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In 2011, Nadra Ali, a 16-year-old Somali girl, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:25 | |
arrived in Northern Ireland - alone. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
She was placed in care in east Belfast. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Just 18 days later, she vanished. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
These CCTV pictures from the Belfast Islamic Centre | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
are the last known images of Nadra Ali. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
She is still missing. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
This is the man who alerted me to her story, Suleiman Abdullahi. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:59 | |
He, like Nadra, fled the Somali Civil War, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
that's raged for 25 years. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
In January 2012, he met Nadra for the first and last time, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:09 | |
outside the Belfast Islamic Centre. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
I spoke to her in Somali language and she spoke to me. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
And I said, "Are you new?" And she said, "Yes, in Belfast." | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
And I said, "When did you come?" | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
And she said, "Very recently." | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
I know you only met her very, very briefly, but what was she like? | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
She was a very pretty girl. A young girl. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
She had a headscarf, at the time, and was dressing in a Somali way. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:33 | |
Slim build. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
Did she seem scared, or frightened of anything to you? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
No, she seemed to me very happy, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
liked the people she was with, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
and smiling. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
Suleiman learnt that Nadra was with a foster family in Castlereagh. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
Then, later that day, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
she vanished. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
What happened to her, nobody knows. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
Suleiman saw this missing appeal for Nadra. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
When I heard the news, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
I just... | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
..shocked. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
But shock turned to worry when he googled the story, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
to find Nadra wasn't the first Somali girl to go missing. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
The first keyword I put was, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
"Somali girl missing in Belfast". | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
And then there was another girl in 2005. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
And then I found out that that other girl was never found. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
That girl is Zahra Abdi. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
She went missing from care aged just 14. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
Over a decade later, no-one knows where she is either. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
Suleiman felt not enough was being done to try and find either girl. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:56 | |
He contacted me. I checked the PSNI missing list. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Neither girl was there. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
I first contacted the police back on the 26th May last year, | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
about the two girls, but it took them more than two weeks | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
to be able to confirm that Nadra and Zhara still haven't been found. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
As the girls were under 18 and alone, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
they were classed as separated children | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
and would have been in the care of the local health trust. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
I've been in contact with the Belfast Trust | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
for more than a year now and, in that time, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
all they've told me is that one of the girls was in their care. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
Here's more than a dozen e-mails that I've sent them, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
on top of countless calls, trying to get more information. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
And yet all they keep saying to me is that they can't tell me | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
any more because of client confidentiality and data protection. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
And, in all that time, Nadra and Zahra are still missing. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
As no-one will give us answers, I begin to put in dozens | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
of freedom of information requests, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
asking hundreds of questions, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
meaning the authorities are legally obliged | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
to hand over the information. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
It seems scandalous that no-one is actively looking for these | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
two girls, and I'm going to try to find them myself. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
I start with Nadra. I know she was with a foster family. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
The charity Barnardo's run many foster placements | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
across Northern Ireland. Will they know Nadra's? | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
I first contact Barnardo's back in March this year, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
and initially they say that no children have gone missing. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
But then, a few weeks later, I get an e-mail saying, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
"It has since come to our attention... | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
They say new managers | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
and systems meant I'd been sent inaccurate information. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:51 | |
Confusion over facts | 0:04:52 | 0:04:53 | |
and, crucially, figures, would characterise much of my search. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
I ask the Belfast Trust if I can meet Nadra's foster family. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
They say no. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:08 | |
But the police tell me some curious facts. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
When Nadra went missing, she had 40 cigarettes | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
and a pack of clean underwear with her, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
but she didn't take her toothbrush. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
They add, they have her DNA from a strand of hair. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
There seems little other trace of Nadra. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
As the girls were Muslim, I go to see Brenda Skillen | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
from the Muslim Family Association. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
-Hi, Peter. -Hi, Brenda. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
-If you don't mind to take your shoes off. -Oh, yeah, no problem. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
Do you know many of the Somali community? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
I know a few Somalian community. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
I've seen the photos of the girls. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
They weren't familiar to myself, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
and when you pass that to me, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:05 | |
I'll share it with them and see if anybody has seen the girls. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:10 | |
Brenda invites us to Friday prayers, where around 400 people, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
many of them Somali, will gather. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
We begin designing a missing poster, explaining what we're doing. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
Shall we try the writing a bit bigger? | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
'The photos are from the original police appeals.' | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
Could we put them in caps? Yeah. That's it. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
'It needs to be in three languages and, while making it, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
'we discover some fundamental problems | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
'with the original search for the girls.' | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
'Their names are spelt wrongly.' | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
