23/09/2012 Sunday Politics Scotland


23/09/2012

Andrew Neil and Isabel Fraser with the latest political news, debate and interviews, including chief secretary Alexander and communities secretary Eric Pickles.


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Good morning. Thank you it that for joining us for the new and extended

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programme. The Treasury Secretary announces plans to crack down on

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anyone who has homes or other assets above �1 million may not be

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paying all the taxes they should. Or will we hear more about Nick

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Clegg's wealth tax. Will it improve the economy? And time for a fresh

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crackdown on yobs who will abuse at the police? No sign yet, as the

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chief whip hangs on to his job. Eric Pickles says his posher

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colleague should get out of the Cabinet.

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And in the Sunday Politics Scotland....

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Michael Moore in Brighton talks to us about welfare reform and Nick

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Clegg's chances of survival. Plus, the campaign to get every man

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1778 seconds

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and his dog on the march for Firstly, under Labour, Labour got

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the gap between it rich and poor wader, do not forget about that.

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The wealthy, who own much more than the percentage they are paying in

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tax, should be paying more. It is absolutely ridiculous that they

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should pay less than the marginal rate. Where the wrong to agree to

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that? All the evidence shows that it would clearly raised a lot more.

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Not, I disagree with that. All the academics who have studied this do

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not agree with that. I do not mind if the Conservatives said that the

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next election, if you fought for us, we will not be that tough on the

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wealthy. But that is because we know how to tax the rich in a way

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to get more revenue from them full. Surely that is the way to go.

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seem to a one part of the coalition saying we need to freeze taxes and

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benefits and genocide saying that you need more tax on the welfare.

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Surely some sort of deal will have to be done? We have been following

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the label Liberal Democrat approach in many aspects. The higher tax

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rates at are bringing in a less revenue. Seven-tenths of the

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reduction is coming from spending cuts. How have you looked at the

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numbers question mark. What we are saying is we do not think there

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should be any more cuts affecting the working court until the wealthy

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Parts of the Conservative Party believe that George Osborne is not

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putting enough in this respect. that is another debate. It's is

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Good morning and welcome to Sunday Politics Scotland.

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Coming up on the programme... Marching to the tune of

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independence. But are they just preaching to the converted?

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And we will be live at the Liberal Democrat Conference with Michael

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Moore. How will the the impending welfare reform changes impact on

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the working poor? I do not think that work pays. If you have

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children and you are part-time. You have always got concerns for the

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likes of babysitters and child care. Thousands of people gathered in

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Edinburgh this weekend for a march and rally for independence. It was

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staged under the banner Independence for Scotland and is

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not part of the official Yes, Scotland campaign, but all the

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leading lights were there. The event aims to build support ahead

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of the referendum. With annual marches planned until the vote, it

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could become a significant staging post in the two-year campaign. Our

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reporter Andrew Kerr followed the marchers. A merry dance to it warm-

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up for the march ahead. You are getting you back painted? Does that

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sure your dedication to the cause? I hope so. I am looking to raise

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awareness. As the march got underway, the aim was clear.

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Raising the profile of the independence movement. The marchers

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are heading into the gardens for the rally. The fault of Edinburgh

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have come out to watch them, but it is then they have to convince about

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independence. I am sure that even the fall in the northern islands

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can hear as. The crowd chanted independence now, but quite a wait

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until the referendum. A we are wanted to put forward this totally

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democratic process so that everyone has the chance to put forward their

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argument. I thought 2014 was the right date for that campaign.

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one third of Scots believe in independence now, everyone of us as

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good two years to persuade another one person and then we are warm and

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dry. So will, as Margo MacDonald said, one-third of people want

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independence. Optimism abounds. think the tonight and a delight

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this demonstrates that there are people who are convinced that

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independence is the right way forward. There was a slight scuffle

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when the Union flag was unfurled. Or will Foy, may well look back and

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this with pride. I have no doubt whatsoever that there will be a

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change in the future. There will be one more rally next year. There

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will also be another and 2014. It will be crunch time for the

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supporters of independence. With me in the studio is the former

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Labour MP, Independent MSP and now Chair of the Yes, Scotland Advisory

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Board, Dennis Canavan. What are much as for? To the ever persuade

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anyone or are they simply preaching to the converted? They raised the

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profile of the campaign and I think yesterday's event was very

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successful. They were young people, all people, men, women, black

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people, or Mark marching together demonstrating their commitment to

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Scottish independence, simply because an independent Scotland

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will break a better future for the people of Scotland because the

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people of Scotland will be able to share that future. People were

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saying this was a lot less people to march for devolution, saw was

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that a disappointment? It the early days of Scotland United, we had

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similar attendances, but we built on it. And we will build on that

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attendance we got yesterday. There are a lot of Hearts and minds out

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there in Scotland. There are a lot of people who do not know how they

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would vote in two years' time and we have to win the Hearts and minds

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by putting forward a positive vision that we have for the future.

