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Competing in eisteddfodau and getting on stage... | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
..is an important part of children's lives throughout Wales. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
But there's been a call for basic changes to ensure fair play... | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
..for competitors in one of Wales's main festivals. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
When you have problems with intonation... | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
..basic mistakes in the music and those children go through... | 0:00:22 | 0:00:26 | |
..then that's wrong. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
Pay peanuts and you'll get monkeys. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
Unfortunately, there are quite a few in Wales. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
If everybody goes on that bandwagon... | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
..you might as well say goodbye to the Urdd. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
The Urdd is under fire. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
Due to the subject matter and complaints... | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
..the movement refused us permission to film the eisteddfod. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:47 | |
We've found discontentment about the standard of adjudicators... | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
..and the police are investigating after competing went too far. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
You hear about the letters people receive. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
It scares me how many letters there are. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
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A Saturday morning on Anglesey. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
The Eisteddfod Bro Llandegfan is about to start. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
It's a big day for the competitors. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:37 | |
The next competition is the Year 2 Solo. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
It's also a busy day for one of the adjudicators... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
..they'll be trying to impress. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
Is it going to be good? Who knows? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
It's a very long day. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
You start 12 hours of adjudicating in the morning. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
You have to be focussing on the work and concentrating. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
It is a responsibility in that you want to be fair... | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
..to each competitor as well being true to oneself. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
Judging the competitors is the musician and choir leader... | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
..Trystan Lewis. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
To secure the expertise of adjudicators of his standard... | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
..organisers are willing to pay £100 or more. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
We try to pay a respectable amount.... | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
..in order to attract judges of a high standard. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
I think that helps the competitors as they receive... | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
..constructive adjudication. It also attracts competitors. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
An audience likes to see an adjudicator of a high standard... | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
..and if you have to pay to get them, then so be it. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
But the same can't be said for every Urdd eisteddfod. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
Because the fee is so low in some of them... | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
..Trystan Lewis declines the invitation. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
When you receive £10 or £15 after a long day of adjudication... | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
..well, it's an insult. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:08 | |
I know several judges who no longer adjudicate. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
As a result, we have inexperienced adjudicators... | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
..who maybe judge recitation one week cerdd dant the following week. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
There isn't any expertise in that. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
They can't be an expert in their field... | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
..or know about the pieces, so the competitors are wronged. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
He says that usually happens at the beginning of the process... | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
..in the district eisteddfodau. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
So many are held on the same weekend... | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
..a sizeable group of judges is needed. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
Trystan Lewis says high competitor numbers means mistakes are made. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Basic errors are made during a district eisteddfod. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
This piece, Y Pyped, for Years 5 and 6. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
I heard in some district eisteddfodau of children... | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
..getting through despite with this piece despite singing a wrong note. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
There is a C sharp and most of the children sang... | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
Then they went... | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Rather than singing, "My master". | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
That's a basic thing. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:17 | |
It's a judge's opinion. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
A cultural competition isn't like Usain Bolt... | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
..and first to cross the line. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
In the arts, we look at how the person ran... | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
..not who arrived first. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
One person's opinion differs from the next. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
If a note is wrong, that child should be out of the competition. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
It's the same in recitation, if a wrong word is said. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
It's the same with being off-side in football. Rules are rules. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
Llanuwchllyn and the founder of the Urdd is prominent here. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
The National Eisteddfod is now an important part of the movement. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
But Taro 9 has heard complaints of inconsistencies... | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
..in payments to judges. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
In Ceredigion, they can be paid up to £100 a day. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
In Arfon, the fee is £20. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
But one judge has told us he hasn't received one penny. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:11 | |
Some adjudicators we've spoken to say this needs to change. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:24 | |
District eisteddfodau are organized by groups of volunteers... | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
..not the Urdd centrally. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
As far as I can see, the Urdd Eisteddfod... | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
..nor the Urdd itself take little responsibility... | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
..for the district and regional eisteddfodau. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
They don't seem to get any leadership by the Urdd. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
I feel it's now time the Urdd set some sort of formal guidelines... | 0:05:44 | 0:05:51 | |
..for district and regional eisteddfodau... | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
..for a fee, a set amount, and expenses, so it's consistent. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
Then they'll succeed, and I'm not talking about myself... | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
..to attract reputable adjudicators who know their stuff... | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
