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End-use for us to be reckoned We will be dissecting the that by- | :38:35. | :38:39. | |
election win for Labour and trying to make sense of the results across | :38:39. | :38:47. | |
the North-East. With me to discuss a tall, and will be speaking to the | :38:47. | :38:50. | |
leader of Northumberland council who kept his seat despite calling | :38:50. | :38:58. | |
his home town a dump. We have been back to see the | :38:58. | :39:04. | |
collieries in County Durham. First up, the first woman ever to | :39:04. | :39:09. | |
be elected to represent South Shields in Parliament. Emma Lewell- | :39:09. | :39:13. | |
Buck took the seat with a comfortable majority. The former | :39:13. | :39:17. | |
social worker was clear what message she thought voters were | :39:17. | :39:22. | |
sending to the Government. I was pledging change. I will fight for | :39:22. | :39:28. | |
jobs for our young people, I will fight for growth in the town centre. | :39:28. | :39:32. | |
I will take the fight to the Tories on cuts they are making to hard- | :39:32. | :39:37. | |
pressed families. Labour gained 11 seats on Cumbria County Council | :39:37. | :39:46. | |
mainly at the cost of the Conservatives. Norma Redfearn's | :39:46. | :39:51. | |
victory means that not a single council in the north-east and | :39:51. | :39:57. | |
Cumbria is controlled by the Tories. The Government picked up a terrible | :39:57. | :40:02. | |
mess from the last Labour government. It has been difficult | :40:02. | :40:08. | |
for them, they have had to make some very hard decisions. I think | :40:08. | :40:11. | |
local government and everybody else have had to cut their cloth | :40:11. | :40:19. | |
accordingly. The defeated mayor of North Tyneside. UKIP arguably made | :40:20. | :40:28. | |
the biggest waves with a strong second place in South Shields. | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
According to their deputy leader, it puts them in a good position for | :40:31. | :40:38. | |
next year's European elections. is showing UKIP is not just a | :40:38. | :40:43. | |
southern-based party. We can come into the North and Paul excellently | :40:43. | :40:50. | |
as well. It bodes well for the European elections next year. | :40:50. | :40:55. | |
for the Liberal Democrats, seventh place in the by-election just ahead | :40:55. | :41:00. | |
of that Monster Raving Loonies was a truly shocking result. More | :41:00. | :41:06. | |
damaging, the loss of 15 council seats in Northumberland. In Cumbria | :41:06. | :41:13. | |
the Lib Dems but the trend and gained one. It has been an OK day, | :41:13. | :41:19. | |
but it is really only to plan. We anticipated making a few gains, and | :41:19. | :41:26. | |
it has come to fruition. The rare sight of a contented Lib Dem. | :41:26. | :41:32. | |
Voters in County Durham did turn to youth in the face -- in the shape | :41:32. | :41:36. | |
of the 19-year-old Thomas Nearney who became the youngest member in | :41:36. | :41:43. | |
Durham County Council's history. The sky is the limit. At the moment | :41:43. | :41:47. | |
that the focus is definitely on doing all I can and being as | :41:47. | :41:55. | |
accessible as I can. Plenty of political experience and wisdom | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
around the table. That by-election result and the Windsor North | :41:58. | :42:02. | |
Yorkshire, you have to accept that UKIP are taking votes from the | :42:02. | :42:09. | |
Conservatives. They are taking votes from all over the place. We | :42:09. | :42:14. | |
retain under our eight seats in the Scarborough Borough of. Regain that | :42:14. | :42:19. | |
UKIP made were from the independence. The Labour Party were | :42:19. | :42:23. | |
pushed into third place by Scarborough Borough, and the Lib | :42:23. | :42:29. | |
Dems came trailing in fifth. They won seats in North Yorkshire, not | :42:30. | :42:34. | |
in Durham when they were up against Labour. If it was the Conservative | :42:34. | :42:38. | |
and Liberal Democrat vote that collapsed in South Shields. We need | :42:38. | :42:44. | |
to look at why people voted for UKIP. People get disgruntled with | :42:44. | :42:50. | |
the Government in power. A lot of them do not like the message. They | :42:50. | :42:55. | |
like the anti-Europe, anti- immigration message from UKIP. | :42:55. | :42:59. | |
