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Morning folks. Welcome to the Sunday Politics. | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
Pressure on Culture Secretary Maria Miller mounts as the Tory press | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
Tory voters and even a Tory Minister turn against her. That's our top | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
story. The economic outlook is getting | :00:50. | :00:52. | |
rosier. But Ed Miliband is having none of it. The cost of living | :00:53. | :00:57. | |
crisis is here to stay, says Labour. Shadow Minister Caroline Flint joins | :00:58. | :01:07. | |
us for the Sunday Interview. And we bring you the Sunday Politics | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
Gallery. But which former world leader is behind these paintings of | :01:11. | :01:12. | |
And coming up in the North Dast and world | :01:13. | :01:19. | |
And coming up in the North Dast and Cumbria... | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
new London borough. A blue flint for regeneration or economic Armageddon? | :01:25. | :01:34. | |
And with me as always, the best and the brightest political panel in the | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
business - Janan Ganesh, Helen Lewis and Nick Watt. Their tweets will be | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
as brief as a Cabinet Minister's apology. | :01:43. | :01:48. | |
A frenzy of betting on the Grand National yesterday. But there was | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
one book on which betting was suspended, and that was on the fate | :01:53. | :01:55. | |
of Culture Secretary Maria Miller, now the 2/1 favourite to be forced | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
out the Cabinet. She galloped through her apology to the Commons | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
on Thursday in just 32 seconds. But speed did her no favours. There s | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
been mounting pressure on her to resign ever since, especially from | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
Tories. And this weekend the Chairman of the Independent | :02:10. | :02:11. | |
Parliamentary Standards Authority, Ian Kennedy, said it's time MPs gave | :02:12. | :02:14. | |
away the power to decide how colleagues who break the rules are | :02:15. | :02:29. | |
punished. An inquiry into Maria Miller's expenses claims was launch | :02:30. | :02:34. | |
in 2012, following allegations he claimed ?90,000 to fund a house she | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
lived in part time with her parents. She had designated this her second | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
home. She was referred to the Parliamentary Standards | :02:45. | :02:46. | |
Commissioner, who recommended that she repay ?45,000. But this week the | :02:47. | :02:53. | |
Commons Standards Committee, comprising of MPs from all parties, | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
dismissed the complaint against Maria Miller and ordered her to | :02:59. | :03:04. | |
repay just ?5,800 for inadvertently overclaiming her merge claimants. | :03:05. | :03:12. | |
She was forced to apologise to the Commons for the legalistic way she | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
dealt with the complaints against her. But Tony Gallagher told the | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
Daily Politics on Friday: We got a third call from Craig Oliver who | :03:21. | :03:25. | |
pointed out, she is looking at Leveson and the call is badly timed. | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
I think if you are making a series of telephone calls to a newspaper | :03:31. | :03:32. | |
organisation investigating the conduct of a Cabinet Minister, that | :03:33. | :03:33. | |
comes close After that interview Craig Oliver | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
contacted us, saying there was no threat in anyway over Leveson. I | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
mead it clear at the time. Tony Gallagher is talking rubbish about | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
me, and you can use that. The Daily Telegraph have released a tape of a | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
phone call between Maria Miller s aid, Joanna Hindley, and a reporter | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
investigating her expenses claim. Joanna Hindley said: | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
Maria's obviously been having quite a lot of editor's meetings around | :04:01. | :04:07. | |
Leveson at the moment. So I'm just going to kind of flag up that | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
connection for you to think about. The Prime Minister is sticking by | :04:14. | :04:15. | |
his Culture Secretary, but this weekend's crescendo of criticism of | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
her presents him with a problem and he could be wishing Maria Miller | :04:19. | :04:22. | |
would just fall on her sword. Even over 80% of Tory voters in a Mail on | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
Sunday poll think she should go On the Andrew Marr Show, the Work and | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
Pensions Secretary, Iain Duncan Smith, defended his colleague. I've | :04:31. | :04:37. | |
known her always to be a reasonable and honest person. But is she doing | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
the Government or her any good by staying in office at the moment do | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
you think? This is a matter the Prime Minister has to take | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
consideration of and she herself. My view generally is I'm supportive of | :04:50. | :04:54. | |
Maria, because if we are not careful we end one a witch-hunt of somebody. | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
And I'm joined now by the Conservative MP, Bob Stewart, and | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
the man in the white suit, former MP and anti-sleaze campaigner Martin | :05:03. | :05:04. | |
Bell. Welcome to you both. Stuart Stuart sturkts let me put this to | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
you, a Conservative MP told this programme, this is a quote, she has | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
handled this appallingly. Downing Street has acted like judge and | :05:12. | :05:17. | |
jury, for Craig Oliver to get involved is disastrous. She's been | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
protected by the whips from the start. What do you say to that? It's | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
not great, is it? The fact of the matter is the question one should | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
ask is, did she deliberately try to make money? Did she deliberately try | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
to obscure ate? The answer is she certainly didn't deliberately try to | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
make money, in the system, which was the old system, and with regard to | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
obscure ago, I wasn't there, but let's put it this way. She was going | :05:44. | :05:49. | |
through a quasi-judicial process and might have ended up in court, so she | :05:50. | :05:54. | |
has a right to defend herself. Hold on o you said she doesn't do it to | :05:55. | :05:58. | |
make money, she remortgaged the house a couple of times to earn more | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
interest to us, the taxpayer, and when interest rates went down she | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
didn't reduce the amount she was charging in expenses. Well, the | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
point is the adjudicator said there was ?45,000 she was owed. And then a | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
