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It is supposed to be a government department getting Burton moving | :00:44. | :00:49. | |
again. But its transport policy stuck in neutral? We will ask the | :00:49. | :00:59. | |
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The UK Independence Party are why - - riding a wave of Conservative | :01:00. | :01:10. | |
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And are you a shirker or race driver? We debate whether the -- | :01:14. | :01:24. | |
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And we explore the psychology behind David Cameron and Ed | :01:25. | :01:35. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1947 seconds | :01:35. | :34:02. | |
In Scotland, we review all the At Turtle all day, tackle the | :34:02. | :34:10. | |
minimum wage. S Waugh or less in the real terms than it was in 2004. | :34:11. | :34:20. | |
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That is shocking. That deficit reduction means that we have to | :34:22. | :34:28. | |
deal with our debt. Labour let us at a deficit, the largest in | :34:28. | :34:38. | |
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Bet would be useful to get back to the subject of welfare reform. You | :34:40. | :34:50. | |
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want more means testing. Why? universal system is unsustainable. | :34:52. | :34:57. | |
With the ageing population it is no longer sustainable. We cannot have | :34:57. | :35:04. | |
universal benefits. I remember, the interview by Frances Maude talking | :35:04. | :35:11. | |
about on sustainability. But Hutton report showed that public sector | :35:11. | :35:18. | |
pension costs will go down as a proportion of GDP. Let get real. | :35:18. | :35:24. | |
There is a demographic problem through the Western world. Can we | :35:24. | :35:28. | |
still fought, throughout the Western world, to support that the | :35:28. | :35:32. | |
ageing population with universal benefits? What do we need means- | :35:32. | :35:42. | |
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testing? Means testing it increases the costs. It lower the rate of | :35:46. | :35:53. | |
uptake. It costs more to administer more. And it leads to higher rates | :35:53. | :36:03. | |
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of benefit fraud. In the long term it will not cost more. It is not | :36:04. | :36:09. | |
feel that an MP on a salary of �60,000 per year is claiming the | :36:09. | :36:16. | |
winter fuel allowance. On that basis you should not get free | :36:16. | :36:26. | |
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health care. You want an American- style safety net just for the poor? | :36:27. | :36:34. | |
Some of us want a universal welfare state. How are you going to pay for | :36:34. | :36:41. | |
it? More tax? How do we pay for corporate welfare? We spend | :36:41. | :36:45. | |
hundreds of billions of pounds and try and, Afghanistan, but there is | :36:45. | :36:50. | |
no money for the poor, disabled, elderly? For them, we must squeeze | :36:50. | :37:00. | |
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down? It is unsustainable? Gentleman, time up. Thank you very | :37:03. | :37:13. | |
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Good morning. Coming up: the economy, the recession, the | :37:23. | :37:27. | |
recovery. Why does it feel justly be here before, and the year before | :37:27. | :37:36. | |
that? We have to do something. We have to introduce the game changed | :37:36. | :37:43. | |
a. If we don't we will be flatlining. There is our last | :37:43. | :37:53. | |
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programme before Christmas. Time This week saw what the Scottish | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
Government said was the largest fall in unemployment for years. A | :37:58. | :38:05. | |
glimmer of good news. We're trying to assess where we are now run what | :38:05. | :38:12. | |
will come away next year. There are just nine shopping days until | :38:12. | :38:18. | |
Christmas. The buying frenzy masks of a harsh economic realities many | :38:18. | :38:26. | |
people faced this year. Single mother Jackie has been saving hard | :38:26. | :38:35. | |
to pay for the pestered season. -- festive. Rising costs, including | :38:35. | :38:45. | |
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child care, means that money does not go far enough. If they do not | :38:48. | :38:56. | |
match the cost of living in I don't see the point of tax credits. They | :38:56. | :39:04. | |
are not helping us. The plans that we have at the moment are changing | :39:04. | :39:09. | |
all the time. It is difficult to predict how things will materialise. | :39:09. | :39:13. | |
There are so many changes, so many cuts, it is difficult to tell | :39:13. | :39:17. | |
