24/06/2012 Sunday Politics Scotland


24/06/2012

Andrew Neil and Isabel Fraser with political news, including an interview with Danny Alexander. George Galloway and Bob Stewart go head-to-head on the future of the Falklands.


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Welcome to the Sunday Politics. He's one of the four men who make

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all the big decisions in the coalition. The others you know well.

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David Cameron, Nick Clegg, George Osborne. Today, as the British

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economy struggles to escape the recession, and the eurozone stares

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into the abyss, we talk to the fourth man, Chief Secretary to the

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Treasury Danny Alexander, about the economy, tax and the coalition.

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David Cameron and his Argentine counterpart went head to head over

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the Falklands this week. Respect MP George Galloway and Defence

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Committee Tory MP Colonel Bob Stewart go to battle over the same

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issue. And on Sunday politics Scotland,

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the original Act of Union might be a fragile document, but tomorrow

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the campaign begins to keep the political union strong. The slogan

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is better to get and they promise the best of both worlds. We hear

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1782 seconds

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from the backers, the tractors and The Tories were ready to share

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sovereignty. Look back, I might not have been in Parliament that long

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but the Government were ready to share sovereignty at that time, the

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Tory and Labour governments. Falkland Islands have cost Britain

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a lot of money. It has cost the lives. Why would you give it up now

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when it seems there would be all to be had? Because he would have to

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give it up in total later. Latin America, it is 100% behind us.

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are not. Even the Spanish have turned against Argentina.

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Spanish are a long way away. The Brazilians, the Argentinians, the

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growing power of Venezuela, these countries that are rich. We should

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have good relations with them. We should have good relations, share

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the oil and gas in the Falkland Islands and save money and not have

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to send an aircraft carrier and is more men. We do not have one to

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send. He is saying Latin America is so full of emerging economies and

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we have good relations with Latin America and we just don't talk to

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Argentina. We have got good relations with Latin America. They

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exist. Argentina is not all that popular in Latin America. I

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slightly disagree with you, George. I totally disagree. I quite like

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disagreeing with you. Get to the point. The South Americans are not

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just as George has presented. Some of them are on side on this matter.

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Name names. Brazil is not as bad as you say. Brazil is 100% behind the

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claim of Argentina. If you look at the speech of the Brazilian

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ambassador at the United Nations. Brazil is somebody we should be

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friends with. This is politics. We are not having a battle. We want

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Argentina to back off. That is what we require. Argentina is in real

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economic trouble. This is sabre- rattling, they do not have the

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military means. I do not think you are in trouble because you take

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your oil resources back from the Spanish. The Argentines are within

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their right to take that the oil company. Argentina, its flag is

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flying ever higher because of this issue. They cannot resist the call

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for the Liberation, as they put it, from European colonial rule.

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the Argentinians to take over islands when everybody wants to

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stay away from Argentina, that is can only ionisation. We have to end

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it there. It was a spirited debate Good afternoon. Welcome to Sunday

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Politics Scotland. Coming up on the programme:

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The old Articles of Union might be showing their age, but unionists

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say they are still relevant. Tomorrow sees the launch of their

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campaign to keep Scotland in the UK. Scottish Secretary Michael Moore is

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here to predict how the Better Together campaign will go. And the

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SNP's Stewart Hosie will be giving us his assessment.

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We have a special investigation into the cash-for-gold business.

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There are calls for a new code of conduct in Scotland.

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And at the end of the school year, does the latest craze for American

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style-proms put more pressure on kids, or is it just harmless fun?

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In the debate over the referendum on Scottish independence, the yes

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campaign has already begun. Tomorrow the other campaign is

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launched, the one that says yes to stay in the union offering,

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supporters say, the best of both worlds. The slogan is Better

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Together. Can the campaign cast itself as more than just a no to

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independence? And how united is this pro-Union alliance of Labour,

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Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats?

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This is what we are talking about, the treaty of Union between

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Scotland and England. You can see the articles of union. The first at

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the bottom of the page say the two kingdoms of Scotland and England

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shall be united into one Kingdom by the name of Great Britain. Rarities

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in black and white. If we turn the pages that are over 300 years old,

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we have to be careful, you can see the signatories to the treaty. On

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the Scottish side on the left we have names such as Queensberry and

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the Joint Secretaries of State. On the right, we have Lord Godolphin,

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the Lord High Treasurer. More than 300 years later the debate on

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whether to maintain that Union is well under way. Tomorrow, the

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campaign supporting the union will be officially launched. The Future

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of Scotland will be challenging to make a positive case. Within the

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United Kingdom, Scotland enjoys benefits. We have the arenas of

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international inference, international affairs, and we have

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in domestic parliament here are good control up over our own

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domestic to vault issues. That seems to me the best of both worlds.

