30/06/2013 Sunday Politics Scotland


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Morning, folks. Welcome to the Sunday Politics timewarp edition!

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It's back to the '70s, as Britain faces the threat of power blackouts.

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We'll ask the Energy Minister how he will keep the lights on. And

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it's back to the '80s with Labour, as right clash with left amid

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claims that comrades at Unite are trying to take the party over from

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the inside. We go to Falkirk where it has all been kicking off.

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And if you got a P45 tomorrow, could you wait a week for welfare?

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That is the Government's plan. But is it fair? The two sides go head

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to head. And in Scotland: the actor Brian

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Cox will be live in the studio to talk about playing a politician on

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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1681 seconds

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the small screen versus getting If people have no savings, they can

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go -- they can get help. There is a massive increase in the use of the

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banks. There are six jobseekers for every vacancy. Taking away money

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from people will not make it easy. That is scaremongering. When people

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first Gaiman to -- when we first Sweden's benefits are three times

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as generous. We have some of the least generous benefits in the EU.

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In Scandinavia, using the social security system does not leave a

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person destitute in the way that benefits in the UK do. Let me

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interrupt you. Let me show you what the TaxPayers' Alliance has said.

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We think the Government is doing excellent work on welfare reform,

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particularly in times of making work pay. But there is one concern

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we have. There is this idea that it will dissuade people from taking on

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work. It is something that needs to I do not believe it will. A bug is

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not logical you would not look for temporary work again very quickly?

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Would that not be logical in this position? You would wait to be able

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to sign on, would you not? I think it depends on how we make sure we

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get the detail right on this. already have a three-day wait.

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point about the seven-day wait policy is it will do what Labour

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and the Conservatives want to avoid in the benefits system, of which is

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make it less attractive for people who are already living on the

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breadline seeking work to take on the short term contracts which are

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the only work people can find. Balls was prepared to go along with

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it. At every focus group disagrees with the government and the

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opposition. It seems it is politicians who do not have any

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idea of what is going on. Is it worth looking at the nasty party

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again? I have built a business where we lived on the breadline for

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the first 12 months because we had to use credit cards to keep the

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business going. That is not the same as being on the minimum wage.

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But the idea that you think about work first is a good one. People

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who do not have jobs think about work 247, and making them more

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could has no way to help them into jobs that aren't there. Where are

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the jobs you are creating? Coming up in 20 minutes, I will be

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Welcome to Sunday Politics Scotland. Coming up: BMA award-winning actor

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Brian Cox will be live in the studio. -- the in the award-winning

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actor. They 200th bill of the Scottish

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parliament has been signed by the Queen, but how has Holyrood

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performed in the 14 years? What's cuts and hard choices as austerity

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continues. Austerity showed how the UK

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continues to struggle. George Osborne's failure to cut the

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deficit in time ironically means he has locked down Labour into hard

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choices. I have been digesting what the Chancellor set out.

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It was not any old Aga. It was a luxury bar go. -- burger. The

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Chancellor set out �11.5 billion of cuts for 2015/2016. It looks as if

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Labour will stick to the spending plans if they regain power. As a

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consequence of the UK Chancellor choosing to ring-fence or keep NHS

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and not award it any supportive allegation, that support Scotland

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because every penny in England, Scotland gets its Barnett formula

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consequence O'Shea's. Critic point out that it is a

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shrinking portion. In capital Part of the challenge for people

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looking at the numbers regularly is it is not absolutely clear quite

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what big net position is going to be. It is clear Scotland has been

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given additional borrowing capacity but it is not clear whether a but

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as a supporting capital spend. it is not clear where it will go.

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Will it go here? Anyone who wants to take forward a serious programme

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of beneficial reform has to recognise the importance of taking

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the workforce with a us. And walked off George Osborne's beefburger?

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Maybe it ended up in the bin, like his growth figures.