Sorted? | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
The Somalis we talked to all tell us that the | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
letter 'z' is never followed by the letter 'h' in their language. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
The name of the girl they were looking for couldn't possibly | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
have been Zhara spelt "Zh". | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
They also tell us that Nadra's middle name isn't Somali. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
It suggests their names weren't taken down correctly. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
Zahra's photo is of really bad quality, but it's all I have. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
I knock doors on the last known street where she was staying. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:27 | |
She was placed in a B&B, but it's no longer there. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
We know she made a few friends in the three months | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
she was in Northern Ireland. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
Is she someone that you recognise? | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
No, not at all. Good luck in finding her, anyway, guys. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
Cheers, thank you. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
We know she kept her clothes in a black bin bag, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
but when she went missing, the bag had no clothes, just towels in it. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:49 | |
-Do you recognise her? -No, I've never seen that girl before. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
And how long have you lived on the street? | 0:07:53 | 0:07:55 | |
I've lived about 40 years on this street. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
But I don't recognise that girl. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
Dressed like that there, you'd probably remember. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
We also know her friends said she use a phone box, | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
and would sometimes hang up when people got close. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
Who was she calling? | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
We discover it took two days for her to be reported missing. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Why did the authorities not realise she had gone? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
PRAYER IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
I take up Brenda's offer of spreading the word at prayers. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
PRAYER IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
THEY CHANT | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
We're making a programme about two Somali girls that are missing. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
-They've gone missing? -Yeah. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
So we're trying to see | 0:08:42 | 0:08:43 | |
-if we can get any information about trying to find them. -Can I get a...? | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
Do you mind if I take a photo and post it on Facebook, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
saying that two girls are missing? | 0:08:51 | 0:08:52 | |
I'm overwhelmed by the positive interest in our appeal, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
and surprised by who I then meet. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
First time I saw this girl | 0:08:58 | 0:08:59 | |
was working at immigration, that worked in the outreach. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
-So you've met this girl before? -Yes. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:05 | |
OK, and what was she like? | 0:09:05 | 0:09:07 | |
She was a young girl who just came to the country. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
You're actually the first person | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
-that we've met that has met Zahra Abdi. -No, I... | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
Kamal seemed a great lead. I met up with him later. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
The police had told me they didn't know how | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
Zahra entered the country. Did he know how she got here? | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
She was saying that she came in a boat, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:29 | |
and then a truck, to come to Belfast, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
but she said that they gave her an overall and a bucket and a brush, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:38 | |
like she's one of the cleaners, till she got into the boat. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
She said that her uncle | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
paid the agent to bring her over. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
-To bring her to Northern Ireland, or to...? -No. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
No, no, to take her to a safe country. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
She didn't know that she's in Northern Ireland. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
How did she seem when you met her? | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
She was really scared from something. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Tears coming from her eyes. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
But she didn't really say at that time. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
Gary Reid from the PSNI's Organised Crime Branch | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
reviewed the cases of both girls earlier this year. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
Zahra presented herself here with no papers. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
She'd come from Mogadishu, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:20 | |
and she was being looked after by the health trust. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
And she went missing then about three months after that, in June. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
Now, that's when the police got involved. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
All children who arrive here alone, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
like Zahra and Nadra, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
are termed "separated children", and are placed in care. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
A separated child or young person is someone who comes to | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
Northern Ireland totally alone. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
They're completely bewildered by this system. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
What role does the state take on and what does that involved? | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Well, the state them becomes their parent. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
Last year, more than one million migrants | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
and refugees crossed into Europe. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
Among them, thousands of separated children. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
The Prime Minister says we've already taken in many of them. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
We've got 2,500 unaccompanied children came | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
to Britain last year, who we're looking after. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
The Northern Ireland Executive is considering what help to offer. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Labour's Yvette Cooper is leading the charge to bring in more. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
Urgent question. Yvette Cooper. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
300 children by the beginning of the next school year. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
I meet her just after her speech. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
She's pleased more children are coming in, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
but is worried that those who make it here might then go missing. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
I mean, look, they're about the same age as my children. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
We, all of us, I think, as parents, would be appalled | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
to have a 14-year-old girl missing. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
What would you like to see happen now? | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
Well, I think you need local authorities to take responsibility, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
but also the police to take responsibility. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
You can't see these as immigration cases. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
It's a serious child protection issue. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
So, how many separated children have gone missing in Northern Ireland? | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
It appears there are no official figures, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
so I start trying to add them up. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
The numbers are there, | 0:12:16 | 0:12:19 | |
in reports and written questions in Stormont. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
They appear to show that nine have gone missing since 2012. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:27 | |
Aidan McQuade believes a double standard is operating. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
