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Several months ago, I was contacted by a man who said | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
The details, he said, would take me into a world | :00:33. | :00:41. | |
For months now, I've been in contact with a man referred to in this | :00:42. | :00:54. | |
Our meetings have always been discreet and carefully planned. | :00:55. | :01:05. | |
Because Martin was a spy who brought Special Branch deep | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
The IRA has issued a statement announcing what it calls a complete | :01:09. | :01:22. | |
The IRA's guns were officially silent ? but a secret | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
Around this time, Martin, an IRA and Sinn Fein member, | :01:28. | :01:40. | |
says he contacted the RUC's confidential telephone service. | :01:41. | :01:48. | |
He's agreed to exclusively tell his story to Spotlight | :01:49. | :01:50. | |
He can't be identified because he fears for his safety. | :01:51. | :01:59. | |
I did it to prevent another outbreak of violence along the lines we've | :02:00. | :02:06. | |
Don't want to go back there and because of that, any | :02:07. | :02:15. | |
3,000 people killed - one life saved it would | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
A meeting was arranged and that was the start of regular | :02:20. | :02:27. | |
Usually the means of arranging a meeting were a phone | :02:28. | :02:36. | |
they would suggest a rendezvous point to which I would drive | :02:37. | :02:44. | |
to and then I would park the car and go somewhere with them | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
in their car and basically that is the way it happened all the time. | :02:50. | :02:58. | |
Few agents within the IRA have ever stepped forward to tell | :02:59. | :03:00. | |
In 2006, Denis Donaldson, a former senior Sinn Fein official | :03:01. | :03:12. | |
was murdered just months after admitting that he had been | :03:13. | :03:14. | |
I was recruited in the 1980s after a particularly, | :03:15. | :03:26. | |
after compromising myself during a vulnerable time in my life. | :03:27. | :03:30. | |
Since then, I have worked for British intelligence and the | :03:31. | :03:39. | |
Denis Donaldson's confession went beyond the personal. | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
His admission went to the heart of the secret intelligence war | :03:45. | :03:47. | |
Tonight, we examine the influence well-placed agents, like Donaldson, | :03:48. | :03:54. | |
We reveal what he did not tell his spy masters. | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
And new allegations as to who sanctioned his murder. | :04:01. | :04:07. | |
In talking to Special Branch, Martin was following in a long line | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
of informers and agents within the Republican movement. | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
For decades, the IRA dumped the bodies of suspected | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
The body was found in the back of a Peugeot 305 van. | :04:21. | :04:33. | |
In 1987, Belfast taxi driver Charlie McIlmurray was murdered | :04:34. | :04:35. | |
They'd claimed he'd been a paid RUC informer since his | :04:36. | :04:45. | |
His local priest said the IRA had made itself | :04:46. | :04:48. | |
If Charlie McIlmurray had been abducted by the security forces | :04:49. | :04:55. | |
and left dead with a hood over his head and his hands bound, | :04:56. | :04:58. | |
there would have been a mighty hue and cry. | :04:59. | :05:00. | |
The criticism was met with a defence of the IRA's | :05:01. | :05:03. | |
I think Mr McIlmurray, like anyone else living in west | :05:04. | :05:12. | |
Belfast, knows that the consequence for informing is death. | :05:13. | :05:17. | |
During the conflict, the IRA murdered over 60 people | :05:18. | :05:19. | |
it accused of secretly working for the Army, the RUC | :05:20. | :05:21. | |
IRA claimed he had been an informer since 1981... | :05:22. | :05:34. | |
Claimed he had been passing information to the police... | :05:35. | :05:40. | |
This morning, he was found dead here... | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
The IRA claimed she had been working as an informer | :05:45. | :05:46. | |
By 1997, some may have thought an IRA ceasefire ruled out any | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
But Martin and his handlers were fully aware of | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
My handlers would have given me good advice and a bit of training | :05:54. | :06:06. | |
but it's just basically, be very careful with yourself and how | :06:07. | :06:08. | |
I would have been nervous driving to public places for fear someone | :06:09. | :06:15. | |
would see me there and wondering what I was doing well away | :06:16. | :06:18. | |
from the normal places I would go to and that would perhaps make them | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
I was always very cautious and strict about security. The places we | :06:24. | :06:37. | |
would've met at would've been picked. | :06:38. | :06:42. | |
For decades, agents and informers undermined the IRA from the inside. | :06:43. | :06:51. | |
But the scale of infiltration has rarely been acknowledged. | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
In 2008, Denis Bradley and other members of the commission | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
on the past travelled to London to examine an archive of classified | :07:01. | :07:03. | |
It's an archive of most of the, of our Troubles, particularly | :07:04. | :07:13. | |
And it's an archive also of that world of intelligence | :07:14. | :07:22. | |
and who was running intelligence and who were the informers, | :07:23. | :07:24. | |
and who was in charge of it, and so forth. | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
At any one time, the security services were running | :07:28. | :07:29. | |
At any one time, throughout the Troubles. | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
Now, that's a lot of people within a small community of people. | :07:36. | :07:38. | |
In fact, security sources have told Spotlight that the figure of 800 | :07:39. | :07:45. | |
is an underestimate, and is closer to the total number | :07:46. | :07:48. | |
of Special Branch informers and agents in Belfast alone. | :07:49. | :07:55. | |
The overall assumptions is that loyalism was easy. | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
That, you know, the loyalists kind of signed up, that there | :07:59. | :08:01. | |
What was surprising is that there appears to have been, | :08:02. | :08:11. | |
actually, a very large number of people who were informants. | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