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Joining me is Stewart Hosie, and in Aberdeen Sir Malcolm Bruce, and in

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Glasgow I am joined by Labour Shadow Treasury Minister Cathy

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Jamieson. Good morning. First of you, -- first of all, over

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to you, Sir Malcolm Bruce. He borrows more than he intends to,

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and does not inspire a growth. He is the static Chancellor. What we

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know as the previous Labour government presided over the

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biggest collapse in the industrial capacity, economic capacity, since

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the war. It has been difficult to try to rebuild that. There are some

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signs of recovery beginning to creep in, but the truth is we have

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not had to deal with the deficit, but we have also cut taxes by

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raising the tax threshold and increased pensions. That is part of

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the reason why we have not been able to cut the death -- cut the

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deficit as much as we wish. Stewart Hosie, Scotland is not having the

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same luck. The resource budget has been cut by less than the rest of

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the country. It is �333 million, even though it is only 2%. That is

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in addition to the 6.5% cut we had in the last spending review, and in

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addition to the capital cut we hadn't the last spending review. In

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terms of capital spend, the conventional capital allocation is

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down. The so-called extra money is loans that have agreed in the

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Scotland Act, and funny Money financial transactions in the

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Budget. As part of George Osborne's ongoing narrative, he has failed so

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far in. There is not that money available for capital spending. The

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Scottish Government have new borrowing powers, so perhaps they

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can be used to fund new projects. The Scottish futures trust has been

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slow in getting on and making new project happen. I am sure the new

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borrowing powers will be used, but the capital programme in Scotland

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remains unchanged at to 0.5 billion. -- 2.5. Cathy Jamieson, a lot of

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people said the Spending Review was a political shade but there to put

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Labour into a cocked hat. -- charade. It has been frustrating

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this week to try to find out what is Labour's position on borrowing?

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It is unclear. First of all, the spending review has come about as a

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direct result of the Chancellor and Prime Minister being unable to

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deliver on what they said they would do in terms of getting the

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deficit down. They are borrowing more than they said they would, and

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the impact is being felt across the UK with people feeling their living

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standards squeezed. We will face some difficult times in 2015 if we

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are back in government. There is no doubt about that. We will look at

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the overall spending plans and live within that for the first year, but

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we have not ruled out the option of borrowing for investment. We

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believe the Chancellor should have brought forward some of the

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infrastructure projects now, rather than waiting another two years down

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the line. So Labour would borrow more? This is the problem because

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people are saying, will you or want you? What we are saying is we will

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in order to be responsible, keep within the overall spending limit,

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but we have not ruled out bringing forward additional investment plans

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for borrowing if that is the right thing to do, but we will not be

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borrowing to pay for day-to-day expenditure because they have

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failed to get growth backed into the economy. This has also been

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called an opportunity for John -- George Osborne. Would you expect

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people to wait seven days before people can claim benefits? We have

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made some massive reforms to tax, cutting 24 million people stacks

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and boosting pensions by the biggest level ever, and ensuring

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non-work related benefits are protected as part of the difficulty

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we have in getting the deficit down. Growth has not been coming forward

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us we would have wished. But those who say that we should spend our

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way out of this should be careful of what the markets might do and

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what it might do to interest rates. They should also recognise that

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where there is growth beginning to come back in the oil and gas sector,

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that instead of knocking it, they should encourage it. Building

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confidence is the best way to build growth. Stewart Hosie, maybe you

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have to rein in spending, and Mr Swinney gave me that clear hint on

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Wednesday that the automatic pay increase would not be ended in

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Scotland for civil servants. Any news on that? I think his hint was

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strong enough. In terms of what Malcolm said, if there is good news,

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I welcome it. We have got to understand that this Government are

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planning to cut �155 billion a year out of the economy in tax rises and

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cuts. The proportion of cuts to tax rises is four-to-one. That means

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the Government are planning to rebalance the books on the back of

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the poor, in a way that they do so much consumption out of the economy

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that he is trying to cut his way to growth. The debate within the

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government was that Conservatives wanted to cut for the the welfare

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budgets but the Liberal Democrats refused to do it. -- to cut further.

