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Good morning. Welcome. No doubt about the main image of the week - | :00:41. | :00:45. | |
an ugly one - the desperate run-to- ground Gadaffi begging for his life | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
before being killed. I guess few people will mourn such a monstrous | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
leader, but let's hope it wasn't a portent for the new Libya A country | :00:51. | :00:57. | |
for which we now presumably have some moral responsibility. We'll | :00:57. | :01:01. | |
see what the politicians here have to say. From Glasgow we have the | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
shadow defence secretary Jim Murphy, and here in the studio the new | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
defence secretary Philip Hammond, who will no doubt have lots to say | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
about the other great issues in today's papers, the financial | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
crisis in the Eurozone and tomorrow's Commons showdown over a | :01:12. | :01:18. | |
European referendum. So, is Cameron right to take on the Tory | :01:18. | :01:23. | |
eurosceptics? One of them, former Conservative minister John Redwood, | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
joins us to review those papers, alongside Shami Chakrabati from | :01:25. | :01:32. | |
Liberty. But there's another great issue facing the United Kingdom | :01:32. | :01:36. | |
which is running very hot just now. The party conference season is not | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
over, the Scottish Nationalists are meeting in very fine fettle - an | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
electoral system meant to prevent any single party winning control of | :01:42. | :01:45. | |
the parliament in Edinburgh has been confounded and the SNP's | :01:45. | :01:54. | |
firmly in charge. So are we now on the fast track to the end of the | :01:54. | :01:58. | |
UK? Scotland's first minister and SNP leader Alex Salmond joins us | :01:58. | :02:05. | |
from Inverness. Plus not one but two great figures of stage and | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
screen. Vanessa Redgrave plays England's Queen Elizabeth in a new | :02:09. | :02:15. | |
film which argues that Shakespeare didn't write Shakespeare's plays. | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
She's here to talk about that and Driving Miss Daisy, the West End | :02:18. | :02:24. | |
hit play. And we'll be hearing from one of the world's top opera | :02:24. | :02:34. | |
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singers, the diva with the mostest, Angela Georgiou. | :02:35. | :02:40. | |
Before all that the news from Naga Munchetty. | :02:40. | :02:42. | |
Good morning. Libya's National Transitional Council will today | :02:42. | :02:46. | |
formally announce the country's liberation. The first elections | :02:46. | :02:51. | |
have been promised within eight months, and full democracy by 2013. | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
Colonel Gadaffi's body remains on display in the city of Misrata, | :02:53. | :02:57. | |
with growing confusion over how he died. From Tripoli, Katya Adler | :02:57. | :03:07. | |
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reports. Victorious fighters, returning from the front line back | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
to their home town, Benghazi. This is where the Libyan uprising | :03:15. | :03:21. | |
started, and this is where it will formally end later today with the | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
declaration of liberation. But questions about exactly how Colonel | :03:26. | :03:34. | |
Gaddafi died are still being asked. This is the ambulance carrying his | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
body from Sirte to Misrata, surrounded by a convoy of jubilant | :03:38. | :03:45. | |
fighters. At one stage it stops. This man is paraded before the | :03:45. | :03:50. | |
camera. He acts out how he says he killed Colonel Gaddafi. The man | :03:50. | :03:55. | |
beside him says "this is the guy who killed Colonel Gaddafi with his | :03:55. | :04:01. | |
hands, using this. He did it right in front of me, I saw it." The | :04:01. | :04:05. | |
official version is that Colonel Gaddafi was killed in crossfire | :04:05. | :04:11. | |
after being captured alive. He was not beaten or executed, they say. | :04:11. | :04:17. | |
We have the coroner's report. I saw the body myself. There were no | :04:17. | :04:23. | |
bruises on his face or body. If someone abused his body, you know, | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
that was the perfect chance. They would hit him 10,000 times before | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
they shoot him. International groups have called for an | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
investigation into his death. For the time being, his body is still | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
on display in Misrata. The ultimate trophy of war for the fighters who | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
captured him. There are no signs yet of the body being handed over | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
for burial. Tunisia is holding its first | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
election since the uprising which forced the former dictator, Zine El | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
Abidine Ben Ali, from power. His removal, which followed weeks of | :04:57. | :04:59. | |
demonstrations, has been seen as the catalyst for other protest | :04:59. | :05:04. | |
movements across the Arab world. Tunisians are voting for an | :05:04. | :05:06. | |
assembly which will draft a new constitution before appointing a | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
president. The Prime Minister David Cameron | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
will join a summit in Brussels today, aimed at finally agreeing a | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
solution to the crisis in the eurozone. EU leaders will discuss | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
writing down Greece's debt, and how to finance a big increase in bail- | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