anybody exactly how it will affect them personally, which is often | :39:17. | :39:25. | |
what people want to know. Market lives just outside Dumfries. She | :39:25. | :39:32. | |
says she feels like a prisoner in her own home. -- market. She's | :39:32. | :39:41. | |
frustrated by a limited transport services and her area. Taiwan to be | :39:41. | :39:45. | |
dead. Unless something will let me get out and do the things I want to | :39:45. | :39:55. | |
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do. Who will help me on and off my scooter? What has happened in this | :40:04. | :40:08. | |
year is that councils have tightened up the criteria for three | :40:08. | :40:16. | |
services. They have increased their charges for a variety of services. | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
Given the settlement they have going into next year - a reduced | :40:20. | :40:29. | |
overall settlement - they have been given �70 million and by anarchic | :40:30. | :40:36. | |
relation match BT million pounds. - - by my calculation that should be | :40:36. | :40:43. | |
�80 million. Unemployment figures may be down but that is cold | :40:43. | :40:48. | |
comfort for this man with a call- centre job having come out of | :40:48. | :40:55. | |
university. Debt is fine for a short time but I would like to go | :40:55. | :41:00. | |
into a graduate profession ultimately. But it is very | :41:00. | :41:08. | |
difficult to find him get on to something. Despite a fall in | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
unemployment the underlying picture in Scotland is weak. Jobs are | :41:12. | :41:22. | |
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falling. An activity is rising. -- inactivity. Growth will be weak | :41:22. | :41:31. | |
next year, we forecast just over 1%. Against that background there will | :41:31. | :41:40. | |
not be much job-creation next here. With those week forecast how can we | :41:41. | :41:49. | |
get growth back? A radical programme of housebuilding. Rather | :41:49. | :41:59. | |
late 1960s. -- rather like the. The economy has undergone a structural | :41:59. | :42:08. | |
shift. We must do something. We must introduce a game changer. If | :42:08. | :42:16. | |
we do not we will be flatlining. There is some good news for the | :42:16. | :42:23. | |
oil-rich economy of the north-east. The North Sea is going very | :42:23. | :42:32. | |
strongly. It is in a mature phase. There is more investment as you can | :42:32. | :42:40. | |
recover more typical sources. We are into that phase now. Overall | :42:40. | :42:48. | |
the picture for next year looks I am joined by the youth employment | :42:48. | :42:55. | |
minister. Do you accept that governments cannot make much | :42:55. | :43:02. | |
difference to the labour market? certainly accept that it is | :43:02. | :43:09. | |
difficult for a devolved government. But we do have some good news this | :43:09. | :43:13. | |
week as your piece rightly articulated. The fall in | :43:13. | :43:18. | |
unemployment, the largest in four years. The youth employment | :43:18. | :43:24. | |
statistics are certainly a welcome step in the right direction. 25,000 | :43:24. | :43:28. | |
less young people are seeking work at this time of the Year than this | :43:28. | :43:36. | |
time last year. What about the overall economic predictions? Where | :43:36. | :43:40. | |
is the evidence that a full range of powers would make a difference | :43:40. | :43:49. | |
given the unemployment rate in Ireland? I visited Europe and the | :43:49. | :43:54. | |
last four May and spoke to representatives -- in the last | :43:54. | :44:02. | |
fortnight. There unemployment levels are something we should be | :44:02. | :44:09. | |
striving for. We certainly do need a team changes and I would argue | :44:09. | :44:13. | |
that the game changes the independence referendum. -- a game | :44:13. | :44:21. | |
changer. In the draft budget we have announced that a large-scale | :44:21. | :44:26. | |
employment recruitment incentive, in effect a wage subsidy, could | :44:26. | :44:32. | |
provide up to 10,000 jobs for young people. So there is much more to be | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
done and more that we could do it in a parliament with job-creating | :44:35. | :44:45. | |
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Paras. Job-creating powers? What does that mean in practice? | :44:47. | :44:50. | |
Department that has full control of taxation, welfare, National | :44:50. | :44:57. | |
Insurance, and an ability to invest in large-scale capital investment | :44:57. | :45:07. | |
projects. -- a Parliament. things like unemployment loss -- | :45:07. | :45:12. | |
laws, whatever Parliament has control that has to control | :45:12. | :45:19. | |
important levers? Yes, I would argue that. There are European | :45:19. | :45:24. | |
countries do much better than the United Kingdom. I would argue that | :45:24. | :45:28. | |