Were being paid, or were giving information, erm, | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
And that the infiltration in the republican and the IRA, | :08:19. | :08:27. | |
was much greater than most of us had known. | :08:28. | :08:34. | |
Despite its tight cell structure, informers were rife within the IRA. | :08:35. | :08:41. | |
I do think that Sinn Fein, the IRA, created a myth. | :08:42. | :08:48. | |
That they were a group of people who were Republicans, | :08:49. | :08:51. | |
different from anybody else, they were a group unto themselves. | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
They were people with human flesh, with weaknesses, | :08:56. | :09:00. | |
and I think that the intelligence service has used those weaknesses... | :09:01. | :09:02. | |
now, looking back to, to a degree greater than, | :09:03. | :09:04. | |
Agents and informers provided a window into the IRA's internal | :09:05. | :09:14. | |
It, too, for decades was using intelligence to gain | :09:15. | :09:25. | |
As part of its counterintelligence strategy, the IRA targeted | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
and blackmailed people in positions of authority | :09:31. | :09:31. | |
We did see indicators at times, as it were, | :09:32. | :09:45. | |
of individuals coming under pressure to pass on information or attempts | :09:46. | :09:48. | |
Those that we did identify most within the civil service, | :09:49. | :09:52. | |
the Prison Service, the police service, the military even, | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
as I say, those people were all taken out of | :09:57. | :09:59. | |
Some were dismissed, others were, a limited number may be went forward | :10:00. | :10:11. | |
for prosecution but sometimes you, by prosecuting, then educate | :10:12. | :10:14. | |
the opposition too much as to what you know about them | :10:15. | :10:17. | |
and those people were quietly side lined and put into different | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
positions and jobs or else out of the job all together. | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
In the shadow of the peace process, the IRA's intelligence gathering | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
capabilities came under the spotlight. | :10:30. | :10:39. | |
A case in the late 1990s gave Special Branch an insight | :10:40. | :10:41. | |
into a particular IRA intelligence gathering strategy ? the use | :10:42. | :10:48. | |
of so called "clean skins" - persons with no apparent | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
militant Republican connections recruited to collect | :10:53. | :10:53. | |
In 1998, a young school teacher was convicted of spying for the IRA. | :10:54. | :11:06. | |
Rosa McLaughlin was just one part of a much bigger IRA spy-ring that | :11:07. | :11:09. | |
targeted key RUC personnel and police stations. | :11:10. | :11:21. | |
But she wasn't known to the police - until she was spotted in the company | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
Bobby Storey is one of the most prominent individuals | :11:26. | :11:32. | |
At a protest against Gerry Adams's arrest two years ago, | :11:33. | :11:36. | |
he paraphrased the Sinn Fein president's famous remark | :11:37. | :11:38. | |
We have a message for the British Government, | :11:39. | :11:46. | |
for the Irish Government, for the cabal that is out there, | :11:47. | :11:49. | |
In 1979, he was arrested in London for trying to break out the previous | :11:50. | :12:10. | |
leader from prison. He was of the -- sentenced to 18 years after a gun | :12:11. | :12:15. | |
attack on two British soldiers. He was credited for playing a crucial | :12:16. | :12:21. | |
role in the 1983 present escape. After his final release from jail in | :12:22. | :12:27. | |
1998, he became the IRA's Director of intelligence. | :12:28. | :12:35. | |
Known as 'Big Bobby', his activities and associations | :12:36. | :12:37. | |
were of huge interest to Special Branch. | :12:38. | :12:40. | |
Martin was one of those they used to spy on his activities. | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
What did you understand Bobby Storey's role was at that time | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
Oh, I knew what his role was - his role was director | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
In Northern Ireland, Martin says he was always | :12:56. | :13:00. | |
looking over his shoulder, and to minimise | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
the risk of exposure, he says he was often debriefed | :13:04. | :13:05. | |
Procedure would be that you would fly out to one | :13:06. | :13:13. | |
They would ring you and they would talk you into, | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
say central London, for example, you would get another phone call | :13:18. | :13:24. | |
to say, now I want you to go over and buy a paper. | :13:25. | :13:35. | |
And then when you got to that point you would notice a Special Branch | :13:36. | :13:38. | |
officer on the side of the road and he would tell you to follow him | :13:39. | :13:42. | |
He would walk you into some hotel and walk you into some room | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
where Special Branch were waiting for me. | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
At this stage, Martin was no longer an informer - | :13:52. | :13:53. | |
in a passive sense - he was now an agent. | :13:54. | :14:01. | |
He targeted specific individuals at the request of his handlers | :14:02. | :14:04. | |
Special Branch would always have half a dozen points to give me | :14:05. | :14:13. | |
whenever I would meet them, and these would have | :14:14. | :14:15. | |
You know, had I seen them, was I speaking to them, | :14:16. | :14:26. | |
what was I saying - that type of thing. | :14:27. | :14:28. | |
I would be fortunate enough to talk, to bump into the right people, | :14:29. | :14:31. | |
Denis Donaldson was also in the so-called inner circle. | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
Denis was a warm and friendly person, he was cheery. | :14:36. | :14:40. | |
He was very loyal and very trusting and very intelligent person. | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
Denis Donaldson earned his IRA credentials in 1970 | :14:47. | :14:48. | |
during the so-called Battle of St Matthews in the Short Strand, | :14:49. | :14:56. | |
regarded as the IRA's first major engagement of the conflict. | :14:57. | :15:09. | |
He was interned along with figures like Gerry Adams and Bobby Sands. | :15:10. | :15:12. | |
He later served time for IRA bombing offences and spoke | :15:13. | :15:14. | |
about his experiences in this 1977 documentary. | :15:15. | :15:16. | |
It's a political war and the men are political prisoners, | :15:17. | :15:19. | |