..and who will be fair with the competitors and the music. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
Squeeze your cheeks and vibrato it. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
The Urdd could attract people like this man. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
A full-time musician who travels as far as Norway to adjudicate. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
He's volunteered his time to coach local children... | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
..to compete in the Urdd... | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
.. but has never adjudicated for the Urdd due to the low fee. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
As a country, we're lucky to have the Urdd. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
But the Urdd wouldn't even consider... | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
..calling a plumber or a carpenter to work on the Maes... | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
..and expect them to do it for free. They're professionals. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
If you want a job done properly, you have to pay for it. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
I think it's exactly the same with adjudicators. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
He says the lack of professionalism can be seen in some results. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
You see it on an annual basis. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
People these days say if you compare results... | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
..and someone's been wronged, they'll say... | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
.."Another result in the Urdd". | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
Somebody tends to look at the Urdd Eisteddfod now... | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
..as somewhere competitors are wronged. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
People link that with the Urdd Eisteddfod and that says a lot. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
This is where I've been since 8.15am this morning. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:42 | |
That's when I arrived. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
Here we are - Recital 1, Room 12. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
Not much glamour but this is the reality for judges. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
The loneliest seat in the world. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
The Powys Eisteddfod and a long day of competing ahead. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
The adjudicator is a veteran with 30 years of experience. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
For her, judging at Urdd Eisteddfodau is a chance... | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
..to repay thanks and the fee is acceptable. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
You start a ball rolling. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
Where will that ball stop? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
Perhaps the next step will be teachers... | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
..who coach children for hours, asking for overtime. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
Can I have double pay for coaching? | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
Eisteddfodau grow from the amateur tradition in the best sense... | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
..of the word. They grow from the people. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
If somebody adjudicates at an eisteddfod... | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
..they shouldn't expect a professional fee, in my opinion. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
I'm putting giving back to repay what I gained from eisteddfodau. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:46 | |
The confidence to appear on stage, the confidence to talk as I am now. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
That's all down to the eisteddfodau. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
This is my chance, for nearly 35 years, to give something back. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
We've enquired right across Wales and it is apparent that... | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
..this is a sensitive issue. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
Several people said they're reluctant to talk to us... | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
..as they're worried about criticizing the Urdd... | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
..and are worried their children may suffer in future eisteddfodau. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
So how does the Urdd, Europe's largest cultural youth festival... | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
..compare with some of the other festivals in Britain? | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
Many belong to a federation that has an official list of judges. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:34 | |
The fee they suggest for a day's adjudicating is £200... | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
..compared with £20 a day for the Urdd Eisteddfod. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:42 | |
It survives and thrives on the benefit of the quality... | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
..of the services the festivals provide to the performers. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
A very, very important part of that is the quality of the adjudicators. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:55 | |
Many, many festivals see that as the most important part... | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
..of the service they provide and are prepared to... | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
..you know, pay for that quality. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
A music adjudicator at this year's National Eisteddfod... | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
..and a member of the federation says the same attitude... | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
..is needed in Wales. He used to adjudicate for the Urdd... | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
..but now refuses to do so, partly due to the fee. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
The Government has placed such an emphasis on education... | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
..and that's our role as judges, to educate children and adults... | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
..on how to improve their craft. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
And this is a good idea. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:39 | |
We are educating children about Welsh culture... | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
..whether it's recital or whatever the field... | 0:10:43 | 0:10:46 | |
..so give us more money to pay these people. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
Give us money to show our appreciation... | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
..instead of saying we don't have any. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
But the Urdd says this misinterprets their ethos. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
They deny there's evidence that poor adjudicators... | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
..make bad decisions and that inconsistencies in fee payments... | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
..are a problem as plenty of judges are willing to volunteer. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
It's a day of volunteering for the Urdd. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
We don't reimburse anyone for missing out on their wages. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
If somebody thinks that, they've misunderstood the role. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
The cost varies. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
Do you expect someone, say a vocal or reciting coach... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
..to give up a day's work to come to you... | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
..for next to nothing as an adjudicator to support the Urdd? | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
Would you do that as senior officer of the Urdd? | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
Not for the Urdd but I have walked 200 miles for the Air Ambulance. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:45 | |
I do volunteer for other organizations. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
But you have staff who are paid? | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Yes, because they work for us. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
For their skills and expertise. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
That's why all people are employed. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