in Scotland we're punching above await. If there has been a | :45:28. | :45:33. | |
significant fall in youth unemployment. Do you expected to | :45:33. | :45:39. | |
continue? I would never one to predict labour market statistics | :45:39. | :45:44. | |
but we are very focused on the need to get more young people into work. | :45:44. | :45:53. | |
But we also need to be in this for the long haul. I would argue that | :45:53. | :45:59. | |
the pre-recession figures were too high. That is why I are believer in | :45:59. | :46:09. | |
independence. Do you see how people get frustrated? When the totals are | :46:09. | :46:16. | |
bad you blame Westminster, when there could you say it is the SNP. | :46:16. | :46:21. | |
John Swinney has welcomed the fall in unemployment in Scotland, the | :46:21. | :46:25. | |
lowest of all the UK country's. But he also said that we need to do | :46:25. | :46:34. | |
much more given the fall in employment rates. We need to | :46:34. | :46:38. | |
understand labour market statistics in the round. Behind the numbers | :46:38. | :46:45. | |
are real people struggling to find work. Let's look at the effect on | :46:45. | :46:52. | |
real people of the cutbacks in local services. The council tax | :46:52. | :46:57. | |
freeze has worked out at just under 100 per ounce the year saved per | :46:57. | :47:07. | |
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household. -- �100. When does the balance that where it would be | :47:07. | :47:15. | |
money well spent for people to have paid that extra? It is important | :47:15. | :47:19. | |
that those who are struggling the most right now are not asked to pay | :47:19. | :47:25. | |
more. You will have heard the SNP government talking about the | :47:25. | :47:29. | |
importance of the social wage. We asked arriving as hard as we can to | :47:29. | :47:39. | |
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keep money in the pockets of hard- pressed people. These measures are | :47:41. | :47:51. | |
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part of and imperative move. But as a result of your council tax these | :47:53. | :47:59. | |
people are paying more on alternative services. Council tax | :47:59. | :48:05. | |
is a comparatively small part of local-government income. We have | :48:05. | :48:12. | |
protected local government's Shea. Not by enough, according to the | :48:12. | :48:14. | |
professor, who said you are seriously adrift that you are | :48:14. | :48:22. | |
serious about shoring up services. We have to live within our means. | :48:22. | :48:25. | |
Oh we want to change those means but until the people of Scotland | :48:26. | :48:29. | |
vote yes in a referendum we're at the mercy of the UK Government to | :48:29. | :48:37. | |
in effect give us our budget, out of pocket money. We'll come back to | :48:37. | :48:47. | |
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the economy just a moment but first Spreading Christmas Shia with a | :48:49. | :48:56. | |
fall on a number of people out of work. But staff here warned that it | :48:56. | :49:01. | |
is still tough to get work. It is difficult to get a job with so many | :49:01. | :49:11. | |
people competing for the same job as you. By we have got to continue | :49:11. | :49:21. | |
our efforts to boost employment base within Scotland. There is an | :49:21. | :49:28. | |
extra �300 million for the Scottish Government to spend. There where | :49:28. | :49:32. | |
tidings of discomfort and war four shots when the Scottish Retail | :49:32. | :49:40. | |
Consortium said that sales were down 1.2 % leading up his Christmas. | :49:40. | :49:50. | |
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Can the UK credit rating came under With me now is an MP and MEP and an | :49:53. | :50:02. | |
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MSP. Thank you all very much indeed for coming in. Margaret Curran, | :50:06. | :50:13. | |
which we are you voting in the welfare bill? Labour has said | :50:13. | :50:16. | |
though we will wait to see the details. We are not comfortable | :50:16. | :50:22. | |
with a government that gives us �3 billion to well-off people. -- its | :50:22. | :50:30. | |
�3 billion. Whilst attacking people on maternity allowance and tax | :50:30. | :50:34. | |
credits. That will not help the economy. We're certainly not | :50:34. | :50:37. | |
comfortable with that as things stand but we must wait to see the | :50:37. | :50:47. | |
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Quite unique in a more detail? it stands, I am certain we will be | :50:51. | :50:58. | |
voting against it. They might be persuaded that what they are doing | :50:58. | :51:03. | |
is wrong and affecting the quality of the lives of people on their | :51:03. | :51:10. | |
benefits. They are presenting a false argument and saying it is | :51:10. | :51:15. | |