Any of them that are in there are guilty. | :15:20. | :15:23. | |
They are in there because of their actions, | :15:24. | :15:25. | |
What does any young man who is 16, 17, or 18 know? | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
They don't normally read as a pastime, but whenever they come | :15:32. | :15:39. | |
into prison it encourages them to read, probably because there | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
Obviously, they come under the influences of others | :15:43. | :15:48. | |
who are probably more aware of, if you like, the political causes. | :15:49. | :15:58. | |
Donaldson went on to travel the world for the IRA - he built up | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
links with foreign revolutionary groups which could supply the IRA | :16:03. | :16:06. | |
In the late 1980s, he was dispatched to New York to work with | :16:07. | :16:14. | |
A leading member in the American group Noraid, which raises money | :16:15. | :16:23. | |
for Irish Republican causes, has been arrested and flown out | :16:24. | :16:26. | |
Noraid's former publicity director says he suspected Donaldson was not | :16:27. | :16:34. | |
He would answer the phone, use his own name, and talk | :16:35. | :16:42. | |
Would attract attention from the FBI or from anybody who might be | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
I complained a number of times to high ranking people in Ireland | :16:48. | :16:56. | |
and was told, try to get along with him. | :16:57. | :16:58. | |
Denis has impeccable army credentials. | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
And the more things I told about him, they were, look, | :17:02. | :17:09. | |
you have to work with him, trust him, for our sake, | :17:10. | :17:11. | |
for Ireland's sake, for the movement's sake, | :17:12. | :17:13. | |
try and get along with him and work with him. | :17:14. | :17:15. | |
Denis Donaldson later established a US branch | :17:16. | :17:19. | |
of the fundraising group Friends of Sinn Fein. | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
Sinn Fein's new office in Washington will consolidate their presence | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
here and act as a launching pad for their political advancement. | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
On his return to Belfast, he worked closely with senior IRA | :17:32. | :17:35. | |
A party insider told Spotlight that he was a fixer - someone | :17:36. | :17:42. | |
He also actively recruited on behalf of the IRA. | :17:43. | :17:51. | |
And all the time, he was also an agent of British intelligence. | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
Denis Donaldson was an agent of influence. | :17:57. | :17:59. | |
His key value as an agent was not the secrets he disclosed, | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
but the subtle influence he could bring to bear when key | :18:05. | :18:06. | |
decisions were being taken by those at the top of the IRA and Sinn Fein. | :18:07. | :18:17. | |
And agents of influence were among the most valuable assets of | :18:18. | :18:20. | |
The IRA was broken up into about nine different | :18:21. | :18:28. | |
So agents had to be selected and, if possible, placed or manipulated | :18:29. | :18:36. | |
into certain positions and allowed to develop and grow. | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
A well-placed and long-term agent could silently damage the IRA | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
If you looked upon agents and those, there's sort of a cancer within. | :18:47. | :18:53. | |
They can, they can sort of infect, as I say, other parts of the system. | :18:54. | :19:06. | |
Long-term agents of influence, like Donaldson, | :19:07. | :19:12. | |
were the state's foot soldiers in a counter-insurgency strategy | :19:13. | :19:14. | |
that some believe contributed to the strategic defeat of the IRA. | :19:15. | :19:23. | |
The intelligence world played an immense part in bringing | :19:24. | :19:31. | |
about, shall we say, a realisation within the Provisional | :19:32. | :19:33. | |
IRA that they had passed the post in terms of the armed conflict. | :19:34. | :19:36. | |
The war we lost was the propaganda war. | :19:37. | :19:42. | |
The propaganda side, we lost in the sense that a lot | :19:43. | :19:51. | |
of what is mythology now about, you know, | :19:52. | :19:52. | |
But there are many who believe that it was a dirty war, | :19:53. | :19:59. | |
it happened in the shadows and it contains many more secrets | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
Well, it happened in the shadows, but we operated as a police force | :20:03. | :20:10. | |
If there had have been a dirty war, then ask | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
yourself a simple question - if you're fighting a dirty war | :20:17. | :20:19. | |
with no restrictions, who would you be tackling? | :20:20. | :20:22. | |
The entire Provisional Army council basically came | :20:23. | :20:24. | |
But as a counterintelligence strategy, was it important | :20:25. | :20:33. | |
that the Army council and its membership, although fluid, | :20:34. | :20:36. | |
remained generally intact so that those individuals or people | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
close to those individuals could be | :20:41. | :20:43. | |
When that sort of certainty was there in relation to it. | :20:44. | :20:54. | |
The Army council was made up of people who, shall we say, | :20:55. | :20:57. | |
of varying ability, or varying influence. | :20:58. | :20:59. | |
And once you knew those abilities and influences, | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
then obviously you're quite right, those that sort of moved | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
in their midst or, as I say, attended to their needs, | :21:08. | :21:13. | |
or were able to sort of make commentary in their presence - | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
all those things have a collective influence over a period of time. | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
They encouraged ideas that were, shall we say, more of | :21:24. | :21:31. | |
a political desire as opposed to a military desire. | :21:32. | :21:39. | |
For decades, the RUC Special Branch, the Army, the security services, | :21:40. | :21:45. | |
as well as the Gardai, and at times the FBI, | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
all ran agents within the IRA and the Republican | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
Security sources have told Spotlight that, by 1994, a majority | :21:53. | :21:59. | |
of the seven-person IRA Army Council were effectively compromised | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
