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to go to Glastonbury? Think again. Is it only the older generation who | :01:18. | :01:28. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 1917 seconds | :01:28. | :33:26. | |
the Sunday Politics here in the West. Coming up today: 135,000 | :33:26. | :33:28. | |
ticket holders have been partying in the Somerset Countryside this | :33:28. | :33:33. | |
weekend. And if you thought Glastonbury was just for the young. | :33:33. | :33:40. | |
Then think again. As the festival has grown up, so has the audience. | :33:40. | :33:42. | |
But with more austerity measures announced by the government this | :33:42. | :33:45. | |
week, is it ONLY the older generation who can afford to party | :33:45. | :33:54. | |
these days as the youngsters pay for the mess we're in? That's coming up. | :33:55. | :33:58. | |
But first lets meet our guests today - they are the Conservative MP | :33:58. | :34:01. | |
Charlotte Leslie and Labour's Darren Jones who's hoping to unseat her at | :34:01. | :34:11. | |
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the next general election. Thank you both for coming in. Are you going to | :34:15. | :34:18. | |
be able to hang on with the way things are going at the next | :34:18. | :34:28. | |
election? Absolutely.But that is not going to be easy, is it? | :34:28. | :34:32. | |
double dip recession did not happen but the recession in 2008 when | :34:32. | :34:36. | |
Labour were in power was much deeper than we thought. We need | :34:36. | :34:39. | |
Conservatives in power were to make sure we do not go back to those | :34:39. | :34:46. | |
days. Do you agree? No. I can see the impact he cuts are having on | :34:46. | :34:51. | |
local people. It is our job to make sure they have an MP that stands up | :34:51. | :34:55. | |
for them and that's what I'm going to be seeking to do. Is that why | :34:55. | :35:05. | |
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you've agreed to make the same cuts as the Conservatives? Things like a | :35:07. | :35:15. | |
bedroom tax. Now we move on to our top story faster than the chancellor | :35:15. | :35:18. | |
can scoff a burger and chips! Yes, fortified by his late night snack, | :35:18. | :35:22. | |
he went to Parliament this week and imposed another dose of austerity on | :35:22. | :35:25. | |
the nation. He's done it before but this time West Country councils say | :35:25. | :35:28. | |
its really, really going to hurt. Here's Paul Barltrop. The rhetoric | :35:28. | :35:35. | |
has become almost routine, the announcements all too familiar. | :35:35. | :35:41. | |
of the biggest economic crises of the modern either. In 2015 spending | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
will be slashed yet again. Among the biggest losers once more, local | :35:45. | :35:47. | |
government. In North Somerset they've already shut libraries, | :35:47. | :35:49. | |
closed public toilets, and ended their dedicated youth service. The | :35:49. | :35:57. | |
Conservatives in charge are angry that they'll lose still more money. | :35:57. | :36:02. | |
You cannot go any further. We are already cutting things that we | :36:02. | :36:07. | |
should not the cutting. 61% goes on care services, we cannot cut back on | :36:07. | :36:14. | |
those. We have the lowest overhead for care services in the country. We | :36:14. | :36:19. | |
refuse to cut back on that. There is only so much you can do before you | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
start really hurting people. Policing is a very sensitive | :36:22. | :36:26. | |
subject. For decades crime has been falling but so too now are officer | :36:26. | :36:29. | |
numbers. Avon and Somerset predict this week's cuts will cost them | :36:29. | :36:38. | |
hundreds of jobs. Let's not kid ourselves, this is a very tough call | :36:38. | :36:43. | |
and we will have to take it very CDs leave. We have to prioritise. It is | :36:43. | :36:48. | |
money we've got. I have opened up the books for people to look at and | :36:49. | :36:53. | |
I am obviously going out there for consultation on council tax. | :36:53. | :37:00. | |
Politicians know these plans will kick in at election time. | :37:00. | :37:06. | |
Speaker, it does not have two be this way. But even if his side win, | :37:06. | :37:08. | |
they'll stick with the spending cuts. The country's finances leave | :37:08. | :37:11. | |
little choice. Joining the debate is Ric Pallister who's the leader of | :37:11. | :37:18. | |
South Somerset District Council. Can you envisage making the sort of cuts | :37:18. | :37:24. | |
the government want you to? We have two. It is as simple as that. The | :37:25. | :37:34. | |
