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complain about the deal they are getting on expenses but many are

angry about the new system. Nadine Tories joins us.

And coming up on Sunday Politics Scotland - 16 and 17-year-olds will

get a vote in next year's referendum on independence, so will they vote

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sympathy. You get 66,000 a year and you earn a decent pension. You can

earn money outside armament. It is not going to get public sympathy, is

it? The public needs of democracy in which MPs can afford to access. The

situation is we will have our parliament which will be full of

millionaires or poppers. It is coming to a situation for MPs cannot

afford to be MPs. I know to MPs are going to stand down because they

cannot afford to be MPs. Who do you blame for this? David Cameron and

Gordon brown because in the last parliament in a process to save

their skins, they agreed to recommendations put forward. It was

a knee-jerk reaction and badly thought through. It costs the

taxpayer a huge amount of money and should never have been agreed to.

understand I am supposed to ask you questions about how much you made

going into the jungle? I have not made anything yet. I do not want to

talk about it in the same way that if I asked you how much you earn

from the British taxpayer by the licence fee including your benefits

in trouble and how much you are paid in this job? You say here and now

how much you get paid and I will tell you how much I get paid.

have been paid nothing to go into the jungle, is that what you are

telling us? I have not smelly benefited from it. I do have a

company in which I write extensively, I do television

appearances extensively and I do get paid. When I benefit personally from

that, I will have to declare it to the register and when I do, I will

do it immediately. Isn't there a difference between you and Andrew

because you're an elected public representative? You took time out of

a paid job I did not, I was on holiday. YouTube time out to go and

do a television programme? Nick, you must tell the truth. Parliament was

on recess when I was in the jungle and I was on holiday. Your job is to

represent your constituents. So I am not allowed to have a holiday?

saying you need to declare it. declare the money that I am paid.

You are public representative. think her expenses for going into

the jungle have been well raked over. What do you think of my idea

that MPs should be paid much more? Do you think your colleagues would

go for that? A salary of say a hundred thousand? Outside earnings

and expenses? I think MPs issued be paid in the same level as GPs and

headteachers. I figured there were no outside earnings probably a large

number of MPs in Parliament today with a bubbly leads. The kind of

able you would attract would be a very different type of person.

are saying if MPs had 100000 and had no outside earnings they would

probably lead? Ella M I think there are more to earn substantially more

than that. For many MPs to give up their outside earnings, you have

people who write books etc. People who spend far more time on the

outside earnings. You are lumbered with it certain, aren't you? I think

we probably are and it needs to become a lot more comfortable.

Welcome to Sunday Politics Scotland. Coming up - young people and the

referendum, we have a new survey which indicates what they make of

the information wars, who influences them and their voting intentions.

think schools have more of an influence than parents. At home

parents boat so that has influenced me more to vote. They want Scotland

to be the safest place in the world for children to grow up. How

realistic is the Scottish Government's lofty ambition? And MPs

behaving badly - white borders cannot recall troublesome

politicians despite repeated promises from the UK government.

Little has been known about the attitudes of young people who will

be eligible to vote next year until now. Major new survey by Edinburgh

University suggests only 21% of 14 to 17-year-olds would vote yes to an

independent Scotland. We have given exclusive access to the results and

I have been back to school to find out more.

At this Academy students are thinking about an historic vote. The

Edinburgh University survey was roadtested here. Pupils helped

define and clarify the questions. The main things we thought about was

how can we make this as easy as possible? We looked at all the

questions and analyse them and came up with ideas as to how to make them

as simple as possible. 94% of those surveys were aware of the referendum

would be held last year, -- next year, and the crunch question should

Scotland be an independent question - in the survey indicates 21% said

yes, 60% said no and 19% were undecided. If anyone was under the

illusion that I giving votes to 16 and 17-year-olds Alex Salmond was

going to unveil a secret weapon, by doing this, then they should be

disabused. This suggests there are is not marked evidence that there is

great support among 16 to seven new -- 17-year-olds. This is a

significant survey. No survey is definitive and we would be delighted

if someone else repeated this. No survey tells us everything, but this

is an indication. There has never been a survey like this before.