If it was local kids, this would be a national scandal. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:37 | |
It would be a scandal across these islands. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:38 | |
The fact that we can be indifferent | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
to kids who are | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
from somewhere else going missing, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
I think that's arguably worse. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
I ask the Health And Social Care Board | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
if nine children have gone missing, and they ask me to meet with them. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
So, I went into this meeting hoping to come out with a clear idea | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
of the number of children who'd gone missing. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Now, they say three children have gone missing since 2012, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
and that doesn't tally with our figures. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:09 | |
Then they asked us where we got our figures from. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
But the irony is, those figures came from their own reports. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:16 | |
As they'd asked to see where I found my information, | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
I print out their own reports and take some copies round to them. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
Hi, there. I'm Peter Coulter, I'm filming with the BBC. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
We've been asked to drop in copies of these reports. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
Jim Gamble, the former head of the Child Protection Unit, CEOP, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
is highly critical of the Trust's confusion over numbers. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
It's inexcusable. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:46 | |
If the trusts don't know how many children, you know, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
who were unaccompanied children, are now in their care | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
and how many have gone missing, well, you couldn't excuse that. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
I would expect the Trust to be able to articulate that position | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
to you in the same way as I'd expect a parent who has a family | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
of five or six or seven children to know where their children were. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
That isn't acceptable. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
Suleiman, one of the last people to see Nadra, is eager to help us. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
He feels great empathy for the girls who, like him, fled Somalia. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
-TALKING TO CHILD: -Window. Of the house? | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
When civil war broke out in Somalia, Suleiman had two choices - | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
fight for his tribe, or leave everything. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
It's obvious the pain of leaving his home and family has never gone away. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
You can imagine that I have my dad, my sisters, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
my brothers live in Somalia, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
and they still keep calling me back, even to go back and see them, | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
touch them, physically. So that's very difficult. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
Is it hard for you that they're still there? | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
It's very hard. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:55 | |
Suleiman understands people go missing in Somalia, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
but he can't understand how children could have gone missing here. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
Jim Gamble believes the way the authorities file | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
and deal with a missing separated child report | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
is fundamentally flawed. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
So, this system doesn't work, and once the children... | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
the report is made, once they're put on the website, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
I believe there is a vacuum, because the agencies | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
and the organisations involved in this work go back to their day jobs. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:34 | |
Nobody is actually out there looking for these kids, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
and over the years they've been away, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
what fresh work has been done? | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
What fresh appeals have gone out? | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
We decide to do our own appeal. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
Suleiman says the radio is a vital way that Somali families, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
torn apart by the war, trace each other. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
So, Suleiman, how important is radio in Somali culture? | 0:15:58 | 0:16:03 | |
It's very important | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
because after the Civil War, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
it was the only source of information. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
Nearly two million people listen | 0:16:11 | 0:16:12 | |
to the BBC Somali service in Somalia alone, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
but it's listened to across the world. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
THEY SPEAK IN OWN LANGUAGE | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
So, we are glad to have you here at the BBC Somali service. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
Peter, could you please tell us first of all | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
what this programme's about, and those Somali missing girls. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
All we really want to know is that they are safe, that they are alive. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
We just want some kind of proof of life that they're OK. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
That's the most important thing to us. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
Reaction is immediate. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
-BBC Somali have already put the post on Facebook. -Yeah. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
And more than 60 people have already commented on it. It's incredible. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
Yes, I'm quite actually optimistic about this. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Chloe Setter, an expert in child trafficking, isn't so positive. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
Her organisation identified something quite startling. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
There were 13 cases of alleged child trafficking | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
in Northern Ireland last year. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
What we have now is modern slavery, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
and traffickers are using modern technology, modern methods, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
in order to exploit people, and it might not be as visible | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
as people in chains, but people are enslaved in our society now. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
People are enslaved in Northern Ireland. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
She can't say Nadra or Zahra were trafficked, but she thinks | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
it's important someone finds out what has happened to them. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
Suleiman and I went to Shepherd's Bush | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
where there is a big Somali community. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
We're told that there's another vital clue that has been missed. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:48 | |
Without having a middle name, they don't know who you are. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
I think it's very important because it's part of our culture. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
Through father, grandad. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:56 | |
So, that's how we sort of identify who you are. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
If we had more than the three names, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
if we had, let us say, five names, of these young ladies, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
there might be a big possibility, some big chance, | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
that we could identify exactly who they are. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
If this was any other scenario, | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
would they have got something as important as a name wrong? | 0:18:14 | 0:18:16 | |
Those are very important details. If you're looking for somebody, | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
you need to get that kind of information correct. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