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House said it is this campaign so that people do not think it is

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simply another name for the Scottish National Party. Of this

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are, by the very nature of their party, the Scottish National Party

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will play a very important role in this. But this is a very broad

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church of people from various party political affiliations. What is the

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role of Alex Salmond? As the First Minister, he has to Speaker behalf

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of the Scottish government. A as regards the campaign, is he the

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figurehead? Yes, he would obviously be a leader in the campaign. There

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are aspects of Scottish government policy but I disagree with. Within

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a hour Yes, Scotland campaign, there are a lot of people who will

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have reservations about what the Scottish gunmen is saying and

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certain aspects of policy. But what unites us is that the democratic

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right of the people in Scotland to determine their own future and

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become full members of the international community. After all,

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I am not a nationalist. If the is the clash of interests between the

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domestic interests of the Scottish National Party and that of the

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campaign, do you trust Alex Salmond unequivocally? I had the good

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working relationship with them. he knows that I disagree with some

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of the things that his government have done and will do in the future.

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But what brings us together in the Yes, Scotland is this desire to

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come together to maximise the yes vote in the referendum, on the

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grounds that the people of Scotland should determine their own future.

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And you can guarantee that he will put that before party political

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interests? If there was a DevoMax question on the ballot paper, which

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you vote against that? I do not want a second question on the

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ballot paper. The Yes, Scotland campaign will be campaigning for

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independence. When the to be an independent Parliament, would

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actually lead to a boost for a Scottish Labour? He is, I actually

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think that the party was badly hurt by Tony Blair abandoning socialism

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and that really hurt them in Scotland. To an extent, the

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Scottish National Party have filled a vacuum. The likes of free

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prescriptions and getting rid of tuition fees and getting rid of

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nuclear weapons. If there where an independent Scotland, it could be

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the death-knell not for Scottish Labour, but actually in lead to

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their renaissance. At the return to the Parliament for you? I not say

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that. You are not ruling it out! Not, I am not looking at. But who

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knows what the future will hold. it disappointing that the new

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leaders ship of the Scottish Labour Party has not to form words there

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intentions as regards this campaign. They have got to do a lot better

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than what the dead it in 1979 with the fought back then. You could now

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have the Scottish and Labour Conservatives bought saying that

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you should go for goal in 2014, without putting forward any

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alternatives. We agreed on one question for the referendum and

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that would give people a simple choice for the people of Scotland.

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With positive campaigning in the name for six campaign, we will win

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in 2014. How important is it now that this moves beyond the process

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and you move towards developing the campaign. Is there a problem with

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momentum? A as I said yesterday, it is going to be more like a marathon

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than a short distance print. We have got to time the campaign for

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it to work. We already have and the Yes, Scotland campaign a great team,

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a executive management team, who are involved in advising the

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strategy for that campaign. He will develop the strategy for

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fundraising to finance it and I think if we can get across the

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positive arguments to the people of Scotland about what independence

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will mean, we will win in 2014. Now this may be our first outing

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after the summer recess, but in Holyrood the politicians began

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their stretching exercises a couple of weeks ago warming up for the

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explosion of political energy that was the budget. Let's take a look

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back at the Week in Sixty Seconds. The summer of sport is over but the

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finance secretary is building on the momentum with a �1 million

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budget handout to Scotland's elite athletes. Would an independent

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Scotland have automatic membership of the EU? They have been calls for

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an inquiry which has provoked heated exchanges. You want to gag

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me a game in public. It is such an important topic, but she wanted

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this matter to be gagged? Claim and counter-claim on welfare, the work

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and pensions Secretary said an independent Scotland would not be

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able to afford its welfare bill. The First Minister insists it would.