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How United what the pro-union campaign the? When the parties seem

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to agree on hardly anything else. You would be may be surprised about

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how United this campaign is. We put aside differences, we do not forget

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them, we put them aside to ensure we get the benefits of the United

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Kingdom put forward in the campaign. If the Scots vote no, what then? At

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Stirling Castle on Friday, the Welsh First Minister told us that

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the UK Government had to come up with an offer on further devolution

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sooner rather than later. It needs to be made before the referendum.

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It is not good enough to say there would be discussions after. The

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people of Scotland need to see what alternatives there might be on the

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table before the referendum takes place. Labour's deputy leader in

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Scotland said that is a question for after the referendum. We are

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open to that debate but it is a separate argument. We ask is

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Scottish people to make the biggest decision in 300 years. It is

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devolution again separation. opinion polls seem to be on the

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pro-union side. The campaign knows it has a long way to go to persuade

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Scottish people not tear up the Union. The Scottish Secretary joins

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us from the Edinburgh studio. How do you launch this? Do you imagine

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you can set a positive vision, given that there are such disparate

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views of what the constitutional settlement should be, even within

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the individual parties taking part? The central issue we are being

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asked to resolve is the future of Scotland's place in the UK. We are

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fundamentally stronger together and would be weaker apart. Your

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commentators in the last piece made some of the arguments about

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opportunities we have as we are part of a bigger United Kingdom

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economy. The strength of being part of that to avoid some of the risks

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we see for smaller countries elsewhere in Europe. We have a huge

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amount of clout for Scotland being part of the UK's internationally.

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Whether it is NATO, the United Nations, that is important, also is

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important, we have devolution already to the Scottish Parliament

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and in the past few weeks we have delivered the latest date of that

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with new tax and borrowing powers. I think there is a positive case

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for Scotland to be part of the UK and I look forward to a strong

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debate about it. Opinion polls show us that the majority in Scotland

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would like a second question that addresses the powers that may be

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appropriate within a devolved settlement still within the United

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Kingdom. You are denying them back. As a federalist, that is a

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ludicrous position to take. The Liberal Democrats could have owned

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D Lomax. You could have moved into ground that is positive. --

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devolution max. The poll does not share a demand for a second

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question, it shows an appetite for a wider debate. The debate is under

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way. As a Liberal Democrat I am committed for home rule for

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Scotland and a loosening of ties within the United Kingdom while

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preserving the United Kingdom. In Scotland, we can have that debate

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and has a party we are under way with that. Looking at tax, welfare

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and other issues. Others need to be part of that. It is not for me to

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tell Scotland what they should think, it is for everybody, the

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voluntary sector and others, to be part of the debate. In order to

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have the debate and reach an assessment of what they think is an

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appropriate way forward, people need the facts. At what point will

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they know what extra powers for example the Liberal Democrats are

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proposing? Is it in time for the general election? At what point

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does clarity coming to the debate? Can I make an important distinction.

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We have yes N P who have campaigned to have a vote on Scotland's place

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in the UK -- SNP. They have won a majority and we as a UK government

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do not agree with their view for Scotland but we want to work with

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the Scottish government to deliver a vote on that issue, which SNP

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activists have campaigned for. Let's have the referendum.

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Independence is separate to devolution. We do not need to muddy

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the waters by having two questions on the same ballot paper. We

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continue to have the debate and we as a party was set out our ideas

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for the future of devolution in the months ahead. A are you concerned

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that if it is a no to independence in 2014, the political leverage is

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does have painted when you go into subsequent talks with Westminster -

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- is dissipated. There is no political leverage left at

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Westminster for the argument. fundamentally disagree. We look at

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these stages of devolution we have had. We created the Scottish

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Parliament in the Nineties because we had a huge debate over many

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years among the parties and crucially involving people who are

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not politicians, the voluntary sector, business, and we'd got

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consensus. The political parties delivered the Parliament after 1997.