the information taken from this will be put to good use. We will supply

materials to schools in Scotland over the next few months so they can

use them in the next academic year. It is not in any sense to indicate

one side or the other but it will give teachers material on what young

people are thinking. Teachers are aware of their responsibilities when

it comes to the referendum. We have to show both sides of the debate but

you have your own opinions and you talk about it with other adults but

when you come into the classroom it is our responsibility to give a fair

and balanced viewpoint. A young people look for information, school

does not compete with social media. Scoop plays a good role but they do

not give you enough about the referendum, not yet. The Internet is

probably were young people get most of their information. Politics is

used more on social networking sites. Online it is easy to look for

what you need and you fight links and you go and find more arguments

and find out about things you would not necessarily look for.

teachers and survey researchers have been impressed that the awareness

and political engagement of young people suggested either survey. We

saw that in school. I am always interested in what is going on

because at this stage in my life, I am leaving school, it is important

to note what is going on and what changes will occur as I get older.

take an active interest in politics. I like to know what is going on in

the country and I take an interest in foreign politics as well. With

young people considering the survey results about identity and parental

influence in their voting, there is plenty to think about before heading

to the polling booth. Joining me now is then Nisbet, one of the students

we saw, a representative from Edinburgh University and Rachel

Ormston. -- then Nesbitt. Were you surprised by the results? What was

surprising was how low the boat was, even lower than what we see in most

of the adult polls. The young people have a strong interest in the survey

and getting more information. Two thirds of the students said

effectively that they want more information before they make a final

decision. Looking at independence, why was the result is so low? Is

there a confidence issue? There is something about not knowing what

will happen and not having the confidence of knowing what an

independent Scotland would be like. It is not so much a strong

conviction, but from the survey, it is a lack of information and

students say that. They want more specific information and they want

to know what is happening in order to make a more informed decision. If

they cannot do this, there is a high proportion of no faults. Rachel, how

does the survey compared to other results we have seen? As my

colleague said, the level of support for a yes vote amongst this age

group is a lot lower than we have seen in other surveys. Typically,

the polls over the last few months have put the yes vote at somewhere

between 28% and 36%, so 21% is a lot lower than that. It was quite

surprising finding, because if there is an age pattern amongst adults,

tends to be amongst the older age group who are least supportive of

independence. Young adults tend to be more supportive, but 14 to

17-year-olds are not conforming to that. It is interesting that younger

adults are not conforming. They tend to to be more liberal in their

views. I think it is a lack of certainty in what the consequences

would be, how sure you are about what independence means? That is

something that is linked with adults and how likely they are to vote yes

no. We often hear that adult abuse from the usual suspects and it is

interesting to hear from you, then. It is interesting and table wanted

to listen more, especially on social media. There has never been much

continuity so maybe one campaign says one thing and on the other

campaign they are saying something else. It needs clarification amongst

young people and what they want. What was the research indicating

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based on this. Query to you go for information? Information can be

accessed anywhere. You can discuss with your parents and family and

this can be a place to spark up debate. Social media is a growing

force we find this and it is interesting. Independence for

Scotland is a completely new idea. In schools, many of the contemporary

issues we face there may not be events on the horizon we could

change. With this referendum, now we have the chance to vote, that shows

a real power behind young people. you discuss the referendum with your

friends at school? It is exciting. Because it is categorical in its

nature, it means people have to decide so many times have been spent

discussing with my peers at about what is happening. The real

engagement seems to be there and it has taken us by surprise. It is

usually the case that young adults are a little less interested in

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politics. It is important and categorical. What are the scenarios

By it was evident from the fact that the suggested one 5th of young

people have still to make up their minds. It says I am not confident

about making a decision. Two-thirds are saying, I have made a decision,

but that could change if I get further information. Many young

people are willing to take information on board and I think

that is encouraging. Are you feeling fortunate that you can take

part in this debate? Yes, it is an amazing opportunity. It is

something that will change Scotland for ever. It is new ground for

Scotland to cover. This has not been looked at properly for

hundreds of years. It is a great opportunity. Do you get quite

heated almost when you have these discussions? It can get heated. We

are not putting each other down. We are seeking clarity and an

agreement on what will happen. is interesting to have this

evidence. Do you think it might be replicated by someone else? This is

certainly the first time, as far as I am aware, that there has been a

serious attempt to look at the views of 14 to 17-year-olds in

Scotland. I would hope that there will be further surveys of this age

group in the run-up to the referendum. Thank you all very much

for joining us. Now, there was positive news this

week when it came to child welfare. A Care Inspectorate report said

authorities are getting better at protecting at-risk children. It is

a difficult and sensitive issue but the Scottish Government is aiming

high, saying they want Scotland to be the best place in the world for

children to grow up. Craig Anderson has more.