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money is not there. The overall share will lie with the bigger | :37:37. | :37:44. | |
unitary authorities particularly in relation to adult here. What cat -- | :37:44. | :37:50. | |
what fat is left? It is not fat. We have to be more efficient than in | :37:50. | :37:58. | |
the past. So have you been spending money and wasting it? Now, we have | :37:58. | :38:05. | |
been encouraged to employ people, we got government grants over many | :38:05. | :38:09. | |
years and saw our workforce was much higher. We have had technology | :38:09. | :38:15. | |
coming in which is now enabling us to reduce our workforce. Are you | :38:15. | :38:20. | |
encouraged by the fact that at least one council thinks there is a bit of | :38:20. | :38:26. | |
fat that can be cut? I am all for finding efficiency for tax year was | :38:26. | :38:31. | |
Mike money. But these cuts are already hurting people right across | :38:31. | :38:40. | |
Bristol and our county. The question of bedroom tax is that it has been | :38:40. | :38:48. | |
said now one will be evicted who is subject to it. You see you would | :38:48. | :38:55. | |
impose those cuts but how much would be bedroom tax Seve? Be government | :38:55. | :38:59. | |
supported by Charlotte who have asked repeatedly to explain why she | :38:59. | :39:04. | |
thought it was appropriate to board for bedroom tax. People who live in | :39:04. | :39:09. | |
these houses have no other small houses to move to, it is linked | :39:09. | :39:18. | |
directly to infrastructure. We have to get real. The fact we are facing | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
a perfect storm, the money is not there. Wouldn't I love to be an MP | :39:23. | :39:31. | |
who did not have to make cuts but we have two. The amount the debt is | :39:31. | :39:36. | |
going up is slowing down. You said it would be a period of steady tea, | :39:36. | :39:44. | |
then everything would hunky-dory. That is not happening. We have got | :39:44. | :39:50. | |
an ageing population. What we are seeing is very interesting. We have | :39:50. | :39:55. | |
had the luxury of spending a lot, we are having to retract jobs in the | :39:55. | :40:02. | |
public sector, it is difficult for councils who have been wiser with | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
the money because they are already quite clean. It is often | :40:06. | :40:11. | |
Conservative councils who are suffering the most because they are | :40:11. | :40:17. | |
already so efficient. OK, we have to move on. If you think the | :40:17. | :40:21. | |
Glastonbury Festival is just for the kids, you might be surprised. Some | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
of the festival goers are drawing a pension and a few of the performers | :40:24. | :40:27. | |
are positively ancient. Nothing wrong with that, but are the older | :40:27. | :40:30. | |
generation enjoying the high life while the youngsters are priced out | :40:30. | :40:35. | |
of everything? I've been to Glastonbury this week to find out. | :40:35. | :40:45. | |
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Welcome to Glastonbury 2013. About 200,000 people are here. Including | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
artists, workers, and of course, festival goers, are packed onto | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
these fields here. This is as big as the City of Bath Now in its 43rd | :40:59. | :41:02. | |
year, the festival started from small beginnings. In 1970 it cost | :41:02. | :41:11. | |
just �1 for a ticket and around 1,500 people came. I would not see | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
it was a disaster but there have not been as many people as I would have | :41:16. | :41:20. | |
hoped. I thought be beat have about 5000 but it was only a couple of | :41:20. | :41:30. | |
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thousand. The post World War II baby boomers were the target audience. No | :41:31. | :41:37. | |
oldies allowed! All these revellers got free was the worthy farm milk | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
given away at the gates, not a TV licence or a bus pass. Back then the | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
Rolling Stones were selling albums like sweeties. They were too big for | :41:44. | :41:47. | |
this little festival. But as they've grown up, so has Glastonbury. | :41:47. | :41:49. | |
Today's festival is almost unrecognisable. Ticket prices have | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
risen enormously - a bit like house prices in that time. Now, at over | :41:52. | :41:55. | |
�200 a pop, that's a 20,000% increase, many youngsters simply | :41:55. | :41:59. | |