committee, Standards Committee, said actually it should be reduced. That | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
was mainly MPs but there are three lay members. Yes, but they don't | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
have the vote. OK, fine, that is where it is wrong and we've got to | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
get it sorted. Let me put another quote from our Conservative MP. He | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
didn't want to be named. None of you do at the moment. I'm being named. | :06:34. | :06:39. | |
But you are backing her. George young in cahoots. He's been leading | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
on the Standards Committee to find her innocent. The Standards | :06:43. | :06:47. | |
Committee is unfit for purpose. I think the Standards Committee should | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
be revisited. I think the system is still evolving. And I think actually | :06:52. | :06:57. | |
we ought to have totally independent judgment on MPs' pay and allowances. | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
We haven't have not got there yet and that is where it is wrong. | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
Martin Bell, have MPs interfered in the Maria Miller process and with | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
the current Standards Commissioner in the same way that they saw off a | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
previous Commissioner they thought was too independent? Andrew it is | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
exactly the same. Yesterday I looked at a diary entry I made for May | :07:20. | :07:27. | |
2000, I said, dreadful meeting standards and privileges, they are | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
playing party politics. One of them told Elizabeth fill kin to her face | :07:34. | :07:39. | |
the gossip in the tea room was she had gone crazy. Nothing's changed. | :07:40. | :07:43. | |
What this shows is most of all, what's the committee for? If it is | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
just going to rubber stamp what the party wants and its mates, I don't | :07:49. | :07:54. | |
see any point. But it hasn't rubber stamped. It's changed it. Well, it | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
has watered down. That's why we should make it totally independent | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
and it shouldn't be involved in the House of Commons. It is plus plus ca | :08:04. | :08:10. | |
change isn't it? MPs', scandal, and MPs closing ranks for one of their | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
own. Has the Commons learned nothing? And this is after the | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
expenses scandal, where everything was out for everybody to see, you | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
would think MPs would be careful. This is before the expenses scandal. | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
We are looking at an historical event, during your time, Martin not | :08:29. | :08:32. | |
mine. I'm clean on this. You campaigned for him as an | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
independent. I did, he was a good friend of mine. And now you've | :08:38. | :08:42. | |
joined the club. And now you are defending Maria Miller? I'm | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
defending someone who hasn't been proved guilty of anything beyond the | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
fact she was rather slow to come forward with evidence. My point on | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
that, is I understand that. MPs are being lambasted the whole time these | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
days. There were a heck of a lot of them, Martin, who are utterly | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
decent. She didn't try to make money. We've just been through that. | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
I don't think that's right. The jury is out on that. What should have | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
happened in the Miller case, Martin Bell? I don't think there should be | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
a committee on standards. I think the Commissioner should make a | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
report. There has been to be justice for the MP complained against. Then | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
the committee of the whole House can consider it. But we are, the House | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
of Commons, then as now is incapable of regulating itself. That's been | :09:30. | :09:37. | |
proving yet again. She made a perfunctory apology. She threatened | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
and instructed the Standards Commissioner investigating her, and | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
her special adviser linked expenses to Leveson, when trying to stop the | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
Daily Telegraph from publishing I mean, is that the behaviour of a | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
Cabinet Minister? Well, it's probably not the behaviour of | :09:55. | :09:57. | |
someone that's got time on their hands. She's a very busy Cabinet | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
Minister. Well, she had enough time to write lots of letters to the | :10:03. | :10:08. | |
Standards Commission ser. She felt under such threat. She had the time. | :10:09. | :10:15. | |
She had to make the time. Die know the lady is not trying desperately | :10:16. | :10:18. | |
to make money. I disagree but on that. The fact of the matter is | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
this was an old, old system, that we've tried to put right, or the | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
Commons has tried to put right. I agree that MPs shouldn't get | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
involved in this. Should we get rid of this committee? It serves no | :10:33. | :10:38. | |
purpose except to cause trouble The adjudicator has said that and it | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
should be the end of it. It shouldn't come back to the Commons. | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
Although her special adviser threatened them over Leveson she was | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
and is the Minister responsible for trying to introduce something like | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
Leveson and that is something a big chunk that the press doesn't want. | :10:56. | :11:02. | |
She is a target. It has a good record on this issue. It played wit | :11:03. | :11:08. | |
a straight bat. The facts aren't in dispute are they? Will she make it | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
to the next cabinet reshuffle and then go? Iain Duncan Smith said it | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
is a matter for the Prime Minister. In my view, as things stand, I | :11:18. | :11:23. | |
question did she deliberately want to make money? I don't think she | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
did. Should she go? No. Should she be reshuffled? I don't know. | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
Goodness me, you are asking someone who will never be reshuffled, | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
because he will never make it. I was only asking for your opinion, not | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
your ability to do it. This is a problem for Cameron isn't it? It is | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
a problem for Cameron. There is nothing wrong with returning to be | :11:49. | :11:54. | |
