11/11/2012 Sunday Politics East Midlands


Andrew Neil and Marie Ashby with the latest political news and debate, including interviews with the defence secretary Philip Hammond and deputy Labour leader Harriet Harman.

Similar Content

Browse content similar to 11/11/2012. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!



Could news on the economy with new jobs and big profits from some of


our biggest companies and the politician who is a climate change


Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2137 seconds


sceptic meets a scientist worried In the East Midlands, fasten your


safety belts could manufacturing in Derbyshire be driving the region on


the road to recovery? And can scientists convince the sceptic


over climate change? Journey this week, Pauline Latham and Labour's


man in Derby North, Chris Williamson is in Westminster. We


have got some good news. At least it will put a smile on the face of


our guests today because it is happening in Derbyshire. The new


Toyota Auris started rolling off the production line at the


Burnaston factory. It has invested around �185 million in its UK


manufacturing and supply chain for the car resulting in a hundred new


jobs. Rolls Royce has announced profits of more than �1 billion


despite difficult conditions around the world. The company has also won


�20 billion worth of orders for its aircraft engines. Chris Williamson,


no denying this, this is good news for Derbyshire? It is. Darbyshire's


economy is pretty unique outside of London because we have these high-


tech industries which have helped to drive growth and the impact of


the downturn has not been as severe here as it has been in other parts


of the country. What it is not all rosy in the garden however, because


the government did let us down at what regards to the Thames link


contract and it has been making cuts in public services. There is a


symbiotic relationship between the public and private sectors and when


there is a reduction in a number of staff employed, the reduction in


the amount of procurement that public sector companies -- that has


a knock-on impact as well. You were rolling your eyes. We cannot just


rely on Toyota and Rolls Royce to try this out of the recession?


is amazing news and I am amazed that he is doom and gloom. We


should be celebrating and Rolls Royce and Toyota are doing really


well and it is not just them, it is the knock-on Industries, the supply


chain that we have and they will do well out of it as well. It is all


right him in being doom and gloom that we have to look at the


positives. We should be shouting this from the rooftops and


celebrating. Are you always demand Glyn? I am being realistic. Of


course I am celebrating this. It is excellent news and we are fortunate


to have a these companies here, but we need to recognise that the rest


of the economy is really struggling. We need to acknowledge that public


services are being decimated and do not forget, bombard EA is the last


train making company that is left in the United Kingdom. There is a


real danger that they could pull out of the UK if the government


does not get his facts together and sort out some contracts for it.


They should have awarded that deal to the company at and there's a


question mark over another deal, and there is a real chance they


will pull out of the UK and that would be devastating. Dare we say,


green shoots of recovery, it is positive news, but higher fire does


it go? A I am really pleased. We want other industries to get more


contracts and attract more businesses and on Tuesday we have


got a reception showcasing Derby for other industries and I hope


that if he comes to that, he will be talking positively. Let us not


talk it down. I always top it up. One of the down sides of having a


strong industrial bases and the effect it has on pollution, the


East Midlands is responsible for the third highest CO2 emissions in


the country. Roger Helmer or things that even if climate change is


happening, it is being caused by nature, not man. Can anything


changed his mind? He is the MEP who is a sceptic on climate change,


they are the scientists who are convinced it is a major threat.


should tell Brussels we are keeping our coal-fired power stations. We


should repeal of the 2008 climate change that. Roger Helmer gets a


standing ovation from the UKIP confident -- conference. What kind


of reception will he get from the scientists at this university?