because of their proximity to high-level agents. | :22:05. | :22:10. | |
The Army Council's decisions were, they said, influenced by IRA | :22:11. | :22:16. | |
insiders who were also secret agents of the state. | :22:17. | :22:24. | |
Lord Alex Carlile most recently served as the Government's | :22:25. | :22:26. | |
independent reviewer of national security arrangements | :22:27. | :22:29. | |
It's very common for good security services and good police on special | :22:30. | :22:38. | |
operations to achieve high levels of infiltration. | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
I wasn't surprised at the level and success | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
We have been able to move to constitutionalism in a shorter | :22:48. | :22:55. | |
time than I expected when I first became involved in these issues | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
in '01 as Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation. | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
I think Northern Ireland represents a political success. | :23:05. | :23:07. | |
I think the effectiveness of the intelligence services may | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
have been a factor in moving former terrorists to a constitutional path. | :23:12. | :23:19. | |
Lord Carlile also encountered Denis Donaldson, | :23:20. | :23:21. | |
who was then Sinn Fein's Head of Administration in Stormont. | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
I first met Denis Donaldson when he was effectively the manager | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
of the Sinn Fein parliamentary office in Stormont. | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
I visited him, I had a conversation with him and he helped me with one | :23:33. | :23:39. | |
or two journeys that I made in Northern Ireland in my role | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
of Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation. | :23:43. | :23:44. | |
I didn't know that he had any other role. | :23:45. | :23:51. | |
He says he had no idea that Donaldson, like him, | :23:52. | :24:00. | |
you about anybody being an informer, they would never tell | :24:01. | :24:08. | |
you anything about that, that's how they operate. | :24:09. | :24:13. | |
You'll never know who the other informers are. | :24:14. | :24:22. | |
Denis Donaldson was paid to betray the Republican movement - but he | :24:23. | :24:24. | |
He did not tell them about a chef he befriended in New York | :24:25. | :24:31. | |
and helped move to Belfast, Larry Zaitschek. | :24:32. | :24:33. | |
Larry had worked in some of New York's best restaurants. | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
In Belfast, he ended up working in the canteen of | :24:38. | :24:40. | |
Spotlight understands that Denis Donaldson encouraged him | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
In Castlereagh, the man who became known as Larry the Chef | :24:46. | :24:58. | |
was so popular that he catered for parties at the homes | :24:59. | :25:00. | |
He also used the gym in Castlereagh, close | :25:01. | :25:06. | |
At times he even used the photocopier in that office. | :25:07. | :25:16. | |
2-20 was a hub for Special Branch operations - a round-the-clock | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
On St Patrick's night 2002, three intruders raided | :25:22. | :25:32. | |
Dozens of highly sensitive documents were stolen - | :25:33. | :25:50. | |
including the codenames of paramilitary agents, | :25:51. | :25:52. | |
their handlers, as well as a Persons of Interest register. | :25:53. | :25:59. | |
Castlereagh Police Station was sealed off all day after last | :26:00. | :26:02. | |
Alan McQuillan was then an Assistant Chief Constable. | :26:03. | :26:10. | |
It's hard to understand the blow this was, how bad it was, | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
Not only that we'd been burgled, but Special Branch had been burgled. | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
Pretty soon it became clear who was involved. | :26:19. | :26:20. | |
We had various sources reporting, and as a result of the information | :26:21. | :26:24. | |
that was coming in to us, we knew with absolute clarity | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
Bobby Storey, the IRA's Director of Intelligence, was identified | :26:30. | :26:39. | |
by police as the so-called mastermind behind | :26:40. | :26:41. | |
Larry the Chef, police believed, was the IRA's inside man. | :26:42. | :26:53. | |
They had spent a huge amount of time developing this over | :26:54. | :26:56. | |
a period of time, you know, with the chef, getting the chef | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
in, and he was allowed to bring guests into the premises, | :27:01. | :27:03. | |
and we believe that he arrived at the premises with people who were | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
Larry Zaitschek had returned to New York. | :27:08. | :27:13. | |
But investigators uncovered what they believed was evidence | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
connecting him to an IRA Intelligence Gathering Unit. | :27:18. | :27:23. | |
The PSNI began to make a case for extradition. | :27:24. | :27:29. | |
In New York, Larry Zaitschek always protested his innocence. | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
I was falsely accused of taking part in the break-in in Castlereagh. | :27:35. | :27:38. | |
The break-in took place at the office that housed | :27:39. | :27:40. | |
the Special Branches 24hr hotline for the informers | :27:41. | :27:42. | |
It was a highly political act and one that had absolutely | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
So I have become the PSNI's scapegoat for their | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
Special Branch uncovered Donaldson's connection to the American chef | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
after the break-in - their agent was the very man who had | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
brought Larry Zaitschek to Belfast in the first place. | :28:02. | :28:11. | |
It cast doubts on Donaldson's reliability and whose agenda | :28:12. | :28:13. | |
he was ultimately working for - his spy masters or the IRA. | :28:14. | :28:20. | |
Larry Zaitschek wasn't the only secret Donaldson kept | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
He knew about an IRA spy-ring at the heart of Government - | :28:25. | :28:30. | |
but for reasons that remain unexplained, he again failed | :28:31. | :28:33. | |
However, Special Branch had another agent who did. | :28:34. | :28:43. | |
The most striking information, out of all the information that | :28:44. | :28:46. | |
I would have got from Denis Donaldson, was | :28:47. | :28:54. | |