badge benches, as you know. Hear, hear. To that. Stick with me. Helen, | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
can she survive? Is I'm going out of the prediction game when I said | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
Clegg is going to win the date, so I owe Janan a tenner on that one. | :12:07. | :12:12. | |
Grant Shapps has supported her. She was ringed by Sir George young and | :12:13. | :12:19. | |
Jeremy Hunt... This is pretty devastating. On past form David | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
Cameron hates having to bounce people out of the cabinet. He will | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
want to keep Maria Miller until the summer reshuffle. This is a question | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
mark on whether she survive this is. This isn't damaging to the | :12:34. | :12:35. | |
Conservative or the Labour Party, it is damaging to everyone. This is | :12:36. | :12:41. | |
catastrophic damage to the entire political establishment. Every | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
single speech that David Cameron and Ed Miliband have given since 20 9, | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
talking about restoring trust, they can wipe them from their computers, | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
because voters are going to look that there and say, this lot haven't | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
learnt anything. They are giving perfunctory apologies and then you | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
have MPs sitting in judgment on MPs and rather than paying back ?45 000, | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
she pays back ?5,800 after MPs have been into it. Damage is huge. Just | :13:09. | :13:13. | |
getting rid of one Cabinet Minister, you will need to do more than that. | :13:14. | :13:17. | |
You will notice that Labour haven't made huge weather of this. No, | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
goodness me, they have their own skeletons. Exactly. The person who | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
has made hay out of this is Nigel Farage, who has not been backwards | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
in coming forward. He doesn't seem to care about skeletons. The Prime | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
Minister has be-Gunby backing her, but that's not popular even with | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
Tory voters. How does he get out of this? This is the problem for him. | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
Five years ago his reaction to the expenses scandal was seen by many | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
Tory backbenchers as excessive. They felt hung out to dry by a man who is | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
independently wealthy. To go from that to making a special exemption | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
to Maria Miller because it is politically suitable is more | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
incendiary and provocative. It is not just upsetting the voters and | :14:05. | :14:06. | |
the Daily Telegraph but a good number of people behind him. I think | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
they will get rid of her. I think the Government, to paraphrase | :14:12. | :14:17. | |
Churchill, will zoo the decent thing after exhausting all options, of the | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
European elections a reshuffle. The culture department has gone from a | :14:24. | :14:29. | |
baulk water in haul to one of the most politically sensational jobs | :14:30. | :14:31. | |
because of its proximity to the Leveson issue. She has to be | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
replaced by someone Lily skillful and substantial. Mr Cameron is not | :14:37. | :14:51. | |
short of smart women? Nikki Morgan, the education department, these are | :14:52. | :14:58. | |
absolutely outstanding women and the problem that the generation elected | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
in 2005, Maria Miller generation, there are some really good people | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
elected in 2010. You are not responsible for hacking into the | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
culture Department's Twitter account last night? I was out at the time! | :15:16. | :15:26. | |
They all say that! One so, Maria Miller is like a modern-day Robin | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
Hood... She robs the poor to help the rich. Which one of us has not | :15:31. | :15:37. | |
embezzled the taxpayer? I reckon it is the lady. You have the perfect | :15:38. | :15:46. | |
cover. We would not know how to would we? You cannot tweet from a | :15:47. | :15:56. | |
mobile device, can you? Play it safe. No, do something dramatic | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
Have lots of pledges. Have just a few pledges. Ah, there must be a | :16:01. | :16:03. | |
Labour policy review reaching its conclusion because everyone has some | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
free advice for the party about its message and the man delivering it. | :16:07. | :16:14. | |
Here's Adam. He is well liked by the public don't quite buy him as a | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
leader. The papers say he is in hock to the unions and the party has a | :16:21. | :16:23. | |
lead in the polls but it is not solid. Bartenders Neil Kinnock. That | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
is what they said Winnie who lost the 1982 election. The whole country | :16:29. | :16:36. | |
deserves better and we will work to ensure that the day will come when | :16:37. | :16:43. | |
with the Labour government, the country will get better. Someone who | :16:44. | :16:48. | |
was there can see some spooky parallels. The important lesson from | :16:49. | :16:54. | |
1992 is it cannot rest on your laurels and hope for the best, you | :16:55. | :16:58. | |
cannot sit on a lead of seven points because the election narrows that | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
and you cannot rely on the government not getting its act | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
together because the Conservative Party was well funded and organised, | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
the double whammy posters, the tax bombshell, but incredibly effective | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
and the message was unified and they beat us on the campaign. The lesson | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
for Labour today is this lead will evaporate quite possibly over the | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
next few months and we might go into the election behind in the polls. | :17:27. | :17:32. | |
But Ed Miliband is getting conflicting advice about how to | :17:33. | :17:35. | |
avoid 1992 happening. Be bold, be cautious and then, the idea that | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
Labour can squeak into office with just 35% of the vote, which worries | :17:42. | :17:47. | |
some people. Each month, the Labour Party meets around the country and | :17:48. | :17:53. | |
last week, everybody spoke about the dangers of this 35% strategy. They | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
were increasingly unhappy and it is very important that those people | :17:59. | :18:04. | |
around the leader naturally have a duty to protect him and they make | :18:05. | :18:09. | |
sure he gets this message that while there is total support for him, they | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
do want this key year in the run-up to the General Election to be | :18:16. | :18:18. | |
putting out an alternative which we can defend on the doorstep. The | :18:19. | :18:24. | |
doorstep where Neil Kinnock made his concession speech is crammed with | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