have cut immigration by a third and a probing with the tremendous | :42:59. | :43:03. | |
deficit. If people look closely at the policies have you kept, they | :43:03. | :43:09. | |
may not see a resonance with them. In terms of the last election, they | :43:09. | :43:14. | |
were promising 125 billion in increase spending but had no means | :43:14. | :43:24. | |
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of its Ben -- paying for. They want to go back to smoking in pubs. | :43:25. | :43:29. | |
need good keens in the county elections, but you're only winning | :43:29. | :43:34. | |
in areas where Labour has always one in the past. In some respects, | :43:34. | :43:40. | |
I feel as if I am dancing at someone else's wake. Labour had a | :43:40. | :43:44. | |
good gains across the country. But I would like to say a couple of | :43:44. | :43:49. | |
things about UKIP. I spoke to people on the doorstep who had | :43:49. | :43:55. | |
already posted their postal vote and voted UKIP. These were Labour | :43:55. | :43:58. | |
voters and they told me they were protesting against the | :43:58. | :44:02. | |
Establishment, feeling as if they were not being listened to. They | :44:02. | :44:08. | |
told me very clearly, come the general election, we will be voting | :44:08. | :44:12. | |
Labour. Labour did not lose one single councillor across the | :44:12. | :44:19. | |
country to UKIP us. Do you accept it may not just be about protest. | :44:19. | :44:25. | |
Some of their messages may appeal to Labour voters. We have to take | :44:25. | :44:30. | |
those things very seriously. Some people who are voting for UKIP were | :44:30. | :44:34. | |
saying to me, we will not vote for them and a general election, but we | :44:34. | :44:38. | |
need to make our protests because we feel the three main parties are | :44:38. | :44:44. | |
not listening to us. Quite an achievement for you, given all that | :44:44. | :44:52. | |
was going on, to hold on to your seat. What you put that down to? | :44:52. | :44:58. | |
all put a lot of hard work in, and I guess having a higher profile and | :44:58. | :45:03. | |
having done the work, and knocked on hundreds of doors was enough to | :45:03. | :45:07. | |
push me past the finishing line. Even though you have a bit of a | :45:08. | :45:15. | |
nasty publicity. I did. But I was able to stand in front of people | :45:15. | :45:19. | |
and explain the context of the comment and what I actually meant | :45:19. | :45:25. | |
was about the retail offering in that time I belonged to. Your party | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
to go real hammering in the Northumberland and Durham. The | :45:30. | :45:35. | |
result in South Shields, do you have to accept some parts of the | :45:35. | :45:42. | |
north-east see your party as dead? No, I do not accept that after all. | :45:42. | :45:47. | |
We are part of the Government and governments never do very well in | :45:47. | :45:51. | |
parliamentary by-elections. Conservatives got fired in South | :45:51. | :45:58. | |
Shields, you were seven. I except a was a bad results, but you need to | :45:58. | :46:03. | |
think about UKIP, in the past we were seen as the anti-establishment | :46:03. | :46:09. | |
party. We cannot claim to be that any more because we are part of the | :46:09. | :46:16. | |
Establishment, we are part of national government. Robert, what | :46:16. | :46:21. | |
does your Prime Minister need to do to see off the UKIP threat question | :46:21. | :46:26. | |
mark we need to listen to the reasons that people voted for UKIP. | :46:26. | :46:31. | |
In many ways the voted for them because they cannot vote for the | :46:31. | :46:34. | |
traditional receptacle for protest vote which was the Liberal | :46:34. | :46:41. | |
Democrats. By and large, certainly on the doorstep... Should | :46:41. | :46:47. | |
Conservatives look at UKIP policies? Certainly not. Perhaps | :46:47. | :46:54. | |
they could be stronger on immigration or Europe. People blame | :46:54. | :46:58. | |
the European Union, but sometimes it is the European Court of Human | :46:58. | :47:02. | |
Rights. On the doorstep I heard people say they were going to vote | :47:02. | :47:08. | |
UKIP, but at the general election they will vote for us. We have a | :47:08. | :47:12. | |