in connection with the so-called Stormontgate spy ring. | :28:55. | :28:56. | |
As a member of Sinn Fein, I would meet Denis from time to time | :28:57. | :28:59. | |
and during those conversations, Denis let the cat out of the bag, | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
so to speak, and he told me about the documentation | :29:04. | :29:06. | |
Denis told me that they were stealing sensitive documents | :29:07. | :29:12. | |
from the NIO office at Stormont and that it had been | :29:13. | :29:15. | |
He didn't specify what kind of material they were taking. | :29:16. | :29:22. | |
All I know was what he said was that they were taking | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
Crucially, it was Martin who told his handlers about an IRA | :29:27. | :29:37. | |
The common belief is that Denis Donaldson gave Special Branch | :29:38. | :29:47. | |
the information about the spy ring up at Stormont. | :29:48. | :29:50. | |
I was the person that tipped the police off about | :29:51. | :29:58. | |
Can you recall the reaction of your handlers when you told them | :29:59. | :30:05. | |
They got very excited from being laid back and dead casual, | :30:06. | :30:15. | |
all of a sudden when I mentioned that and got very enlivened | :30:16. | :30:22. | |
and excited about it, and that was that. | :30:23. | :30:25. | |
That was the start of finding out more that was the start | :30:26. | :30:30. | |
of concentrating on one subject from then on. | :30:31. | :30:34. | |
For the next twelve months, I seemed to work entirely on that and nothing | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
else but that subject, and what was happening in Stormont. | :30:40. | :30:43. | |
Based on source information, the police began a major | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
investigation into an IRA intelligence gathering operation. | :30:48. | :30:54. | |
We had identified that there was a major spy-ring. | :30:55. | :30:57. | |
And we had identified that they had managed to penetrate | :30:58. | :30:59. | |
Um, various other Government agencies and bodies | :31:00. | :31:05. | |
They were stealing large amounts of information. | :31:06. | :31:15. | |
Um, to catch them with that information and to bring | :31:16. | :31:18. | |
as many of them to court as we could. | :31:19. | :31:22. | |
Particularly the director and controller of | :31:23. | :31:23. | |
Bobby Storey was the main target of a major covert | :31:24. | :31:29. | |
surveillance operation - codenamed Operation Torsion. | :31:30. | :31:34. | |
Special Branch and MI5 bugged a laptop computer and a rucksack ? | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
and tracked both as they were moved between IRA safe houses. | :31:39. | :31:46. | |
We were throwing everything we had at this. | :31:47. | :31:48. | |
Um, I mean, we knew, for example, that they had stolen the entire HR | :31:49. | :31:56. | |
So, there were 3,000 prison officers and they'd got their names | :31:57. | :32:01. | |
We knew that they had other documents. | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
We didn't know the full scale and scope of it. | :32:07. | :32:10. | |
For months, Special Branch and MI5 were watching and listening | :32:11. | :32:12. | |
to the IRA - and receiving updates from their inside man. | :32:13. | :32:22. | |
I reported regularly over months and I know why | :32:23. | :32:26. | |
they waited so long ? one, hopefully to catch those involved | :32:27. | :32:34. | |
red-handed, but more importantly they wanted to arrest Bobby Storey | :32:35. | :32:37. | |
in the act of carrying some of the stolen documentation. | :32:38. | :32:39. | |
By early October, the PSNI were on the brink | :32:40. | :32:41. | |
Whose call was it to move at the particular time | :32:42. | :32:51. | |
Having looked at everything and said, "No, we can't | :32:52. | :32:57. | |
I then went and saw the Chief Constable and I explained | :32:58. | :33:04. | |
to him where we were and what we were going to do, and the possible | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
And Hugh's position was quite simple. | :33:09. | :33:14. | |
This is going to have big political ramifications. | :33:15. | :33:16. | |
Hours before the raids, Martin says he met his handlers. | :33:17. | :33:36. | |
The night before the police raided the homes of Denis Donaldson | :33:37. | :33:39. | |
and others and Stormont, I met my handlers, just to confirm | :33:40. | :33:42. | |
Donaldson was on the brink of arrest ? something that | :33:43. | :33:51. | |
could jeopardise his status as an agent. | :33:52. | :33:53. | |
But Spotlight understands that he was now considered | :33:54. | :34:00. | |
to be a 'rogue' agent - he had not told his handlers about | :34:01. | :34:03. | |
the spy-ring ? and the relationship was about to be terminated. | :34:04. | :34:06. | |
At first light, the PSNI made their move. | :34:07. | :34:09. | |
The rucksack, which had been bugged, led the police to | :34:10. | :34:12. | |
The satchel was in his house was the target. | :34:13. | :34:24. | |
Unfortunately for Denis, he was holding the parcel when we moved. | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
Computer disks the PSNI had expected to find were missing. | :34:30. | :34:35. | |
And a decision was then made to search Donaldson's | :34:36. | :34:38. | |
I phoned Hugh and said, "Look, this is the situation. | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
"We have to search the office at Stormont. | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
"I am going to instruct them to do that as a gold commander. | :34:47. | :34:50. | |
"We do what we have to do but we'll do ? let's do it lowkey." | :34:51. | :35:04. | |
So I went back and sent out a message to them to say, right, | :35:05. | :35:07. | |
I need this done in a very low key way. | :35:08. | :35:10. | |
I want some non-uniform officers to go up and search the office, | :35:11. | :35:13. | |
and I wanted them on this basis so we do the minimum | :35:14. | :35:15. | |
The search at Stormont was anything but low-key. | :35:16. | :35:23. | |
This is a Sinn Fein minister and these are the police who have | :35:24. | :35:31. | |
just finished raiding her party's offices at parliament buildings. | :35:32. | :35:33. | |
I had forgotten that the only search trained officers | :35:34. | :35:40. | |
Another commander in Belfast said, I can't do this because it's | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
So he sent uniform officers to do the search. | :35:45. | :35:56. | |
And I didn't find out about that until it was too late. | :35:57. | :35:59. | |
I feel bad about that because I should have | :36:00. | :36:01. | |
The so-called Stormontgate scandal ultimately changed the course | :36:02. | :36:15. | |