about taking people who are scrounging and not paying their way, | :51:15. | :51:21. | |
but these benefits will affect the working people. Tax credits have | :51:21. | :51:24. | |
been successful and material lot to people and attacking those people | :51:24. | :51:30. | |
does not help anyone. The people worst affected by those are people | :51:31. | :51:35. | |
who are in work and are struggling to get by another on the moors then | :51:35. | :51:44. | |
comes. -- the list in comes. believe that all sectors have to | :51:44. | :51:49. | |
share the burden of trying to reduce the debt. Do you think that | :51:49. | :51:56. | |
is what is happening now in? want to make sure there is a fair | :51:56. | :52:01. | |
share of taking the road of this and already this week, we have seen | :52:01. | :52:10. | |
worries about the triple A credit rating. Labour say we should have a | :52:10. | :52:16. | |
Plan B and it all seems to be about borrowing more work. I do not think | :52:16. | :52:20. | |
that is a credible choice to make at all. You can see across Europe | :52:20. | :52:25. | |
that more borrowing has meant you are unable to borrow a tall and | :52:25. | :52:30. | |
inflation goes up. That would hit many householders across our | :52:30. | :52:40. | |
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society. We have made the right choices and have tackled the rich | :52:40. | :52:45. | |
and they are paying more or under the plans. Be enough? They could | :52:45. | :52:53. | |
always pay more. We will be cracking down on tax evasion. Right | :52:54. | :52:57. | |
across the board, we have to ensure that everybody carries their fair | :52:57. | :53:04. | |
share. The number one problem we have is the huge debt that Labour | :53:04. | :53:08. | |
left the Hind. Even the credit agencies are saying that the | :53:08. | :53:17. | |
economy is stagnating. If you lose the credit rating, at the borrowing | :53:17. | :53:25. | |
costs will go up anyway. We have to tackle the huge deficit we are | :53:25. | :53:31. | |
currently running. The big challenge for Labour is that they | :53:31. | :53:38. | |
cannot demonstrate how they would balance the books. When you look at | :53:38. | :53:43. | |
the imperative for economic growth, do you not think now there has to | :53:43. | :53:46. | |
be a radical rethink of what the strategy is coming out of | :53:46. | :53:54. | |
Westminster? It is not all bad news and unemployment is falling and is | :53:55. | :54:02. | |
much lower than many people predicted that this stage. There | :54:02. | :54:06. | |
have been 1 million private sector jobs created since 2010. There is | :54:06. | :54:14. | |
good news in some areas. It is absolutely right that the | :54:14. | :54:19. | |
imperative as for the government to tackle debt levels. The UK has the | :54:19. | :54:24. | |
highest debt level of any major Western economy. Labour says, let's | :54:25. | :54:34. | |
spend more money and accelerate the rate of increase of any debt. There | :54:34. | :54:38. | |
is no silver dot here. There are a number of reforms that the | :54:39. | :54:44. | |
government is pressing ahead with and there are supply-side reforms, | :54:44. | :54:48. | |
but it will take a long time to work out the economic mess of the | :54:48. | :54:55. | |
last Labour government. The current government is doing a good job | :54:55. | :55:00. | |
itself of threatening the triple A credit rating itself. Borrowing is | :55:00. | :55:07. | |
going up as a result of these policies... Hang on, George! We do | :55:07. | :55:13. | |
not need more right wing supply- side economics. What this economy | :55:13. | :55:21. | |
crucially needs is a demand let recovery. We are above our heads in | :55:21. | :55:27. | |
debt as opposed to just our next? We have had this government for two | :55:27. | :55:30. | |
years and all that has happened is that they have reduced their | :55:30. | :55:39. | |
forecasts every single time and the economy is shrinking. Scotland is | :55:39. | :55:45. | |
the ad up in which employment fell the most in the UK last year. | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
Borrowing is going up because we have so many people claiming | :55:48. | :55:56. | |
benefits. Supply-side economics is the problem. Do you think Scotland | :55:56. | :55:59. | |
has not done as well in job- creation as in other parts of the | :55:59. | :56:07. | |
UK? It is a mixed picture and looking back over the last year, in | :56:07. | :56:13. | |
some months, Scotland has performed better than the UK. We have some | :56:13. | :56:20. | |
strengths in the Scottish economy such as All Ireland gas. -- Oil and | :56:21. | :56:29. | |
Gas. There are still a lot of problems in parts of Scotland and | :56:29. | :56:32. | |
there is no sign of the Scottish government using the powers they | :56:32. | :56:41. | |
have to help business. They are imposing more taxes on business. | :56:41. | :56:45. | |