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It is total nonsense. And our national emblem shows its cuddly

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sides as it is unveiled as the official mascot for the

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Commonwealth Games. Welfare. How can Scotland afford to

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go it alone? That was the question posed by Work and Pensions

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Secretary Iain Duncan Smith when he was in Glasgow this week to outline

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his flagship policy of Universal Credit. The Scottish Government say

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of course they can pay their own way, their main concern is how to

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mitigate the damage caused by coalition benefit cuts. But away

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from the pure politics, how are changes to the benefit system

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affecting those who rely on support? Hayley Jarvis reports from

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Easterhouse, the Glasgow suburb that inspired Iain Duncan Smith's

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mantra that work should always pay. He still has 2002, Iain Duncan

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Smith, then Leader of the Opposition when to a dilapidated

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housing estate and left within knew were aimed. 10 years on, the now

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Work and Pensions Secretary is back in Glasgow promoting his Universal

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Credit. From next year, benefits like housing and income support

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will be rolled into one payment. The UK Government says it will be a

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fairer system and will save �7 billion. But how will the reforms

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play at at Easterhouse today where unemployment remains high and

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almost a third of people are on benefits? I caught up with some

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part-time workers at a community centre said to have impressed Iain

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Duncan Smith. Now we new premises, they say they are already feeling

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the sting. I am worried because I know there will be cats and cuts

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will be made to people who get working Tax Credit and things like

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that. Even if I did get the council tax benefit, when it comes to April,

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I would lose it anyway. I am quite poor. So to since advice in Glasgow

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are bracing themselves for the introduction of the Universal

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Credit which they believe will lead to more people on low incomes

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coming through their doors. It is undoubtedly going to happen. There

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will be more multiple debt situations. But people cannot

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manage on fields and fuel, their general living costs are going to

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create debts in other areas. Scottish Parliament broke new

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ground when it refused to accept the UK wide reforms won it looks at

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the impact it will have year. Meanwhile, it has passed its own

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legislation to protect certain benefits. I have had to find �23

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million to support the mitigation of the cuts to welfare benefits

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that have been put forward by the United Kingdom Government. I found

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that. By making difficult choices within the Budget. Those are the

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choices I make to ensure we can fulfil our obligations. As Iain

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Duncan Smith spreads the word on Universal Credit, the Chancellor

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says he wants to lose a further �10 billion from the welfare budget.

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But could it mean breaking the link between benefits and inflation,

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something that the work of Pensions Secretary has rejected before?

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Whatever happened in the past is not the same now. You look at what

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happens at the time and then you make a decision. To be honest, I

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have not discussed it and I do not plunge do so until I know the

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inflation figures. Such a move would not go down well back in

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Easterhouse where people say the cost of living is already too high.

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There will be opposition from the Liberal Democrats. Their leader

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says he will not back further cuts unless there is a trade-off for

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taxes for the wealthy. Will Nick Clegg be able to stick to his guns?

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We can go live now to Brighton, where we are joined by the

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Secretary of State for Scotland and the Liberal Democrat MP for

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Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk, Michael Moore.

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George Osborne once �10 billion of cuts from the welfare budget. Is

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that something you support? Their discussions have been held about

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what the next Spending Review will we look like and what will be

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happening in any of the departments across Government, so that is not a

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figure that I accept it and is not one I expect to see delivered.

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Would you accept any further cuts to the welfare budget? What we are

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seeking to do with welfare reform and short piece was focused on

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Universal Credit, is make sure we have a system designed to help the

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most vulnerable with that we have people and we can make sure that

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work pays. We are making sure that as we do that, we are rejecting a

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degree of fairness into some of the toughest decisions we have had to

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take about the economy and Government spending overall. In the

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last year, we have been seen more Scot come out of tax altogether so

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that by next April, we will have 160,000 Scott will not be paying

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Scott -- paying tax. 2 million will be paying less in tax every year

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and for pensioners, we have made some important strides. We have got

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the biggest cash increase in the state pension ever and by next

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April, Scottish state pensioners will have had �500 more than they

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would have otherwise had. In the toughest of times, we have focused

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on making sure we are fed to people. Just to be clear about this, are

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you saying that you are absolutely happy with the mechanics and the

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effect of Universal Credit? We are determined to get Universal Credit

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right. We accept this is a very ambitious change in the offer. What

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people also recognise across the country is that the current system

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is far too cumbersome, far too complicated for people to navigate

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their way through. We need to make it a lot simpler so that people

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know what their entitlements will be an to get those reliably. We

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also need to make sure that we make sure that work pays. But we take

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less away from people as the going to work and as they increase their

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row was. That has been one of our biggest challenges. We are making

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sure that reform happens. Coalition former policy Tsar is

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saying he thinks the mechanics of all the best do not work. Nick

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Clegg has said, no more cuts to anything until we get some movement

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on wealth tax. Is that not opposition? We want to see the

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wealthy pay a much higher at Burton on taxation in the country. A much

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higher share of the tax from them. It is in a fair way of ensuring

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that in tough times, people can contribute the right amount.