But you could argue that adjudicators are skilled. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
If we employed full-time adjudicators... | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
..for the Urdd Eisteddfod, we'd pay them a wage. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
But that's not it. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
Judges and everyone else volunteer for the Urdd. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
But there are now concerns that adjudicators won't volunteer... | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
..for more sinister reasons - | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
..anonymous threatening letters. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
This is so threatening to a young person... | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
..who puts so much into their music. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
The Urdd National Eisteddfod in Boncath this year. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
Taro 9 wasn't given a warm welcome. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
We were investigating complaints that the Urdd's adjudication... | 0:13:00 | 0:13:05 | |
..undermines the competing and is unfair. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
After originally agreeing to allow us to film at the Eisteddfod... | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
..for a fee of £350, things changed after we told them... | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
..what the programme was about. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
We were hoping to go on to the Eisteddfod maes in Pembrokeshire... | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
..to get the views of visitors, competitors and adjudicators... | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
..on this issue. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
However, the Urdd has refused to give us permission... | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
..to go in there because of the nature of the issue. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
Why did you refuse to allow this programme to film... | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
..on the Eisteddfod maes this year in Boncath? | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
Because I don't feel it's a subject... | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
..that the nation is particularly interested in. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
There are more important things to discuss, in my opinion. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
The Urdd Eisteddfod is important, crucially important... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:54 | |
..and I'm paid to organise it, but at the end of the day... | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
..it's a competition. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Urgh, washing! Washing! | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
I don't want to wash. I like being like this. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
To ensure the competition is fair... | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
..there are increasing calls for better rules... | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
..and for the dispute about payment to adjudicators... | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
..to be a catalyst for basic change. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
I feel there is too much emphasis on the cream. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
The district eisteddfod is very important. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
That is where you win the battle with regard to the language. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
And that is the essence of the Urdd. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Brian Morris has had a long association with the Urdd. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
For decades, he coached children as a teacher and headmaster. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
He's also been a recitation adjudicator. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:41 | |
This element of fairness... | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
..from the point of view of the child, the competitor, is crucial. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
There's nothing worse, for example, than seeing a competitor come in... | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
..and a well-known coach or parent going down to the front... | 0:14:53 | 0:14:59 | |
..showing themselves in hope of gaining an advantage. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:05 | |
I feel, and this is one of the difficulties... | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
..that you shouldn't be allowed to adjudicate in your own district. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
I've adjudicated in my district and seen a neighbour come in... | 0:15:13 | 0:15:18 | |
..with her two granddaughters, smiling at me. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
There are pages of rules for the Urdd's list of competition pieces.. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
..but there is no rule about where someone can adjudicate. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
We've heard examples of people adjudicating... | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
..a few miles from their home, near the school where they teach... | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
..and in one instance, someone was adjudicating... | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
..while their cousin's daughter was on stage. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:41 | |
If we are aware of problems, we obviously change things. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
I also have to say that sometimes when there is a link... | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
..it works the other way and those people suffer... | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
..because they know the adjudicator. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
So it works both ways. But we certainly don't want that. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
However, any adjudicator who goes around local eisteddfodau... | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
..is going to know the children anyway... | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
..whether it's because of where they live or not. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
We have small pool of adjudicators. We have to trust their integrity. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
But not everyone is willing to do that. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
We know about adjudicators... | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
..who have received anonymous threatening letters. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
Following one regional eisteddfod this year... | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
..this music teacher received a letter questioning his ability. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
He was also accused of having too close a connection with the area. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
I don't agree at all with what was said in the letter... | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
..with regard to my professionalism, or any connection. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:40 | |
If that person knew me better, they would realise... | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
..that a lot of what they said were completely empty words. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
They completely misunderstood the situation. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
The letter refers to his connection with a vocal coach... | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
..who had several pupils competing. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
I don't need any friend or person to show me favouritism. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:05 | |
It makes me angry. It really makes me angry. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
"What on earth were you doing on Saturday?" | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
Listen to this. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
"We considered contacting the press and the media... | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
.."but we as a group have decided to send it to you this time." | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
This time. So how many of these are going to arrive in the future? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
Or how many have been in the past? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
"We hope it will prick your conscience... | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
.."and that in time, you'll be able to live with yourself." | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