out funds. The German Chancellor Angela Merkel, has promised that | :05:25. | :05:33. | |
everything necessary will be done to stabilise the single currency. | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
Brussels is going to be busier over the next few days - summits and big | :05:38. | :05:43. | |
decisions to make about stabilising the European financial system. Last | :05:43. | :05:50. | |
night centre-right leaders held preparatory meeting and Angela | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
Merkel spoke about the task. There are difficult negotiations. It is | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
important that Germany and France participate actively and that is | :05:59. | :06:05. | |
what we have been doing. Now we have reached a more realistic | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
appraisal of the situation in Greece, I think we will provide | :06:08. | :06:14. | |
everything that is needed to protect the euro. The deal on | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
recapitalising European banks has been done but it is contingent on | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
other things being agreed over the next few days. For more of Greece's | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
debt will have to be written off and that means banks will have to | :06:26. | :06:32. | |
take a much bigger hit. How much debt and how big a hit, there are a | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
variety of opinions. There is intense technical debate about how | :06:36. | :06:41. | |
to increase the firepower of the euro-zone's rescue formed. It is | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
vital because it will have to help protect bigger countries like Italy | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
and Spain, and prevent Europe's financial woes from spreading out | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
of control. Services at St Paul's Cathedral in | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
London will be performed in private this morning because of an anti- | :06:56. | :07:00. | |
capitalism protest taking place outside. The Occupy London | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
demonstrators have been at St Paul's for a week. It's the first | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
time since the Blitz that the public will be excluded from Sunday | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
services. Hundreds of well wishers have | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
turned out in Canberra to see the Queen as she attended church with | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
Prince Philip. After the service she had lunch with a host of famous | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
Australians, including the King's Speech actor Geoffrey Rush. The | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
Queen is in Australia for an eleven day tour, which ends on Friday with | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
a meeting of the commonwealth's heads of state. That's all from me | :07:29. | :07:38. | |
for now, I'll be back just before ten with the headlines. Well, the | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
papers in a minute but first let's get Labour's take on Gaddafi's fall | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
and what it all means for our defence policy with the Shadow | :07:44. | :07:53. | |
Defence Secretary, Jim Murphy, who joins us from Glasgow. Good morning. | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
Do you think as a country we still have moral responsibility for what | :07:57. | :08:03. | |
happens now in Libya? It is a fragile situation, and in some | :08:03. | :08:08. | |
respects a dangerous one. Undoubtedly we do, and part of that | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
responsibility is getting to the bottom of what happened to Colonel | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
Gaddafi. No one really mourns his death but we need to get to the | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
fact. Having engaged rightly in the military operations in Libya, we | :08:23. | :08:33. | |
have to engage in creating peace. Despite the professionalism of our | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
forces, will have to engage to try to build something better. So this | :08:37. | :08:42. | |
will be a financial commitment for some time to come? It will be | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
financial, and also political. On the military side, I hope the | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
British government can persuade some of those NATO allies to carry | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
most of the burden in rebuilding the country because it is right | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
that we got involved in the way we did, but it can't always be us and | :08:59. | :09:07. | |
a small number of nations to do the fighting and stabilising. Our | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
forces are stretched in Afghanistan and what elsewhere. We have a new | :09:11. | :09:16. | |
defence secretary of course now. What would be your message to him | :09:16. | :09:21. | |
about the highly controversial cuts that have for been made to the | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
military? Can any of those be reversed? Is it practical politics | :09:25. | :09:32. | |
to look again at some of the issues surrounding the aircraft carriers? | :09:32. | :09:39. | |
Philip will prove he is his own man. Liam Fox in his role as Defence | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
Secretary had a headlong rush into removing many of our capabilities. | :09:43. | :09:49. | |
Look at Libya again as an example. There will be sailors who will be | :09:49. | :09:54. | |
sacked, ships that will be scrapped and aircraft that will be | :09:54. | :09:57. | |
decommissioned. They did a remarkable job in Libya but if it | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
had happened a couple of years from now, we would not have the | :10:01. | :10:07. | |