Spanish back hackers. The old Labour offices are no a budget hostel. | :18:30. | :18:37. | |
Labour headquarters is down the road and they are putting the finishing | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
touches to a speech Ed Miliband will give this week about the cost of | :18:42. | :18:44. | |
living and I am told he will drop hints about new policies in juicy | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
areas like housing, low pay, growth and devolving power. As for the | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
charge that they are not radical enough, his people say they want to | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
be bold but they have to be credible as well. They say that Labour is | :18:58. | :19:02. | |
more united than it has ever been but there has been some grumbling | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
that the cost of living campaign is not the same as a vision for the | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
country. And that Ed Miliband was not statesman-like enough at Prime | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
Minister's Questions and one figure who sat at the same table in the | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
Neil Kinnock years summed it up like this. Things are OK but it feels | :19:19. | :19:24. | |
like we're playing for the draw Shadow Energy Secretary Caroline | :19:25. | :19:27. | |
Flint joins me now for the Sunday Interview. This 35% victory | :19:28. | :19:41. | |
strategy, it does not sound very ambitious? I am campaigning to win | :19:42. | :19:48. | |
this election with a majority government and everybody else around | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
the table is also. But we want to go to every corner of the country and | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
win votes for Labour and win seats, that is what we are working towards. | :19:59. | :20:03. | |
To avoid last time, the coalition bartering. But that 35% is a victory | :20:04. | :20:10. | |
strategy so are you saying there is no 35% strategy and that no one at | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
the heart of Labour is not arguing for this? We are working to win | :20:16. | :20:21. | |
around the country and to win all of those battle ground seats and we | :20:22. | :20:25. | |
must have a strategy that appeals to a cross-section of the public but | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
within that, that broad group Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park and. You | :20:30. | :20:40. | |
could do that with 35% of the vote? There is lots of polling and | :20:41. | :20:42. | |
everyone looks at this about what we need to do to get seats and we want | :20:43. | :20:48. | |
to have a comprehensive majority at the next election to win to govern | :20:49. | :20:56. | |
this country. Last week, we have been reading reports of splits in | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
the party over policy and on tactics, even strategy. A struggle | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
for control of the General Election manifesto, we are told. What are you | :21:07. | :21:13. | |
arguing over? I said on the committee and just listening to the | :21:14. | :21:15. | |
film before, it is about being radical but also credible and we are | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
talking about evolution and that is an important subject but we are also | :21:21. | :21:27. | |
united and to be honest, in 201 people were writing us off saying we | :21:28. | :21:31. | |
would turn on ourselves and that has not been the case. We are not | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
arguing about the fundamentals, we are discussing the policies that are | :21:37. | :21:40. | |
coming up with different colleagues and talking about how we can make | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
sure they are presented to the public and that is part of a | :21:45. | :21:47. | |
process. That is a discussion, not disagreement. The Financial Times, | :21:48. | :21:55. | |
which is usually pretty fair, reports a battle between Ed | :21:56. | :22:01. | |
Miliband's radical instincts and the more business fiscal conservatism of | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
Ed Balls. What side are you on? I am for radical change, I am for energy | :22:06. | :22:10. | |
and I believe strongly we must be formed the market and people might | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
portray that as anti-business but this is about more competition and | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
transparency and others coming into this market so our policy on this is | :22:21. | :22:24. | |
radical, not excepting the status quo. It is also for business. | :22:25. | :22:32. | |
Opinion polls show that few people regard Ed Miliband as by Minister | :22:33. | :22:41. | |
material -- Prime Minister material. That has been true since he became | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
leader. And in some cases, they have been getting worse. Why is that | :22:47. | :22:52. | |
Opinion polls say certain things about the personalities of leaders, | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
David Cameron is not great either. And they were not great when he was | :22:58. | :23:03. | |
in opposition. At this stage, he was getting 49% as Prime Minister real | :23:04. | :23:10. | |
material and Ed Miliband, 19. - Prime Minister material. When you | :23:11. | :23:17. | |
look at certain questions that the public is asked about who you think | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
you would trust about being fair in terms of policy towards Britain who | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
understands the cost of living crisis, they very much identify with | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
Ed Miliband. We are ahead in the polls. Ed Miliband has made that | :23:31. | :23:37. | |
happen. We have one more councillors, we have been running in | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
by-elections and we have held this government over the barrel over six | :23:44. | :23:46. | |
months on energy prices. That is to do with his leadership. The more | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
that voters save him, the less they seem convinced. In 2011, he had been | :23:52. | :23:59. | |
leader for one year, and only 1 % regarded him as weird, by 2014, that | :24:00. | :24:08. | |
was 41%. Look at that! Look at that weirdness! What people need is to | :24:09. | :24:13. | |
know where the Labour Party stands on fundamental issues. And in those | :24:14. | :24:17. | |
areas, particularly the cost of living and fairness and people being | :24:18. | :24:22. | |
concerned that we are entering into a period where people will be worse | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
for the first time ever at the end of the Parliament, these things are | :24:27. | :24:31. | |
important and Ed Miliband is part of our success. Definitely. I think | :24:32. | :24:39. | |
this is ridiculous, to be fair, he is not a politician that says, I am | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
dying with the Arctic monkeys, I know who is the number one. He did | :24:45. | :24:52. | |
not play that game. -- down. He is not either there to portray himself | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
as someone who was with the children, I know everything about | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
popular culture. His authenticity is the most important thing. People do | :25:03. | :25:05. | |
not think he is authentic, unless they think we were at is authentic. | :25:06. | :25:12. | |
Is it true that his staff applaud him when he comes back after giving | :25:13. | :25:18. | |
even a mediocre speech? I have never heard that. I have never heard about | :25:19. | :25:26. | |