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would you do that? What we are not going to do is balance the books on

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the back of the power. That is our key message at this conference and

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when we will be taking around the country. We will have to make some

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tough choices. But as a Liberal Democrats in the Coalition, we are

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making a central commitment to fairness in the welfare system and

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fairness in our tax system. Are you saying that if you bring in the

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wealth taxes that you want and perhaps you might later explain how

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he would raise these taxes, and two would be targeted, but are you

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saying the principle is that you bring in these wealth taxes,

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therefore, you can reduce the amount of money that has to come

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out of the welfare budget? Cuts will not have to go ahead to the

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same extent if you can offset that with what taxes? -- wealth taxes.

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We believe it is right that the wealthy should give more. We will

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continue to argue that case across the country. But particularly

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within the Government so that we get the right balance between the

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wealthy paying their share and making sure we have got support for

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You signed the pledge as regards tuition fees. By you sorry? So it,

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I did not hear that. Did you say and by apologising? Yes, but I do

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apologise, we all have a apologised for that. Nick like has made that

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very public statement about that. - - Nick Clegg. We are almost out of

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time. Are you apologising for having made the pledge or

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apologising for not been able to keep to it? We apologising to make

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a pledge which was not going to be deliverable. We were wrong to make

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that part of our pre- election campaign. Where you naive or ill-

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advised? Where you just totally unprepared for the reality of

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coalition politics? We made the wrong decision. We made a pledge

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that these circumstances would mean we were unable to keep. We paid for

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that in terms of public support in recent years. I think it is right

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for Nick Clegg to acknowledge that fact and make sure we are clear or

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about what we're going to see in advance of elections about how we

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will implement them. Why you come up with your wealth tax plan, you

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coalition partners say absolutely not, that looks like you aligning

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yourself up for another broken pledge? We are working through the

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proposals of the wealth tax. This is not simply what we do within

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government. We want to make sure the argument is made across the

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whole of Scotland and the United Kingdom. What we're determined to

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do is make tough decisions about public spending and make sure we

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make the right decisions. We want the benefits system to be share --

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fair and make sure that the wealthy pay their fair share. There is talk

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of plotting against Nick Clegg? What we Jews say about that? People

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will be focusing on the issues. We want to get out across the country

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to put forward Olla ideas. We have to leave it there. Thank you very

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much. The Deputy Prime Minister has said they would not let the

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Conservatives let the wealthy away with tax cuts. He says the voters

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realise his party is fighting for fairness. People would find it all

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the unacceptable a further fiscal austerity it was picked on to the

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poor. They have already gone for a new levy on expensive properties.

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It was not clear to be what other plans they had to hit the wealthy.

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The river is going to be in power at the next Parliament will have to

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introduced further cuts. I think we need to have the debate now in the

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middle of this Parliament about the principles which will govern that

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process. They are government will make sure that the better-off cough

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up. A specialist team of tax inspectors has been increased from

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200 to 300. Now, a millionairess will come under scrutiny. Nick

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Clegg, perhaps more than any other politician knows the dangers of

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promising what you cannot deliver. Now he has to tell them how and

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when. He and his that the Liberal Democrat conference. How much is he

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trying to just please his own supporters? To be fair, I think it

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will please his supporters that he is determined to tax the most

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wealthy. He has put a team together to come up with the various options.

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But the voters may be sceptical as to whether they can deliver. He has

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been unable to deliver this with regard to getting his coalition

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partners to agree. Again, he has come out with plans today, but very

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little detail. The idea that the wealthy will pay more in difficult

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times is popular with the voters, but what the conference will be

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asking is how he is going to do anything into practice. About has

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died and another seriously injured in a skydiving accident in

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Peterborough. It is not the men collided 50 ft above the ground.

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One man is in his early Fifties and died at the scene. The other is in

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hospital with severe spinal and leg injuries. Households could be

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compensated by a electricity and gas suppliers to break Industry

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rules. Under the proposals, Ofgem will have the proposals to make the

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company's give fines directly to the customer, as opposed to the

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Treasury. Special services are being held today to commemorate the

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two police officers killed in Manchester. Deal Keegan has been

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accused of murdering four people. There will be more news at 635 this

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:02:19.:02:21.

evening. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. The Chief Secretary

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to the Treasury and Highlands MP Danny Alexander has been charged

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with overseeing the government's Trident review programme. The

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Coalition partners disagree about the replacement of the nuclear

:02:28.:02:31.

deterrent. A final decision will not be made until after the general

:02:31.:02:33.

election. A 17-year old man has been killed

:02:33.:02:37.

in a car crash in the Highlands. The accident took place on the road

:02:37.:02:40.

between Whitebridge and Fort Augustus near the Suidhe viewpoint

:02:40.:02:43.

at around ten o'clock last night. The car's driver is in a stable

:02:43.:02:47.

condition in hospital. It is hoped millions of pounds of

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funding will bring down waiting times for infertility treatment.