capability we deployed now. My message is really to look afresh at | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
the security and the Defence security review, to see if things | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
can be done more gently and slowly, and maintain the credibility. | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
will be speaking to Alex Salmond. It seemed the Scottish will have | :10:20. | :10:25. | |
three choices - the status quo, full independence, or something | :10:25. | :10:32. | |
that has been referred to as devolution Max. Is that something | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
that Labour in Scotland could support? May have got to explain | :10:37. | :10:46. | |
what it is they are trying to do with devolution marks, it is not | :10:46. | :10:53. | |
quiet clear what it means. They have got to be making a choice, to | :10:53. | :10:59. | |
be part of the UK or not. One of the things which is clear now is | :10:59. | :11:05. | |
the era of scrutiny free assertion by the SNP is coming to an end. If | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
you want to break up the UK, you have got to have answers about | :11:09. | :11:19. | |
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currency, membership of the EU, pensions and so much else they -- | :11:19. | :11:25. | |
so much else besides. It is my country, it is my flak, I am a | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
passionate Scotsman and I want what is best for Scotland, and most | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
people believe that his remaining part of the UK. One of the most | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
successful nations ever seen on this earth. Tomorrow in the House | :11:40. | :11:43. | |
of Commons people will be talking about a referendum on British | :11:43. | :11:48. | |
membership of the EU. A huge number of Labour supporters would also | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
like to see such a referendum, and indeed quite a few Labour MPs. Is | :11:51. | :12:01. | |
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it write to be whipping them tomorrow? They have a referendum, | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
and a Conservative Party that didn't have it on their manifesto, | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
being demanded of them by so many of their backbenchers. It will | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
remind many of the people in the country of the Major government. We | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
have high unemployment, a minister resigning because of bad behaviour, | :12:21. | :12:26. | |
and massive schisms about Europe. It is the way the Tories seem to | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
behave whenever they are in government. We won't do the | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
opportunistic thing, we will give a gold-plated guarantee to David, | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
that we will protect him from his own Euro-sceptics in the vote. | :12:38. | :12:45. | |
Thank you. Now to the papers. Here is a few | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
headlines for years. The Sunday Times is leading on a story saying | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
University entries are dropping like a stone, this is after the | :12:53. | :13:00. | |
hike in fees coming in next year. It quotes one University in London | :13:00. | :13:07. | |
says applications are down by 40%. We have talked about the vote in | :13:07. | :13:12. | |
the House of Commons, put the Observer have another story here | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
saying the population of the world could grow to 15 billion people by | :13:18. | :13:24. | |
2100. That is much higher than people have expected. The Sunday | :13:24. | :13:30. | |
Express, the BBC blows your cash on 100 leading parties, about parties | :13:30. | :13:35. | |
for BBC staff allegedly. Or I can say is the Andrew Marr Show has a | :13:35. | :13:41. | |
Christmas party and we pay for every crumb of bread and drop of | :13:41. | :13:46. | |
wine ourselves. The Sunday Telegraph - new euro empire plot by | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
Brussels, we will pick up on that as well. The Independent on Sunday | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
has the map of what is happening in the Arab Spring. Finally, because | :13:56. | :14:01. | |
we have Alex Salmond on later on, Scotland on Sunday says Alex | :14:01. | :14:07. | |
Salmond faces a backlash, and that is from Scottish nationalists who | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
worry the middle option of devolution light might make it | :14:11. | :14:15. | |
harder to win full independence. And with me to review the papers | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
are John Redwood and Shami Chakrabarti. We are going to start | :14:18. | :14:23. | |
with Gaddafi. Back in Libya, I'm afraid, and a few more ghoulish | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
moment of dwelling on these pictures of the dead dictator. I | :14:27. | :14:32. | |
was glad to hear Jim Murphy and others saying we must investigate | :14:32. | :14:37. | |
the circumstances around the death. Interestingly, people didn't say | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
that about Bin Laden, but I do think it is important when you take | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
on these great interventions and struggles in freedom's name that | :14:45. | :14:51. | |
what follows should be built on the rule of law, which does not include | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
targeted assassination, if that is what has happened here. You could | :14:55. | :15:00. | |
argue that it is better for Libya that there will not be a trial. | :15:00. | :15:05. | |
Whether it is trials in the UK or the Hague, there are so many | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
convenient reasons and excuses. are in favour of trials. | :15:09. | :15:19. | |
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The thought is worth less and less people accept the general rules. -- | :15:25. | :15:30. | |