him being applauded. And I am pleased to applaud him with he makes | :25:27. | :25:29. | |
speeches, I have given him a standing ovation. You have to do | :25:30. | :25:33. | |
that because the cameras are rolling! No, he made a good speech. | :25:34. | :25:40. | |
Five minutes without notes. It took a long time to memorise I don't | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
blame him! The cost of living. Focusing on that, it has paid | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
dividends. But inflation is falling and perhaps collapsing, unemployment | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
is falling faster than anybody thought, as we can see. Wages are | :25:55. | :26:01. | |
rising, soon faster than prices Retail sales are booming, people | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
have got money in their pockets Isn't the cost of living crisis | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
narrative running out of steam? I do not think so and I should say that I | :26:12. | :26:17. | |
welcome any sign of positive changes in the economy, if anybody gets a | :26:18. | :26:22. | |
job in Doncaster, I am pleased by the end of this Parliament families | :26:23. | :26:28. | |
will be over ?900 worse off because of tax and benefit changes and the | :26:29. | :26:35. | |
working person is ?1600 worse off and it is the first government since | :26:36. | :26:38. | |
the 1870s where people will be at the end of the Parliament. We | :26:39. | :26:42. | |
believe the government made wrong choices that lead the rich off at | :26:43. | :26:45. | |
the expense of those on middle and lower incomes. -- let the rich. The | :26:46. | :26:54. | |
average family ?794 worse off from tax and benefit changes. That has | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
been backed up. They are those figures. But he has skewed these | :27:00. | :27:04. | |
figures by including the richest, where the fall in tax and the | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
penalty they pay is highest. If you take away the richest, it is nowhere | :27:10. | :27:15. | |
near that figure. Everybody agrees and even the government and | :27:16. | :27:18. | |
knowledges that at the end of their tenure in Parliament, people will be | :27:19. | :27:25. | |
worse off. 350,000 extra people who would desperately like full-time | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
work who are working part-time and 1 million young people unemployed and | :27:30. | :27:32. | |
the reason the cost of living has a residence is people feel that. I was | :27:33. | :27:38. | |
in a supermarket and at Doncaster and someone summed this up, he said | :27:39. | :27:43. | |
I work hard and at the end of the week, beyond paying bills, I have | :27:44. | :27:47. | |
got nothing else. If you take away the top 10% who are losing over | :27:48. | :27:55. | |
?600,000, the average loss comes down to around ?400, less than half | :27:56. | :28:02. | |
of what you claim. That figure is totally misleading. These are the | :28:03. | :28:08. | |
figures from the IFS. It still shows... Whatever way you shape | :28:09. | :28:15. | |
this, people will still be worse off, families worse off because of | :28:16. | :28:18. | |
these changes to tax and benefits and working people because wages | :28:19. | :28:24. | |
have not kept up with prices. Your energy portfolio, you back the | :28:25. | :28:29. | |
enquiry into the big six companies and you intend to go ahead with the | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
price freeze and reconfigure the market even before it reports. If | :28:34. | :28:39. | |
you win, this is a waste of time? Whilst we have had this process | :28:40. | :28:42. | |
before the announcement, we always feel if it goes that way, there | :28:43. | :28:47. | |
might be areas we have not thought of that the enquiry will also draw | :28:48. | :28:50. | |
attention to that we might want to add on. You are right, our basic | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
reforms for the new regulator, to separate generation supply, we will | :28:56. | :29:01. | |
pursue that. What happens if this report concludes that your plans are | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
not correct? You will still go ahead? I don't think so. Actually, | :29:06. | :29:10. | |
if you look at the report that Ofgem produced, some of the issues Labour | :29:11. | :29:14. | |
has been drawing attention to like vertical integration, they cover | :29:15. | :29:19. | |
that. I was asking about the Competition Commission? The report | :29:20. | :29:25. | |
last week is a result of working together and I think it is clearly | :29:26. | :29:32. | |
accepted in this sector, look at SSE last week, they will separate the | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
business. We are pushing at the open door. It has already pulled out of | :29:37. | :29:56. | |
gas. So it follows if you freeze energy prices across the market it | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
might be the right thing to do but there will be a cost in terms of | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
jobs and investment, correct? Well, I met with SSE last weekand the | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
chief executive and talked about these issues. The jobs changes are | :30:08. | :30:12. | |
partly about them looking at how they could be more efficient as a | :30:13. | :30:15. | |
company. On offshore wind that wasn't really to do with the price | :30:16. | :30:19. | |
freeze. That was more to do with issues around confidence in that | :30:20. | :30:21. | |
area and therefore willing to put the money into it, as well as | :30:22. | :30:27. | |
technical issues as well But there'll be job losses. Is that a | :30:28. | :30:33. | |
price worth paying? We believe the reason we are having a price freeze | :30:34. | :30:37. | |
is these companies have been overcharging customers and haven't | :30:38. | :30:40. | |
been investing in their organisations and making them more | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
efficient. I do not believe a price freeze is linked to job losses. | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
These companies do need to be more efficient. Goal for all of us is | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
realising the fantastic opportunity for more jobs and growth from an | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
energy sector that has certainty going forward. That's what Labour | :30:57. | :31:00. | |
will deliver. Caroline Flint, thank you. | :31:01. | :31:03. | |
It's 1130 and you're watching The Sunday Politics. We say goodbye to | :31:04. | :31:05. | |
viewers in Scotland, who leave us now for Sunday Politics Scotland. | :31:06. | :31:07. | |
Half Good afternoon. This afternoon, Coming up here | :31:08. | :31:28. | |
Half Good afternoon. This afternoon, we are talking about plans to shake | :31:29. | :31:33. | |
up English Heritage. There `re worries that many centres could | :31:34. | :31:37. | |
close to the public. In the main strike was 30 years ago and there is | :31:38. | :31:42. | |
a call for an enquiry into police tactics during the main str`ight. | :31:43. | :31:51. | |
The three enterprise partnerships in the region have the submittdd bids | :31:52. | :31:58. | |
for millions of pounds of extra money and new powers. They will have | :31:59. | :32:03. | |
to compete with 36 other bids from across the United Kingdom for a | :32:04. | :32:13. | |
slice of the ?2 billion pot. The Conservatives say it will ddliver | :32:14. | :32:19. | |
hundreds of jobs and businesses but labour is sceptical. You ard heavily | :32:20. | :32:27. | |
involved in the fund at its inception. The number of jobs | :32:28. | :32:33. | |
promised have not come throtgh. If you look at the companies who have | :32:34. | :32:43. | |
money in the North East, thd likes of Nissan, the engineering `nd | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