:02:50.:02:53.

The Scottish government say an extra �12 million will go towards

:02:53.:02:59.

improving access to IVF in all NHS boards. The money will support the

:02:59.:03:02.

SNP's commitment to deliver a maximum waiting time of 12 months

:03:02.:03:09.

for IVF treatment by 2015. Now let us take a look at the

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:03:19.:03:19.

Good afternoon. After a cold night for much of the country, we can

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look forward to a fine autumnal day across much of Scotland. It will be

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dry with nice smells of sunshine, but will feel cool, particularly in

:03:31.:03:35.

coastal areas. That is all for now, I will hand

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:03:45.:03:47.

Thanks, Andrew. Now it is time for our regular look at The Week Ahead.

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Today we are joined by two former special advisors for the Liberal

:03:50.:04:00.
:04:00.:04:03.

Democrats, Christine Jardine and for the SNP, Ewan Crawford. Thank

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you both for coming in. A lot in the newspapers about the Liberal

:04:11.:04:17.

Democrat conference. The Observer is leading on coalition cuts have

:04:17.:04:27.

been too deep says a key aide to it Nick Clegg. Other trips revolting?

:04:27.:04:37.
:04:37.:04:37.

Dashmack will I think this is natural when things are not looking

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so good any opinion poll. Any New Statesman this week, he was saying

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it was time to back Nick Clegg and that is more what I think you will

:04:52.:04:56.

see at the conference. People are having to think about what they

:04:56.:05:00.

have to do here. We are halfway through the coalition and I think

:05:00.:05:07.

what we will see is a very different approach from Nick Clegg.

:05:07.:05:11.

What we will see at the conference will be a general movement towards

:05:11.:05:17.

a different stance. If we are hearing about wealth tax and we do

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not have the details of that. Is it going to be plausible? But probably

:05:25.:05:31.

not. When you asked about Michael move whether he was sorry about

:05:31.:05:38.

tuition fees, in my head didn't immediately came in was that we met

:05:38.:05:43.

us that we here at! The trouble is that the Liberal Democrats have

:05:43.:05:49.

gone into mockery, because Nick Clegg was forced to watch that on

:05:49.:05:58.

the BBC he. I am sure thinking, when it comes to this wealth tax,

:05:58.:06:02.

most people are laughing at the prospect of them been able to bring

:06:02.:06:10.

it in. His the credibility issue a problem? As the think you will see

:06:10.:06:14.

a lot more campaigning outside government. I think the problem in

:06:14.:06:19.

coalition is the problem of collective responsibility. What

:06:19.:06:22.

they're going to try and do now is make it clear to the public what

:06:22.:06:27.

they actually want to, as opposed to what actually comes out of the

:06:27.:06:34.

Cabinet decisions. You will see a response to what happened this week.

:06:34.:06:40.

I think you will see differences in the next couple of years? The and

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what way? Her I think you saw the fledgling Movement for the fairer

:06:47.:06:52.

tax campaign before the Budget when Nick Clegg was pitching for the

:06:52.:06:58.

10,000 pound tax threshold. Now, I think you will see the wealth tax

:06:58.:07:02.

campaign. He said this morning that after what happened with tuition

:07:02.:07:06.

fees he cannot promise that, but he was putting forward the point that

:07:06.:07:15.

this is what they want. It is more honest for them to do that. Now, in

:07:15.:07:21.

the Sunday Times, the talk about Vince Cable's war on shady tax

:07:21.:07:31.
:07:31.:07:33.

havens. A the front page picture is of the march in Edinburgh. To you

:07:33.:07:38.

think there is a danger that people will peak too soon? Is it difficult

:07:38.:07:43.

to bring up momentum or just about raising awareness at the moment?

:07:43.:07:49.

think it was the good morale- booster for those who were there.

:07:49.:07:54.

You saw earlier in the programme, Iain Duncan-Smith ducky about

:07:54.:08:01.

welfare policy. It is an issue reserve to Westminster, but it

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could become quite an issue if it was realised that this could be

:08:06.:08:10.

decided by Holyrood. It is the type of thing which will be more

:08:10.:08:14.

important that the likes of the march. It was a nice day out and

:08:14.:08:19.

very enjoyable, but those issues will decide what is more important.

:08:20.:08:25.

This that imported you move beyond the process and into the policies?

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Here is, you need to start talking about the likes of welfare, Defence,

:08:29.:08:34.

Andrew Neil and Isabel Fraser with the latest political news, debate and interviews, including chief secretary to the Treasury Danny Alexander and communities secretary Eric Pickles.


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