18/03/2012 Sunday Politics East Midlands


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In the East Midlands: should we chemically castrate sex offenders?

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After a protest in our cities, is its highly found more sites for

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1898 seconds

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The idea of chemical castration sounds awfully intrusive. Are you

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on the side of the offender? don't think it's an either or

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situation. There are around 100 offenders receiving it. Around one

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in ten are receiving something that could be described as chemical

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castration. The vast majority are given chemicals. There are hormonal

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drugs. They obliterate the sex drive, they have quite serious

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side-effects. Some of the effect would be similar to a sex change.

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They could feminise the male body. Osteoporosis can be a side-effect.

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Our concern is sex offending, the medical solution is not necessarily

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the answer. It is also not about the sex. It is about behaviour and

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attitudes. There are programmes in prisons which are the Best and

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proven way of tackling sex offending. Is there a danger, if I

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can put it that way, if this pilot is seen to be a big success, there

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may be a clamour that politicians may find hard to resist? That would

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be very concerning. The law takes away someone's liberty. There would

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be an additional punishment. We have concerns. The scheme is

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voluntary. There are concerns about how voluntary it really is. You may

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feel under pressure, potentially, I'm not saying it is happening, but

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if it was rolled out across the country. People could feel pressure

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to take part in these kind of test. -- tests, in order to be released.

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I don't think that is the Best thing. Thank you very much.

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That whole issue about it being the thin end of a disturbing wedge.

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That would be rather concerning. I wouldn't want to see that happen.

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This is very much on the margins. There must be done with the consent

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of the offenders. Prison is as much about rehabilitation as punishment.

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Punishment is about being locked up. This is a voluntary, I have spoken

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to people, they are describing their own libido and character.

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Thank you are much indeed. We will want to know how this pilot

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scheme works out. Another issue about which feelings

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run high. How do tackle the problems surrounding illegal travel

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accounts? Legalising the camps is one answer, if only it was that

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simple. Community forum meetings do not

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often attract crowds like this. A traveller groups around the agenda,

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and fear is filling the hall. know they have to live somewhere,

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but please not here. I shudder to think what will happen. House

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prices will go down, there will be more trouble in Birstall. What they

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are worried about is the prospect of three permanent gypsy and

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travellers' site being built by the City Council near their village.

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Each side would house a -- Wood House 6-10 families. They would be

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at Greengate Lane, B Beaumont away and read your way. The council says

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that enough is enough. We have had 90 camps, unauthorised. That is

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something that is intolerable for local people. Beefier of another

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Dale Farm, the site in Essex, that cost millions to Claire, stalks all

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councils. In its wake, the government has set aside �60

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million to provide a new permanent site. They say it would be a local

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community. The travellers are every bit as scared as the local people.

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It makes me feel sad. We have been hears, our children have been to

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school there. We have never caused any hassle to anybody. Here in

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Derby, they have built a �1.6 million permanent site, following a

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seven year wrangling. By all accounts, this is a real success

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story. It is well-built, well- appointed, the residents pay

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council tax, water rates, and other services. We would like to have

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shown you have what it is like, but the residents are so suspicious

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about being misrepresented, and they told us we are not welcome.

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There is now so much fear and suspicion. Back in Leicestershire,

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there is also anger. I think the view of the people are Burstall is,

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they are quite upset. -- of Birstall. They are quite upset.

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They think it's unfair to have three sides so close to each other.

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That was reflected in the meeting that we filmed. Council officials

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struggled to be heard. For me, I would say it is blind fear. I have

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worked with travellers all across the region, there are only a

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handful that caused problems. That percentage is normal for any

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section of the community. consultation clock is now ticking,

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just six weeks. That will not mark the end of this explosive debate.

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You are at Shadow communities minister -- you are the Shadow

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Communities Minister. We didn't do enough. We need to provide more

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sites. People are so exercised by the prospect of a travellers' site

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being established near to where they live, by be a legal incomes

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that they see, as he saw in your package, the site in Derby, which

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is an official site, run by the council, is extremely well run.

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They pay council tax. Actually, it is fitting in very well with the

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local environment. If you look at official site, regulated sides,

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that is the picture that you will see. The problem is, because local

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authorities find it very difficult to deliver aid regulated side. They

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have shied away from it. My fear is that the government legislation

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will make it more difficult for local authorities. We may see more

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illegal income springing up. Isn't that the opposite of what is

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happening? More money has been made available for legal sites. Chris

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makes some very good points. This is a problem that is always largely

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in the imagination. My experiences this. The well-regulated sides that

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we have, they work well. There are those who don't choose to live on

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those sites. Their reputation travels before them. There is more

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money being made available. The legislation is there, the money is

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there, it can be made to work. Under the coalition government, is

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it possible that the whole issue about travellers' sites is being

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pushed to councils? It has always been the local authorities decision.

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The travellers' site in Derby was originally envisaged in any event.

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I hope that what the government is doing well lead to properly

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regulated site being provided where they are needed. The fear is bear.

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People view traveller sites as unlawful. If you are a political

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group, you won't have time to implemented before the election

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comes along. -- implement it. Briefly, is there an issue that the

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least people are talking about this? I think people running scared

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of this in the past. -- I think people were running scared of this

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in the past. I'm optimistic. Would you think the future is, in terms

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of legal travellers' sites, the money is there, to think it would

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be so hard to set up? -- de think it won't be so hard to set up?

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think where it is a political hot potato, where it can be an

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advantage to oppose it, it can be tricky in those circumstances to

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deliver the site that is needed. Time for our round-up of the

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political stories in 60 seconds. Derby's planning committee has

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given the go-ahead for a �20 million a Velodrome and concert

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venue near Pride Park. The council hopes to sell the naming rights.

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The Burton MP has pleaded that the Chancellor to spare a thought for

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East Midlands beer drinkers. Will he take his Treasury colleagues

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south Arabia and tell them not to put up the duty on the great

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British pint? Derby councillors looks set to proceed with

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controversial cuts to voluntary groups in the city.

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Finally, a mother says she is outraged after her son was strip-

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searched by the police. Officers were told that police were carrying

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drugs in their underwear. Two boys were arrested and released on bail.

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Do you understand about mothers out rage? -- tu understand that a

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mother's outrage? I understand totally. The police say they

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followed the guidelines totally. can't imagine the police got it

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wrong. I would like to hear their account. Your view of this? I think

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they did. I think they were unnecessarily heavy-handed. Drugs

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are a menace, and the need to address that that schools. I think

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the police went to be too far -- went a bit too far. There are ways

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to do this without strip-searched in them. Particularly without their

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parents' knowledge. They could have notified the parents. They say they

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notified the parents, it might have tipped the children off to the

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wrong doing. I think the way they handled this has alienated the

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police. I have the greatest respect for Derbyshire Police. I know the

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Chief Constable. They acted within the guidelines, but maybe the

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guidelines are wrong. They need to take account into the situation.

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brief update at patients at Rampton Hospital. -- a brief update on

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patients. They are still getting disability allowance. I simply

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don't understand why patients in hospital getting this form support.

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Please believe me, I will still go back to ask questions. -- are not

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getting the support. This argument is going round and round. It seems

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to be it bouncing back and four. -- 4th back and forth. We come back to

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talk about this? I hope not. I'll talk to the government about this.

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