in the vote is worthless. Absolutely. Here is Peter Hitchens | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
in the Mail on Sunday. He is coming from the right and on the following | :15:35. | :15:41. | |
page, Suzanne Moore coming from the left. Both say much the same thing. | :15:41. | :15:47. | |
Colonel Gaddafi was cruelly murdered by a mob. This discussed | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
example is typical of the sordid revelations that our government has | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
decided to endorse. The British media reported the spectacle in | :15:56. | :16:04. | |
gleeful columns. I do not think that this is a left or right issue. | :16:04. | :16:11. | |
It is a bedrock issue. I think that is over the top. Did was done and a | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
lot of deaths were averted. Any civilian death is one death too | :16:16. | :16:22. | |
many. The intervention was difficult. On balance, I supported | :16:22. | :16:28. | |
it to prevent an atrocity. But what happens next must be based on the | :16:28. | :16:34. | |
rule of law. The Mail on Sunday has a very interesting opinion poll. It | :16:34. | :16:38. | |
shows that the majority of the public want their MPs to rebel | :16:38. | :16:44. | |
against a three-line whips imposed by all parties on the Europe issue. | :16:44. | :16:49. | |
It also shows enormous support for the idea of renegotiating as soon | :16:49. | :16:54. | |
as possible. People feel we do not get a good deal and they know that | :16:54. | :17:00. | |
Europe is going through a massive change. Surely this is the natural | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
moment for Britain to say, we want a different relationship? We want | :17:04. | :17:12. | |
to be friends with them, but we do not want a government. We have | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
heard Jim Murphy saying that people will help Labour out against their | :17:15. | :17:25. | |
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own liable. -- rebels. Over 100,000 people have said we wanted to | :17:25. | :17:31. | |
debate this. I admire the Prime Minister's stance. He has said that | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
when people want something debated in Parliament, we should debated. | :17:36. | :17:42. | |
Parliament should be responsive. I want a free vote on this so | :17:42. | :17:47. | |
Parliament can express its view. Now you have the government whips | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
putting real pressure on presumably people like you. It looks like the | :17:51. | :17:56. | |
Government will lose some of his junior members. That is a | :17:56. | :18:02. | |
possibility. It is clear that the Government, because most Labour MPs | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
and because almost all Liberal- Democrat MPs will vote against it, | :18:05. | :18:11. | |
that they will win by a country mile. But the public will want to | :18:11. | :18:14. | |
feel that their view was taken seriously and that there is a body | :18:14. | :18:19. | |
in the House of Commons are like to express its view. That is what the | :18:19. | :18:24. | |
electors want, it is what they put us there today. I would have | :18:25. | :18:30. | |
terrible trouble back home if I voted with the Government on Monday. | :18:30. | :18:35. | |
It is not that this is legislation passed next week that would pull | :18:35. | :18:40. | |
Britain out of the EU. It would have a clarifying effect for the | :18:40. | :18:46. | |
future. Why do you think David Cameron is being this then? I do | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
not know. He would be better advised not to do it for the reason | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
I have described. He can defeat the motion, but if he does it in a | :18:56. | :19:02. | |
sensible way, it would be better for him. I find a Liberal Democrat | :19:02. | :19:06. | |
hypocrisy breathtaking. They were the only party who campaigned in | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
the last election for a referendum on Europe and now they have a | :19:09. | :19:16. | |
chance to vote for it. This debate becomes intermingled abide debates | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
on Human Rights. It is very unhelpful. I think we need a | :19:20. | :19:28. | |
greater clarity on this. We have the Independent On Sunday setting | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
out a -- a setting egg some of the rebels. A lot of the brand new | :19:33. | :19:38. | |
intake of Conservative sick -- Conservatives are obviously | :19:38. | :19:48. | |
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concerned about this. These MPs are very disappointed if they are not | :19:51. | :19:57. | |
allowed to vote in because they believe in. Your next story, Shami, | :19:57. | :20:03. | |
the east of Europe. We're going to Russia, this is the Litvinenko | :20:03. | :20:09. | |
assassination. Apparently a coroner in London has ruled that Mrs | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
Litvinenko is entitled to more of an investigation than we have had | :20:13. | :20:19. | |
so far. This comes hot on the heels of the report into Britain's | :20:19. | :20:24. | |
extradition arrangements. It is a classic moral dilemma for | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
governments because every time ministers go to Moscow they say, | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
stop talking about Litvinenko if you want to stop speaking about are | :20:33. | :20:38. | |
the serious matters with us. Absolutely and we're told that the | :20:38. | :20:48. | |
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Russian Federation does not allow extradition of security agents. And | :20:48. | :20:51. | |
yet Britain's extradition arrangements allow people to be | :20:51. | :20:57. | |
parcelled off around the world. That is a good point. You have | :20:57. | :21:02. | |
chosen Greeks bearing large cheques books for your next story. Yeah s, | :21:02. | :21:07. | |
there are a lot of rich Greeks, we are told. The Sunday Times has this | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
story that tells us that a lot of rich Greeks are taking their money | :21:11. | :21:16. | |