MEP except that global warming may be happening but believes it is


part of a natural pattern of warming and cooling. Today, he is


meeting three scientists convince that it is carbon emissions causing


the problem. He is shown at their evidence, but he has come armed


with his own facts as well. There is a bit of variation, but there is


no trend, there is no long-term increase over 15 years. You are


right that in the sense over the last 15 years there was no


measurable climate change, but if you look at the last 150 years,


then we do see a quite significant increase. One by one, the


scientists take on the MEP. We are living in a plateau of


extraordinary stability. What we are threatening to do is to push in


the system in ways we still do not quite understand. If you look at


the long-term record you find that there are widely varying levels of


Co 20 and you do not seem to see any close relationship. I would


disagree with that. There are lots of incidences were we see carbon


dioxide controlling the planet. stakes could hardly be higher. If


the scientists are right, urgent action needs to be taken and if


Roger Helmer is right, we are spending billions on a problem


which does not exist. So, as the meeting led to agreement? It is


great he has taken an interest, but we would have to sit down with him


and tried to work through the kind of evidence that we have gone


through. At I have got great respect for them, but I have met


and worked with other highly qualified scientists to take a


different view. What we are dealing with his highly disputed, highly


speculative science and on the base of this, we are spending literally


hundreds of billions of pounds, unimaginable amounts of money, on a


problem at that may not be a problem. The evidence for climate


change is so overwhelming that if he still doubts it, he will not be


convinced just by meeting as. the scientist, it is a chance to


put an urgent case to a politician, for Roger Helmer, it has confirmed


his view that the scientists have got it wrong. It could be a long


time before they see eye to eye. Councillor Richard Mallender is


chair of the Nottingham Green Party, what you make of that? I think he


is tremendous good value but he could argue all day about this and


he will never be convinced on climate change. Is it disappointing


when you see how strongly the scientists were trying to persuade


him? I do not think they will ever be able to persuade him. They will


never persuade him on this. We are armed only with peer reviewed


science and these guys have spent their life studying mess it, there


are thousands of scientists who have come to pretty much the same


conclusion, it is a degree of climate change that is caused by


people, not whether or not it is happening. You said you are going


to be the greenest government ever but this coalition seems to be


split on this. I think wind farms are questionable. Often they are


not moving and they are a big intrusion into the landscape. There


are other things that we can do and we are moving on a green industry.


We should be trying to persuade people to insulate their houses and


we have got the green in deal about his putting a lot of money into


that. We're looking at alternative technologies and we are spreading


the risk on the technology so that we have plenty of different options,


but the key thing is that people need to insulate their houses...


heard how bad we are on CO2 emissions and we had just heard the


good news about Toyota and Rolls Royce, but that could be bad news


for the environment. And I do not think it is bad news for the


environment. Rolls Royce and Toyota are leading the way in green


technologies, more fuel-efficient cars and aero-engines, we cannot


live in a bubble, it is vital that we support our manufacturing


industries. As far is this government being green, you could


have fooled me. The Green Deal is not fit for purpose and it will not


do him with the poorest households, they are very unlikely to take up


the deal and they are the ones that need it most. They have undermined


the feed-in tariff system and they have not gone ahead with the


capture and storage demonstration. The government agreed to do one and


now they're not even going ahead with that. If we're going to meet


our climate change obligations, the government is going to have to up


its game. He has to rant and have bad news. We are looking and trying


to work with people to make sure that they can insulate their houses,


there is a huge amount of money going into it, and that will make a


difference. Rolls Royce and Toyota are doing a lot for the local


environment because they have built new buildings and Rolls Royce has


invested billions of pounds here and they are making sure that they


are energy-efficient buildings. What to make of the way these


parties are tackling this? I do not think they are getting to grips


with this seriously. We need to insulate homes, we need jobs for


the area, but we are talking about creating a greener jobs and


building that infrastructure for the economy. Encouraging more


aerospace manufacture is not the way to go. We need to structure a


way around short-haul flights. We see the Conservatives angling


towards wanting to increase the amount of aviation, wanting to


build a third runway at Heathrow... It is not the wrong kind of


investment. High-speed two, will have a large carbon footprint


simply because of the speed that you intend to run the train at. If


you ran it as a slower network, DUP what about other countries who have


fast trains? We need those trains. We are looking at another place to


put a terminal simply because we need people to fly to this country


otherwise we will not have the good jobs. You can use it


teleconferencing. We have a perfect example here. Richard Mallender


thank you very much. There is less than one week to go and signs that


people are becoming interested in the Police and Crime Commissioner


elections. Voting takes place on Thursday and we will be gauging


public opinion on the streets of the East Midlands, but first our


political editor has been looking at a line-up of candidates for


Lincolnshire. There four candidates. Paul Gleeson is the Labour


candidate, he is a councillor. He is promising to protect frontline


policing services, retain a fully functioning police station and


custodial seat in central Lincoln and balance the needs of rural and


urban areas. The police have lost their connection with people. If


you vote for me, I will return the role of the police to you, I will


listen to you and meet with you. Richard Davies is standing for the


Conservatives. He is a Lincolnshire County Council air and a member of


the Lincolnshire Police Authority. He is promising to improve the


quality of policing, to have a cop shop in every town and to have


councils and voluntary groups are finding more police community


support officers. I am standing because I believe in visibility and


preventing crime is the key to success. We need less victims of


crime and we need to see more of the 1,100 police officers we have


got. I was born here and I had been on the police authority so I know


the current problems and I can deliver a better service and a


service that people deserve. This man is an independent. He is a


former Chief Executive of Lincolnshire County Council and was


also chairman of the United Lincolnshire hospitals trust. He


wants to retain the independence of the police, look closely at the


funding of the police to make sure it is sustainable and tougher


sanctions on repeat offenders. reason I am standing is that I do


not believe that politicians should be running the police, but that is


not the only reason. The criminal justice system and our courts have


delivered a system which is soft on repeat offenders and I want to try


and tackle not just the policing issues, but also those broader


issues. Alan Hardwick is standing as an independent. He is a former


television presenter and has worked for the last four years of the


Lincolnshire Police Authority. He wants to keep the police free from


political interference and he wants a policy of zero tolerance on anti-


social behaviour and he wants a focus on rural and local crime.