of politics in Northern Ireland when, just a week later, | :36:16. | :36:18. | |
the Assembly was suspended and direct rule re-imposed. | :36:19. | :36:26. | |
Sam Pollock, a former chief executive of the Police Ombudsman, | :36:27. | :36:29. | |
is one of many who believe that the raids were | :36:30. | :36:31. | |
deliberately calculated to collapse the institutions. | :36:32. | :36:37. | |
The timing of Stormontgate, the encouragement, the advice, | :36:38. | :36:44. | |
and the civil service, erm, Northern Ireland Office, | :36:45. | :36:46. | |
Trimble had, in a sense, passed his 'sell by' date. | :36:47. | :36:58. | |
And senior civil servants were being encouraged to | :36:59. | :37:04. | |
quote/unquote "bring the DUP and Sinn Fein in from the cold". | :37:05. | :37:07. | |
But Alan McMullan insists that the police operation was not | :37:08. | :37:09. | |
I was quite aware that this, that it was likely that this might | :37:10. | :37:16. | |
precipitate a collapse of the Assembly because that | :37:17. | :37:18. | |
would be the impact of it on unionist politics. | :37:19. | :37:22. | |
But the line that we'd agreed was, look, | :37:23. | :37:24. | |
There's serious unlawful activity going on here. | :37:25. | :37:27. | |
We're going to address it, and as I said, Hugh was very firm | :37:28. | :37:34. | |
that the politics aren't a matter for us. | :37:35. | :37:37. | |
The material recovered gave the PSNI a remarkable insight into the IRA. | :37:38. | :37:49. | |
You had a huge mix of documents here. | :37:50. | :37:51. | |
You had Government documents that had been stolen by the IRA. | :37:52. | :37:54. | |
You had material generated inside the IRA, their | :37:55. | :37:56. | |
They required all their intelligence units in the different areas | :37:57. | :38:03. | |
in Northern Ireland to type up a report every month | :38:04. | :38:06. | |
and send it in to the centre, summarising what they'd been doing. | :38:07. | :38:11. | |
And these were all kept in a folder in the rucksack. | :38:12. | :38:15. | |
So you pull out a little folder in relation to say, Fermanagh, | :38:16. | :38:18. | |
and there was all the things they'd been doing for the last 12 months, | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
It was shocking in terms of the scale and extent | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
The haul included a map and codes of the entire | :38:27. | :38:30. | |
security system at the Northern Ireland Office. | :38:31. | :38:34. | |
Personal - including sexual - details about Unionist politicians. | :38:35. | :38:45. | |
The IRA's own documents showed that it had its own live network | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
of so-called friendlies - people working in a wide range | :38:51. | :38:54. | |
of Government departments and public bodies, all feeding back information | :38:55. | :38:56. | |
I do recall being briefed that this had caused absolute consternation | :38:57. | :39:06. | |
within the whole Republican movement. | :39:07. | :39:08. | |
I mean, we came within an ace of arresting exactly who we wanted to. | :39:09. | :39:13. | |
We didn't quite get there, but it was very shocking | :39:14. | :39:16. | |
Denis Donaldson and his son-in-law Ciaran Kearney were | :39:17. | :39:26. | |
However, the target of the operation, Bobby Storey, | :39:27. | :39:33. | |
You have to play a long game in these things. | :39:34. | :39:42. | |
It's not just about prosecuting people - it's about stopping | :39:43. | :39:51. | |
In a solicitor's statement, Bobby Storey refuted | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
all the allegations in this programme. | :39:57. | :39:57. | |
Denis Donaldson, Ciaran Kearney, and another man were later charged | :39:58. | :40:00. | |
with having documents likely to be of use to terrorists. | :40:01. | :40:03. | |
Gerry Adams and supporters gathered outside the court. | :40:04. | :40:10. | |
I'm sure that, in the fullness of time, when all the dust | :40:11. | :40:13. | |
settles down, that Denis Donaldson will walk free. | :40:14. | :40:15. | |
Gerry Adams' prediction proved correct. | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
In late 2005, the so-called Stormontgate case collapsed. | :40:21. | :40:21. | |
Ciaran Kearney, Denis Donaldson and another man | :40:22. | :40:23. | |
Full disclosure in court would have compromised Denis Donaldson. | :40:24. | :40:36. | |
Spotlight understands that the case collapsed in order to keep his role | :40:37. | :40:39. | |
But Donaldson gave nothing away and stuck to the Sinn Fein party line. | :40:40. | :40:57. | |
We were looking forward to a trial because, we were confident | :40:58. | :41:00. | |
from the outset that even if the case had gone to a full | :41:01. | :41:03. | |
trial, we would have been found not guilty. | :41:04. | :41:05. | |
Would you be happy to come back here and work after what happened? | :41:06. | :41:08. | |
I'd work anywhere that the party asked me to work, doesn't matter | :41:09. | :41:11. | |
whether it's Stormont or the Falls Road Sinn Fein office. | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
But Donaldson's secrets were about to be his downfall. | :41:17. | :41:21. | |
The next evening, uniformed PSNI officers visited Donaldson's home | :41:22. | :41:24. | |
to deliver a threat notification message - | :41:25. | :41:25. | |
It reportedly stated that members of the media believed | :41:26. | :41:34. | |
The police had a statutory duty to report such a threat. | :41:35. | :41:44. | |
In this case, they also had a duty of care towards their agent. | :41:45. | :41:47. | |
It must have been very difficult for the, erm, police, | :41:48. | :41:50. | |
or the security services to know what to do. | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
In any situation where there's a risk to an informer being exposed | :41:55. | :41:57. | |
then the police would be very proactive in moving that person | :41:58. | :42:00. | |
to secure to a safe place probably out the jurisdiction, | :42:01. | :42:02. | |
and giving them lifelong protection and support. | :42:03. | :42:16. | |
I would have apprehensions as to how quickly they cut | :42:17. | :42:26. | |
clean from Dennis and left him in a situation that was | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
He was completely vulnerable from whatever, it doesn't | :42:32. | :42:43. | |
matter who killed him, and it was almost predictable. | :42:44. | :42:52. | |
The Police Ombudsman is reinvestigating a number of issues | :42:53. | :42:54. | |
relating to Denis Donaldson's case ? including the background | :42:55. | :42:57. | |
to the threat message and how he was warned that his cover | :42:58. | :43:00. | |
We simply don't know and may never know why he didn't seek | :43:01. | :43:14. | |