big challenge in the European elections because people's votes | :47:12. | :47:17. | |
are not wasted. And I think UKIP will mount a major challenge at | :47:17. | :47:23. | |
that election. Labour, the people you have got to defeat to go into | :47:23. | :47:29. | |
government, the mayoral election in North Tyneside was a bad defeat for | :47:29. | :47:36. | |
the Conservatives. That is true. My seat was taken by Labour with a | :47:36. | :47:46. | |
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five and a half 1000 majority in I did not expect the Conservatives | :47:51. | :47:53. | |
to be topping the poll in Scarborough and Whitby, but we did | :47:53. | :47:59. | |
quite comfortably for. That is the point, Labour are not making the | :47:59. | :48:05. | |
progress that the needs. You need to look at these county council | :48:05. | :48:10. | |
elections, it they have never been our heartland. We have never won in | :48:10. | :48:16. | |
places like the southeast or the south-west, in 40 years. Even with | :48:16. | :48:21. | |
everything that is going on you were not beaten the Conservative us. | :48:21. | :48:31. | |
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In 2009, the Tories lost 200 -- gained 244 seats. We have been | :48:33. | :48:38. | |
gaining in places where we need to win. In Derbyshire we had to take | :48:38. | :48:45. | |
it, and we did. We also took Harlow, seeds in Cornwall and Norwich. | :48:45. | :48:52. | |
These are all places we need to win. We could have done by ETA. | :48:52. | :48:56. | |
mention before something needs to be done to tackle this perception | :48:56. | :49:01. | |
that none of the main three parties are talking to people about their | :49:01. | :49:07. | |
concerns. What can Labour do about that? One of the things people are | :49:07. | :49:12. | |
saying is that Labour are not listening to our concerns. There | :49:12. | :49:20. | |
was a real perception that politicians cannot change our lives. | :49:20. | :49:26. | |
Austerity has really hit the north- east, people are really feeling it. | :49:26. | :49:29. | |
Shouldn't they be turning to you in their droves? No-one should be | :49:29. | :49:34. | |
thinking about voting for UKIP, they can all vote for Labour | :49:34. | :49:40. | |
because you were fighting austerity. In my area it was almost impossible | :49:40. | :49:46. | |
to get any more seats. Labour took 94 seats. You could not do any | :49:46. | :49:50. | |
better in that and this is the part of the world hit harder by | :49:50. | :49:55. | |
coalition policies. Jeffrey, how long can you party continued to | :49:55. | :50:05. | |
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lose counsellors? Your party can keep taking the is kind of losses. | :50:05. | :50:11. | |
I have been doing this for more or less 40 years, and I have seen just | :50:11. | :50:17. | |
about everything you can see. This is a really bad time for us, but it | :50:17. | :50:24. | |
will turn around. Will it? This is different. You got into a coalition | :50:24. | :50:28. | |
with Conservatives. In areas you are competing with Labour the | :50:28. | :50:31. | |
evidence is that voters do not like that and they will not forgive the | :50:31. | :50:37. | |
use. They may not, but being a committed Liberal Democrat, I have | :50:37. | :50:44. | |
to believe if we express our views to enough people, then it will | :50:44. | :50:50. | |
become what people want to vote for. Would it be easier if you began to | :50:50. | :50:53. | |
unshackled your cells from his coalition before the next election? | :50:53. | :50:59. | |
I think it is important we carry on in trying to deliver the economic | :50:59. | :51:04. | |
prosperity that everyone has cravings. Even if the cost is more | :51:04. | :51:08. | |
councillors losing their seats in the next couple of years. Obviously, | :51:08. | :51:14. | |
I do not want to see that happen, but the reality is that we are in a | :51:15. | :51:20. | |
whole. The country is in a whole. We have to stop digging and get | :51:20. | :51:26. | |
ourselves out of the predicament we are in. The Labour Party are not | :51:26. | :51:34. | |
actually saying anything different to what the coalition are doing. I | :51:34. | :51:38. | |
do not know what the Labour Party would do to get us out of the | :51:38. | :51:45. | |
situation. None of this year's election results were quite as | :51:45. | :51:49. | |