All that is going to do is make it more difficult for the private | :56:45. | :56:50. | |
sector to grow our way out of recession. What do you what to do | :56:50. | :56:53. | |
in government to relieve unemployment that you're not being | :56:53. | :57:01. | |
allowed to divide the Tories? would like to invest more, if we | :57:01. | :57:08. | |
could, in trying to advance growth. We still have to make sure that we | :57:08. | :57:15. | |
balance the books and show a credible plan that we can reduce... | :57:15. | :57:20. | |
Invest more in what, capital projects? We have announced plans | :57:20. | :57:26. | |
for capital investment at a youth employment programme. We have the | :57:26. | :57:29. | |
state funded bank lending scheme which the Liberal Democrats have | :57:29. | :57:33. | |
announced as well. These are all measures to create and stimulate | :57:33. | :57:38. | |
growth because one of the fundamental challenges that new | :57:38. | :57:45. | |
businesses face at the moment is a lack of credit. State backing for | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
lending and the State Bank we're trying to create should help. These | :57:50. | :57:57. | |
are the right measures to try to stimulate the economy. We have put | :57:57. | :58:02. | |
in place the facilities for banks to try to make that happen and we | :58:02. | :58:06. | |
are working with the private sector to see if they can take on and | :58:06. | :58:10. | |
invest in these infrastructure projects. That is different from | :58:10. | :58:18. | |
the state doing it itself. The it businesses are sitting on vast | :58:18. | :58:21. | |
amounts of money but they do not want to spend it because they seem | :58:21. | :58:26. | |
to have no confidence. How do you turn that around? There is no | :58:26. | :58:32. | |
silver bullet. It is the government at a UK level and the Scottish | :58:32. | :58:42. | |
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level up using the powers they have. Setting back the rates are | :58:43. | :58:48. | |
valuation until 2017 is sending the wrong message. Up with capital | :58:48. | :58:52. | |
spending, we need to sort out the procurement rules because spending | :58:52. | :59:01. | |
a lot of money on capital does not inflict domestic spending - it at | :59:01. | :59:06. | |
nearly helps overseas companies. You have international obligations | :59:06. | :59:11. | |
which require you to go to the cheapest tender or you are at fault | :59:11. | :59:15. | |
yourself as the purchaser. You cannot ring-fence where the | :59:15. | :59:20. | |
contracts ago. You cannot but you can look at things like social | :59:20. | :59:30. | |
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obligations which are permitted under EU rules. If it happens in | :59:30. | :59:35. | |
other countries, it can have him here. Business a business | :59:35. | :59:40. | |
confidence issue? It is crucial and that is why a lot of measures of | :59:40. | :59:47. | |
this government have not worked. On the issue of the shovel already | :59:47. | :59:52. | |
projects, it seems as if George Osborne has given them what they | :59:52. | :59:59. | |
want. We need to start working on the ground. The track record of the | :59:59. | :00:03. | |
SNP Government has not been particularly strong on this and the | :00:03. | :00:06. | |
one thing you do not do in the middle of the recession is cut the | :00:06. | :00:15. | |
housing budget by 40%. People have a terrible choice between these two | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
governments and the need eight different course. Thank you all for | :00:19. | :00:29. | |
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that. Stay tuned for our 2012 President Obama will meet the | :00:39. | :00:49. | |
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families of the genetic it school The body of the nurse who was found | :00:57. | :01:02. | |
hanged after taking a hoax call up from the -- about the Duchess of | :01:02. | :01:09. | |
Cambridge. She will be buried in her home village tomorrow. | :01:09. | :01:13. | |
But have been counted in Egypt following the first round of voting | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
in the referendum on the constitution which has divided the | :01:16. | :01:22. | |
country. Supporters of President Mohamed Morsi say that early | :01:22. | :01:27. | |
indications say the vote will go their way. | :01:27. | :01:32. | |
It has been an unforgettable 12 months for British sport and | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
tonight the winner of the BBC Sports personality of the year will | :01:35. | :01:40. | |
be announced. With so many achievements to choose from, the | :01:40. | :01:50. | |
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short list had to be increased. That is all the news for nowt. | :01:51. | :02:01. | |