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Just recently we have delivered the Scotland Act with more financial

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powers, based on parties coming together, agreeing a proposition

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and delivering it. I believe that is sensible. There is a threat,

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when you remove that why would they give anything? We have had a lively

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debate about independence or devolution. All the other parties

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apart from the SNP have been happy to be part of the debate about more

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powers for Scotland. We are saying they have raised the issue of

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independence and won majority in the Scottish Parliament, let's

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resolve the issue. We will set out our stall and we want to see what

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other folk think and then we will deliver it. Let me ask you about a

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quote from the Liberal Democrat leader today. He said Scotland

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would be thrown into legal limbo without a straight referendum

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choice on independence or the status quo. He said it would end up

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in the courts. He said he does not want the future of the country to

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be decided by the courts rather than voters at the ballot box. The

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answer to that is simple, this is not a legal question, this is a

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political question. You can give them the legal coverage, they can

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have any number of questions, in not allowing that you have made a

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political choice, not a legal choice. I reject that. We need to

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have a clear question about what Scotland's future is. Is it staying

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as part of the UK or becoming a separate country, will it be

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independent in the world? That is a central and simple proposition. I

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passionately want Scotland to stay part of the UK. We can sort out the

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legality of the Scottish Parliament's ability to hold a

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referendum by working with the Scottish government. We are well

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under way with that. The separate issue is that if you put two

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questions on the paper and get a majority in favour of independence,

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and a bigger majority in favour of more powers, we will have a

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democratic out raged that the bigger result has been ignored

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because the SNP says that will make as independent. I can see arguments

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about that and people going to court to interpret the outcome. He

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is right to say that would be a farce. It is a simple and

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straightforward proposition to resolve that. Then we can work

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through the remaining issues. Joining me now is a Stewart Hosie

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from our Dundee studio. What did you make of that final point? Why

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have you got to with the talks in terms of the legalities?

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Scottish Government will have a mandate to hold this referendum and

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if the UK Government wanted to clarify any legal concerns they

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have, they could make a section 30 transfer. That is in their hands

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and we hope they do that. We have no doubt that holding a referendum

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in Scotland will be legal. If we look at the direction of travel

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that the SNP seem to be on, you keep modifying what the concept of

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independent means, you will keep the monarchy, you say you may stay

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in NATO. Are you confident you are taking the party with you on this?

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Yes, absolutely. We are talking about us having the best of both

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worlds. A normal independent Scotland and a union with our

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neighbours, using those things would makes sense to use it. The

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head of state, the Stirling currency, it makes sense for

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everybody but we take all the other political decisions which matter

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and that really chimes with the social attitudes and with the

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recent opinion poll which shows the majority of people wanted the

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Scottish Parliament to take the majority of decisions over most

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things. Let me clarify something here. You make these assertions and

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say that we will keep Stirling, that we will get rid of Trident and

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that you may firmly believe that that is a strong possibility. The

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fact of the matter is that you cannot guarantee that. These are

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negotiating positions. In a sense, no government ever or party can

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hold a future government to lock them down, of course that is right.

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When you come to the referendum and 2014, the Scottish people on the

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basis of a public prospectus -- published prospectus will determine

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the situation of this could -- the Scottish state. I am giving you my

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position. Every look at the second question and yet again in opinion

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polls, this has come up again, the majority of people would like the

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option of a second question, more devolved powers within the Union.

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Given the direction of travel and how some of the stand-alone SNP

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policies have been diluted in the past which we have spoken about, if

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you do put a second question on this referendum ballot paper, the

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SNP will lose, that is what the opinion polls are telling us.

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will be an independent question and we are campaigning to win that. We

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and many others outside the SNP what Scotland to be a normal,

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independent country and I am confident we will win that

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referendum and what we have said is it is right and proper to recognise

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a body of opinion which wants to go further with devolution than we

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currently have but not as far as independence and if that can

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coalesce around a detailed prospectus, then we are open to

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having VAT on the ballot paper. I think that shows a huge weakness in

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the no campaign as your interview with Michael Moore said. They need

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to determine what that is in advance of the opinion poll and we

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can test that against independence and the status quo. We have been

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open to this for some time, I am at a loss as to understand what the no

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campaign political parties who say they want further devolution are

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unable to agree on what that means. Also a body of opinion within the

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SNP who says it you put a second question on the referendum ballot

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he will have squandered the party's best chances in generations of

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getting a clear majority for independence. Are you willing to

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risk that? I don't think it is a risk and I don't agree with that

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assessment at all. I think the case for independence is unanswerable.