surprising as events in Hartlepool 11 years ago when voters shows by | :51:49. | :51:59. | |
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man in a monkey suit to run the Northern farmers have a new ally in | :52:06. | :52:11. | |
their dealings with the big four supermarkets. Farmers can report | :52:11. | :52:16. | |
any supermarket which tries to force them into accepting unfair | :52:16. | :52:24. | |
prices. South Tyneside councillor David Potts has died aged just 30 | :52:24. | :52:32. | |
after hospital treatment for Further cutbacks have been | :52:32. | :52:38. | |
announced by Cumbria police. Five times will only open police | :52:38. | :52:42. | |
stations front counters for part of the day. | :52:42. | :52:46. | |
The first and last a elected mayor of Hartlepool has left office after | :52:46. | :52:54. | |
local people voted to scrap the role. His career began in 2002 when | :52:54. | :53:04. | |
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he steered it as Hartlepool's of Best wishes to Stuart Drummond for | :53:09. | :53:14. | |
his future. 20 years ago this week centuries of | :53:14. | :53:17. | |
coal-mining came to an end in County Durham. A programme | :53:17. | :53:21. | |
announced by John Major's government seal the fate of many | :53:21. | :53:26. | |
coal pits. 20 years on, what has happened to the men who work there | :53:26. | :53:35. | |
and how has the economy coped. Smart, new housing in South Shields. | :53:35. | :53:40. | |
Estate agents might call it a desirable area, but it hides a | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
secret. You could perhaps be anywhere in | :53:43. | :53:48. | |
the country, but almost hidden away next to this new estate there is | :53:48. | :53:54. | |
something else. It is part of the North East's industrial heritage. | :53:54. | :54:04. | |
All that remains of an old colliery. 20 years ago this month it closed. | :54:04. | :54:10. | |
It is very sad. I felt my future was here. When I came here I | :54:10. | :54:16. | |
thought, I will get my retirement out of this. I certainly had its | :54:16. | :54:25. | |
faults that may be my son would take the job up. The last four pits | :54:25. | :54:30. | |
in the County Durham coalfield. In the start of the 90s may employ | :54:30. | :54:37. | |
nearly 7,000 men. In late 1992, John Major's government announced a | :54:37. | :54:45. | |
pit closure programme. This is an awful decision, but I am afraid it | :54:45. | :54:51. | |
is unavoidable. Miners went to London to rally the Government, but | :54:51. | :54:58. | |
it was to no avail. Both Keith and Jimmy eventually found work but say | :54:58. | :55:03. | |
there is a big gap in the north- east economy for. We have this | :55:03. | :55:08. | |
economy where we rely on call centres and distribution centres. | :55:08. | :55:16. | |
That does not require skills. Nor does it give opportunities. At the | :55:16. | :55:23. | |
Pit, you could rise up through the ranks. The archive images contrast | :55:23. | :55:29. | |
sharply with what it looks like today. Yes, another housing estate | :55:29. | :55:34. | |
and a pretty smart looking one. You might say, the very picture of | :55:34. | :55:39. | |
prosperity. After the shock of the end of the County Durham coalfield, | :55:39. | :55:47. | |
was the gap left in our economy really that they? In 1992 there | :55:47. | :55:51. | |
were 4168 people claiming jobseeker's benefits in the Eastern | :55:51. | :55:58. | |
District. The latest figures show that figure has fallen to 3408. But | :55:58. | :56:02. | |
economists say we need to be cautious. There has been a decrease | :56:03. | :56:07. | |
in people claiming unemployment benefit, but that does not account | :56:07. | :56:12. | |
for people take him out of the labour market altogether. People | :56:12. | :56:16. | |
claiming sickness benefit. There is huge changes in the structure of | :56:16. | :56:22. | |
the working market. Also the type of jobs, quality of jobs and rates | :56:22. | :56:30. | |
of pay. For some, the closure of Durham's Pitts was an opportunity. | :56:30. | :56:34. | |
Tim is now a maths teacher, but he started his working life at a | :56:34. | :56:40. | |
colliery. I got a big push to say, you really need to try and do | :56:40. | :56:44. | |
something else because the mines are going away from us. | :56:44. | :56:49. | |
