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In the West, it is an ill wind that blows nobody any good. A boom in | :01:28. | :01:33. | |
business after the horsemeat scandal for butchers, but can | :01:33. | :01:43. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 2121 seconds | :01:43. | :37:04. | |
politicians restore our faith in Welcome to the part of the Sunday | :37:04. | :37:08. | |
Politics that is just for us in the west country. Coming up, | :37:08. | :37:12. | |
politicians say we should buy locally sourced British beef in the | :37:12. | :37:16. | |
light of the horsemeat scandal. Consumer confidence has been rocked | :37:16. | :37:20. | |
and we speak to farmers, butchers and food producers who say they | :37:20. | :37:28. | |
could benefit from the scandal. Let's welcome our two guests, the | :37:28. | :37:33. | |
Conservative Neil Carmichael and Labour's came McCarthy. Came | :37:34. | :37:43. | |
McCarthy is a vegan. Let's talk about Labour's announcement to | :37:43. | :37:50. | |
bring back the 10 pence rate of income tax. Labour doing this at a | :37:50. | :37:54. | |
time when the Conservatives and the coalition decided to give tax | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
breaks to millionaires. Have they got the upper hand? What we have | :37:59. | :38:04. | |
done is taken a lot of people out of tax altogether. 38,000 people in | :38:04. | :38:08. | |
Stroud are not paying as much tax as before because we have lifted | :38:08. | :38:14. | |
personal allowances. It is not a 10 pence tax, it is a 0p tax for us. | :38:14. | :38:19. | |
But still the millionaires get their break. We are taxing | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
wealthier people much more than Labour ever did, we have a higher | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
level of income tax for wealthy people and various other measures | :38:26. | :38:32. | |
to improve tax collection from sales of houses and so forth. The | :38:32. | :38:38. | |
fact is we are actually netting more tax. Is this here or there, | :38:38. | :38:44. | |
the 10 pence tax rate? I you're admitting that you got it wrong | :38:44. | :38:53. | |
when you scratch did? -- are you're admitting. Some people did not lose | :38:53. | :38:58. | |
out but about half a million people did and, as we know, there was | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
quite a fury about that. It is quite right to look at reducing the | :39:02. | :39:07. | |
tax burden on the lower paid but this government is wrong to say | :39:07. | :39:13. | |
they have a higher rate of tax than Labour did. We but the tax rate up | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
to 50p for the higher rate earners just as we left office and they | :39:16. | :39:23. | |
have put that down to 40 pence in the pound. It means that the richer | :39:23. | :39:28. | |
people are not paying as much tax as we would have liked them to pay. | :39:28. | :39:35. | |
You say that is what you're going to do but you did not do it. | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
financial circumstances demanded. They did not in 1997 because it was | :39:39. | :39:46. | |
an economic boom time. It will soon be -- soon be time for a spot of | :39:46. | :39:52. | |
Sunday lunch. Would it be chicken, lamb, beef, or perhaps a few tender | :39:52. | :39:56. | |
sort -- slices of course? The scandal has shaken confidence in | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
the food we eat, so much so that 98 % of butchers locally but we have | :40:01. | :40:08. | |
spoken to have reported an increase in trade. -- that we have spoken to. | :40:08. | :40:13. | |
Are the public were turning back to meet by contrast? | :40:13. | :40:18. | |
The start of the food trade. There is no mistaking these local cows | :40:18. | :40:23. | |
for horses. But after slaughter, as meat is process, it can be nearly | :40:23. | :40:29. | |
impossible to tell the difference would be -- without a DNA test. For | :40:29. | :40:33. | |
cattle farmers like these outside Weston-super-Mare the scandal could | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
be good news if consumers vote with their wallets and decide to buy | :40:37. | :40:46. | |
more locally produced but it -- British beats -- beef. It could be | :40:46. | :40:50. | |
good if people go back to bind from butchers and move away from | :40:51. | :40:57. | |
processed foods. -- buying from butchers. Farmers like Simon are | :40:57. | :41:01. | |
backed by senior politicians, who say that consumers need to take | :41:01. | :41:05. | |