The inspectors' report will make relatively comfortable reading for

social work departments. It recognises that staff understand

the corrosive employment of chronic poor parenting, neglect and

emotional abuse. The report recognises the help given by other

bodies him alerting social work staff to signs of abuse. Systems

have a set up to ensure a high degree of contact with parents and

children once it those youngsters had been placed on the child

protection register. People who are in charge of services to protect

children are working together. People who see children every day,

like health visitors and teachers, are much more willing to come

forward when they have concerns about children. But the inspectors

say there is still room for improvement. For children who are

approaching that threshold, they might not be having enough contact

with social workers. There is a growing awareness about the impact

of neglect on children. We are committed to getting it right with

every child. It is about making sure that we are intervening in

family life early enough to make a difference. We do not want to get

to the stage of children having to be looked after. Another key

recommendation is that social services should act faster one so

they decide that children should be removed from their home. A

permanent home is vital if children are to develop and flourish.

I'm joined now in the studio by Anne McTaggart, the Scottish Labour

MSP and by Stewart Maxwell the SNP MSP.

Good morning. A very positive report, things are obviously going

well in this sector. By the Scottish government do what

Scotland to be the best place for children to grow up. We must not be

complacent. This is a very good report and highlights many

improvements across many areas. They have been positive results and

much better multi- agency working they may have seen in the past. But

there are still problems. For example, children who are suffering

from neglect but two were just below the threshold so they are not

being bought to the attention of services quickly enough.

Scottish government are co- ordinating the agencies quite well.

Yes, they are. But there is still room for improvement. There are

still children who are below that threshold level that still need to

be looked at and given a service. The Care Inspectorate were pointing

out that child care is everyone's responsibility. Social workers,

police, members of the public as well. Is that important to

remember? It is one of the most important changes over the last few

years, the coming together of these agencies. In the past, there was a

problem were health might identify someone, but police and social

workers have no idea. We are beginning to see some positive

changes in that regard. It is important that we look forward. In

Parliament, we have to get her teeth into the new children Bill

that has been introduced. If we get that right, we will see further

improvement in the future. Is there still a problem about children who

fall through the cracks, who have come off the register, who have

missed the threshold for getting on the register? Yes, there is.

However, we have got to congratulate the health agencies

and all those who work more closely together. Education, police, they

are all coming together to try to identify these young people that

you are talking about. But it is important to recognise the

Invisible children. We need to identify and multi-agency approach.

It can be very difficult to identify the children. It is almost

inevitable that some children would fall through the cracks according

to the Care Inspectorate. But you cannot accept that. Do you have a

pragmatic view that there may be children who fall through the gaps

and there is very little that the authorities can do? There is no

system in the world that anyone can produce that will guarantee

absolute protection of all children. That is impossible. What we can do

is improve things. But there are children who are being missed. They

are suffering long-term neglect. But there is no single incident

that brings them to the attention of support mechanisms. But there

are particular groups, children with learning disabled parents, for

children with parents who have addiction problems, and they are

not getting the attention they require. That is one thing we must

focus on. That is why we have this you programme to make sure that

inspections take a broader look at children, rather than focus on a

narrow group. It can be very difficult for social workers to

identify these children? I totally agree. There is not a politician

who would not agree. The new approach and the aspirations in the

new Bill totally agree with that. It is a super way to move forward.