This is about adjudicating in an eisteddfod... | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
..and maybe because someone's child didn't reach the stage... | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
..or didn't win. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
We talked to another adjudicator who wanted to remain anonymous... | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
..who received a series of nasty letters... | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
..some of them anonymous and threatening... | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
..that tried to persuade her to give up adjudicating. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
We can reveal that North Wales Police are investigating... | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
..and that there are now calls for people to remain calm. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Wales is a small country. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
It's difficult not to find connections. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
What's happened has made me more determined... | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
..to support the Urdd and to go out and adjudicate. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
If people like me decide not to adjudicate... | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
..in the end, it's going to affect the Urdd's ability... | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
..to find adjudicators. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:32 | |
From local eisteddfodau to the National Eisteddfod... | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
..adjudicating is a difficult job and the responsibility is huge. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
To be selected on the British Federation of Festivals list... | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
..applicants have to go through a day of tests. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
The selection day will entail the candidates... | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
..probably sitting in this very room... | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
..looking at DVDs of performances, coming in rapid succession. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
They'll be required to prepare written adjudications... | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
..for those performances. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
As soon as they've finished one, they move on to another one. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
We're trying to emulate what would happen in a festival environment. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
But Taro Naw knows of inexperienced adjudicators... | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
..who have adjudicated in an Urdd district eisteddfod... | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
..without any instructions or guidelines. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
There are calls for more to be done to help adjudicators. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
I've been in several prelims... | 0:19:38 | 0:19:41 | |
..where the adjudicator hasn't even looked at the child. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
They've had their head down and they've been writing. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
What kind of encouragement does that give the child? | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
And then the adjudication at the end is one line and no more. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
Two, three, four, one. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
SINGING | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
Be confident. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
One suggestion is to learn from the world of education... | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
..to help adjudicators do their work for their own sake... | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
..and the sake of the competitors. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
When we have exams in the school system... | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
..we have to consider different factors like tone, accuracy... | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
..dynamics, pitch and so on. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Maybe the adjudicators should be given a checklist... | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
..so that they take a variety of things into account. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:34 | |
There are guidelines with regard to some elements of some competitions. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
Breaking the rules... | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
..obviously, there are strict rules in the dancing competitions. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
But with recital, it's up to the adjudicator... | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
..how he interprets the poem and that's it. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
He or she is the adjudicator and we have to accept their opinion. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
For many, the way forward is to co-operate... | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
..to transfer skills to the next generation. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
The winner of the Llwyd o'r Bryn competition... | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
..at this year's National Eisteddfod... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
..is being mentored by an experienced adjudicator... | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
..and shadowed at a district eisteddfod. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
I've been mentored by Sian and it gave me that first step. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
I think there should be a list somewhere... | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
..for the National Eisteddfod, the Urdd, local eisteddfodau. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
I think the Urdd and the National Eisteddfod in August... | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
..could lead the way here. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:32 | |
You usually have two adjudicators in most of the competitions here. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
There is one for the individual competitions in the Urdd. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
But there's an opportunity to see the cream of Wales at its best... | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
..and give someone a shot. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
It happens anyway. It happens on an informal level. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
But it happens in the district eisteddfod. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
If there is an experienced adjudicator... | 0:21:52 | 0:21:55 | |
..and an inexperienced one, you can see them... | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
But it's pure luck. | 0:21:58 | 0:21:59 | |
Maybe, but it does happen. If you want something formal, fine. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:03 | |
The district eisteddfod might not be the place to start... | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
..but in the local eisteddfodau. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
The Urdd has been nurturing talent for almost a century. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
Some say the challenge for the festival... | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
..is to ensure fairness in the future. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
Everything develops and the Urdd has to move with the times. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
Especially at a time when the language itself is fragile. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:30 | |
I think we need to sit down and discuss it. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
But I don't think we'll resolve the issue... | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
..by banging the table... | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
..and screaming and shouting at each other. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:40 | |
If there's a huge exodus, then obviously... | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
..we'll look at the situation, but that isn't the situation. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
One or two may feel that way, but that's life. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
The Urdd can't ignore this any longer. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
They can't say, "There's a bloke from Deganwy making a fuss." | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
The Urdd has to realise that people feel strongly about this... | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
..and it has to respond. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
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