out, and taking themselves off to homes elsewhere, particularly in | :21:17. | :21:24. | |
London, so Greece is not getting the benefit of their spending. They | :21:24. | :21:29. | |
are paying a ever crazier prices for land and properties so British | :21:29. | :21:34. | |
people are being priced out. People are fleeing Greece because of the | :21:34. | :21:41. | |
euro. She ramie, another story from you. We have had the London Film | :21:41. | :21:47. | |
Festival. -- Shami Chakrabarti. Phelan continues to be a way that | :21:47. | :21:52. | |
lots of us look at the world. There is a film coming out next week. It | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
is based on a novel dealing with the civil rights struggle in the | :21:57. | :22:03. | |
Deep South, in the 1950s. I got to see it in America over the summer, | :22:03. | :22:12. | |
but it has proved desperately controversial. Why? Apparently some | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
people in the new civil rights movement in America, lots of black | :22:16. | :22:22. | |
Americans in particular, feel that it is patronising. It is to | :22:22. | :22:28. | |
saccharin for the mainstream, and yet you have got to take the whole | :22:28. | :22:33. | |
of the audience with you. We will be speaking about another | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
controversial film with Vanessa Redgrave later on. We must not miss | :22:37. | :22:44. | |
the inflation stories. No, and they'd is a stories here about the | :22:44. | :22:48. | |
inflation letters that the Bank of England governor has to write, and | :22:48. | :22:53. | |
how they are becoming a routine that does not mean anything. | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
Remember the savers, the investors, the people that do not want the | :22:57. | :23:03. | |
value of their money eroded. Inflation is now higher than 5%, | :23:03. | :23:09. | |
and people are saying, get your act together. Time for a couple of | :23:09. | :23:14. | |
brief last stories. St Paul's Cathedral, everyone wants to get | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
married there, it seems, from the royals to ordinary people. | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
Yesterday there was a wedding that went ahead in spite of the anti- | :23:24. | :23:28. | |
capitalist protest. There is a nice picture in the Mail on Sunday and | :23:28. | :23:33. | |
smiles all round. And yet we have this debate about the cathedral | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
being effectively close to the public because of the protest | :23:37. | :23:44. | |
outside. I believe in the right to peaceful protest. But I have not | :23:44. | :23:50. | |
quite work out why the cathedral has to be closed. This is a story | :23:50. | :23:55. | |
from the Express on Charlie Taylor, the new man going into try and sort | :23:55. | :23:59. | |
out school discipline so that pupils can learn more in what is | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
currently bad schools. There is a harrowing story of the battles he | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
fought to turn around the school. But he did it very well. I wish him | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
every success. Let's take a look at every success. Let's take a look at | :24:11. | :24:20. | |
the weather. Good morning. The weather looks | :24:20. | :24:25. | |
fairly mixed across the UK for the weekend. It is set to start on a | :24:25. | :24:31. | |
wet note with some heavy rain and with a brisk winds. By the end of | :24:31. | :24:33. | |
the weekend should turn drier and brighter with more in the way of | :24:33. | :24:38. | |
sunshine. It will be a wet story for Northern Ireland and Scotland | :24:38. | :24:44. | |
with torrential downpours this morning. Windy on the Irish Sea | :24:44. | :24:50. | |
coast with GUS a 50 mph. For the rest of us, it will be a bright day. | :24:50. | :24:56. | |
-- with winds of 50 mph. Temperatures tonight around 18 | :24:56. | :25:02. | |
degrees in the south. Overnight, Wales will see rain. But later, it | :25:02. | :25:08. | |
will be dry with varying amounts of cloud. Thanks to the strength of | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
the winds, temperatures will stay in double figures. There will be | :25:12. | :25:19. | |
more rain on Monday, in the south- west and Northern Ireland. In the | :25:19. | :25:23. | |
East, another sunny day with lots of blue sky. But it will feel cold | :25:23. | :25:29. | |
in the strength of the winds. This band of rain will pieces -- this | :25:29. | :25:33. | |
band of rain will push east on Wednesday. | :25:33. | :25:35. | |
Wednesday. That is all from me. | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
The SNP has an overall majority in the Edinburgh parliament after the | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
elections this spring which resulted in the leaders of all the | :25:44. | :25:49. | |
other main parties resigning, which left Alex Salmond as the undisputed | :25:49. | :25:52. | |
big man of Scottish politics as First Minister, with an agenda | :25:53. | :25:58. | |
centred on giving the Scots a referendum on independence. But it | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
seems he wants to give them the option of independence-lite, so | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
what is that all about? Is he going soft in his old age. What does he | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
say to these critics who want to know about his Scottish military | :26:11. | :26:18. | |
and what currency the Scots would use? I am very relieved. I thought | :26:18. | :26:24. | |
you were going to call me the undisputed king of Scotland! I was | :26:24. | :26:29. | |
not referring to anything other than your political position. But | :26:29. | :26:36. | |
you are in a dominant position. I can remember you when you were slim. | :26:36. | :26:46. | |
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You are digging yourself into a whole? -- into a hole! You're | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
offering a referendum which gives people full independence as one | :26:53. | :26:58. | |
option, the status quo as another option, but this devolution max | :26:58. | :27:04. | |