Shipbuilding had gone, it was difficult. Without the help of a | :56:49. | :56:53. | |
lot of people, especially the family, I would never have made it. | :56:53. | :56:58. | |
I tried to pass on to my students, the enrichment of my life was | :56:58. | :57:03. | |
getting through those harder times. I want them to know what they can | :57:03. | :57:08. | |
do and get out of life if they tried. Some have moved on from the | :57:08. | :57:14. | |
pits, others mourn their passing. But 22 years on, there is no going | :57:14. | :57:24. | |
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Would you accept that these places have recovered and in some ways | :57:26. | :57:32. | |
look better? There are a number of issues around that, environmentally | :57:32. | :57:36. | |
people in my constituency are constantly fighting battles against | :57:36. | :57:40. | |
open cast proposals. Instead of having deep mines that employed | :57:40. | :57:45. | |
people with good, well paid jobs, we're getting applications to scour | :57:46. | :57:51. | |
the entire landscape. Local people do not want that and are constantly | :57:51. | :57:53. | |
fighting against it. Environmentally there have been | :57:54. | :57:58. | |
improvements, though we have got to get that into context. If we had a | :57:59. | :58:02. | |
longer discussion we could talk about what is region needs, in this | :58:02. | :58:09. | |
structure, jobs and dignities. Too many people never had a proper jobs | :58:09. | :58:19. | |
after the mines closed. -- this region needs infrastructure. People | :58:19. | :58:24. | |
want jobs that bring in decent money that will feed their families. | :58:24. | :58:29. | |
At the moment, it too many young people are going the way we did in | :58:29. | :58:33. | |
the 1980s. We're losing a generation of young people who are | :58:33. | :58:38. | |
unemployed. Robert, at the time the Conservative Government insisted it | :58:38. | :58:43. | |
would not lead to mass coal imports and depending on other countries | :58:43. | :58:48. | |
for our energy needs. That was obviously wrong, was a short- | :58:48. | :58:53. | |
sighted? We were in the ear of North Sea gas and had our own | :58:53. | :59:02. | |
resources. -- in the year round. These days people may need to | :59:02. | :59:06. | |
retrain and redeploy themselves into different jobs during their | :59:06. | :59:10. | |
working life. The Secretary of State for Transport is a former | :59:10. | :59:15. | |
miner. In my constituency we have a planning application for a new pot | :59:15. | :59:21. | |
- mind which will create 1000 jobs. Do you think people are prepared to | :59:21. | :59:27. | |
go down a deep mine? The modern ones are much different to being in | :59:27. | :59:31. | |
a coal mine, you drive around and Land Rovers at the bottom of the | :59:31. | :59:36. | |
pit. It is an altogether different thing. The effect on the overall | :59:36. | :59:43. | |
economy will be tremendous. We have Nissan in Sunderland, we have new | :59:43. | :59:47. | |
industries coming in creating jobs. Miners did not want their sons to | :59:47. | :59:53. | |
go back down the pit, they wanted them to get an education. Jeffrey, | :59:53. | :59:57. | |
is the north-east a better place without these pits, or of our | :59:57. | :00:07. | |
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communities damaged? It is 20 years and a we are lacking that social | :00:09. | :00:16. | |
cohesion that these mines give our communities. We have an enterprise | :00:16. | :00:25. | |
zone on the estuary, and National renewable energy centre, but I | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
think one day we are going to have to go back and get whatever coal is | :00:29. | :00:36. | |
there. Will we ever see deep coal mines in County Down Again? I think | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
they have been largely flooded now and it would cost a fortune to get | :00:40. | :00:47. | |
them right. However, as fossil fuels disappear, as you lose things | :00:47. | :00:52. | |
like all in, the call, and they understand we have more than was | :00:52. | :00:59. | |
ever taken out, that becomes more and more valuable. You can see more | :00:59. | :01:03. | |
reports on his pit closures and their impact on Look North next | :01:03. | :01:06. |