responsibility for what they are eating. This is the time we should | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
be buying British beef from British butchers, farm shops, and when you | :41:09. | :41:15. | |
buy from the supermarket go for farm assured track to assign for | :41:15. | :41:21. | |
showing that the meat is completely able to be traced. Does local | :41:21. | :41:26. | |
always make it safe? Bees Bristol- based to pie makers say that you | :41:26. | :41:35. | |
get what you pay for. 60,000 pie is a role off the production line here | :41:35. | :41:45. | |
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every week. -- pie is a role off. At �3.50 up I'd they are pricier | :41:47. | :41:52. | |
than a supermarket own-brand but they say that consumers need to get | :41:52. | :42:02. | |
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real if they want good food. -- �3.50 for a pie. You have to be | :42:03. | :42:08. | |
careful about how you buy it and what cuts you use force. We would | :42:08. | :42:16. | |
not economise on that. Bristol butcher David Giles agrees. We try | :42:16. | :42:21. | |
to sort everything as locally as we can. Everything within 50 miles of | :42:21. | :42:28. | |
this shop. This local butchers has been busier than normal in this | :42:29. | :42:37. | |
last week. They say business is up 10 %. 16 out of 18 local business - | :42:37. | :42:41. | |
- but just say their profits are up. Customers in the short term at | :42:41. | :42:44. | |
least seem to be choosing local fresh meat instead of processed | :42:44. | :42:51. | |
food. We saw step from this Budget because we know where it is coming | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
from, it is all labelled. If you buy it in a packet you don't know | :42:55. | :42:59. | |
where it is coming from. Four you know you will get good food, good | :42:59. | :43:06. | |
quality, so that is why it is so busy. In reality we can't all eat | :43:06. | :43:10. | |
locally produced fresh meat. need to remember that Britain is | :43:10. | :43:14. | |
not self-sufficient in food, it is not self-sufficient in beef, so we | :43:14. | :43:20. | |
have to import. If we import we need to work out how we can make | :43:20. | :43:24. | |
sure we can trace meat across borders, so promoting British meat | :43:25. | :43:29. | |
is important and legitimate but it should not distract us from the | :43:29. | :43:36. | |
need to work out how we make sure our supply chains are able to be | :43:36. | :43:39. | |
traced and transparent. Four the cost of testing beef products has | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
run into millions. Restoring consumer confidence could cost even | :43:44. | :43:51. | |
more. Joining the debate is a local food | :43:51. | :43:58. | |
expert and the author of, who feeds Bristol. It is quite simple, it is | :43:58. | :44:05. | |
the supermarkets, isn't it? You are right, it is. How much to people | :44:05. | :44:11. | |
trust supermarkets? It is a good question. It is interesting to | :44:11. | :44:17. | |
remember, since World War II, we have developed a food system which | :44:17. | :44:21. | |
is effectively about commodities and profit and we have lost the | :44:21. | :44:28. | |
transparency and connection. But actually people do care. We have | :44:28. | :44:32. | |
data from Bristol that suggests people really do care where their | :44:32. | :44:41. | |
food comes from. To they care about what is it quits -- what is in it? | :44:41. | :44:46. | |
Is it the distaste of eating a different kind of animal? I think | :44:46. | :44:50. | |
it is all of those things, but this taste but also wanting to know that | :44:50. | :44:57. | |
when you buy something with a label it is what it says on that in. -- | :44:57. | :45:05. | |
this taste. Do you think people will go back to the cheap food | :45:05. | :45:11. | |
easily available? That is the worry. We have had food scares before and | :45:11. | :45:17. | |
for a period people go to buy food with a farmer's face on it, food | :45:17. | :45:21. | |
they can trust, and then they refer to different habits. That is the | :45:21. | :45:30. | |
fear but it is always helpful and we need to encourage our families | :45:30. | :45:35. | |
and friends to be a bit more interested in what we eat. You said | :45:35. | :45:43. | |
this was the tip of the iceberg. It seems it might be right. A lot of | :45:43. | :45:50. | |
the concern has focused on the fact that there has been horsemeat found | :45:50. | :45:53. | |