can't afford to come here. Add in the cost of booze and food and it | :41:59. | :42:04. | |
probably costs you nearer �500. So have the baby boomers priced today's | :42:04. | :42:06. | |
teenagers and twenty-somethings out of the Glastonbury market, just as | :42:06. | :42:16. | |
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they have the housing market? Take a look around here. There are still | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
thousands of youngsters. But the baby boomers, who enjoyed it in the | :42:31. | :42:34. | |
early years, are still coming back today with some putting the average | :42:34. | :42:38. | |
age of people here nearer 40 than 20. So with the country gripped in a | :42:38. | :42:40. | |
period of austerity, with youth unemployment at its highest for a | :42:40. | :42:47. | |
generation, is it the kids of the 80's and 90's who are missing out? | :42:48. | :42:57. | |
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And you both working? Yes.Do you have kids and a house? No, not yet. | :43:01. | :43:05. | |
As you get older it gets easier because you enjoy life more. I did | :43:05. | :43:12. | |
not have a job for about seven months and then I suddenly got one | :43:12. | :43:16. | |
and I'm so happy. It's permanent. It's all right. I'm having to | :43:16. | :43:21. | |
continue working just to make ends meet. Is it harder than five years | :43:21. | :43:28. | |
ago when Mark I don't think so, no. You just have to take a look at the | :43:28. | :43:32. | |
line-up on this - the pyramid stage - many are not exactly spring | :43:32. | :43:34. | |
chickens themselves. Mick Jagger, well he's old enough to collect his | :43:34. | :43:37. | |
pension and get his winter fuel allowance, although it wouldn't be | :43:37. | :43:42. | |
much use in one of these tents! So Bruce Forsyth is also coming here | :43:42. | :43:47. | |
and he could use his free bus pass. I guess what it does show is that if | :43:47. | :43:53. | |
you have got your health, you can work into old-age. Elvis Castella, | :43:53. | :44:00. | |
Billy Bragg, they argue too. Is it time for them to step aside? For the | :44:00. | :44:05. | |
rumours to give something back to the next generation? Maybe starting | :44:05. | :44:11. | |
with the winter fuel payments and television licence. A couple of | :44:11. | :44:14. | |
young things are still here to discuss all that. You think it is | :44:14. | :44:22. | |
right that Sir Bruce Forsyth should get a free television licence? | :44:22. | :44:26. | |
not think it is by the administrative costs to strip these | :44:26. | :44:33. | |
things out cute actually cost more than you are saving. I think there | :44:33. | :44:37. | |
is no reason that Mick Jagger should be getting a winter fuel allowance | :44:37. | :44:43. | |
really. Well why don't you act? Why give these things to older people | :44:43. | :44:49. | |
who don't need it? administration costs at too high. | :44:49. | :44:54. | |
The baby boomer generation dead shaft the younger generation. | :44:54. | :45:02. | |
Pensions were designed at a time when it might be the last ten years | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
of your life. Now there are a lot more of them and it is the younger | :45:05. | :45:12. | |
generation who are being for these generations pensions. Who is going | :45:12. | :45:19. | |
to pay for the younger people is my pensions? There are a lot of | :45:19. | :45:24. | |
complaints about raising the pension age but it has two be linked to life | :45:24. | :45:32. | |
expectancy. Pensions were linked to when there were a lot of young | :45:32. | :45:35. | |
people paying for a lot of old people. Now there are small number | :45:35. | :45:40. | |
of young people being for a lot of old people and that is not | :45:40. | :45:45. | |
sustainable. The younger generation have it really tough. What about | :45:45. | :45:49. | |
labour, do you believe in universal benefits or should they be means | :45:49. | :45:57. | |
tested? We need to be pragmatic about what we have and what we can | :45:57. | :46:04. | |
do with that. Charlotte has the habit of saying one thing in Bristol | :46:04. | :46:10. | |
and doing something else in Westminster. Rich old people tend to | :46:10. | :46:16. | |
vote Tory so I will forward to discussing that later. I have quite | :46:16. | :46:25. | |
a good record actually, that is probably why I'm not a minister. | :46:25. | :46:29. | |
Let's be clear then, do you accept the young people need more of a | :46:29. | :46:33. | |
helping hand at the moment rather than the all to have them pretty | :46:33. | :46:40. | |
much protected through this recession? I think young people need | :46:40. | :46:45. | |
to have help. We have hundreds of young unemployed people in Bristol | :46:45. | :46:55. | |