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Good afternoon. Up rescuers will bring aboard a damaged bought in | :02:04. | :02:09. | |
which a man died during storms. It is still adrift off the North Sea | :02:09. | :02:14. | |
coast. What has been described as a very | :02:14. | :02:21. | |
complex salvage operation is under way. The ship is drifting without | :02:21. | :02:28. | |
power about 120 miles from Aberdeen. It was 4:30am on Saturday when a | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
Mayday call was picked up from the vessel. The rescue operation was | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
launched including three helicopters been very difficult | :02:36. | :02:42. | |
weather conditions. One crewman has died and his body is still thought | :02:42. | :02:48. | |
to be on board the vessel which has been significantly damaged. Because | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
of the nature of the salvage, the operators are unable to say it when | :02:53. | :03:00. | |
they will get the ship back into port. | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
There is a warning Scotland's new police force of will have debts | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
totalling �100 million. The Scottish Conservatives have raised | :03:08. | :03:13. | |
concerns about the scale of bedecked. The Scottish government | :03:13. | :03:19. | |
have said they will be given funds to service the debt. | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
Three Scots are in contention for the BBC Sports personality of the | :03:23. | :03:28. | |
Year award tonight. Catherine Grainger, Sir Chris Hoy and Andy | :03:28. | :03:38. | |
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Murray and the running. Now it's a A much quieter day of weather | :03:40. | :03:45. | |
coming up. Some brightness with the best of the sunshine in it eastern | :03:45. | :03:52. | |
areas towards the Lothians and the Borders. A few showers in western | :03:52. | :03:58. | |
areas. Temperatures are on the mild side compared with what we have | :03:58. | :04:08. | |
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been used to. Predominantly light It is that time of year again, Iowa | :04:13. | :04:23. | |
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and you look back at the big I don't know why race around me. I | :06:07. | :06:15. | |
am not that special. -- why race around me. -- why are they surround | :06:15. | :06:22. | |
me. The Scottish Government has taken opinion from eminent legal | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
authorities in support of its view that an independent Scotland would | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
continue in membership of the European Union. But we have not | :06:31. | :06:37. | |
sought specific legal advice. But as the Edinburgh agreement provides | :06:37. | :06:42. | |
the exact context we now have the basis from which specific legal | :06:42. | :06:52. | |
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This sum I was called a rebel force I think the �545 million resource | :11:36. | :11:38. | |
budget to �546 million is by definition an increase in funding. | :11:39. | :11:48. | |
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I apologise to the chamber for this I am an expert in tourism. I am the | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
evidence. I am more and expel than the people you would like me to | :11:56. | :12:06. | |
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It is ridiculous! Do not scratch The idea that Scotland is a land | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
where that the thing is if the is alive. Someone always pays for it | :12:24. | :12:34. | |
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In the west wing will be later than patchier. -- rain. There will be | :13:02. | :13:09. | |
snow on a high arc around. There are the potential for a few | :13:09. | :13:19. | |
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flurries or are more will. Who the The picture it but there was Norman | :14:20. | :14:26. | |
Robinson. Joining me right now are Detective Chief the incident ended | :14:26. | :14:35. | |
John Carlin in and professor of economics at Caledonian University. | :14:35. | :14:43. | |
And Professor Tom divine. Welcome to you all. When you look back | :14:43. | :14:45. | |
where we have reached, how significant is the Edinburgh | :14:45. | :14:54. | |
agreement? It has practical implications. More important is the | :14:54. | :15:03. | |
symbolism. The race is on now. But is in no sense in my view a perfect | :15:03. | :15:09. | |
solution to the great national decision. It demonstrates a great | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
democratic deficit. The majority of Scottish people as we speak would | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