However, if we are not going to fund local authorities to enable us

to highlight that service and to produce that service, to support

some of the staff and the communities to enable us to try and

ensure that is done. But the services are very expensive? What

concerns are there in the sector about funding and cuts? At no point

in history have people said there is enough funding. Every pressure

is -- every budget is under pressure. That is why we have to

look at how the services work together and bring them together in

a more efficient manner. I think we can make progress. Local-government

has had an increasing share of the Scottish government budget. At

times there have been cuts... it is very difficult with the

council tax freeze. The council tax freeze is funded from the Scottish

government. But over and above that, the share of the Scottish budget

has increased over the period that the SNP has been NPower. That has

been of benefit to their social services. But cuts from whence Mr

will have an impact. -- cuts from Westminster. People are aware that

things have to be done differently. But I do not agree with them that

government, local government, has to take what they get. It is

totally impractical. The services that are there just now, they are

struggling to deal with what they have to do with just now. That is

without pudding those and people who are already in contact with

social services who are not already on the register. There is a range

of young people are still the bus on early years intervention and

making sure that children do not suffer more neglect. It will be more

efficient. Let us turn our attention to the story at the top of the

programme? Your reaction to the Edinburgh University survey that 21%

of young people would vote yes to our independent Scotland. It is an

interesting poll. A poll two weeks ago showed that amongst the younger

age group the split was roughly 50-50 in terms of yes and no. You

will get different results with different surveys but what is

important is the fact that when people come to vote, they will look

at individual questions. They will think do they want Scotland to

control welfare, benefits and taxation except? When it comes to

the boat, those are the choices people will make and they will

choose a positive future and vote yes. You heard people talking about

the lack of information? Could? Could there be more information?

Scottish Government has said it will publish a number of papers leading

up to the final paper towards the end of the year. There is lots more

information to come and those young people said they could be swayed in

terms of the boat. They will definitely get the information they

need and in the end, I am sure they will vote yes. Thank you both very

much. Coming up after the news - MPs

behaving badly, but what can be done? Legislation to deal with

misbehaving MPs was part of the coalition agreement but has been

kicked into the long grass. We will discuss that and we will also look

at the big stories of the week. You are watching Sunday Politics

Scotland and now it is time for a news up date.

Good afternoon. The latest official figures indicate that more pregnant

women in Scotland are trying to stop smoking. Last year the NHS in

Scotland recorded just under 3000 attempts by pregnant women to stop.

The Scottish Government says women will now be offered carbon monoxide

monitoring early in their pregnancy to check the levels of exposure to

cigarette smoke. It is a simple breath test. Carbon monoxide is

exhaled if women are smokers in a certain amount. There is a sensitive

equipment that will account as level of carbon monoxide that we feel is

dangerous. We know that in combination with women being advised

and referred to smoking stopping clinics, has been shown as a

combination of interventions that are successful. Reports of salts in

young children in the Fortwilliam area are being investigated. It is a

merged -- it has emerged that a 28 euros man been arrested in

connection with the inquiry and a report is being prepared.

A survey of teenagers eligible to vote for the first time in the

referendum vote says most do not think that Scotland should be

independent. 94% of 14 to seven new -- 17-year-olds surveyed were not

aware that are referendum will be held next year is 60% said no to

independence and just over one and said they believed Scotland should

be an independent country and 20% were undecided. Just over 1000

people were questioned by researchers for Edinburgh

University. As 15-year-old boy is in hospital

after falling down a cliff in Aberdeenshire. The accident happened

and at Castle ruins early yesterday evening. The leaves have issued a

warning over what they say is the hazardous conditions in the area.

In Iqbal, the Scotland manager Gordon Strachan says it's our huge

disappointment to be without the cap on for the World Cup qualifying

match in Croatia. He is on the sidelines and the Hibernian striker

in -- striker Leigh Griffiths is fit to travel. Time for a weather

will be misty and murky around the coast. Tomorrow it will be dry and

bright, particularly further east. Along the West Coast it will be

misty and murky. That is all for now.

I will be back with more news later. Now back to Sunday Politics

Now back to Sunday Politics Scotland. Patrick Mercer's

resignation of the flip has raised accusations that MPs are behaving

badly. A bill was promised by the coalition government but despite

high profile cases north and south of the border, nothing has

happened. Our Political Correspondent has asked why?

Remember this? Flipping MPs abusing the expenses system. They had the

cheek to try and keep it all secret until the courts stepped in. People

are dismayed. If an MP has done something seriously wrong that has

been proved, people should have the right to sack them and a sack them

now. A change in the law allowing people -- voters to force a

by-election was part of the caller illusion agreement. The government

published proposals to allow for recall if an MP was sent to jail or

of other MPs thought it was appropriate. For some people, that

does not go far enough. I would like the people to be able to decide.

That is the only way the right of recall is going to be anything but a

paper tiger. These proposals are a designed as such and will frighten

and very few MPs. A lot of water has flowed under the bridge. A bill of

recall was conspicuous by its absence from the Queens Speech. No

one at Westminster expected move any time soon until this happened.