and the south-west as a result of the failed economic policy. Will you | :46:55. | :47:00. | |
as we pulled to board for you and you will stop the winter fuel | :47:00. | :47:07. | |
allowance for pensioners? We will be seeing two people are economic | :47:07. | :47:15. | |
policy is focused on fairness. am the grumpy old fellow on the | :47:15. | :47:19. | |
doorstep seeing you are going to cut my winter fuel allowance even though | :47:19. | :47:26. | |
I have a Mercedes on the drive report will use a quest Mark we have | :47:26. | :47:35. | |
two tell them how it is. If you've driven through the countryside | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
anywhere south of the M4, chances are you'll have glimpsed a solar | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
farm. They're fields full of hundreds of solar panels and they're | :47:41. | :47:44. | |
becoming more and more commonplace. But as well as being viewed by some | :47:44. | :47:47. | |
as a blot on the landscape, there are concerns that too much land is | :47:48. | :47:50. | |
being taken out of food production. Ruth Bradley reports. Jonathan | :47:50. | :47:53. | |
Hoskyn's family have farmed near Crewkerne for a quarter of a | :47:53. | :47:56. | |
century. He's got 80 acres of apple and pear trees. But on one part of | :47:57. | :47:59. | |
the farm, Jonathan's gone from harvesting fruit to harvesting | :47:59. | :48:08. | |
sunshine. I tried to grow fruit trees here but it would not grow | :48:08. | :48:14. | |
because the soil is very shallow. rents five acres to a solar power | :48:14. | :48:20. | |
company. It makes enough electricity each year to run about 200 homes. So | :48:20. | :48:24. | |
whip you could turn the whole farm over two solar panels, with that be | :48:24. | :48:31. | |
viable? The overheads would disappear so it would but I am a | :48:31. | :48:41. | |
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fruit farmer and I would not want it any other way. The last couple of | :48:43. | :48:46. | |
years have seen a huge rise in solar farms. The number of planning | :48:46. | :48:49. | |
applications in this part of Somerset has more than doubled since | :48:49. | :48:52. | |
2011. Cashing in on the current climate are companies like this one | :48:52. | :48:54. | |
near Ilminster. They've gone from putting these solar panels on | :48:54. | :49:04. | |
peoples houses to filling fields with them. Particularly for the | :49:04. | :49:08. | |
landowners, a lot of times they are not using particular fields and it | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
is an income for them, they do not have to work particularly hard for | :49:12. | :49:20. | |
it and it can help sustain the business. It is typically between | :49:20. | :49:27. | |
�801,000 per acre per year, that is index-linked. As well as MORE solar | :49:27. | :49:30. | |
farms, they're also getting bigger. This one near Ilminster's going from | :49:30. | :49:32. | |
five acres to 50. Countryside campaigners are worried they're | :49:32. | :49:39. | |
taking up land which should be growing food. The offer such | :49:39. | :49:46. | |
guaranteed inflation proof fees that make it more attractive for the | :49:46. | :49:53. | |
farmer or landowner to let the land for 25 years. I do not blame them | :49:53. | :49:57. | |
but I do blame the government. I blame to some extent the planning | :49:57. | :50:01. | |
authorities for not doing more than they could do to protect | :50:01. | :50:10. | |
agricultural land, particularly here. For now, these fields are | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
growing the wheat to be baked into our bread. If solar developers have | :50:13. | :50:22. | |
their way, they'll be making the power to run bakers' ovens instead. | :50:22. | :50:25. | |
Still with us is Ric Pallister who's the leader of South Somerset | :50:25. | :50:35. | |
District Council. When these applications come before you, what | :50:35. | :50:40. | |
do you think? Absolutely yes. Someone has got to wake up and | :50:40. | :50:43. | |
realise that when you turn the light switch on you want the light to come | :50:43. | :50:51. | |
on. We have got all sorts of issues that the moment over EDF. Whether it | :50:51. | :50:55. | |
is going ahead or not, if it does not our whole policy is in tatters | :50:55. | :51:00. | |
for the future. You will see Mr Putin sitting in an armchair in | :51:00. | :51:07. | |
control of our energy. We cannot have that. A couple of solar panels | :51:07. | :51:17. | |
New York will is not going to make a difference, is it? -- you will. | :51:17. | :51:23. | |
it won't, but when you have failed school of them you can. You cannot | :51:23. | :51:29. | |