am a professional communicator and I believe the key to success is to


communicate, co-operate with the people of Lincolnshire to get their


ideas and suggestions, they will get a chance to dictate how their


policing is run. When I listen to them, I will translate their


problems into action. Just to let you know the EU can now see the


profiles of all the candidates in elections by visiting the East


Midlands pages of the BBC's website. Four days to go, all the


predictions are that turnout will be low and now wish your chance to


tell people why they should vote. do not think it will be as low as


people think. I had used my postal vote already. I hope people will


use them. People should be voting even if they do not believe in


Police Commissioners. They perhaps do not know enough about it, but


they should use their vote because on Thursday we will have a Police


Commissioner in every county in the country and if they do not use


their vote they will have had no say in the matter. To the underside


of, what would you say? It is important about people utilise the


vote. We think it would be better to use the funding earmarked for


this on frontline policing. You are fielding candidates. Of course. If


people want a commissioner to stand up for the police, I would urge


them to vote for the Labour candidates who will actually try


and resist the government's 20% reduction in frontline police


officers and the privatisation of the police. There are other


candidates standing, but if there is a low turnout, the predictions


are 20%, to the commissioners even have a mandate to do the job?


is democracy. People do not have to vote. People can exercise their


choice to not vote, but I think it would be sad if people do not have


a voice because these are really important jobs and I think it is


really important for them to have their say on the type of policing


they want in their area. At the beginning of this campaign, very


few people knew the elections were happening. This week people in


Grantham said they knew they were going on but were still deciding


whether or not to vote. No, I am not. I think that instead of


spending the money or on the commissioners, they should be


spending it on police officers. am not interested. I am aware that


a little bit more. Yes, I will definitely be voting. Why should


one individual have the power to sack a police inspector if he is


not doing his job, that should be the job of the government. Someone


in a proper position can keep an eye on what the police are doing. I


think it is a good idea. It's for the police. I do not know if I will


vote. I wasn't sure about it. It was in the back of my mind. Let his


-- let us hope it is not in the back of his mind next week. Would


it not be a disaster if people did not allow it to vote? It is up to


individuals whether they go out to vote, but it is important for the


country that they exercise their right to make a decision on this.


It is really important and I would urge everyone out there to go out


and vote. The is a concern that politics could take over policing,


surely there is a chance that more people may go out and vote for


independence? That is the democratic choice to do that. We


are fielding Labour candidates and we hope that people will support us.


We will be standing up for the policing service and standing


against the cuts to frontline policing. If the government was


really interested in democracy, they would not be holding a


selection in the middle of winter. The election is taking place, but


whoever is in charge they are going to have to oversee tens of millions


of pounds worth of cuts and that is the reality. We all have to make


sacrifices, we have got a big deficit left to us by Labour over


the worst deficit ever and we have got to balance our books and if we


do not do that and unfortunately, it means that police have to take


their share, but there are opportunities for other people to


come in and take over at the back office functions which will in fact


help save money and it has been shown to do that in other areas.


The police have already been doing that, it will not just be the


police paying the price, it will be the public, who will not get the


policing that they deserve. Those elections are taking place on


Thursday. I have not seen the weather forecast, but let us hope


it is good. Time to catch up with some of the


other political stories from the East Midlands this week.


Could the people of Leicester be asked if they want to get rid of


the City's Meyer? There are reports that a petition is being drawn up


to hold a debate on the subject. There was a sharp exchange of words


in the Commons between the Nottingham South MP and the Deputy


Prime Minister when she drew his attention to problems at Kettering


District Hospital. I find it extraordinary that she process in


this will fall scaremongering. the Labour MP was unrepentant.


official documents say that the best option is downgrading


Kettering District Hospital's casualty department, maternity and


acute services and cutting of 550 of its 658 beds.


Staying with health is the East Midlands getting a bad deal from


the government, this time on cuts to nursing numbers? Chris


Williamson says the region has lost more than twice as many nurses as


the South of England. You had a go at these figures on


nursing cuts, why is it that we are worse off here? It is not just


according to me, it is according to official figures that have


illustrated that fact. It seems that the Government is protecting


its Tory heartlands at the expense of places like the East Midlands.


We cannot argue with the fact that we have lost 550 nurses in this


region, 2.5% reduction compared to 1.1% in the south of England. I


think that is unfair when before the election the Prime Minister


said he would cut the deficit, not the NHS,. We are spending more on


health service which his party did not want to spend. They wanted to


reduce the health service budget, but we have committed to keeping it


and increasing it. What we have got to do is make sure that we do


Download Subtitles