in the food chain and whether it is contaminated with the painkiller, | :45:53. | :45:58. | |
but I think, if we don't know how it got into the food chain, there | :45:58. | :46:02. | |
are other questions to be asked about what else is in the food | :46:02. | :46:07. | |
chain. It is amazing, the number of steps... Some of these products are | :46:07. | :46:10. | |
seen to have travelled around the hall of Europe before they end up | :46:10. | :46:15. | |
on our shelves. There is concern about organised crime being | :46:15. | :46:20. | |
involved and the fact that the food is so cheap makes you wonder... | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
There is a balance. Your constituents can get four burgers | :46:25. | :46:34. | |
for a food. I think they can get paid for at -- eight for a pound. | :46:34. | :46:44. | |
That is a good value Mead. -- meal. A lot to be ball was saying people | :46:44. | :46:49. | |
should be prepared to pay more for their meal and they can know where | :46:49. | :46:52. | |
it came from, but a lot of people are not in a position to do that, | :46:52. | :46:58. | |
they don't have the money, they are on a tight budgets -- so they will | :46:58. | :47:01. | |
go for the value range, so that is why it is important that people | :47:01. | :47:08. | |
know what is in them. Neil, you used to be a beef farmer. You know | :47:08. | :47:13. | |
a thing or two about food. This is another failure of the markets, | :47:13. | :47:21. | |
isn't it? First we had the bankers at letting us down, now it is the | :47:21. | :47:25. | |
supermarket. This is an example of gross deception and people breaking | :47:25. | :47:32. | |
the law. That is the market. have to make it more transparent | :47:33. | :47:37. | |
and make sure that the supply train works more efficiently, but the key | :47:37. | :47:40. | |
thing is that when people buy something it should be what it says | :47:40. | :47:46. | |
on the tin. That has clearly not been happening with burgers or | :47:46. | :47:49. | |
other processed food. We have to get that right. And the other thing | :47:49. | :47:53. | |
I said in the House of Commons is we need random testing, not just | :47:54. | :47:58. | |
across the supply train but right down into it as well, to penetrate | :47:58. | :48:03. | |
areas where the spotlight has not been. For the politicians are | :48:03. | :48:08. | |
saying take more interest in your food, but is that if a bid mill at | :48:08. | :48:18. | |
-- middle class, is it really going to make a difference? It is not | :48:18. | :48:23. | |
what most people do, go to farmers' markets. That is the perception. | :48:23. | :48:27. | |
The food system is like dominoes, if you not want it has an impact, | :48:28. | :48:31. | |
and cooking is at the heart of making a change. We have a problem | :48:32. | :48:37. | |
as a nation, we have lost our cooking skills. Perhaps they don't | :48:37. | :48:42. | |
teach it so much in schools. It is being brought back onto the | :48:42. | :48:45. | |
national curriculum, which is a good thing. Thank you very much for | :48:45. | :48:53. | |
joining us today. Have the cuts really heard our councils or is the | :48:53. | :48:58. | |
age of austerity catapulting town halls into the 21st century? By | :48:58. | :49:03. | |
West's councils will be both setting their budgets in the next | :49:03. | :49:09. | |
fortnight. Most voters seem untouched by the cuts they are | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
making. Taunton, Swindon, Bristol, Bath. | :49:13. | :49:18. | |
There have been demonstrations and anger at many of our council's. It | :49:18. | :49:22. | |
reached a peak at Gloucestershire County Council, which set about | :49:22. | :49:27. | |
cutting a thousand staff and �100 million. Two years ago, as councils | :49:27. | :49:37. | |
set -- met to set their budget, there were Big Eck -- bigger | :49:37. | :49:42. | |
protests, but this time people don't seem to have noticed. It does | :49:42. | :49:47. | |
not really affect us. Personally I have not noticed any difference. | :49:48. | :49:55. | |
Not personally, no. They have not really affected me. Not at the | :49:55. | :50:01. | |
moment but you know it will come. have not been aware of it. Only on | :50:01. | :50:07. | |
the TV. There was much coverage of library cuts. The feared closures | :50:07. | :50:11. | |
have not happened. This is one of seven run not by council staff but | :50:11. | :50:16. | |
by volunteers. Already we have had some fantastic feedback in terms of | :50:16. | :50:20. | |
the atmosphere. It is completely different in the building because | :50:20. | :50:25. | |