favour a for auction. That has not been offered to them. -- a third | :15:18. | :15:23. | |
auction. It is not good enough for politicians to say it would be too | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
difficult to frame that question. They are supposed to be servants of | :15:27. | :15:33. | |
the people. The people are being denied the possibility of that | :15:33. | :15:39. | |
three part of vote. My sense is that, particularly the Labour Party, | :15:39. | :15:44. | |
because the Lib Dems are annihilated in the next election, | :15:44. | :15:50. | |
my belief is that there will be, either in the last year before the | :15:50. | :15:57. | |
decision, say, 2013 of 2014, the Labour Party will begin to shape | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
something like evolution maximum. They will make a solemn contract | :16:01. | :16:06. | |
with the Scottish people that if the UK Government is elected and | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
the Labour tradition then they will deliver in the same way that they | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
will have up evolution. That is the speculation that I shouldn't really | :16:14. | :16:20. | |
make because the future is not my period as everybody knows. But I | :16:20. | :16:25. | |
sense they will have to be something like that. A young person | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
at a debate I wasn't bought and recently asked the basic question, | :16:29. | :16:34. | |
what is going to happen if there is a no vote. I look back to the | :16:34. | :16:40. | |
collective depression that the country had in 1979, there has to | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
be some alternative, especially if the opinion polls keep showing that | :16:44. | :16:50. | |
it has come to be no vote. Within the agreement says that countries | :16:50. | :16:53. | |
will work together constructively in the best interests of the people | :16:54. | :17:03. | |
of Scotland. What is that actually worth when we come into it? Where I | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
work I engage with young people all the time. There heavily politicised | :17:08. | :17:13. | |
at the moment. There are engaged in the debate. But you earlier piece | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
indicates their economic would disenfranchised. They cannot get | :17:17. | :17:20. | |
jobs. The situation with youth unemployment is desperate and will | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
get worse so I think if we are looking at giving youngsters the | :17:25. | :17:29. | |
vote and engaging in a debate we need to give them jobs and the | :17:29. | :17:39. | |
opportunities. That is not happening. Which policies are | :17:39. | :17:49. | |
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making the most impact for you but in alcohol centre stage? Minimum | :17:50. | :18:00. | |
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pricing as a whole population thing. We say, that is not a layer of | :18:01. | :18:09. | |
problem. Without all I think there is an opportunity to do something | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
different around that. But I also think that we're at the stage where | :18:14. | :18:19. | |
there are lots of good things happening. Every time something | :18:19. | :18:24. | |
feels we think it is the strategy that has failed. That need a new | :18:24. | :18:27. | |
plan, a new leader. The truth is that most of the failures up | :18:27. | :18:35. | |
delivery. It needs to be far more about listen to people and | :18:35. | :18:42. | |
communities. And then listened to what they need in delivering | :18:42. | :18:52. | |
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services to suit. Absolutely right. There is too much short-termism. | :18:53. | :19:00. | |
But the other thing, going back to the alcohol aspect, there was a | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
terrible scourge, much greater than we had today, in 19th century | :19:04. | :19:11. | |
cities. Even interventions by charities and the Church had | :19:11. | :19:16. | |
minimal effect. What had the effect was a steep increase in the tax on | :19:16. | :19:23. | |
alcohol. We saw considerable short- term dramatic fall in consumption. | :19:23. | :19:30. | |
The government must press hard along these lines. Accepting what | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
John says, and that the delivery does not need to change day today, | :19:34. | :19:43. | |
if we look at their beck pictures, a fundamental shift, basically, and | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
the whole economic structure, the prediction been that we will not go | :19:47. | :19:52. | |
back to growth, what it needs is a big response, do you think that it | :19:52. | :20:00. | |
response could or should be? That is a difficult question. It is not | :20:00. | :20:09. | |