manufacturing sector has done tremendously well. Manufacttring, | :32:49. | :32:55. | |
exports, whose businesses. But surely that is not really for the | :32:56. | :33:02. | |
fund was set up for. It is to help the growth and exports and H think | :33:03. | :33:05. | |
it is working extremely well. That is just in the North East. Ht has | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
happened in other parts of the country and is helping to rdbalance | :33:11. | :33:14. | |
the economy to the manufacttring sector, which we want to sed. The | :33:15. | :33:20. | |
North East has done well out of the fun compared to regions, such as the | :33:21. | :33:33. | |
building of the new bridge. The pain reason for the fund is to ensure | :33:34. | :33:38. | |
growth in employment and jobs in the region. I am not satisfied that this | :33:39. | :33:45. | |
has been productive, partictlarly on my part of the North East. There has | :33:46. | :33:52. | |
only been about ?1.4 million spent from the fund in my area. It has | :33:53. | :34:01. | |
helped some business to get established, it has maybe treated | :34:02. | :34:07. | |
remaining 260 jobs. It is wdlcome, but it is not what we need. We need | :34:08. | :34:12. | |
more money. By creating extra money in the region, is it not better for | :34:13. | :34:19. | |
the North East as a whole. @s I say, 260 jobs and everyone of thdm is | :34:20. | :34:25. | |
welcome in North East. But hn the North East, 160 thousand potnds | :34:26. | :34:33. | |
worth said to be treated in the region. The regional growth front | :34:34. | :34:39. | |
has not delivered what it should be in the past. So we should not really | :34:40. | :34:46. | |
be too grateful. There is a belief that the partnerships are wdak, | :34:47. | :34:48. | |
there are two of them in thd North East. Surely it needs to get a shade | :34:49. | :34:56. | |
of the money which represents the needs. The greatest problem has been | :34:57. | :35:01. | |
ourselves, the lack of unitx we have seen in recent months betwedn the | :35:02. | :35:08. | |
local authorities in the region it means we are Colin for one region, | :35:09. | :35:18. | |
so that we get the money to deliver it to the various parts of ht. but | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
instead all we have been getting squabbles. The combined authority | :35:23. | :35:32. | |
has been delayed. There havd been too many rows and divisions. We were | :35:33. | :35:39. | |
way behind the rest of the country because of disagreements in the | :35:40. | :35:43. | |
region when they were being established. If you see what is | :35:44. | :35:48. | |
happening in the North West and the likes of Leeds, other parts of the | :35:49. | :35:52. | |
country, they were up and rtnning straightaway. It is easy for someone | :35:53. | :36:02. | |
from the Liberal Democrats to see it as Labour who are squabbling, but we | :36:03. | :36:06. | |
have seven authorities combhne. We have to understand each of them | :36:07. | :36:12. | |
They are elected to ensure that they do the best for their community It | :36:13. | :36:19. | |
is not squabbling. It is individual authorities insisting that, before | :36:20. | :36:22. | |
the deal was done, everybodx should be looked on as equal in thd | :36:23. | :36:27. | |
combined authority. And that is very important if it is to succedd. A | :36:28. | :36:34. | |
group of Labour MPs are calling for a Hillsborough style enquirx into | :36:35. | :36:42. | |
police tactics during the mhners' strike in 1984. Most miners arrested | :36:43. | :36:45. | |
were charged with main order offences. But it left them `nd | :36:46. | :36:53. | |
sometimes there are waves whth a criminal record. Peter Beard has | :36:54. | :37:00. | |
joined those who see a enquhry is necessary. 30 years ago, thdse were | :37:01. | :37:07. | |
battle grounds. The County Durham 's wife was standing in speaking | :37:08. | :37:15. | |
alongside Arthur Scargill. We have a government pursuing violent policies | :37:16. | :37:20. | |
against the people. A few wdeks later, she was arrested by police on | :37:21. | :37:24. | |
a picket line in a local village. She was accused of threatenhng | :37:25. | :37:31. | |
behaviour. One of them punched me and pushed me into the van. When we | :37:32. | :37:37. | |
got to the police station, ht was the same attitude. I sat thdre in | :37:38. | :37:45. | |
the cold and I could not believe the lies that were coming from, the | :37:46. | :37:51. | |
police officers. She receivdd a conditional discharge for a claim | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
she said she did not commit, but says there should be an enqtiry into | :37:56. | :38:01. | |
why the innocent were found guilty. Every arm of the state was tsed | :38:02. | :38:06. | |
against the main orders, thd families and their communithes. The | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
abuse of state power was terrible. Web is not just me. People got | :38:11. | :38:21. | |
landed with convictions, and it was like living in a police state. | :38:22. | :38:28. | |
Within a year of Florence 's arrest, that it was closed. It is p`rkland | :38:29. | :38:32. | |
and many of the main asked them what here have gone to the graves. But | :38:33. | :38:37. | |
for the communities, there hs unfinished business about the | :38:38. | :38:41. | |
straight and questions needhng answers. The local MP was convicted | :38:42. | :38:46. | |
of two public order offences during the period. He thinks many liners | :38:47. | :38:52. | |
received rough justice. While the police had to do was invent a story | :38:53. | :38:56. | |
for the majesty and the maghstrate would believe them. If the | :38:57. | :39:06. | |
magistrates are honest, thex will come out and admit that thex were | :39:07. | :39:09. | |
instructed to come down hard on the main honours. Today, the police and | :39:10. | :39:20. | |
claim Commissioner, via Beard, was then looking into police conduct. | :39:21. | :39:24. | |
She can understand why people are seeking justice. I can understand | :39:25. | :39:30. | |
why there are calls for an dnquiry into it. There are obviouslx people | :39:31. | :39:34. | |
who feel a deep sense of injustice from the period. They want to get a | :39:35. | :39:44. | |
proper answer as to why thex were treated that way. But one | :39:45. | :39:49. | |
conservative who was an MP then says there should not be an enquhry. If | :39:50. | :39:55. | |
you look back to the year, the most significant event was the arrival of | :39:56. | :40:08. | |
Nissan in Sunderland. It wotld be wrong to launch an enquiry hnto | :40:09. | :40:14. | |
this, as opposed to other shtuations such as Hillsborough and bloody | :40:15. | :40:18. | |
Sunday, whether we are obviously good reasons for an enquiry. I think | :40:19. | :40:25. | |
it is best to leave this ye`r. Could this be therapeutic for the North | :40:26. | :40:30. | |
East? 30 years on, there ard still wins that will not heal unldss | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
properly investigated. This was not Hillsborough. There was not what of | :40:36. | :40:40. | |
life loss of life. Why spend millions of us. Let us move on. This | :40:41. | :40:47. | |
was not like Hillsborough. Have the actions of the police and it really | :40:48. | :40:53. | |
operated during the strike from the picket line, the really maghstrates | :40:54. | :41:01. | |
operated during the main straight, the way the politicians operate it | :41:02. | :41:06. | |
was an absolute disgrace. Qtestions need to be asked about thesd | :41:07. | :41:12. | |
operations by the police on the picket lines. If that had h`ppened | :41:13. | :41:21. | |
at the time, we seek striking similarities between that and | :41:22. | :41:25. | |
Hillsborough. They were tot`lly out of control, the told lies in court, | :41:26. | :41:33. | |
falsified documents. If these questions had been asked back then, | :41:34. | :41:38. | |
Hillsborough, could it have been avoided? That is conjecture. But | :41:39. | :41:46. | |
