Mon, 19 Sep 2011 Taro Naw


Mon, 19 Sep 2011

Taro 9 yn ymchwilio i gynlluniau dadleuol i adeiladu llosgydd gwastraff ger Merthyr Tudful. Mae'r rhaglen yn teithio i'r Unol Daleithiau i ddarganfod mwy am y cwmni y tu �l i'r cynlluniau.


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Good evening and welcome to Taro Naw.

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# We don't want incineration... #

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Downing Street, a fortnight ago.

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Protesters present a petition opposing plans...

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..to build a waste incinerator near Merthyr Tydfil.

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It's awful to think they want to put the thing in our area.

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The money going into this won't be spent in the town.

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US company Covanta Energy are the developers.

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Tonight, Taro Naw travels to the US...

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..and hears the company has been fined...

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..for breaking environmental rules.

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How can people trust you when you say, "There isn't a problem...

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"..this is clean, this is fine," when you violate rules?

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First of all, failure is not acceptable to us.

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When you put the bins out to be collected...

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..do you ever wonder what happens to the rubbish?

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One way to get rid of it is to incinerate it...

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..but not everyone welcomes that.

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In Merthyr Tydfil right now, there is a battle...

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..to try and stop the building of an incinerator.

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Owain Clarke has travelled to the Valleys and the US to investigate.

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Welcome to Merthyr Tydfil, an area with a rich industrial heritage.

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In the 29th century, this was the world's iron capital.

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And after iron, came coal, as the industry grew and then shrank.

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But while the industrial excitement of the past has long gone...

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..plans to create a new industry here has caused plenty of commotion.

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There's an application for a waste incinerator to be built...

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..which will create electricity at a site four miles from here...

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..in the centre of town.

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If the application is passed...

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..it will be among the biggest in Britain.

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But there's been a prickly response from some locals to the plans.

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The aim is to develop this 30-acre site in Brig y Cwm....

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..halfway between Merthyr and Rhymney.

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Alan Williams is among those fiercely opposed to the scheme.

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The site, the building, is bigger than the Millennium Stadium.

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The chimney is over 100m. It's 130 or 115m high.

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It will be seen virtually across south Wales. It's far too big.

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If they need this, they should put them across Wales...

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..so the rubbish can be dealt with in their area.

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But it's not just the size of the development that bothers him.

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If you look around here, you can't see many houses...

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..but thousands of people live within a mile and a half.

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The question of how to deal with rubbish is timely.

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Traditionally, the contents of the bin went to landfill sites...

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..but they are filling up and councils can be fined...

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..if they send too much waste to landfill.

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But the Welsh Government's waste policy recommends incineration...

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..to create electricity if waste cannot be recycled.

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This is being considered at Brig y Cwm.

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The aim would be to incinerate around 750,000 tonnes every year.

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The waste would otherwise have been buried at landfill sites.

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The incineration would of course produce electricity...

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..enough to supply the needs of Merthyr Tydfil and Caerphilly...

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..according to the company.

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But while the electricity could supply other areas...

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..the opposition spreads further afield, to Blaenau Gwent.

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Meryl Darkins has lived in Tredegar for twenty years.

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She suffers from a lung condition and takes ten tablets each morning.

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She's worried about what could be emitted by the chimneys.

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Traditionally and historically, the area has been industrial.

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Now we've got unemployment, but at least we have clean air to breathe.

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But once this happens...

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..there will be more pollution in the air every day.

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The levels at energy waste sites are monitored carefully.

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Dioxins are one of the chemical groups that are emitted.

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If the levels are high enough, they can cause diseases such as cancer.

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But low levels are emitted from incinerators...

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..like the one being considered for the valley.

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According to the Health Protection Agency...

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..modern incinerators don't have a measurable impact on health.

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But that doesn't calm the fears of Meryl Darkins.

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Every time I have a cold, I take ages to recover.

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I never recover fully.

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Whenever there are dioxins or something like that...

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..they have the same effect on my lungs.

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I will be more ill than I was before.

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If you want to see what is being proposed...

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..you have to travel some way.

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More than 3,000 miles to be exact, to New Jersey in the USA.

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Covanta is based in the industrial cauldron of this state.

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The company wants to build the incinerator on the open cast site.

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Across America, Covanta operates more than 40 incinerators.

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That includes this one in Rahway.

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Inside the building, they deal with tons of rubbish.

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In this large hall, Paul Gilman explains the preparation process.

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He says they do their best to separate what can be recycled.

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Next, the incineration process.

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Covanta says the temperature and air is carefully regulated.

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First of all you check the air and create enough turbulence...