And if enough effort wasn't put into ensuring that the name was correct, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
how much effort was really put into looking for these people? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
They agree to help us spread the word, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
even uploading the appeal to Snapchat. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
We found out about Nadra and Zahra, who were last seen | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
in Belfast, and we want to get the message out there on social media. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
Solicitor Fidelma O'Hagan represents separated children. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
She believes the majority don't make it here alone. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
It is predominantly, without question, | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
the involvement of an adult who has facilitated or assisted them | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
-in that route for whatever reason. -In a sinister way? | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
Without question of a doubt. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:02 | |
As a solicitor who represents a lot of these children, | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
is it worrying for you that some of your clients are going missing | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
-and enough is being done? -I think it's absolutely shocking. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
The traffickers consider the children to be commodities. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
Traffickers will always be one step ahead | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
of the law enforcement agencies, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
and I think that's probably got something to do with | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
why we see a rise in numbers coming in here. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
Could Zahra have been trafficked? The police have no evidence. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:30 | |
Is that a possibility that she was trafficked? | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
Yes, it was a possibility. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:33 | |
Equally, it was a possibility that she came into the country | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
and has gone off with friends somewhere else. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
We don't have evidence to prove or disprove either of those | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
particular hypotheses. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
The little that's known of Nadra's story, that she | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
had cigarettes and clean underwear with her, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
could be seen as an indicator that she expected to leave. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
What that would suggest to me is, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
this girl knew she was about to move, she knew | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
she was about to go somewhere else, so she had prepared for that move. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
I'm not suggesting that she agreed, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
or was complicit, that she'd given her consent to move, | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
but actually she had prepared for the move herself. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
So she knew. That would imply that | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
there's a third party who has influence | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
over her movements, so to be able to direct | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
and control where she was going to go and when. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
And Zahra? | 0:20:21 | 0:20:22 | |
The police tell us she had been in contact with a health spa | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
that may have operated as a brothel. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
The police went to the home of a man connected with it, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
but he had gone when they got there. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Do you think that Zahra was trying to reach a brothel there? | 0:20:34 | 0:20:39 | |
We have nothing to suggest that, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:40 | |
other than a telephone call that came back to what was | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
described to us as a health spa type area, | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
with possibility of it being run as a brothel at times. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:51 | |
We went there and we looked at it. It was searched by the police. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
She wasn't there. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
As I say, that line of inquiry went cold for us. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
Why she had that number, where she got back from, that remains | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
a mystery to us till today and, certainly, it was never | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
indicated, during that three-month period that she was here, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
to her social worker, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
that she was being trafficked in any shape or form. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:15 | |
But is it not a bit strange that a young teenage Muslim girl | 0:21:15 | 0:21:20 | |
would be making contact with a place like that? | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
I suppose when you sit back and look at it, yes, that is correct. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
There does appear to be another lead from the Somali appeal. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Yesterday morning, I woke up to this interesting e-mail. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
It's from a guy from Northern Ireland who lives in Kenya, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
which is just across the border from Somalia. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
He saw our appeal on the BBC Somali service website | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
and got in touch to offer his help. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
He works as an interpreter for the Somali delegation | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
for the International Committee Of The Red Cross. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
And they do a lot of tracing for families who become separated | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
due to the conflict. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
Now, what are the chances of finding someone from Northern Ireland | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
who speaks Somali, who might be able to help us | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
get some information about the missing girls' families? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
He later agrees to talk to me in a personal capacity on Skype. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
But David appears to end any hope I have of finding the girls. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
He tells us of the vital importance | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
of knowing the girls' tribal background, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
another key fact we just don't have. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
Only having their first name | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
and their second name isn't a lot of information to go on. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:34 | |
In the Somali context, it's very important that you have the details | 0:22:34 | 0:22:39 | |
of their tribe, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
because that's the way the Somalis connect with each other. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
Aidan McQuade believes the police have questions to answer. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
Well, I suspect this may be an issue for the police ombudsman, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
to look at the failings or otherwise within the investigation. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:56 | |
Given the information that we had | 0:22:56 | 0:22:58 | |
and leads that we had in and around that, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
I'm confident that the investigation teams that were dealing with | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
it at that particular time exhausted every avenue of the investigation. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:08 | |
The police acknowledge failings in how | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
they engaged with the Somali community. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
We have spoken to Somalis across the UK, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
and they said to us that the | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
name "Zhara", Z-H-A-R-A, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
can't possibly be spelt in that way. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
They've said that an 'h' ever follows a 'z' in Somali, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
and that Nadra's middle name, Sharis, is not a Somali word. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
We are a learning organisation. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:35 | |
We're learning all the time and, certainly, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