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Cathy Jamieson, Stewart Hosie was pointing out the changes to welfare.

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Many Labour supporters would be horrified at what Ed Balls is it

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said thing. -- accepting. We will need to look at the money we have

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available and make it fairer. We have not said we will take any

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action that will put more people in the hands of the loan sharks. The

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present government can not have it all ways. At the same time, they

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are giving tax breaks to millionaires, which does not see

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sensible. Let us look to another item making the news today. It is

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the latest paper from the UK Treasury. Sir Malcolm Bruce, it has

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been claimed that Scots may have to face roaming charges if there is

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independence on the mobile phones. A Tory MP says some of the

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arguments against independence are becoming silly. Some of them are

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real. If you have a single market and break it up there are potential

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consequences that could increase costs. I have not seen this paper,

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but I think it is suggesting that breaking up the single market in

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telecommunications and broadband could have implications. If you

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remove the Universal Postal Service from Scotland because you take

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Scotland out of the UK, the chances are you will not be able to send a

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package or a letter from John o'Groats to Land's End for next-day

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delivery at a flat rate. You cannot do it between Ireland and the UK.

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There are real issues here which need to be considered. It is like

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unscrambling an omelette. There are a lot of difficulties. Stewart

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Hosie, Sir Malcolm picks out the wider issue that if there is

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independence there could be difficulties with Telecom

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indications and the postal service. This is just more scaremongering

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nonsense. Let us look at the issues in the story. We have higher mobile

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phone charges which the European Union are about to outlaw. And

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between a liberal, a Tory and Labour MSP, they signed up to the

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Scottish Parliament motion welcoming that. This is simply

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wrong. In relation to the Post Office, the only threat comes from

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UK governments. These people have shut 400 post offices in the last

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10 years. Hang on, be protected them. 400 have been closed! There

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will be a proper postal service in Scotland, and we will do everything

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we can to preserve this. Roaming charge is about to go. This is a

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rather silly scare story from the project fear people. The good news

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is no one is listening to them any more. There are serious issues that

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Scotland want answers to. John Swinney says one thing in public

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while the work he is doing in the background says something else.

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People deserve answers on pensions, passports and a whole range on

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other a dash of other thing is. want to pick up another final issue.

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Scottish Labour's financial spokesperson was sacked in the

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latest reshuffle. He said about Johann Lamont, disagreements we may

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have run the direction in which the party is headed. Is there a war

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within the party? No, Johann Lamont has a good team of people around

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her, now look forward to working with her. -- I look forward. I

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Note one Scotland 's most famous exports. Brian Cox has come a long

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way from his career started in Dundee. He has spoken at the launch

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of the Yes campaign. I have got a few parasites on me. There are few

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people wanting to take me for a ride and maybe there are few trying to

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send me to the glue factory. This was Brian Cox working in his native

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Dundee for the first time in decades. He took on the role of a

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self-styled people 's champion. Campaigning in his unique style as

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an independent candidate in a by-election. The city of Dundee has

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played a big part in shaping Brian Cox 's outlook and continues to have

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a strong influence on his beliefs. He now lives in America where he has

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gone on to establish himself as one of Scotland 's greatest actors. But

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despite his Hollywood success, he is increasingly drawn back to Scotland.

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He retains a keen interest in issues here. Recently he gave his backing

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to the equal marriage legislation and he is a firm supporter of

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independence for Scotland, describing himself as a democratic

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socialist he spoke at the launch of the Yes Scotland campaign. we have

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arrived at the moment to realise our potential. Please, let us not

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wasted. so, can we expect to see and hear more of Brian Cox in Scotland

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over the next 12 months? I am elated to see that Brian Cox

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joins me live in the studio. -- delighted. You grew up in Dundee.

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Did you ever imagine how your career would end up? not a clue. It has

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been such a surprise. The irony is that when I was a kid I used to look

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at the River Tay and think, I want to get over there. Now I come the

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other way and think, I cannot wait to get back on the Dundee side. I

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had no idea. But it was important for you to go down to London when

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you were quite young to get your career going. It is very

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different... We are talking 50 years ago. It was a very different world.