option in between? Can you explain what that option would mean? | :27:04. | :27:11. | |
Firstly, can I just say that what would be in the ballot paper is a | :27:11. | :27:16. | |
straight yes, no question to independence. Secondly, on the | :27:16. | :27:20. | |
timescale that we laid out in the election campaign, in the second | :27:20. | :27:25. | |
half of this parliamentary term. I know this is an unusual concept at | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
Westminster but we thought that we should stick to what we said in the | :27:28. | :27:35. | |
election. The proposal is to have a second question in the same way | :27:35. | :27:40. | |
that we did in 1977 which would offer fiscal autonomy option. The | :27:40. | :27:45. | |
point I have made is for those who propose that, for example one of my | :27:45. | :27:50. | |
predecessors, Henry McLeish, the Labour First Minister, to come | :27:50. | :27:56. | |
forward with their view on what that is. I am not for limiting the | :27:56. | :28:00. | |
choices of the Scottish people, I will leave that to Westminster. | :28:00. | :28:06. | |
you know, your critics, both on the national side and the Unionist side, | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
they suggest that this third option, soft option, is there because | :28:10. | :28:16. | |
you're not sure that you can win in independence vote? Thought you | :28:16. | :28:21. | |
should not be misled by Scotland On Sunday. I know that is the only | :28:21. | :28:31. | |
Scottish paper you have there. They are unique in their interpretation | :28:31. | :28:36. | |
of the SNP conference. This is an extraordinarily united party which | :28:36. | :28:42. | |
has doubled in size. We had to have five-over spell halls yesterday to | :28:42. | :28:49. | |
accommodate our conference. We are the only political party in this | :28:49. | :28:59. | |
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island who are popular. What about the substantive point? The point is | :29:02. | :29:05. | |
that I'm confident that we will win the referendum on Scottish | :29:05. | :29:11. | |
independence. We will offer that yes, no question on independence in | :29:11. | :29:16. | |
the timescale that we said we would. What currency within independent | :29:16. | :29:25. | |
Scotland have? We would keep the it -- in the sterling until it was to | :29:25. | :29:30. | |
Scotland's economic advantage to join the euro. That is a position | :29:30. | :29:35. | |
not unlike that held by various political parties in the United | :29:35. | :29:40. | |
Kingdom over the years. Would you have an independent Scottish | :29:40. | :29:45. | |
military? Yes, we would, because there are two big advantages of | :29:45. | :29:51. | |
having that, one is that you would be able to decide not to take part | :29:51. | :29:55. | |
in a legal war such as Iraq, or to take part in United Nations | :29:55. | :30:00. | |
sanction the actions, like protecting the people of Libya. The | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
other reason is of course it would allow it the removal of weapons of | :30:04. | :30:11. | |
mass destruction, the obscenity of spending �100 billion on a new | :30:11. | :30:16. | |
generation of Trident missiles. These are two overwhelming reasons | :30:16. | :30:20. | |
for having an independent Scottish armed forces. These would co- | :30:20. | :30:30. | |
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operate with our western allies and We know there is major new | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
investment going into North Sea and Atlantic oil so you would expect | :30:36. | :30:39. | |
revenues from that, but on the other side would an independent | :30:39. | :30:47. | |
Scotland accept its share of debt, which, there would be about �77 | :30:47. | :30:52. | |
billion worth. Yes, and the only thing that makes it Palin to | :30:52. | :30:57. | |
insignificance is the size of the United Kingdom debt, pushing to one | :30:57. | :31:02. | |
trillion pounds. It is a big number and it is only dwarfed by the | :31:02. | :31:10. | |
trillion pound assert that the remaining North Sea assets revenues | :31:10. | :31:16. | |
would bring. The United Kingdom unfortunately has debts which are | :31:16. | :31:22. | |
extraordinary, and the asset don't tend to match up to it. We are very | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
happy to be reasonable, to accept our obligations as well as claiming | :31:26. | :31:33. | |
ownership of our own resources. It is not trust investment in the | :31:33. | :31:39. | |
North Sea we have seen in Scotland. We have seen major international | :31:39. | :31:44. | |
companies, all Jews in Scotland as the base for their international | :31:44. | :31:48. | |
operations. In your waters, do you think Scotland will be independent | :31:48. | :31:56. | |
by the end of the next parliament in Edinburgh? In my heart, in my | :31:56. | :32:01. | |
head, I think Scotland will become an independent country within the | :32:01. | :32:08. | |
European Community with a friendly relationship in these islands. | :32:08. | :32:13. | |
would like to ask you about Libya because the final fall of the | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
Gaddafi regime does give the opportunity for reopening some of | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
the questions about what really happened over Lockerbie and all of | :32:20. | :32:25. | |
that. Would you welcome that, and what steps will be taken from | :32:25. | :32:32. | |
Edinburgh to start to reopen that story and get the truth? I do | :32:32. | :32:36. | |
welcome that, and of course I welcome the fact that the new | :32:36. | :32:39. | |
transitional government have said to our Crown Office they will co- | :32:39. | :32:44. | |
operate fully with Scottish police and prosecutors in supplying any | :32:44. | :32:50. | |
information that comes forward. They have made it clear that if | :32:50. | :32:54. | |
substantial information comes forward, this is an open case and | :32:54. | :33:04. | |
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could lead to further proceedings. I welcome that progress. | :33:04. | :33:10. | |
wouldn't tried to have al-Megrahi request and or brought back in any | :33:10. | :33:16. | |
way? I don't see the intent of purpose in bringing him back from | :33:16. | :33:22. | |
