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agreed by Dublin, I'll be asking sale of its Northern portfolio

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that inquiry should be

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There are calls for more leadership plans are.

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is used to appoint

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my guests are Professor Peter throughout,

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Sinn Fein says it needs to be on are still to be agreed.

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Mary Lou McDonald,

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Welcome to you, thanks very much from our Dublin studio.

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the details still that an inquiry is indeed happening,

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to be completely happy for your party

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and the Labour Party

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investigation to happen into Nama,

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Project Eagle,

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the Northern loan portfolio.

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but to concede an investigation literally no other option

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that has adequate scope, that has an investigation

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perhaps,

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approach, that the inquiry or

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that that's under consideration.

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north, they were in Britain

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Sometimes this story has been very, very thorough investigation.

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were in the north,

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an awful lot of that bare.

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Nama was created by a creature of the Dublin government.

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so the decision-making and the... by subsequent government

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at the heart of this, haven't you?

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what did or did not happen here

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you like it or not,

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cannot compel witnesses

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There are two jurisdictions here, in that inquiry.

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two jurisdictions,

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that out,

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accountable -

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cannot compel them

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fundamental problem you've got.

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monies that were lost are Yeah, just to finish my last point,

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partition creates a problem for us.

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for our part within Sinn Fein,

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joint First Minister,

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to be all-Ireland.

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at any level or in any capacity

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to support and to participate in absolutely enthusiastic

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But let's put it this way -

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who are asked to cooperate

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well, I suppose at a minimum

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draw conclusions from that.

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if we are all agreed,

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specifically in relation that we have a problem,

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and I hope we are -

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we have seen revealed through

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but anybody who believes in good not just to the taxpayer,

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that we need to get to

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telling me how you're going

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that we all think need to be answers to these questions

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I mean, there's not Dublin to answer those questions?

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all-Ireland investigation work.

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you in the first instance is that

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to us here in Dublin,

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an investigation,

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of the key players

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or have Dublin-based entities actually Dublin-based,

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you're quite right to point out,

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have a question to answer

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established by the Taoiseach, so, or away from an investigation

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when she says the primary concern Minister's got it right

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in this jurisdiction

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of what did or did not happen we will have a clearer view

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such an inquiry might actually by whomsoever wants to conduct

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get involved.

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that Arlene Foster

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Of course there are criminal that description of events.

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that would arise from them.

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and simply wait for all of that that we sit on our hands

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inquiries and investigations

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are being pursued

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It's not impossible at all for us enforcement authorities.

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with an investigation in Dublin,

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have led from the front.

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Let me cite also Mairtin O' Martin McGuinness.

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Michael Noonan and has made it

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department will cooperate fully.

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all of us... OK.

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cooperation on a voluntary basis,

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OK. I want to ask you issue around compellability.

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where there was a lot Fein's two-day think-in last week

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timescale for standing down

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and under what circumstances he knows exactly when

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Gerry has... remains the leader.

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No, no. We have a plan,

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Mark, for us as a national party

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It's about building our capacities and delivering as we are.

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No, but he was talking about having here also. Crucially...

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When is he going to go?

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ending partition and Irish unity.

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a statement, I think,

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He will not be the leader will not go on forever.

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Yeah, he talked about liking the in transition and as and when...

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And you see when we make that we support him.

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it's interesting to speculate. it... Good. ..but, you know,

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Thank you. ..Dublin there,

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Mary Lou McDonald.

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Patricia, first of all, Pete Shirlow and Patricia MacBride.

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There is a fundamental difficulty on compellability.

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on this island.

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in a formal inquiry

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But the reality of operations everyone concedes is a difficulty.

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are cooperating on matters like

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fuel laundering.

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There's no reason why in terms of investigations.

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cooperate on criminal matters

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if that exists.

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if you look at things like

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Location of Victims' Remains,

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inquiry into the Project Eagle sale.

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What about political cooperation, working cooperatively cross-border.

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which aren't being different issues here

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a cross-border commitment

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public committees, etc.

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First of all,

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no crime has yet been proven.

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maybe that has been important, which is trial by media,

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actually here is

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You can't prosecute somebody for which have different laws.

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are the legislations

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That's the issue. It's not... in both parts of the island. OK.

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particular political party,

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and hear lots more from you a OK, we'll come back to both of you

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a special legal procedure to Deputy First Ministers used

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With me now is the Green BBC journalist David Gordon.

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what are they? I think it's a reservations about this appointment,

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the Assembly in this appointment,

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So it's been made in a vacuum Commissioner of Public Appointments.

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a statement in which it says The Executive Office has issued

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across Europe and America in Dublin, in London,

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and asked him to do the job. on the shoulder

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Why are we not having a about Nama.

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We've seen recently just in the a north-south inquiry.

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and we've all had an from the Executive Office

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I mean, this is the be summed up in one sentence.

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I think the fuss is about What's the fuss about?

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and I think if you even look at who use of public money

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journalist, he's a digger.

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against effective challenge.

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they can bring him into the tent, they can employ David Gordon,

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is that you're all frit

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you're terrified now because

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I think it's the opposite. Arlene to be working for the executive.

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she's challenged, she loses her rag,

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OK, let's just bring in Arlene.

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Well, there's an element here, there and everywhere else."

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"Well, why would it not be all right have to sort of think,

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because all it does is sift out to do that

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I think that the problem with to make this appointment?

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there you go, the best person for the job,

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which is, or a George Orwell book,

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That's one of the most unmannerly, of North Korea.

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It made accusations about people.

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"you did things like this whenever in charge, you're not in charge,

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The document should've been coming out of transition needs.

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That was what was issued statement, I think.

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a lot of points to pick up on here.

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"is a political decision, of David Gordon

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Yeah. And this is something that Get over yourselves.

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As a paediatric pathologist

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says it will investigate

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A DUP MLA reveals Northern Ireland property portfolio.

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is likely to be up at Stormont it says about what the mood

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to not just simply be an opposition for the opposition

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responding to a government a politics which is about

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Join me for Stormont Today, that's for this week.

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