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Scotland really has... I do not think that people really realise how

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much Scotland has come into its own in the last 50 years. When I was a

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child it was very much in North Britain. It was post-Warren and it

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was tough for everybody. Then there was this great period of social

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mobility in the 1960s and I was a product of that myth of social

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mobility and so I went to study my craft. -- that atmosphere of social

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mobility. London was the same distance to me as Glasgow was, so I

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went there and had a great time studying. and then things took off

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in Hollywood. yes, they did. I did not go to Hollywood until I was

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nearly 50. I always wanted to do movies. That was my influence as a

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child. Dundee was historically known as having more cinemas than any

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other town in Scotland. At one time in my life I visited all of them.

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That was the kind of actor I wanted to be, it wanted to be a film actor.

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And then I realised that because I worked in the theatre, I started

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work at the Dundee Rep. There was talk about the British film

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industry. There was a television industry, but there was never a film

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industry as such. I decided to make the move to America in the mid-19

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90s. You are being drawn to Scotland more. What attracts you to the

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Scottish roles? You still have the Hollywood career. His work dried up?

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In Scottish culture, the East Coast does not get represented very well.

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There is not a lot of east coast humour. East Coast tumour is very

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different from West Coast humour. We have seen all the great West Coast

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comedians but there was never anything about the East and Dundee.

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It is a very particular, surreal kind of humour. The writer is from

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Broughty Ferry and he seemed to capture something extraordinary.

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saw you speak at the launch of the Yes campaign, where I saw you

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describe yourself as a democratic socialist. Do you have any

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particular attachment to a party? You are in favour of independence of

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course. I am not. I'm very much not a Scottish Nationalists did they

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think that people should see the issue in terms of... I think that

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people get confused. We're not talking about Scottish National is,

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we are talking about Scottish independence. They are two entirely

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different issues. It happens that the Scottish Nationalists have taken

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up the pattern, but I come from a social democratic position. I come

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from a position of experience. I lived in London for 40 years. It is

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living in the south and seeing what has happened in England. I am a

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federalist. I watched Leslie Redeker put weeks ago. I was impressed with

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what she said about that. How do you think that the Yes campaign has

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performed over the last year? doing relatively well. But on both

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campaigns, the no campaign, there is a lot of fear being thrown out which

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is needless. I think we have tried to be honest in the Yes campaign. We

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do not tell lies. I was watching a clip of you in Braveheart. It is

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very much the nationalism of the heart as opposed to the head. How

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can you attract people to independence, head or heart, what

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makes the difference? It has to be a balance of both. We balance our

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ahead and our heart. Life is made up that way. The whole thing of

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Scottish independence has come to me... I was never for that when I

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was a child. I was never for that in my 20s. But having seen how the poor

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have got poor and the rich have got richer and that seems to be across

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these islands, I think it is time to start again and I think an

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independent Scotland as a way of starting again. It is also something

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which is about the particular as well as about the general. I am an

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internationalist, but I believe in their particular element of what

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Scottish independence represents. was when you went to London that you

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felt that you were a Scot? really feel it, I was from Dundee.

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That is very different from being a Scot! But going there, I suddenly

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realised what Scotland was about. I loved my time in London, but even

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now living in London, it is a great place, but we have become so focused

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on London. The healthiest thing for it Great Britain would be to have a

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parliament that was not based in London but was based somewhere else.

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We are heading to the news in a moment. Then we will look at the 200

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act of Swiss Scottish Parliament becoming law. -- of the Scottish

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Parliament. What has Holyrood ever done for you? No time for the news.