Libya to Scotland. He was released under Scots law. This long as he | :33:22. | :33:27. | |
conforms to the licence of release, there is no reason to do that. In | :33:27. | :33:31. | |
terms of the full Crown Office already being involved in asking | :33:31. | :33:35. | |
for the questions, and I welcome the information offered by the new | :33:35. | :33:40. | |
Libyan government to make further progress, this remains an open | :33:40. | :33:49. | |
investigation. No one suggested al- Megrahi acted alone. That leaves | :33:49. | :33:53. | |
the investigation open and hopefully we can make progress. | :33:53. | :33:58. | |
Alex Salmond, thank you. She may be from one of Britain's | :33:58. | :34:00. | |
great acting dynasties but Vanessa Redgrave has always been a | :34:00. | :34:03. | |
vigorously rebellious outsider who is never happier than when she's | :34:03. | :34:09. | |
assailing the establishment. For nearly 50 years she has championed | :34:09. | :34:14. | |
radical, unpopular causes. Her off- stage life has been one of drama, | :34:14. | :34:19. | |
heartache, triumph and loss. She is currently starring in London's West | :34:19. | :34:22. | |
End, and has two intriguing new films out soon, both with a | :34:22. | :34:25. | |
Shakespearean link. Here she is as an unforgettable Elizabeth I in | :34:25. | :34:33. | |
Anonymous. Are you the gift, my gracious little man? No, my | :34:33. | :34:41. | |
gracious Majesty. I am a free man. The gift is a play. Plays are the | :34:41. | :34:50. | |
work of the devil. Comedy or tragedy? Comedy, Your Majesty. | :34:50. | :35:00. | |
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whom? By anonymous, Your Majesty. Anonymous. I so admire his verse. | :35:07. | :35:13. | |
Welcome. Anonymous there, because the idea behind this play is that | :35:13. | :35:18. | |
it wasn't the man from Stratford who wrote Shakespeare's works, but | :35:18. | :35:23. | |
actually the Earl of Oxford, which is... I know lots of leading | :35:23. | :35:30. | |
Shakespearean actors believe this, but there is no evidence, is there? | :35:30. | :35:35. | |
They raised as much evidence for it, I would counter, as there is for | :35:35. | :35:38. | |
the actor Shakespeare having written the plays that carried his | :35:38. | :35:45. | |
name. It is great fun, this, wonderful recreation through CGI of | :35:45. | :35:51. | |
what Elizabethan London might have been like. But you didn't have, as | :35:51. | :35:55. | |
a long-term actress, you didn't have any worries about undermining | :35:55. | :36:05. | |
the Shakespeare position in a film like this? I hope all films are | :36:05. | :36:10. | |
sent out to schools in the UK, in Europe, and in America and | :36:10. | :36:17. | |
Australia and Asia and Africa. Of course I hope, because I think | :36:18. | :36:22. | |
enquiry's contribute to understanding, and because I do | :36:22. | :36:32. | |
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think this is an enthralling film, wonderful film, I think as I was | :36:33. | :36:37. | |
checking up what on earth I could say to you quickly - and I am not | :36:37. | :36:42. | |
good at being quick dash for this morning, but I was checking that | :36:42. | :36:47. | |
what George Bernard Shaw said that all hypotheses lead to a very | :36:47. | :36:53. | |
viable solution. There have been a lot of inquiries over the years, | :36:53. | :37:00. | |
but it is sort of an industry you know, Shakespeare, so it's not a | :37:00. | :37:04. | |
challenge to say it everybody is rubbish who believes that the actor | :37:04. | :37:09. | |
William Shakespeare wrote those plays, but I do wonder, being an | :37:09. | :37:16. | |
actor myself, and having acted in companies over months, etc, I don't | :37:16. | :37:20. | |
know if it is possible to write those plays while you are working | :37:20. | :37:25. | |
full-time as an actor. So it is that, rather than the argument that | :37:25. | :37:30. | |
he was not educated enough? don't know if he was educated at | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
all. We don't have to be educated to be a very good actor. But she | :37:34. | :37:39. | |
would have to be educated to write those plays. A you would, of course | :37:39. | :37:45. | |
you would. They carry a breadth and depth of mentality and philosophy | :37:45. | :37:50. | |
that are rare anytime, anyplace, and certainly were rare in those | :37:50. | :37:57. | |
times. It does strike me also, Ben Johnson was buried in Westminster | :37:57. | :38:03. | |
Abbey, Edwin Spencer whose poetry I don't like but is considered and | :38:03. | :38:07. | |
certainly was by his contemporaries the great poet, buried in | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
Westminster Abbey. William Shakespeare wasn't buried in | :38:10. | :38:17. | |
Westminster Abbey. That is an interesting question. One of the | :38:17. | :38:22. | |
Stratford argument is that many of the Shakespeare plays came out | :38:22. | :38:27. | |
after the Earl of Oxford had died. One of those is of course | :38:27. | :38:35. | |
Coriolanus, which is a fantastic explanation about a military hard | :38:35. | :38:43. | |
man rising to power. A proud nobleman, yes. Of great nobility | :38:43. | :38:48. | |
and pride and martial combat. you play his mother from this | :38:48. | :38:56. | |
powerful military family. The film has been made in the Balkans with a | :38:56. | :39:02. | |
contemporary Balkan twist to it. don't think it is particularly a | :39:02. | :39:08. | |
Balkan twist. There are tourists everywhere, not only in the Balkans. | :39:08. | :39:18. | |
But this is a contemporary story of the rise and then fall of the sort | :39:18. | :39:27. | |
of brute innocence. No, the more studies of the period right across | :39:27. | :39:37. | |
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Europe, as well as in England, started very early on in the 1400s, | :39:38. | :39:42. | |
ending in the late Renaissance, the more you see the extraordinary, | :39:42. | :39:47. | |
especially during the Elizabethan years, the extraordinary | :39:47. | :39:57. | |
:39:57. | :39:57. | ||
combination in the nobles of bestiality, yes, cruelty, yes, and | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
extraordinary education and culture combined with a love of the arts. | :40:01. | :40:06. | |