here we may not have broke the law. Surely you must see that. When you | :41:47. | :41:54. | |
say that Mrs Thatcher and sdnior ministers showing that the lain | :41:55. | :42:02. | |
honours were right. But there was a likes of concrete blocks getting | :42:03. | :42:11. | |
blocked from the motorway. The government denied that they cannot | :42:12. | :42:16. | |
with a plan to make the main is redundant. The misled of liberty. | :42:17. | :42:21. | |
The told lies deliberately. There was a conspiracy against thd main | :42:22. | :42:29. | |
honours. Why did they contelplate bringing the armed forces against | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
ordinary, hard`working men `nd women. That is why there should be | :42:34. | :42:39. | |
an enquiry. It was a conspiracy You are the MP in Stockton at the time. | :42:40. | :42:46. | |
Is an enquiry worth having? I can see no point in dredging up what | :42:47. | :42:52. | |
happened 30 years ago. This was a tragic event for many peopld. I | :42:53. | :42:59. | |
sympathise with some of those in the North East, but Arthur Scargill B is | :43:00. | :43:04. | |
a heavy responsibility for what he did. He split the main stond the | :43:05. | :43:10. | |
middle, caused great decepthon in mining community. You could say that | :43:11. | :43:13. | |
he led a conspiracy against the government. What is the point of | :43:14. | :43:19. | |
pursuing that now. Like the one argument to you. If it is rhght that | :43:20. | :43:26. | |
the court, the police were tsed as political tools by the government, | :43:27. | :43:31. | |
that could happen again. Should we not get to the truth of whether that | :43:32. | :43:36. | |
was the case? I do not belidve magistrate should be told what | :43:37. | :43:40. | |
decisions to take in court by the government. I do not believd that | :43:41. | :43:45. | |
happens. I do not believe it did happen. I do not think therd is any | :43:46. | :43:49. | |
point going back over it all again. There is no value to the region in | :43:50. | :43:55. | |
doing that. We need to be looking ahead and start looking | :43:56. | :44:02. | |
nostalgically to the past. Of course we want to look forward. I want to | :44:03. | :44:05. | |
look forward to the people who were fighting for their communithes at | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
the team, the economic prosperity of the communities, they were pushed | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
back by the state and we should be looking for an enquiry and getting | :44:16. | :44:25. | |
an amnesty for people who h`d the criminal records given to them | :44:26. | :44:31. | |
wrongly. Though, if you likd sightseeing, it will not be long | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
before you come across a pl`ce run by English Heritage. In the region, | :44:36. | :44:42. | |
there are some 400 houses and gardens, but current plans by | :44:43. | :44:45. | |
English Heritage to letting them? Northumberland, even on a grey day, | :44:46. | :45:02. | |
the enthusiasm of visitors hs not dimmed. The gardens are beattiful | :45:03. | :45:06. | |
and the itself, it is amazing how much is still standing. He could see | :45:07. | :45:12. | |
that someone was looking after this place really well. It is am`zing to | :45:13. | :45:17. | |
think of all the things that have been built in the past. It has a | :45:18. | :45:23. | |
lovely garden which changes throughout the year. His sttdy never | :45:24. | :45:29. | |
stands still and there are big changes in plan for English | :45:30. | :45:36. | |
Heritage. The currently an `rm of government will be split into. One | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
half will take on responsibhlity for the National Heritage collection, | :45:42. | :45:46. | |
the buildings in historic shtes This will mean government ftnding | :45:47. | :45:52. | |
being phased out by 2023. Btt the charity will receive ?80 million as | :45:53. | :45:59. | |
a one`off cash injection to ease the transition to charitable st`tus We | :46:00. | :46:03. | |
can address the conservation defects that desperately need addressing as | :46:04. | :46:06. | |
well as investing in the properties in the way we cannot do at the | :46:07. | :46:11. | |
moment. We will be able to fund raise from away. Source. `` away. | :46:12. | :46:18. | |
Source. This was run by English Herhtage, | :46:19. | :46:30. | |
but there is no cafe, no visitor centre in no way to charge people | :46:31. | :46:36. | |
coming to visit. So how would the new charity generate income from a | :46:37. | :46:42. | |
place like this? A beautiful ruin any remote spot. We will look after | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
all the properties in our c`re. The larger properties, which get the | :46:48. | :46:56. | |
likes of 60,000 visitors a xear they will generate income from the | :46:57. | :47:01. | |
likes of entry fees and catdring. Even with this cross subsidx, | :47:02. | :47:05. | |
critics question whether English Heritage will become be abld to | :47:06. | :47:10. | |
raise enough money when it becomes a charity. The likes of a fird or | :47:11. | :47:17. | |
flood or C an outbreak of foot and mouth disease and you find that the | :47:18. | :47:21. | |
visitors drop, all targets `re missed and there is a huge | :47:22. | :47:29. | |
shortfall. The government argues the plans are built on strong | :47:30. | :47:34. | |
foundations. There is no qudstion that the two new bodies being | :47:35. | :47:41. | |
created, historic England, the regulator of their heritage, and | :47:42. | :47:45. | |
English Heritage, which will run and manage the properties on behalf of | :47:46. | :47:49. | |
the nation, will still have exactly the same powers as they havd now. As | :47:50. | :47:55. | |
the peer into the future, stpporters of the plan say it is a way of | :47:56. | :48:01. | |
ensuring iconic monuments and buildings are preserved for the | :48:02. | :48:04. | |
future. Critics worry about what lies ahead. There is a dangdr that | :48:05. | :48:13. | |
our heritage could be damagdd. Is this a gamble? I think it is a | :48:14. | :48:18. | |
gamble, but change is always time to give rise to anxiety. But if you | :48:19. | :48:22. | |
look at the track record in the region and the rest of the country | :48:23. | :48:30. | |
of the likes of the National trust. We do not get government money. | :48:31. | :48:35. | |
English Heritage has been gdtting 20 million, been given an 80 mhllion to | :48:36. | :48:39. | |
launch this in a new way. If you look at what is happening in Bishop | :48:40. | :48:43. | |
Auckland, with philanthropy money coming in. It is standard to a | :48:44. | :48:53. | |
massive visitor attraction. It can be done. Of course it will give rise | :48:54. | :48:58. | |
to anxiety and ratio that. H hope it works, and there is no reason it | :48:59. | :49:03. | |
should not. Is this a sensible way of taking the government out of the | :49:04. | :49:10. | |
equation? English Heritage hs a very important organisation to the | :49:11. | :49:15. | |
region. Tourism is so important to the North East. If you look at the | :49:16. | :49:22. | |
likes of Northumberland, English Heritage plays a huge role there. We | :49:23. | :49:30. | |
have that because English Hdritage runs its all well and anythhng which | :49:31. | :49:33. | |
police are in jeopardy, I would worry about. Carlisle is a regular | :49:34. | :49:45. | |
visit for top politicians. The Prime Minister was he recently. Hdre is | :49:46. | :49:48. | |
the rest of the week 's news. Readers of Northumberland councils | :49:49. | :50:07. | |
make their counterparts frol across the border in Scotland, to look at | :50:08. | :50:11. | |
improving transport links. Harriet Harman was in the region to visit | :50:12. | :50:22. | |
the new centre. There has also been questions about the West Culberland | :50:23. | :50:28. | |
Hospital. Six years after the rebuilding programme, the hospital | :50:29. | :50:33. | |