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between Pakistan and Afghanistan was of vital importance. He said that

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Britain and Pakistan had a shared interest in establishing a stable,

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peaceful and democratic Afghanistan. the friends of Pakistan are friends

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of Britain. Enemies of Pakistan are enemies of Britain. We will stand

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together and conduct this fight against extremism and terrorism

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together. I have assured Prime Minister Cameron of our firm resolve

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to promote the objective of a stable and peaceful Afghanistan. So that

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those currently living in Pakistan can return with honour and dignity.

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David Cameron also hopes his visit here will provide more opportunities

:57:43.:57:47.

for British businesses. Building on the historic and cultural ties

:57:47.:57:53.

between the two countries. He has announced a new goal of �3 billion

:57:53.:57:58.

in bilateral trade by 2015. There have been press accusations

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about the extent of spying by America 's National Security

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Agency, this time involving the European Union. The former CIA

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contractor Edward Snowden told a German newspaper that millions of

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German phone calls have been monitored, as well as e-mails. Today

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marks the first anniversary of President Mohammed Morsi 's election

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in Egypt. There is predicted to be demonstrations in support and

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against his leadership. The Rolling Stones and their legions

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of fans are recovering this morning after they completed their first

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ever appearance at the Glastonbury Festival.

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The band played for over two hours, with the Glastonbury organiser

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describing it as his highlight of the 43 years of organising the

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event. The three-day festival ends this weekend.

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Good morning. The UK government is to claim that Scottish independence

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with lead to more phone users here facing higher bills. In his

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statement looking at the impact of a Yes vote, it raises the possibility

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of Scottish callers facing roaming fees when they visit England. It is

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also claimed that independence could threaten postal services and rope

:59:35.:59:43.

broadband position. Scottish consumers benefit from UK wide

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postal and telephone networks. We know that it costs more to provide

:59:46.:59:52.

the services to rural areas, but across the UK we benefit from

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economies of scale and spreading that cost. An independent Scotland

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would have a higher proportion of rural, sparsely populated areas, and

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so the cost of posting a letter or your mobile phone bills could go up.

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to terror bills are due to be demolished in Dundee today. They

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have stood at the top of the city 's held town for 40 years. Nearby homes

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have been evacuated and 20 wrote in the area have been closed. The

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congregation at St Martin's Episcopal Church which stands

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between the two buildings are worshipping elsewhere today. Time

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afternoon and with that comes outbreaks of rain for western

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Scotland. Turning more sherry for the afternoon, elsewhere some

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brightness getting through. The best of it across Aberdeenshire and

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Angus. That will lift temperatures up to new 20 Celsius.

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More in the early evening News at 6:50pm.

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Brian Cox is still with me in the studio. We have done your career,

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your politics. One series that fascinated me over Christmas was

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looking at opium, whiskey and sugar in Scotland. Things that have

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brought a lot of wealth to this country, but a lot of ill-health as

:01:18.:01:26.

well. Sugar in particular. We are all becoming a nation of diabetics.

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What appals me, and this is on a recent visit, when I visited my home

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Hospital in Dundee, I went and had my tests with the chief scientist of

:01:40.:01:44.

Scotland, Arnold friend of mine. He did my eye tests and feet tests and

:01:44.:01:49.

my tests for diabetes. Then went down to the shops in the hospital

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and they are selling the most appallingly high sugar stuff. On the

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one hand you have this health going on and in the basement there is

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Christ casting the people out of the temple. What is going on? All of

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this rubbish that is being served up. It is our diet. We do not pay

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enough attention to ever doubt. series was hugely informative. He

:02:16.:02:20.

were looking at the effect of whiskey as well and the way that

:02:20.:02:23.

alcoholism has spread throughout Scotland. You exploit that in the

:02:23.:02:32.

series. Timmy whisky is very honest because it has a social base to it.

:02:32.:02:39.