it is not a local authority run service. All of the people here are | :50:25. | :50:29. | |
local so they know half of the people who come in. The model we | :50:29. | :50:34. | |
have here actually could be the model for other areas. The cabbie | :50:34. | :50:43. | |
at, he adds, is that finance is an on going challenge. -- can be at. | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
At this youth centre of volunteers have made up for what the council | :50:47. | :50:57. | |
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cut. Gloucester's's -- Gloucesters leader feels vindicated. Volunteers | :50:58. | :51:04. | |
have taken on some of the responsibilities that it we have | :51:04. | :51:08. | |
given up but there is far more focus on the really important | :51:08. | :51:12. | |
services. Yes, we have so -- reduced staff numbers but we are | :51:12. | :51:17. | |
protecting services those most important for the most vulnerable. | :51:17. | :51:24. | |
Fewer staff in few offices and they work differently. Yes, I can | :51:24. | :51:28. | |
probably find a number for the centre itself. This is the | :51:28. | :51:34. | |
council's call centre. Much more is done by phone or online. Modern | :51:34. | :51:39. | |
business practice is now becoming the norm in local government. | :51:39. | :51:47. | |
are reducing our footprint as a local authority, bringing staff | :51:47. | :51:51. | |
into this building and making sure that people are working better in | :51:51. | :51:55. | |
teams. We are modernising, making some changes but frankly we should | :51:55. | :52:04. | |
have made a long time ago. -- that frankly. Foster's council meeting | :52:04. | :52:14. | |
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is not expected to be as he did this time. - Matt Goss de's. -- | :52:16. | :52:20. | |
Gloucester's. If you don't repair the windows and don't repair the | :52:20. | :52:27. | |
front door, finally you have to do it more expensively. We are at a | :52:27. | :52:31. | |
stage where some of the impact will not be felt for two or three years | :52:31. | :52:35. | |
down alone -- down the line. councils cut further without the | :52:35. | :52:40. | |
public feeling the pain? This year's funding settlement is not so | :52:40. | :52:45. | |
draconian but all expect the next few years to be much tougher. | :52:45. | :52:53. | |
Join in us today is the and the cuts campaigner, Jerry Hicks. -- | :52:53. | :53:02. | |
and he cuts. Have you been crying wolf against these cuts? No, I have | :53:02. | :53:11. | |
been campaigning against them. The bedroom tax will be the coalition's | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
poll-tax. That was smashed as well. Let's look at Gloucester, where | :53:15. | :53:21. | |
they have axed 1,000 staff and nobody seemed to be any the wiser. | :53:21. | :53:26. | |
I don't know about wiser, I think people need to be inspired to fight | :53:26. | :53:34. | |
back. Fight back against what? you cut 1,000 staff, shops close, | :53:34. | :53:39. | |
people do not have the spending power. For your argument was always | :53:39. | :53:45. | |
but the cuts would affect members of the public directly. So far it | :53:45. | :53:49. | |
is not clear to see where this is happening, unless you can put me | :53:49. | :53:55. | |
right. It is very clear to see where it is happening. I spoke to a | :53:55. | :53:59. | |
Unite member this morning, a branch official from the hospital, and | :54:00. | :54:04. | |
they are calling for a national campaign to say that cuts affect | :54:04. | :54:09. | |
everybody. The budget for the NHS has not been cut. The other think | :54:09. | :54:16. | |
it is important dimension, you know we talked about Labour early on -- | :54:16. | :54:22. | |
labelling early on, it is the label that cuts are the only alternative, | :54:22. | :54:27. | |
and the difference between Labour and the Tories is on a pinhead. | :54:27. | :54:33. | |
There is an alternative to cuts, cutting Trident... Let's bring in | :54:33. | :54:39. | |
Kerry. We have heard so much about the cuts but it is hard to see | :54:39. | :54:44. | |
where they are affecting people directly. I would not agree. | :54:44. | :54:48. | |
Certainly in terms of the casework I am getting through, increasingly | :54:48. | :54:54. | |
we are getting people to -- who are in desperate situations. The | :54:54. | :54:58. | |
bedroom tax will hit a lot of people and the council is planning | :54:58. | :55:08. | |
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to scrap the homeless prevention sector. The basic living standards | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