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An incredibly strong case that Scotland can stand on its own two

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feet, work with its neighbours, have the clout within the

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international community. And we are having a seat on the United Nations

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which we currently do not have. I think the case for independence

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trumps the case for further devolution that there are those who

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believe that there should be further devolution. Thank you for

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that. More specifics now on the poll

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which we mentioned earlier and this MORI poll commissioned by the

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Future of Scotland Campaign, 1,000 people were asked to name the

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issues and more than one if they wanted of most concern to them. The

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economy was named as a key concern for 51%, followed by unemployment

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which mattered most for 21%. Education was most important for

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21% and public spending cuts by 20%. Scottish independence was a key

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concern for 16%. The Scottish Council of Voluntary Organisations

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has a leading role in this Future of Scotland Campaign, and it's

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chief executive Martin Sime is here now. The shows the people of

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Scotland represented in this poll are quite a way ahead of the

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politicians in terms of understand it the issues and wanted to see an

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open discussion and debate about all the options for Scotland's

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governance rather than turning this into yes/ no Punch and Judy

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campaign. What do you think should be asked in the 2014 referendum?

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What more should be discussed. The Future of Scotland Campaign were

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taking the temperature of the public to see their views on a

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range of subjects. I think for example, a large majority of the

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people who responded wanted to see welfare powers transferred to the

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Scottish Parliament. I think that is an interesting and important

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agenda. We should be debating that now. Those of the real issues that

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people are concerned about rather than the campaigns that a week will

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see. It strikes me that spending lot of money on staff and public

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relations to argue yes/ no is not actually the kind of debate that

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people want. The politicians ought Do you think there should be a

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second question? What we are interested in at this stage is

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keeping all the options on the table and opening out the debate so

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that real people get a chance to contribute. How does that work in

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practice? What are the mechanisms? There's lot of initiatives going on

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to encourage people, not from the politicians interestingly. They

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will appear in the endless political shows doing this phoney

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war and we all know what happens when that happens. The casualty of

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that approach, we know that. Rather than turn this into a binary issue,

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we should discuss the issues that affect people and reflect the

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aspirations they have and in their lives and the kind of Parliament

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they would like to see and powers they would like to see if. We have

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to leave it there, thank you. With high gold prices and tough

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economic times, more people are cashing in on their jewellery. But

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a BBC Scotland investigation has found some people are getting a

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very raw deal. Scottish consumer groups are calling for a code of

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conduct like the oneself of the border. Good Morning Scotland's

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business presenter Waseem Zakir has been looking into the booming cash-

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for-gold industry. Gold, a safe haven during turbulent

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times and the commodity. It is in demand as never before. Its price

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has soared recently. More and more people are cashing in on their old

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gold. The number of poor because has doubled in the past few years

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and gold buying outlets have mushroomed. But there are real

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horror stories about and -- unscrupulous buyers. We are worried

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that people are offered evaluation and than they are offered much less.

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People accepting a much lower valuation or paying to get their

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gold back. To have managed to get hold of some gold for myself and

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there was to do some mystery shopping to see what sort of prices

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I will get. But first, I want to see how much it is actually worth.

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My little 18 carat charm ways to put 69 grams and according to

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today's prices, it is worth �59.60. When nine earrings way 3.76 grams

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# She's a gold digger. And son it I sampled a dozen gold buyers around

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Glasgow and the prices I got ranged from 50 to �90.

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This man's shop give me one of the better prices, �48 when it was

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valued at nearly 60. He agreed to explain what accounts for this

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difference. We stand to make a margin but it is to cover costs and

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we have to make a bit of profit, yes. But I think we are paying much

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more than most and our training scheme has to be paid for, our

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staff training, it is all time. The systems we set up in place and the

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advice we give to customers, we have to be rewarded and am afraid

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this is part of the way of doing it. It is all well and good taking your

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gold to a shop where you can't walk out if you're not happy with the

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price but what about the company's way you have to send your cold off?

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The poorest prices are received were from online and postal cash

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companies. One of them offered me a staggering �17 for my gold so just

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what regulation is there to prevent people getting ripped off? As far

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as am aware, there aren't. People can pick a price on the day or pick

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a price depending on that customer which is very unfair. There should

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be a published price on the day and the customers will understand they

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have got a margin and that is why you why in business but there

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should be a publish price so the guidelines are more clear to the

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customers. In England and Wales, a code of conduct was launched last

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week to try to self regulates the industry. It is something consumer

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bodies would like to see adopted in Scotland. We would welcome any

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regulation that makes sure that customers are protected in any

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dealings they are having for the cash-for-gold industry. The

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Scottish consumers may be worse off than English counterparts. But a

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voluntary code may not work. We are aware that what we need to do is

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give the voluntary code some time to be tested. That will see if it