It is this move from being very... We moved almost overnight from an

:02:39.:02:43.

agrarian to an industrial culture. People still have a farming

:02:43.:02:52.

mentality. They removed out to big flats in cow cartons and places like

:02:52.:03:01.

that. Suddenly alcoholism went through the roof and the Temperance

:03:01.:03:04.

movement, which was an amazing movement at the time, we have only

:03:04.:03:12.

just got -- caught up with it. have been here, there and

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everywhere. But when you come back to Scotland do you see a nation that

:03:15.:03:21.

is changing? I see a nation that is extraordinary. I am so proud of this

:03:21.:03:28.

country. I am so proud of the way it has moved in last 40 or 50 years. It

:03:28.:03:32.

has done phenomenally. Just in terms of itself and its own identity. It

:03:32.:03:37.

is more itself than it ever was. It was not like that when I was a kid.

:03:37.:03:44.

I am very proud of it, I'm very proud to be Scottish. Will BBC more

:03:44.:03:49.

review in Scotland? Anything else coming up? I will be doing some

:03:49.:03:56.

stuff here and in Shetland. I am really looking forward to that.

:03:56.:04:01.

detective series. I am going to do a spot on that. I like being back here

:04:01.:04:08.

and working. But the great thing for me is that I have been elected for

:04:08.:04:11.

another three years as director of Dundee University. The University is

:04:11.:04:14.

one of the big things in my life and it is something I'm really dedicated

:04:14.:04:22.

to. When it comes to the referendum, will you be voting? I cannot fault.

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I cannot thought, sadly. I would board, you know how I would thought.

:04:29.:04:35.

That I just want all of these fears to be evaporated. There are a lot of

:04:35.:04:38.

people fear mongering. I think that independence is the way forward, not

:04:38.:04:44.

just for us but for the size as well. It has been a pleasure

:04:44.:04:49.

speaking to you. 14 years after it was first

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established, the Scottish Parliament this week celebrated the passing of

:04:54.:04:58.

its 200th act. The Forth Road Bridge Act became law according to the

:04:58.:05:05.

usual conventions. The milestone offered politicians are chance to

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reflect on Holyrood 's records. in a week when the new Queensbury

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Crossing has enjoyed the limelight, its neighbour was in the limelight

:05:19.:05:29.
:05:29.:05:33.

too. The Great Seal of Scotland has not changed much in 800 years and

:05:33.:05:38.

this is a key stage. Pouring the hot wax into these moulds, waiting for

:05:38.:05:44.

it to set, ready to be applied to the document. Over the course of two

:05:44.:05:48.

hours the delicate work continued towards its conclusion. The moment

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that the heavy mould is removed is the moment that the act becomes law,

:05:53.:05:59.

maintaining strong links with the past. the seal has been used in its

:05:59.:06:04.

current form since 1707 at the union of the Parliaments. Before that it

:06:04.:06:08.

would have been used by the monarch in Scotland. After 1707 at Kendall

:06:08.:06:15.

declined. Since the Scottish Parliament it has been used much

:06:15.:06:20.

more. Legislation has influenced most aspects of Scottish life, from

:06:20.:06:26.

the legal system to the environment. Act that brought about the smoking

:06:26.:06:36.
:06:36.:06:37.

ban and free personal care for the elderly. The Presiding Officer who

:06:37.:06:47.
:06:47.:06:53.

was there at the beginning of the Parliament believes that there have

:06:53.:07:01.

been great advantages. the only thing is that there is no revising

:07:01.:07:11.
:07:11.:07:22.

chamber. That is something that is on some legislation, there needs to

:07:22.:07:25.

be sunset clauses on some legislation so that after three or

:07:25.:07:28.

four years it his to come back to parliament for approval before it

:07:28.:07:35.

can continue. Another bone of contention comes from the SNP 's

:07:35.:07:44.

convincing victory. the Parliament was designed so that a minority

:07:44.:07:54.
:07:54.:07:54.

government could not rule. democratic will of the SNP

:07:55.:08:03.

Government of the Scottish people chose the SNP Government. We have

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always come to a consensual view, which has included constructive

:08:07.:08:17.
:08:17.:08:23.

criticism and recommendations for the Scottish Government.

:08:23.:08:27.

Political magazine presented by Andrew Neil and Andrew Kerr.


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