Patrick Mercer's decision to stay on despite resigning the Tory whip over

cash for questions allegations has brought the issue back to the front

pages as has the ongoing issue surrounding this MP, suspended by

Labour last year. Those eager for reform are sceptical that recall is

the right course of action. It is not a tool for the public, it is a

tool for the really wealthy, elite people, or big political players who

spend lots of money running huge campaigns. For ordinary people to be

able to finance or organise such a campaign would be a huge jump.

Walker's suspension from the SNP following allegations of domestic

abuse has raised the issue at Holyrood. It is constituents will

not be able to sack him before the 2016 election. There are two

franchises in operations here. It would be very hard with the regional

board, which is designed to be proportional or two top up the

constituency elections, and at the moment, there is no possibility for

a by-election in the region, so if an MSP resigns, then the next person

down the list in the party gets elected and we saw that recently in

Aberdeen. It would be a big change for Holyrood to introduce this.

If the enthusiasm or the political class for people power is

diminished, the anger over errant MPs has not. All the tissues remain

divided over the right of recall and we are stuck with the politicians we

have got, for the moment. We are joined by John Finnie, the former

SNP MSP and he is now an independent and we have the Labour MP for

Edinburgh South, Ian Murray. Ian Murray, in Bristol, how necessary is

the right to recall? It is important to give able the power to be able to

determine whether the member of Parliament should stay on. Your

article mentioned Patrick Mercer. What we are left with at the moment,

is not just parties having to determine whether or not the elected

officials stay in their positions, but individuals themselves. Eric

Joyce has been thrown out of the Labour Party and he is no longer a

Labour member of Parliament, it is left with that individual to decide

whether he should stay on and I think legislation should be brought

in to ensure it's the people who elect these people have the decision

whether they wish these people to continue. How optimistic are you

about this legislation coming in? Francis Maude said earlier it was in

the coalition agreement? He is being slightly disingenuous. It has been

in many parties's manifesto. The government has had an opportunity to

legislate for this and bring the legislation in and they are not

doing it. It has been suggested that there will be a campaign run against

Nick Clegg over his broken promises. John Finnie, there has been a lot of

talk at Westminster at about this but not at Holyrood? How necessary

is the right of recall for Holyrood? It is only proper that the public

feel they are adequately represented by people of integrity. I have read

the report and I think there are challenges. Committee members have

said it was not evidence that this within hounds public opinion, and it

was here that it could raise potential that could not be

realised. There are challenges connected with the procedure when it

has been used in other jurisdictions. Do we want elected

representatives to be of high integrity? There have been knee-jerk

reactions and legislation is following the expenses scandal and

there was anger in the streets, quite understandably. It is

important we get the legislation right. It has to be fair to the

individual and third to the public and that means an exhaustive

process. That could take more than the duration than a period of

government. Do you think you should have been recalled by your

electorate when you resigned from the SNP? You resigned in the row

over NATO? I do think -- do not think that is the case. I was

elected as a manifesto and that gave a clear commitment and without

reference to the public, the party whose list I was on to their

decision. I do not subscribe to the view. I saw one political

commentators say it was the people who changed the fundamental policy.

They also in the House of Commons report, say there is no substitute

for elections and I think that is the case. I am very open-minded

about the recall issued what one of the frailties is there potential for

it to be hijacked. It is like Donald Trump hijacking events in the

north-east of Scotland! mentioned the possibility of Nick

called being -- Nick Clegg being recalled because of broken promises?

Is this not sent the rough-and-tumble of daily politics?