store the electricity. What every time you turn the panels on and you | :51:29. | :51:36. | |
are gathering energy from the sun you can turn the gas down. You can | :51:36. | :51:41. | |
turn the gas power stations down when the sun is providing the | :51:41. | :51:48. | |
energy. Hasn't there been an appalling performance from both your | :51:48. | :51:57. | |
governments when there is not enough power there to keep the lights on? | :51:57. | :52:04. | |
think you are right we are facing an energy crisis. I do not want to be | :52:04. | :52:08. | |
dependent on the Middle East and Russia for energy. We have to become | :52:08. | :52:13. | |
as self-sufficient as we can. We have to be very careful about how we | :52:13. | :52:19. | |
subsidise things. It is an issue of biofuels will be at over subsidised | :52:19. | :52:23. | |
and often it is not a green response. We have to look at nuclear | :52:23. | :52:30. | |
if we want these lights to stay on. You think people should be prepared | :52:30. | :52:35. | |
to pay a subsidy for green electricity? I think it all comes | :52:35. | :52:40. | |
down to a cost for homeowners. There is a great corporative initiative | :52:40. | :52:47. | |
for solar panels for residential homes. For business to invest in | :52:47. | :52:51. | |
clean technology we need a government that has conceded policy | :52:51. | :52:57. | |
that restores confident. We cannot have people voting against clean | :52:57. | :53:07. | |
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clean energy. There is a subsidy, isn't there? We have to get it | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
right. We cannot be pragmatic. If we do not get this right we have two | :53:15. | :53:21. | |
import energy from countries that have a monopoly on energy sources. | :53:21. | :53:26. | |
OK, thank you. Time to take a spin through this week's other political | :53:26. | :53:31. | |
stories in our 60 second round-up. One of the main commuter routes | :53:31. | :53:34. | |
through the west is to be widened thanks to the governments plans to | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
invest in new infrastructure projects. The A303 through Wiltshire | :53:38. | :53:44. | |
and Somerset will all be made dual carriageway. The Chief Constable of | :53:44. | :53:47. | |
Avon and Somerset police appeared to give away a little more than he | :53:47. | :53:50. | |
should about the badger cull this week, indicating it wouldn't start | :53:50. | :53:56. | |
till August. Our sources say DEFRA were very upset. Few issues have | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
provoked such controversy in Bristol as the Mayor's resident parking zone | :53:59. | :54:02. | |
roll out. This week he promised to listen more after drastically | :54:03. | :54:12. | |
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scaling back the plans. I'm very pleased. I clearly kicked up a | :54:14. | :54:18. | |
hornet's nest. Last weekend I thought I had to take the sting out | :54:18. | :54:23. | |
of this. She's on the programme today and this week she made the | :54:23. | :54:31. | |
headlines for taking on Labour's record on the NHS. Will be Prime | :54:31. | :54:35. | |
Minister support a root and branch review of the cover-up within the | :54:35. | :54:42. | |
last decade? How worried are you about those cover-ups that we in | :54:42. | :54:47. | |
healing about? I think it is appalling. Three reports in 2000 and | :54:47. | :54:53. | |
a warning of a culture of fear and bullying within the NHS. That | :54:53. | :54:56. | |
actually cost lives, people have actually died because of cover-ups. | :54:56. | :55:03. | |
The more you look at it either that Mafia like network whose key aim is | :55:03. | :55:07. | |
to stop any bad news coming out of the NHS, I think it is a massive | :55:07. | :55:12. | |
scandal. Do you think people have lost confidence in the NHS because | :55:12. | :55:22. | |
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of this? I hope not. We must not use the NHS to get reform as a fig leaf | :55:24. | :55:30. | |
of privatisation. We have to look at how we can reform public services to | :55:30. | :55:39. | |
be cost-efficient. People are dying. Exactly, that is why be need to get | :55:39. | :55:47. | |
this right. The last secretary of state for health was talking about | :55:47. | :55:52. | |
reports last weekend in the Sunday newspapers. We have two have public | :55:52. | :55:55. | |
services that deliver for people in this country and across Bristol. | :55:55. | :55:58. | |
That's all we've got time for this week. Thank you to Charlotte and | :55:58. | :56:02. | |
Darren for joining us. Don't forget if you want to get in touch with | :56:02. | :56:05. |