Instead he turned to the republican movement ? the people he had | :43:15. | :43:22. | |
In a meeting two days later at this Sinn Fein office, | :43:23. | :43:31. | |
he was asked directly if he was an agent of the State. | :43:32. | :43:36. | |
Gerry Adams was in the same building that day. | :43:37. | :43:38. | |
The Donaldson meeting had been arranged at the request of the IRA, | :43:39. | :43:41. | |
which planned to interrogate him at another location | :43:42. | :43:43. | |
Four days later, Gerry Adams publicly announced that Donaldson | :43:44. | :43:53. | |
He described the revelation as a scoop. | :43:54. | :44:00. | |
You'll know that our party has expelled Denis Donaldson, | :44:01. | :44:09. | |
who's a long standing member, after we uncovered and he admitted | :44:10. | :44:12. | |
that he was working as a British agent. | :44:13. | :44:25. | |
The Sinn Fein President continued to deny there had ever been | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
There was no Sinn Fein spy-ring at Stormont. | :44:30. | :44:36. | |
And then when we saw different people being arrested and charged, | :44:37. | :44:38. | |
I certainly instinctively knew that there was somebody wrong | :44:39. | :44:41. | |
Hours later, Denis Donaldson, accompanied by his solicitor, | :44:42. | :44:47. | |
I worked as a Sinn Fein Assembly group administrator in parliament | :44:48. | :45:05. | |
buildings at the time of the PSNI raid on the Sinn Fein offices | :45:06. | :45:08. | |
in October 2002, the so-called Stormontgate affair. | :45:09. | :45:10. | |
Denis Donaldson, Martin says, had signed his own death warrant. | :45:11. | :45:21. | |
As soon as he uttered the words, I knew that he would be killed | :45:22. | :45:25. | |
because that's the only, that's the only sentence or penalty | :45:26. | :45:27. | |
Donaldson also denied there had ever been an IRA spy-ring. | :45:28. | :45:40. | |
I was not involved in any Republican spy-ring at Stormont. | :45:41. | :45:44. | |
The so-called Stormontgate affair was a scam and a fiction, | :45:45. | :45:48. | |
it never existed, it was created by Special Branch. | :45:49. | :45:51. | |
I deeply regret my activities with British intelligence | :45:52. | :46:00. | |
I apologise to anyone who has suffered as a result | :46:01. | :46:05. | |
of my activities, as well to my former comrades and especially | :46:06. | :46:08. | |
to my family who've become victims in all of this. | :46:09. | :46:11. | |
Donaldson's statement sent shockwaves throughout | :46:12. | :46:12. | |
Even Martin, his IRA and Sinn Fein colleague | :46:13. | :46:19. | |
and fellow State agent, was taken aback. | :46:20. | :46:23. | |
Denis would have been one of the least people you'd ever | :46:24. | :46:29. | |
I don't know any informer that was ever spared, | :46:30. | :46:33. | |
they were all executed and I think regardless of whatever speculation | :46:34. | :46:36. | |
you might have heard about Denis, they always intended to kill him | :46:37. | :46:41. | |
and for what he'd done and to set an example to other informers | :46:42. | :46:44. | |
Denis Donaldson moved to Donegal, where he continued to be debriefed | :46:45. | :46:58. | |
by Republicans about his role as an agent. | :46:59. | :47:02. | |
He never returned to Belfast, despite public assurances | :47:03. | :47:05. | |
from senior Republicans that he was safe to do so. | :47:06. | :47:14. | |
He can do whatever he wants, frankly, and that's something | :47:15. | :47:17. | |
But Donaldson's admission had angered many within the IRA ? | :47:18. | :47:29. | |
Donaldson helped to set up Sinn Fein structures in South Armagh. | :47:30. | :47:41. | |
At times, he was also an intermediary between IRA leaders | :47:42. | :47:44. | |
there and the Republican leadership in Belfast. | :47:45. | :47:46. | |
Few outsiders were ever trusted by the IRA in South Armagh. | :47:47. | :47:51. | |
But Donaldson was on the word of senior Republicans in Belfast. | :47:52. | :47:56. | |
Sources told Spotlight that, following Donaldson's admission | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
that he was a British agent, the IRA in South Armagh began | :48:01. | :48:05. | |
to blame him for operations that had been compromised. | :48:06. | :48:10. | |
It's claimed that they also suspected that he had planted | :48:11. | :48:14. | |
a number of covert listening devices that they had uncovered | :48:15. | :48:17. | |
Both Republican and security sources told us that the IRA in South Armagh | :48:18. | :48:25. | |
was pushing for action against Donaldson. | :48:26. | :48:30. | |
In Donegal, Donaldson was living on borrowed time. | :48:31. | :48:36. | |
For almost three months, Donaldson remained | :48:37. | :48:40. | |
Until the Sunday World journalist Hugh Jordan tracked him down to this | :48:41. | :48:45. | |
cottage and secretly recorded their conversation. | :48:46. | :48:50. | |
I was thinking that the press conference in Dublin was so short | :48:51. | :48:53. | |
that you never got a chance to say too much. | :48:54. | :49:08. | |
Well what holds for the future for you now then? | :49:09. | :49:12. | |
How did you find out that Denis Donaldson was | :49:13. | :49:17. | |
I met a man in Belfast, who I knew for many years. | :49:18. | :49:21. | |
No, it was - it wasn't, it was, erm... | :49:22. | :49:26. | |
A man with a very Republican ideas I drove from Gweedore down | :49:27. | :49:29. | |
to Glenties and was snooping around, not really getting very far. | :49:30. | :49:33. | |
And I was sitting reading the Irish Times in my car, | :49:34. | :49:38. | |
and I suddenly glanced up, and down the main street | :49:39. | :49:42. | |
in Glenties was Denis Donaldson, crossing the road. | :49:43. | :49:45. | |
Denis Donaldson told Hugh Jordan that now his whereabouts were known, | :49:46. | :49:52. | |
Well, I'll not be staying here too long now. | :49:53. | :50:02. | |
Hugh Jordan was accused of setting Donaldson up for murder. | :50:03. | :50:11. | |
The responsibility for Denis Donaldson's death | :50:12. | :50:15. | |
lies solely with the people who pulled the trigger | :50:16. | :50:18. | |
Do you think that your article may have focused the minds | :50:19. | :50:25. | |
The article may just have been the catalyst that | :50:26. | :50:31. | |
Looking back, I think his fate was sealed. | :50:32. | :50:39. | |
It was a question of when were they going to do it. | :50:40. | :50:45. | |
Two weeks later, Donaldson was murdered. | :50:46. | :50:51. | |
Sinn Fein official Denis Donaldson, has been found shot dead | :50:52. | :51:00. | |
In a statement days later, the IRA denied any involvement. | :51:01. | :51:05. | |
But security sources told Spotlight that intelligence received, | :51:06. | :51:08. | |
after Donaldson's murder, from covert surveillance and agents | :51:09. | :51:11. | |
