.

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I was used as if I was hypnotised,

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thinking I was going to get money back along with the money I'd spent

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and didn't get anything, not even a penny.

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She's paid a high price for her involvement with scammers.

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I'd just like to warn others, anybody else that's elderly and...

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..you think you know it all, but you don't,

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just to warn them, and not to happen to them,

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because it's happened to me.

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And it's completely devastating.

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It does affect your health, as well.

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How do you plan to get over this, then? How will you recover from it?

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Well, I just plan to live one day at a time,

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be active and take an interest in outside stuff rather than...

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..the money.

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Presumably you've got friends and family to help you.

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You need good friends and family to help you, yes.

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But you feel you've let everybody down.

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