of people, you have people who are subject to the public sector pay | :55:12. | :55:17. | |
freeze for several years, their overtime is being cut, child care | :55:17. | :55:22. | |
costs are going up, food and fuel bills are a huge issue, and I am | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
definitely seeing it in terms of individuals coming to me in | :55:25. | :55:29. | |
desperate straits. Neil Carmichael, let's look at the other side of the | :55:29. | :55:34. | |
coin, you are not really cutting public spending a tour, are you? | :55:34. | :55:44. | |
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Not in significant ways. -- planned -- public spending at all. | :55:46. | :55:49. | |
Gloucestershire County Council is investing a lot of money in | :55:49. | :55:52. | |
encouraging younger people to think about careers and give them | :55:52. | :55:57. | |
opportunities for further training, low. �1 million worth of investment, | :55:57. | :56:01. | |
and that is just Gloucestershire. Gloucestershire County Council has | :56:01. | :56:04. | |
a really good story to tell in economic development so I think it | :56:04. | :56:10. | |
is important to get this in but it -- in perspective. We now employ | :56:10. | :56:13. | |
nearly 30 million people for the first time in Britain and for the | :56:13. | :56:17. | |
last few years we have increased the number of people at work in the | :56:17. | :56:23. | |
private sector. Coulter of those extra jobs are part-time, poorly | :56:23. | :56:30. | |
paid jobs. -- a lot of those. of the jobs are in the | :56:30. | :56:34. | |
manufacturing and engineering sector. The good news is we are not | :56:34. | :56:40. | |
just getting more jobs but we are getting more orders for export. | :56:40. | :56:48. | |
There are 800 job losses, job losses at Rolls-Royce, if people | :56:48. | :56:57. | |
are so well off, why are the Tories so poor in the polls? People's | :56:57. | :57:02. | |
spending power has been reduced, it is probably worse than it was in | :57:02. | :57:12. | |
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1997, certainly than 2003. In Lewisham, with the hospital cart, | :57:12. | :57:22. | |
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25,000 marched. -- the hospital cut. How many billions have been spent | :57:22. | :57:32. | |
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on walls? Thank you for joining us. -- spent on war. Let's go to the | :57:33. | :57:36. | |
rest of the week's news in one minute. | :57:36. | :57:42. | |
Almost half of GPs in the West say they will continue -- will consider | :57:42. | :57:45. | |
leaving the profession when government changes come in in April. | :57:45. | :57:50. | |
A local survey of nearly 3,000 doctors found that 48 % and may get | :57:50. | :57:54. | |
a different job or retire. A former colliery and the Forest of | :57:54. | :57:59. | |
Dean which has lain derelict for nearly 50 years is set to become a | :57:59. | :58:04. | |
business park, creating 200 jobs. Councillors voted in favour but | :58:04. | :58:10. | |
wildlife experts are unhappy. It is the event that made western | :58:10. | :58:16. | |
Sudan call. T four on the beach saw thousands of youngsters flocking on | :58:16. | :58:26. | |
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to the beach but the event has been axed. -- made Weston-Super-Mare | :58:28. | :58:34. | |
Cormack. -- cool. There was Pat -- pancake flipping | :58:34. | :58:41. | |
about among MPs against journalists and they won. | :58:41. | :58:47. | |
Let's pick up on one of those stories. GPs threatening to leave | :58:47. | :58:50. | |
the health service or to retire because of the changes. Do you | :58:50. | :58:56. | |
believe that? I don't, because I have talked to a lot of GPs who are | :58:56. | :59:02. | |
happy with the changes. We have 360 GPs in Gloucestershire but not all | :59:02. | :59:09. | |
of them are ecstatically happy but most of them are. We need to talk | :59:09. | :59:14. | |
about the scandals... That is a good point. Are you conscious of | :59:14. | :59:20. | |
low morale amongst GPs, many of whom are earning above 100 grand? | :59:20. | :59:24. | |
Money is not everything. Certainly when I spoke to them about the | :59:24. | :59:29. | |
changes, but GPs consortiums are taking over primary care trusts, I | :59:29. | :59:39. | |
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could not find much enthusiasm. -- the GPs' consortiums. Thank-you to | :59:44. | :59:50. |