fair! A couple of the issues in New Brighton, perhaps I'm being a bit | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
flippant at this time of the year, looking at the unemployment figures, | :20:13. | :20:17. | |
things are changing in terms of structural change. If we look at | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
part-time employment those jobs are predominantly going to men. That is | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
very different from before. The piece that you had about Prince | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
Charles to in the weather forecast, maybe that is his second job. | :20:29. | :20:34. | |
Because we're finding that men are taking on second jobs. So the part- | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
time jobs are not the only jobs, their second jobs. That is a | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
fundamental shift in terms of what is happening in their households. | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
Where a woman in that household economy? A further economic system | :20:47. | :20:52. | |
does not recognise why and where men have been two jobs, and we have | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
that leaves woman, we need a fundamental rethink about the best | :20:55. | :21:05. | |
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What is the effect of women becoming increasingly economic | :21:08. | :21:18. | |
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disenfranchised? We have just been speaking about gender equality. How | :21:20. | :21:26. | |
do you define what the role of a man is? You're talking about the | :21:26. | :21:30. | |
notion of equality but they are given it a notion of what is | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
expected of them and that comes off of television and the Internet and | :21:35. | :21:41. | |
pornography, what they think life is. They conform to that and may | :21:41. | :21:46. | |
find life very different -- difficult. We can reduce gang | :21:46. | :21:56. | |
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violence but we cannot get these young people jobs. It has a serious | :21:56. | :22:02. | |
impact an hour worked for next year is redemption. We had one young | :22:02. | :22:07. | |
gang who work for six months and did a fantastic job and then at the | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
end of it they were some pin a job and then found out he had four | :22:12. | :22:17. | |
previous convictions and would not take him on. These were previous | :22:17. | :22:25. | |
convictions for when he was 17 and 18. He is effectively sent down for | :22:25. | :22:34. | |
the rest of his life of up -- his life. He or redemption has a nice | :22:34. | :22:40. | |
ring to it? Especially at this time of year but I think the outlook is | :22:40. | :22:47. | |
not good. The forecasters are telling us that this thing is | :22:47. | :22:52. | |
virtually endless. John is at the sharp end and I am not but what I | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
fear is that thinking back to the 1930s in particular, the emergence | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
of young males who have difficulties with their identities | :23:01. | :23:09. | |
for the reasons he has given. It is the structural under class. Be much | :23:09. | :23:19. | |
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bigger one and a generation will pull even without employment. There | :23:19. | :23:26. | |
is a brighter side as well. If we have been through this in the 1970s, | :23:26. | :23:31. | |
there were much bigger difficulties. The Scottish economy has | :23:31. | :23:36. | |
revolutionised itself over the last 30 years and the employment rate is | :23:36. | :23:42. | |
slightly higher here than it is in England. It is nothing to be proud | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
of because there is a lot of under- employment but the situation would | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
be much worse if the old dinosaurs of the economy were still in place. | :23:51. | :23:58. | |
The economy is much more balanced now. The reason why this happened, | :23:58. | :24:06. | |
and it is always blamed on Thatcher, is that it had been waiting to | :24:06. | :24:15. | |
happen for 30 or 40 years before. The result is that there was horror | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
in the 1980s and 1990s but the result of that is we now have a | :24:19. | :24:26. | |
much more balanced economic system than we had before. It is important | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
that we stuck to think outside of the box because this spring will be | :24:30. | :24:36. | |
long term. We have 10 seconds, what is coming down the road? More | :24:36. | :24:40. |