What John has just said about his own situation is that he should not

have been recalled, but the entire SNP for changing its policies! If we

want to instil new trust in politicians and politics, we have to

give power to the people to be able to make those choices. They make

those choices at the ballot box. If they think those choices are bad,

and the legs did representative acts badly, they should have the power to

be able to recall that member of Parliament. It is clear that rules

would we complicated. The report from the committee showed that this

was a complex issue and all parties are committed to doing this. If we

come to an agreement that will work, we can make it work. Do you think it

would be sensible to recall? We this is about the integrity that people

expect and there is no substitute for elections. The frailty of the

process is that if you apply for this across-the-board, then any

appeal system, if you talk about the significant issues of financial

irregularities, I tell you there are This was to instil public

confidence. Confidence includes participation of course. We want to

see the maximum participation. just want to get your reaction to

the survey of young people that we have seen. 21% supporting

independence in that survey. But it looked as if there is a big

potential for done people to change their minds? The survey has shown

what people are telling me that my visit schools. This is not the

issue they are interested in. Whilst Scotland is on pause,

obsessed by this constitutional issue, young people are saying to

me that the Scottish Government is asking them to take a risk with

their future when the other issues have not been mapped out. Young

people want jobs, they want a secure and stable future. They want

to be able to come into an education system at that age,

flourished for the future. But Alex Salmond is saying to young people,

take a risk with your future. Young people in that survey have given a

very clear message to Alex Salmond. The thank you both. Now in a moment,

we will be discussing the big events coming up this week at

Holyrood but, first, let's take a look back at the week in Sixty

Seconds. The Scottish government announced

it would press ahead with plans for same-sex marriage, introducing

legislation in the next month. People are waiting longer than ever

in Scottish Accident and Emergency departments.

The Health Secretary Alex Neil said there is more to be done. Across

Scotland as a whole, the figure is 92%. It is not as high as I would

like to see it, but it is moving in the right direction. We need to get

to 95 of they said. The Pope's representative in Britain said

Cardinal Cathal Bryan had made mistakes but also did a lot of good

work. Lawyers have advised Scottish

universities that it may be legal to carry on charging fees.

Campaigners have cold for a memorial to Mary Barbour.

-- called. That was the week that was. Now let's take a look at the

week ahead. This week I'm joined in the studio by the journalists

Maurice Smith and Anna Burnside. First of all, the young people's

serve it. Researchers coming up with interesting facts and figures.

Quite surprising that so few of the young people seem to be excited

about independence. You would think that everything about youth,

optimism, I would have got more of them would have been enthusiastic

about it. There is still so much to play for. They are open minded

about it. I was surprised by these results. It was quite surprising

and still a lot to play for. Yes, I was surprised as well. Perhaps it

disappointing for the yes campaign at this stage. But it is very early.

You can see a sense that they may be reflecting general opinion, the

opinion of people around them, that they do not have enough information.

They may be weary of the debate in this current phoney war staters.

They are trying to get accurate sources of information? That came

out from the figures and also that lovely, articulate young man that

you had on the programme. That is what they want, some clarity and

some facts. They do not like the nonsense. They want to get an idea

of what is happening. I was very encouraged by what Dr Jan Eichhorn

was same, that the understand it cannot be signed, sealed and

delivered, but they want to look at the different scenarios. They want

to do with this on quite a higher level. More adult wars going on in

the papers again today. This Sunday Herald has got quite a striking

headline. It is an interesting report about the UK's dysfunctional

economy. I would say, they are pro- independence without being pro SNP.

Especially on the economic side of the argument. It is very

interesting what Margaret Cuthbert has done here. She has laid out the

economic details behind the rhetoric. Many of us who remember

the debate in the 1970s and 1980s will be familiar with that, but we

have not heard this question in the debate recently, this whole

question of London's influence on the rest of the UK economy.

response from Better Together, they did not pick up on the London point,

they just said you could be excluding your biggest market.

to me, the Better Together of response did not strike me as

interesting about that report. It just seemed a bit thrown away at

the end of it. I think it is great to hear those arguments. I would

like these children who do the survey to read this kind of thing.

That is what we are leading. Looking ahead to this week, we are

going to discuss the Scottish Conservative conference next week.

The Scots Tory leader slaps down Scots critics. She is having quite

a tough ride in the press these last few days. The party does not

seem to be behind her? No, not long after she became leader, she seemed

to have gained some unity, but the cracks appearing. -- or appearing.

What is the issue with Ruth Davidson, is it her performance?

Why is she not getting us support from her MSPs? If I knew that, I

would move into political consulting. I do not know... It is

a poisoned chalice. I do not think you can play that might just now.

The party is so divided. It is being attacked on so many fronts. I

do not think it knows what it wants as leader to do. In at this Sunday

Times, this is quite a scandal. We have been discussing it the right

to recall. What did you make of that conversation we just have?

Both are quite keen on it. Yes, politicians are quite keen on doing

these things. But not keen on implementing them. It seems strange

that we are going round in a circle you. We had the expenses scandal,

and here we are, three years later, not a move has been made. The

public are going to look at this very sceptically. Our you sceptical

about it? I am not sure if it could work. We would have to be very

careful it did not just become another annoying way for interest

groups to give politicians are a hard time. I have mixed feelings

about it. The chance of that happening just now or slight.

are slight. It could be used maliciously? Yes, how do you

legislate for that? It could only be used in deserving cases and not