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..that it's a good burn, a thorough burn.

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A minimum amount of smoke and that sort of thing.

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Then you have your air pollution control equipment...

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..to take care of what does come out.

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This is the control room.

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This is where they regulate the electricity being produced...

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..and the chemicals being released.

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The company says the technology is one of the cleanest ways...

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..of producing electricity, cleaner than coal and oil production.

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The company insists there is no longer any cause for concern...

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..over dioxin emissions.

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The amounts going out are much less than they have been in the past.

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Dioxin emissions would be about what ten families might create...

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..if they burned their trash in the backyard.

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What about those who are familiar with the incinerators?

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Phillip Davies worked up the road of this incinerator for decades.

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He believes the people of New Jersey generally welcome them...

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..because of waste problems.

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These large tips looked like the coal tips we had in South Wales.

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This is a way of getting rid of waste by incinerating it.

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As a scientist, Phillip doesn't worry much about what is released.

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If I had to live close to the incinerator...

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..of course I would think twice about the place.

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But generally, as far as the toxic residues are concerned...

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..it wouldn't be a problem for me.

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But they are a problem for others.

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Professor Paul Connett is a worldwide expert on waste.

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He campaigns against incineration sites which create energy.

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He says the USA are a step ahead of Britain.

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No new development has been passed here for almost 15 years.

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He says this is a good thing considering the dangers...

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..he argues are connected to the microscopic nano-particles...

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..which are released without restrictions.

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Give me a break!

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Where's the science here? Where's the responsibility here?

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Where's the solution to nano-particles?

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It's almost as if, if you don't look, you don't find...

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..and without regulation, nothing could be happening.

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But what we know, and I'm sure it's true in Merthyr...

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..the more solid particles that you have in the air...

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..the higher the respiratory problems, the death rate...

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..the higher the sickness rate.

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That's with particles which are much larger than nano-particles.

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If that's the existing situation, introducing nano-particles...

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..is going to make the health situation worse.

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Professor Connett also argues...

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..that the economic argument for incinerators is over-exaggerated.

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You'll find that this town of Merthyr Tydfil...

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..will be importing waste from miles around.

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You'll be perceived as the dump city in Wales.

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That's the last thing you want.

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In the face of the recession...

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..many in Merthyr are thinking of the economy.

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Geraint Meaker runs a building business with is father.

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The politicians don't care what happens in Merthyr.

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They should come up to see the current state of the town.

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There's no money here, being spent in the town.

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Why should they make it even worse?

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Unemployment in Merthyr is among the highest in Wales.

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Covanta claim the incinerator could be a valuable investment.

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They've estimated that building work would create around 600 jobs...

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..and around 80 people would work at the incinerator.

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Some have their doubts.

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The people who'll receive the money won't live here.

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The people who'll work there will come from England.

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They say that jobs will be created, but who'll get them?

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According to Geraint's father, Phil Meaker...

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..the standard of work is also important.

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The people of Merthyr deserve something better.

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We've lost jobs in the coal mines.

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Factories such as Hoover have closed down. There's nothing now.

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They need to attract money into the town, so young people can get jobs.

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Taro 9's investigation will continue after the break.

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We'll visit a town...

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..where a part of Covanta's site was temporarily closed...

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..following the release of double the amount of permitted dioxins.

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The city of Newark in New Jersey.

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Covanta Energy's headquarters is in this state.

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The company wants to develop...

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..one of Britain's biggest waste disposal plants near Merthyr Tydfil.

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Here, you get a good view of the incinerator.

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That's the New Jersey Turnpike going behind it.

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If you ever drive...

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Ana Baptista was raised locally in Ironbound.

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This is the location of Covanta's biggest incinerator in the state.

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As part of her work for the Ironbound Community Corporation...

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..she campaigns against the site.

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She holds weekly tours around the local industrial areas.

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She says the area is an easy target for dirty developments.

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Because our community doesn't have the same wealth and resources...

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..as many other communities...

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..we are less able to fight off the undesirable uses...

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..and attract the kinds of development we'd like to see.

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We're vulnerable, in political and economic terms...

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..to undesirable uses...

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..that other communities can protect themselves against.

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The group was so concerned...

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..about the substances being released from the incinerator...

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..they prosecuted Covanta in 2007.

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After two years of failed discussions, the case went to court.

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The group claimed Covanta broke environmental regulations...

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..between 2002 and 2008, under the Clean Air Act.

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William Schulte was their legal representative.

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There would be at least a few hundred...

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..of the six-minute intervals...

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..where they would be emitting a substance...

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..in excess of what they're allowed to emit.

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How serious they were, it sorts of runs the gamut.