Spotlight understands that the South Armagh IRA | :51:12. | :51:34. | |
Thomas "Slab" Murphy insisted that | :51:35. | :51:35. | |
And that the IRA in south Armagh commissioned the operation that led | :51:36. | :51:42. | |
What's less clear, according to sources, is who carried out | :51:43. | :51:46. | |
the operation that resulted in his death. | :51:47. | :51:47. | |
Martin says he also told his Special Branch handlers what he had | :51:48. | :51:50. | |
Not too long after Denis was murdered, I was told | :51:51. | :52:11. | |
the IRA had killed Denis not anybody else. | :52:12. | :52:16. | |
I gave that information to the Special Branch. | :52:17. | :52:18. | |
What was your handler's reaction to that information? | :52:19. | :52:19. | |
They were just totally mute, there wasn't any acknowledgement | :52:20. | :52:23. | |
of what I'd said, subject was changed to something else. | :52:24. | :52:26. | |
they and the whole status quo had seen Denis' death as internal | :52:27. | :52:43. | |
housekeeping, and they were happy enough to put up with that. | :52:44. | :52:45. | |
I believe that they acted on some information and didn't act on other | :52:46. | :52:49. | |
information because it was too politically sensitive to do so. | :52:50. | :52:51. | |
Martin believes that the shooting of Denis Donaldson was sanctioned | :52:52. | :52:58. | |
by the man at the top of the Republican movement - Gerry Adams. | :52:59. | :53:03. | |
Spotlight understands that by 2006 Gerry Adams had stepped aside | :53:04. | :53:08. | |
But Martin claims that Adams was consulted on all matters. | :53:09. | :53:16. | |
I know from my experience in the IRA that murders have to be | :53:17. | :53:19. | |
They have to be given approval by the leadership of the IRA, | :53:20. | :53:23. | |
the political leadership of the IRA and the military | :53:24. | :53:26. | |
Who are you specifically referring to? | :53:27. | :53:32. | |
In a statement, Gerry Adams' solicitor said his client | :53:33. | :53:38. | |
had no knowledge of - and no involvement whatsoever - | :53:39. | :53:42. | |
He added his client categorically denies he was consulted | :53:43. | :53:51. | |
about what he describes as an alleged IRA Army Council | :53:52. | :53:53. | |
decision, or that he had the final say on what had been sanctioned. | :53:54. | :54:00. | |
In 2009, the dissident Republican group the Real IRA | :54:01. | :54:03. | |
claimed responsibility for Donaldson's murder. | :54:04. | :54:06. | |
But Martin is dismissive of the claim. | :54:07. | :54:14. | |
I believe the Real IRA, who claimed it three years later, | :54:15. | :54:20. | |
and repair a tarnished image which has evolved. | :54:21. | :54:31. | |
Denis Donaldson's death is the subject of an ongoing murder | :54:32. | :54:35. | |
In July, a 74-year-old man was charged with withholding | :54:36. | :54:40. | |
information in connection with his murder. | :54:41. | :54:53. | |
Spotlight understands that the Garda investigation is focused | :54:54. | :54:56. | |
on a separate individual, originally from County Donegal, now | :54:57. | :55:00. | |
based outside the Republic, who has been described as sympathetic | :55:01. | :55:04. | |
14 years on, no-one has ever been prosecuted for the break-in | :55:05. | :55:14. | |
The case against Larry Zaitschek, accused of involvement, | :55:15. | :55:19. | |
He continues to strongly deny his involvement | :55:20. | :55:26. | |
We chased bout traced Larry to his own restaurant business. He declined | :55:27. | :55:42. | |
to be interviewed on camera. He said what had happened | :55:43. | :55:46. | |
was a long time ago and he has He says he stopped working | :55:47. | :55:49. | |
for Special Branch in the years I stopped because I didn't feel | :55:50. | :55:54. | |
there was anything left They were quite happy about that | :55:55. | :55:59. | |
and thanked me for years of service. I've absolutely no regrets | :56:00. | :56:11. | |
about my time working as an agent Denis Donaldson took his secrets | :56:12. | :56:13. | |
about his double life to his grave. A journal that he was encouraged | :56:14. | :56:23. | |
to write by Republicans as part of his debriefing process | :56:24. | :56:28. | |
is being retained by Gardai. Spotlight understands that Donaldson | :56:29. | :56:32. | |
wrote about himself and others - as well as what he did | :56:33. | :56:37. | |
as an IRA man and as an agent Spotlight also understands that | :56:38. | :56:40. | |
relevant information from Donaldson's private journal has | :56:41. | :56:47. | |
been made available to the Police Ombudsman's | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
investigators. Their report is expected to be | :56:52. | :56:54. | |
published later this year. Denis Donaldson openly | :56:55. | :57:01. | |
admitted his role as an agent. But the identities of other | :57:02. | :57:05. | |
Republican informers and agents during the decades of conflict | :57:06. | :57:09. | |
remain highly classified. Denis Bradley says that full | :57:10. | :57:16. | |
disclosure would come at cost too When I and others were involved | :57:17. | :57:18. | |
in doing the past, there was strong representation that all these files | :57:19. | :57:28. | |
should be thrown open. It's an argument we | :57:29. | :57:35. | |
heard and rejected. We think that the hurt | :57:36. | :57:37. | |
of that is too great, and that it should not be inflicted | :57:38. | :57:40. | |
on this society. You're talking about | :57:41. | :57:42. | |
a lot of families. And you bring more and more, | :57:43. | :57:44. | |
more and more pain Britain's counterterrorism | :57:45. | :57:47. | |
strategy in Northern Ireland was so successful, some say, | :57:48. | :57:49. | |
that it forced the IRA In a sense, the intelligence war | :57:50. | :57:53. | |
brought the protagonists They applied all the technology | :57:54. | :58:03. | |
that was at their disposal. They gave it, as they would see | :58:04. | :58:08. | |
it, their best shot. And I think that realisation | :58:09. | :58:22. | |
came home to the IRA leadership in the late | :58:23. | :58:26. | |
70s, early 80s. So the security side won, | :58:27. | :58:28. | |
in that respect. Thereafter, politics, | :58:29. | :58:30. | |
in a sense, took over. Informers and agents not only | :58:31. | :58:31. | |
betrayed the IRA's secrets, but some were used, over decades, | :58:32. | :58:34. | |
to influence its strategy For Republicans, the scale | :58:35. | :58:37. | |
of infiltration within the IRA Was the IRA rendered | :58:38. | :58:43. | |
ineffectual by many of its own? Members who were also informers | :58:44. | :58:50. | |
and agents of the state? Did the secret intelligence war | :58:51. | :58:54. | |
force the IRA to renounce violence? Did spies within its own ranks bring | :58:55. | :58:59. | |
the IRA in from the cold? | :59:00. | :59:05. |