has been plunged into crisis. We nearest hospital is not down the | :50:34. | :50:38. | |
road, it is 42 may also be `n Carlisle, and it too is strtggling. | :50:39. | :50:43. | |
Can he please do everything to assist me and make local colmunity | :50:44. | :50:47. | |
to retain services in the Wdst Cumberland Hospital. Finallx, | :50:48. | :51:01. | |
that is about it from us. Wd are back much later next week, `t half | :51:02. | :51:07. | |
past two in the afternoon. Dobson. Tim Donovan is back in the | :51:08. | :51:10. | |
chair next week. And with that, back to Andrew. Welcome back and time now | :51:11. | :51:24. | |
to get more from our panel. So they can justify their meagre patents. | :51:25. | :51:31. | |
This cost of living mantra will last all the way until the election. | :51:32. | :51:36. | |
Cannot? Ed Miliband leaves he is onto something and for most of this | :51:37. | :51:39. | |
Parliament, inflation has outstripped wages. That is going to | :51:40. | :51:45. | |
go the other way and wages will rise, to which you say Ed Miliband | :51:46. | :51:51. | |
has nothing to say. He says if you think people are going to feel | :51:52. | :51:55. | |
better in the blink of an eye, you are a Conservative and do not | :51:56. | :51:58. | |
understand the depth of this and he is taking the message from a | :51:59. | :52:02. | |
presidential election in America in 2012 and make Romney was ahead on | :52:03. | :52:08. | |
some of the economic indicators but Barack Obama was ahead on the key | :52:09. | :52:12. | |
one, do you believe this candidate will make your family's life | :52:13. | :52:16. | |
better? The message that Ed Miliband will try to say is the next election | :52:17. | :52:23. | |
is about whose side are you on? And he believes Labour will be on the | :52:24. | :52:25. | |
side of more voters than conservatives. It would be crazy for | :52:26. | :52:30. | |
Labour not to talk about the cost of living because even if wages exceed | :52:31. | :52:36. | |
inflation next year, it is not as if voters will walk around feeling like | :52:37. | :52:39. | |
Imelda Marcos, they will still feel as if they were struggling and not | :52:40. | :52:45. | |
just compared... Retail sales are slowing? That is not the sign of | :52:46. | :52:52. | |
palpable disparity. Circumstances are better than three years ago but | :52:53. | :52:58. | |
not better than five years ago. The Reagan question will still be | :52:59. | :53:02. | |
employed, are you better off than at the last election? But things in | :53:03. | :53:08. | |
America were actually getting worse when he asked that. I covered that | :53:09. | :53:13. | |
election, that is why it resonated and they did get worse. The | :53:14. | :53:17. | |
Ayatollah had quadrupled the price of oil. This is based on things | :53:18. | :53:23. | |
getting relatively better, after a very long wait, so the cost of | :53:24. | :53:29. | |
living critique will have to adapt? It will but it gets out of a very | :53:30. | :53:35. | |
sticky spot and the IFS says wages will not outstrip inflation and by | :53:36. | :53:39. | |
that time they can start talking about other things, plans for the | :53:40. | :53:43. | |
railways and tuition fees and at the moment, everything is up for grabs. | :53:44. | :53:47. | |
Labour know that every time they talk about something they want to | :53:48. | :53:51. | |
do, the question is, how do you pay for it? They can talk about the | :53:52. | :53:55. | |
economy and they don't have substantial things to say. Is it | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
true that Mr Iain Duncan Smith was going to make a major announcement | :54:00. | :54:05. | |
on benefit cheats? Or something to do with that this morning? But he | :54:06. | :54:10. | |
decided against it because of the tobacco over Maria Miller? It would | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
be very odd to go on to The Andrew Marr Show to have a chat and see | :54:15. | :54:19. | |
what he is having for lunch. Patrick went from the Guardian said he was | :54:20. | :54:22. | |
going to set out higher financial penalty phase for providing | :54:23. | :54:27. | |
inaccurate information in claims. This is a bad day to do that, given | :54:28. | :54:33. | |
that MP expenses are treated far more lenient the than any one from | :54:34. | :54:39. | |
Joe public. That would be fascinating, if true. And he is | :54:40. | :54:44. | |
making a very big speech on well for tomorrow and this tweet from Patrick | :54:45. | :54:49. | |
went at the Guardian, he has proper sized on welfare matters and he | :54:50. | :54:53. | |
tends to know what is going on. But it would be deeply unfortunate if | :54:54. | :54:58. | |
that was the message today. How can he make a speech that has anything | :54:59. | :55:01. | |
about cracking down on benefit claimants? Not today but I am not | :55:02. | :55:07. | |
sure tomorrow. Do you get the impression that nobody in both main | :55:08. | :55:14. | |
parties is very confident of winning in 2015? I column last week said the | :55:15. | :55:18. | |
result, the most likely result from one year on is another hung | :55:19. | :55:23. | |
parliament and which government results from that depends on the | :55:24. | :55:28. | |
mathematical specifics of whether the Tories can do a deal as well as | :55:29. | :55:32. | |
Labour, leaving everything in the hands of Nick Clegg or whether one | :55:33. | :55:36. | |
party can do a straightforward deal but I do not detect any sense of | :55:37. | :55:40. | |
exuberance or confidence in either camp. And the Tories are still | :55:41. | :55:46. | |
shooting themselves over losing the boundary commission reforms because | :55:47. | :55:49. | |
that was going to net them 20 seats and they lost that because they | :55:50. | :55:53. | |
messed up the House of Lords reform and there are still furious with | :55:54. | :55:57. | |
themselves. The former US President, George W Bush, has been a busy boy | :55:58. | :56:00. | |
and here at the Sunday Politics we thought you'd like to see the | :56:01. | :56:04. | |
results of his artistic endeavours. Time for the gallery. | :56:05. | :56:08. | |
I was a prize to find myself saying, some of these are not bad! -- | :56:09. | :56:57. | |
surprised. Vladimir Putin? I like the one of Tony Blair but his early | :56:58. | :57:04. | |
ones of dogs, to be in the presence of the master is to see his portrait | :57:05. | :57:09. | |
of a Joanne Love. He is not of the Turner prize but I was surprised. He | :57:10. | :57:14. | |
gets the mask of Vladimir Putin also Tony Blair. I was impressed | :57:15. | :57:20. | |
that he did not allow personal or political grudges to influence his | :57:21. | :57:24. | |
artwork. Jacques Chirac, he comes out of this incredibly well! And | :57:25. | :57:29. | |
Angela Merkel comes out astonishingly well. Quite generous | :57:30. | :57:36. | |
as well. Tony Blair is the best one and the reason is he had the closest | :57:37. | :57:40. | |
relationship with them and he has talked about this portrait, saying | :57:41. | :57:44. | |
he was quite fond of him and you can see that. These are awful, they | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
would not get you an A-level but you must admire him to have the guts to | :57:50. | :57:56. | |
do this, and display them publicly! An A-level? Just doing joined up | :57:57. | :58:02. | |
numbers gets you that these days! What do you do when you retire? This | :58:03. | :58:07. | |
is less embarrassing than some of the other things people have done. | :58:08. | :58:11. | |
As good as Churchill? I don't know... No! Churchill was brilliant! | :58:12. | :58:19. | |
And on that! That's all for today. Tune into BBC Two every day at | :58:20. | :58:23. | |
lunchtime this week for the Daily Politics. And we'll be back at the | :58:24. | :58:26. | |
later time of 2:30pm next Sunday after the London Marathon. Remember, | :58:27. | :58:29. | |
if it's Sunday, it's the Sunday Politics. | :58:30. | :58:36. |