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makes that improvement. There will be concerns that because it is a

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voluntary code, people who at the West End of practice are unlikely

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to abide by it and then we would have to look at whether or not the

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Government would introduced legislation to protect the public

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more carefully. As the bill winds of the global economy and

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increasing prosperity in India and China drive up demand for gold, one

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thing is for sure - the scrap gold buying business is here to stay for

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a while you it. And you can hear the documentary

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about selling old gold on BBC Radio Scotland this afternoon at 4:30

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four and also more on the BBC Scotland news website. Time for the

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news with Gillian Smart. Good afternoon. 143 will back of

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Scotland and NatWest bank branches have opened on a Sunday for the

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first time -- well because, after a computer glitch. The technical

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fault which has now been fixed let many people unable to use their

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accounts. A backlog was cleared. Well Bank of Scotland said updating

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customer accounts had taken longer than expected -- a Royal Bank of

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Scotland. But the services may not resume properly until tomorrow.

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Scottish shoppers may have to pay 5p for plastic bags and a so-called

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bag tax which could raise �5 million for charity. The Scottish

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Government is starting a three- month consultation on a range of

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proposals looking to cut waste and protect the environment. Proceeds

:59:28.:59:31.

of the bag tax would go to good causes after retailers have covered

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their costs. We are finally seeing things settle

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down after the wet and windy weather. Lot of Wendy weather but

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also more cloud over northern areas we outbreaks of rain but that will

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become more patchy through the day. Decent bulls of sunshine through

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central and southern Scotland. We could see sharp showers to what

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five and the east corner but it will feel pleasant in the sunshine.

:00:06.:00:16.
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-- to what five. Our next bulletin Think back to your last year at

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school and perhaps you had an end of term disco or a ceilidh? Well

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nowadays it's more likely to marked by an American-style prom -

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complete with limousines, fancy clothes and tiaras. And it's not

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just secondary schools who are glamming it up, primary schools are

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doing it too. So as prom season is upon us our reporter Hayley Jarvis

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asks if it's all just a bit of harmless fun?

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Nicole is preparing for her big night, the high-school prom. I have

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done my hair and make-up by has a new dress and shoes. Looking good

:01:00.:01:04.

does not come cheap. The willingness to splash out on prom

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night is proving to be big business. We first opened three years ago.

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got one or two. Last year, there was an increase. This year, we had

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about five in today and more at the weekend, it seems to be coming more

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:01:32.:01:33.

popular. Are you looking forward to it? It should be good. A glamorous

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look for a glitzy occasion. No disco in the school hall for these

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pupils, they have hired a hotel where they will have a three-course

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meal before dancing the night away. A high-school people look forward

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to it. It is the highlight of the year. A Until recently, the Prom

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:02:06.:02:09.

was an American event. It is as over-the-top as pupils would wanted

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to be. We would find out if anybody was not coming because of the cost

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and the school would help out in that case, without people knowing

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about it. It is nice to see the picture, because then you can

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visualise the kind of evening they had. Julie is researching the

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impact of the growing number of Proms in Scotland and found 92% of

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secondary schools had one last year. The inspectorate are into the pram

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because they think it gives leadership skills to the children

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and motivates them -- prom. In itself, I think it is a good thing.

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The ritual of moving from one state to another state, the biggest

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downside would be, I suppose, is where there is an excess in terms

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of consumption. It appears that those attending are getting younger,

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like these primary seven pupils. are using ceilidh music, but we are

:03:22.:03:31.
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dressing up. Lucky prom. It gives you a good feeling. -- like a prom.

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The fact that the children refer to it as a prom, it is the

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Americanisation of the dance and gradually that has become more of

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an important thing for the children and families. For the school, it is

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something we monitor carefully. If the balance was tipped, we would

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have to address it. What is wrong with primary school pupils getting

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some of the glamour of the prom? you do that at primary school, by

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secondary school, Euro-X -- your expectations are increasing. Maybe

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this then is increasing. This pupil and his friends wanted a limousine

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for their high school prom, it was the only one left. If they become

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increasingly lavish, how will pupils travel in a few years?

:04:35.:04:45.
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Perhaps a helicopter. One school has turned down a request for that.

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Just before we go, BBC Scotland is looking for audience members for

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Andrew Neil and Isabel Fraser with the latest political news, including an interview with the chief secretary to the treasury, Danny Alexander. Also in the programme, Respect MP, George Galloway and defence select committee member, Bob Stewart, go head-to-head on the future of the Falklands.


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