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Some exceed by only 2% or 3%, others you're running up to 15%.

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Those are the more serious violations.

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The two sides came to agreement last year...

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..without Covanta accepting any responsibility.

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They did agree to install new equipment to control gas...

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..and to pay over 800,000 for a new park in Ironbound.

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Covanta claims the rules were broken when anther company ran the site...

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..and things have changed since they took over in 2005.

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We'd already set about improving the performance of that facility...

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..and happily, the performance has been improving over time.

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I think even the Ironbound Corporation would say...

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..it's a different operation today compared to five or six years ago.

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If the people of Newark feel they're being targeted by dirty industries...

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..and that sentiment is echoed in Merthyr.

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One of Europe's largest opencast coal mines...

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..and landfill site, Trecatti, are a stone's throw away from the town.

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Builder Phil Meaker and his son, Geraint...

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..believe the town is an easy target for Covanta.

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This doesn't happen in areas such as Oxford or Hampstead Heath.

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They think they can do this...

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..due to the high unemployment figures in the Valleys.

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It's like a carrot on a stick.

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They think we'll accept anything, if there are a few jobs.

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Covanta Energy's UK Managing Director disagrees.

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He argues the Merthyr site was chosen above tens of other sites...

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..as it has a railway nearby, amongst other reasons.

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We have to have ready access to power export.

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We don't like to be immediately adjacent to houses.

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We're about 1.5 kilometres away from the nearest dwelling...

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..and, principally, the rail links.

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Back in the US, Covanta's problems stretch beyond New Jersey.

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I'm heading to Connecticut and after a two-hour journey along the coast...

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..I arrive at Wallingford.

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In July 2010, an emissions test showed...

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..that the level of dioxins released from a nearby incinerator...

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..was over 250% higher than the permitted level.

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Covanta decided to close part of the site for a year to investigate.

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I met one concerned local resident.

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If there was no harm being posed to the general population...

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..why was one third of the plant shut for a year?

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If it wasn't harmful, why didn't the plant just continue running?

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One of Bob Gross's weekly duties is maintain the Jewish cemetery...

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..a stone's throw from the site.

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He's concerned about the effect on people's health.

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If you're emitting chemicals such as dioxins, cadmium, lead, mercury...

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..into the atmosphere...

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..and people are ingesting these chemicals in small amounts...

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..you have to assume that somebody is getting ill from this.

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Last year's incident is no exception.

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Three years earlier in 2007...

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..there was another case related to chemicals released into the air...

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..above this town.

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The dioxin levels were too high in that case too.

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As a result, the Office of the Attorney General...

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..and the Connecticut Department of Environmental Protection...

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..brought a court order against the site.

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The magnitude of the violation, the dioxins that were emitted...

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..were two and a half times that of the 2007 incident.

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Also the frequency came into play.

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Two violations within three years caused us more concern.

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Connecticut's Department of Environmental Protection says...

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..that even though public health wasn't threatened...

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..the case was considered serious.

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The two sides reached agreement in July...

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..and the company had to pay a 400,000 fine...

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..and increase the frequency of emission testing on the site.

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Covanta blamed old technology.

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How can people trust what you say when you violate rules?

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First of all, failure is not acceptable to us.

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We are our own biggest critics, as far as we're concerned.

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We set about making sure that we corrected the problem.

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We in fact were the ones in both cases...

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..that discovered the problem, reported the problem...

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..and set about fixing the problem.

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The first people we called after we called the regulatory agency...

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..was the local town officials and the newspapers...

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..to let them know what had happened.

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Many things became apparent as I travelled America.

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According to official records, Covanta's paid thousands in fines.

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The company insists the majority of problems have been inherited...

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..and don't derive from the incinerators they've built.

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According to the company, they abide by the rules 99.9% of the time.

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Whilst referring to Covanta's site in Rahway...

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..where rules have also been broken...

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..Paul Gilman raises questions about the US system...

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..of monitoring emissions over very short periods of time.

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If this facility had been located in the EU...

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..those violations would not have even constituted violations.

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So the way plants are regulated in the EU is different.

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I'm not saying it's worse.

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I'd argue it's very scientifically sound, but it is different.

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Are you blaming the regulatory regime in the US for being too picky?

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I wouldn't say it's more strict, it's different.

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They're more focused on very short-term violations...

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..whereas the EU is interested...

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..in the longer-term health of the facility.

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Covanta agreed to provide details and plans of the site on their website.

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The Environment Agency will also keep a close eye.

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We would really expect to be within our compliance limits...

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..100% of the time.

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It's always possible over the life of a facility...

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..that you could exceed for 30 minutes at some point.