we didn't endeavour to look at the diversity issues around that, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
but certainly it never came | 0:23:42 | 0:23:43 | |
up during our investigation that the spelling of this was... | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
it couldn't have been that. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
So there was no direct approach to the Somali community | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
-until we approached you about the cases? -No, there wasn't. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
Where do you think the girls might be now? | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
I wish I knew the answer to that question. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
Jim Gamble believes it is the trusts who have a case to answer. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
Actually, when a child has been identified, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
when we know they're vulnerable, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:07 | |
that's when I think we lose any excuse | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
about the difficulties that surround us. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
We ask to interview the directors of the Belfast And Southern Trust, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
and the director of the Health And Social Care Board, | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
to explain why children had gone missing under their watch. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:24 | |
They declined. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
Deirdre Coyle was put forward, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
but we were told she couldn't answer questions on behalf | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
of the Belfast or Southern Trust, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
or any questions about Nadra or Zahra. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
Five other representatives from the Health And Social Care Board | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
stayed in the room while the interview took place. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
I'm going to show you two pictures. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
This is Nadra and Zahra, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
the two girls that went missing. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
We've been told that you won't answer any questions about them. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
Is that acceptable, that we still can't get | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
any accountability for these two girls? | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
I think what I would say... | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
you've already raised this in terms of...it's not my... | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
It was the board who said three children were missing. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Of the nine we told them about, one turned out to be aged 18. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
The board's now checked its figures | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
right back to when Zahra disappeared. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
Since Zahra Abdi went missing on the 20th June, 2005, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
how many children have gone missing in Northern Ireland? | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
I would say that eight children went missing | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
and remain missing. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
Behind all of these numbers, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
there's an individual life, a child's life, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
which we take extremely seriously. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:43 | |
Our efforts, at this time, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
are concentrated on preventing | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
these children going missing. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
Preventing it ever happening. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
From the 1st April, 2014, | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
I would also stress to you that no children have gone missing. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
Since that interview, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:00 | |
the Belfast Trust that looked after Nadra have issued a statement. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
They said they were unable to talk about individual cases, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
but all relevant steps were taken before and after her disappearance. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
And a Serious Adverse Incident Review involving all agencies | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
had subsequently taken place. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:18 | |
The Children's Commissioner thinks that the trusts | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
and the police should now review the cases of the eight missing children. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
Yes, I think | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
any sort of incident where a child in the care - | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
in anybody's care, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
but particularly in the care of the state - that the | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
outcome hasn't been the way that was intended, should be constantly | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
under review, but do I think the Trust need to give assurances? | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
Yes, I do. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
And as for Nadra and Zahra, well, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
nothing came from the Somali service appeal. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:49 | |
But just last night, I spoke to an organisation in Manchester | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
who I'd first contacted several days ago. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
Incredibly, they think they might have found the girls. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
So, you have actually got leads? That's incredibly exciting. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
What more can you tell us about them? | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
I was as surprised, actually, as anybody. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
We think we might have some reasonably strong prospects | 0:27:10 | 0:27:16 | |
to identify the current locations of both these young women. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
We've got three separate reports that suggest that both of these | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
girls did come to Manchester around that time that they left | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
the Northern Ireland area. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
So, the girl that you believe to be Nadra might well | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
be in the Northwest? | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
We believe that Nadra may well be still in the Northwest. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
One of the lines of inquiry we're looking at is that she might | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
be still working in the Manchester area. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
So, tell me what you've been able to find out | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
about the girl that you think might be Zahra. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
The report that's come through to us is that somebody who knew Zahra | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
reasonably well thinks that this | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
missing girl from Northern Ireland | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
was in fact somebody that he knew, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
and that she is now settling down | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
and living in the West Yorkshire area. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
So, what are you going to do now? | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
We've got a lot to do yet before we've got to the point where | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
we think we can make, you know, we can perhaps | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
approach them and see if they're OK. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
So, perhaps, after all this time, a breakthrough. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
Stormont is soon to bring in new provisions to provide | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
guardians to look after separated children. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
It is hoped this will prevent girls like Nadra | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
and Zahra going missing again. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
I started looking for two missing children. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
If we have found them, that's remarkable. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
But if we can do that in a matter of weeks, why can't the police? | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
And why has more not been done to find the other children | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
the board have belatedly accepted have gone missing? | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 |