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Over a year, when we look at our emission over a year...

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..we operate well below the levels of exeedance we're allowed.

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According to Professor Paul Connett...

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..a change in mindset is needed when it comes to treating waste.

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We should not be spending a fortune destroying finite materials.

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We should stop making materials...

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..packaging and products, that have to be destroyed.

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A fortnight ago, a petition signed by 13,000 people...

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..was presented in Downing Street by those who oppose Brig y Cwm.

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The decision of whether or not to approve the site...

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..is currently in the hands of the Infrastructure Planning Commission.

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Westminster MPs, however, could make the final decision.

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The people of Merthyr and surrounding areas...

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..are determined that it doesn't come.

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We hope that the Prime Minister and Chris Huhne...

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..listen to the people of Merthyr and Rhymney.

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A final decision on Brig y Cwm is expected next year.

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It's a £400 million investment in Merthyr...

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..which will be one of the largest inward investments in Wales...

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..for several years and it'll create jobs.

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It's environmentally beneficial, as far as we're concerned.

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It's the best way of dealing with our residual waste.

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It's a great plus for Merthyr.

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We're trying to help Merthyr reinvest in its future.

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What's that? Moo.

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Moo.

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Others aren't as hopeful about the area's future.

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Geraint Meaker is concerned...

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..about how the emissions will affect his children.

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It makes me question...

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..whether I want to stay in Merthyr for the rest of my life.

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My business is here, but do I want my children to be raised here?

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Many youngsters are already leaving the area.

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It'll be like a ghost town because no-one will be living here.

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That's it for tonight.

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We're back at the same time next week.

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Thanks for watching, goodnight.

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Taro Naw: o'r cymoedd i'r UDA - y dadlau am gynllun llosgydd MerthyrMae'r gyfres materion cyfoes BBC Cymru, Taro 9 yn ymchwilio i gynlluniau dadleuol i adeiladu llosgydd gwastraff ger Merthyr Tudful. Mae'r rhaglen yn teithio i'r Unol Daleithiau i ddarganfod mwy am y cwmni y tu �l i'r cynlluniau, a'n clywed eu bod wedi gorfod talu dirwyon o filoedd o bunnau am dorri rheolau amgylcheddol yno.Mae'r datblygwyr, Covanta Energy, eisiau adeiladu safle creu egni o wastraff, Brig y Cwm, ger tref Merthyr. Bob blwyddyn, bydd yn llosgi 750,000 tunnell o wastraff sy'n methu cael ei ailgylchu gan gynhyrchu digon o drydan i gyflenwi pob cartref ym mwrdeistrefi Merthyr Tudful a Chaerffili.Ymwelodd Taro Naw � thref Wallingford, yn nhalaith Connecticut, Unol Daliaethau. N�l yng Ngorffennaf eleni daeth Swyddfa Twrnai Cyffredinol y dalaith i setliad llys gyda chwmni Covanta, ar �l i'r lefelau o ddiocsin o'u llosgydd yno, gael eu mesur dros ddwywaith y lefel y dylai fod. Bu'n rhaid i'r cwmni dalu $400,000 mewn dirwyon. Y digwyddiad oedd yr eildro i reolau allyriadau diocsin gael eu torri yn y safle.Caeodd y cwmni un o'r unedau ar y safle am flwyddyn er mwyn ymchwilio beth aeth o'i le. Mae'r cwmni yn mynnu eu bod yn cydymffurfio �'r rheolau 99.9% o'r amser ar hyd eu safleoedd ar draws y UD. Maent hefyd yn pwysleisio nad oedd yr allyriadau diocsin yn Wallingford yn agos at beryglu iechyd y cyhoedd.Ond mae ymgyrchwyr sydd yn erbyn y safle ym Merthyr yn pryderu am record amgylcheddol y cwmni. Mae Meryl Darkins yn byw yn Nhredegar, pum milltir i ffwrdd o'r safle posib. Mae'n dioddef yn barod o gyflwr ar ei hysgyfaint ac felly'n poeni am yr effaith allai unrhyw allyriannau gael ar ei hiechyd bregus."Bob tro rwy'n cael annwyd, fi'n cymeryd oesoedd i ddod drosto fe a dwi byth cystal � beth oeddwn i o'r blaen," meddai. "Ac felly pryd bynnag mae unrhyw diocsins neu rhywbeth fel 'ny ma' nhw yn cael yr un effaith ar fy ysgyfaint ac felly fe fyddai'n salach nag oeddwn i o'r blaen."Taro 9, Dydd Llun, Medi 19, BBC Cymru ar S4C, 9.30pm.


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