That is known as a Renaissance mentality because we haven't seen | :40:06. | :40:11. | |
such people exist at any other time. We remember the art and forget the | :40:11. | :40:17. | |
cruelty sometimes. I don't because I have studied the history so much. | :40:17. | :40:24. | |
Before we finish... I don't know if Shakespeare was William the actor, | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
they don't forget the cruelty either, that is what most of the | :40:28. | :40:33. | |
plays are about. I must ask you about Driving Miss Daisy, a very | :40:33. | :40:39. | |
well known film in its time. wonderful play. This is very much | :40:39. | :40:45. | |
about themes of bigotry. You could connected with the help you would | :40:45. | :40:50. | |
just speaking about in the newspapers. It is a true story | :40:50. | :40:57. | |
based on Alfred Uhry's own mother and her generation, and James Earl | :40:57. | :41:03. | |
Jones is superb. I love playing in it. It is a big challenge. It has | :41:03. | :41:09. | |
got a lot of texture, and the more we play it the more we realise that | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
there is contained in these apparently simple scenes, and we do | :41:13. | :41:20. | |
make the audience very happy. you aged over the course of this | :41:20. | :41:25. | |
play, a long period of time. Yes, I am nearly 100 by the time at the | :41:25. | :41:33. | |
end. Thank you. We will see a few images of that. I admire you to | :41:33. | :41:43. | |
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have that discussion so quickly. Thank you. Great to have you on. | :41:44. | :41:50. | |
I am still in control of what goes on in my car. Where are you going? | :41:50. | :41:56. | |
To the grocery store. Turn down more Holland Avenue. I know where | :41:56. | :42:01. | |
it is, and I want to go. That is three blocks out of the way. | :42:01. | :42:06. | |
back, this minute. Driving Miss Daisy. | :42:06. | :42:13. | |
Philip Hammond has taken over as defence secretary at a curious time. | :42:13. | :42:17. | |
The war against Gaddafi is over, and the most controversial defence | :42:17. | :42:23. | |
cuts for many years have been announced. But Libya will be partly | :42:23. | :42:27. | |
his responsibility, and there is Afghanistan and the armed forces | :42:27. | :42:32. | |
feeling bruised by the cuts. Welcome. Can I ask first bought the | :42:32. | :42:37. | |
same question I was asking Jim Murphy. Do you think we have moral | :42:37. | :42:42. | |
responsibility for what happens now in Libya? The international | :42:42. | :42:46. | |
community that came together to support the Libyans and allow them | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
to liberate their country does have ongoing responsibility, yes. | :42:50. | :42:56. | |
Including us. That will mean some kind of continuing financial and | :42:57. | :43:01. | |
potentially military commitment? will certainly mean a commitment to | :43:01. | :43:05. | |
help them with their reconstruction effort, but let's be clear - Libya | :43:06. | :43:11. | |
is potentially a rich country. It is oil-producing. The military | :43:12. | :43:16. | |
campaign executed with professionalism by the UK and other | :43:16. | :43:20. | |
armed forces has carefully avoided major damage to the infrastructure | :43:20. | :43:25. | |
so the number one priority will be to get Libya back on its feet so it | :43:25. | :43:31. | |
can generate the wealth that will enable it to create reconstruction. | :43:31. | :43:35. | |
That will be the choice of direction. We know this is a | :43:35. | :43:38. | |
country where there are many different tribes with a history of | :43:38. | :43:41. | |
fighting each other. It has only had one election in its entire | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
history. It is a dangerous place and there is a possibility of the | :43:46. | :43:51. | |
breakdown of law and order before too long. We have intervened in the | :43:51. | :43:56. | |
way we did under the UN resolution to protect Libyan civilians while | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
they freed themselves from the tyranny of Gaddafi. They have to | :44:00. | :44:05. | |
work out how to take Libya forward, they have to work out what their | :44:05. | :44:09. | |
future is. The announcement of elections within eight months is a | :44:09. | :44:13. | |
good step forward but it is for the Libyan people to work out how to | :44:13. | :44:19. | |
form the coalition of interests that will be necessary. He was a | :44:19. | :44:23. | |
brutal dictator, but do you feel queasy about the way Colonel | :44:23. | :44:28. | |
Gaddafi met his end? It is not the way we do things, not the way we | :44:28. | :44:32. | |
would have liked it happen. We would have liked to see him go on | :44:32. | :44:39. | |
trial ideally to answer for his misdeeds, not only in Libya but the | :44:39. | :44:43. | |
many acts of terrorism he supported and perpetrated outside Libya of | :44:43. | :44:46. | |
which we in Britain have a disproportionately large number of | :44:46. | :44:52. | |
victims. Still not a great start to the fledgling democracy, and | :44:52. | :44:55. | |
presumably you would like to see an investigation into what happened? | :44:55. | :45:02. | |
Yes, and the fledgling Libyan government will understand its | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
reputation in the international community is a little bit stained | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
by what happened on Friday. I'm sure it will want to get to the | :45:09. | :45:19. | |
:45:19. | :45:23. | ||
bottom of it in a way that rebuilds There are lots of controversy is | :45:23. | :45:27. | |
about the fact that he will not have an effective aircraft carrier | :45:27. | :45:33. | |
for a long time in this island nation. The Conservatives promise | :45:33. | :45:39. | |
three extra battalions in the army and so on. Is your attitude that | :45:39. | :45:44. | |
that is a done deal, 80 is over, it is finished, or can any of these | :45:44. | :45:49. | |
things be reopened by a brand new Defence Secretary? The review is | :45:49. | :45:54. | |
completed and it sets out the broad architecture forward their forces | :45:54. | :46:03. | |
of Britain, to make them adaptable for the future. Within those fixed | :46:03. | :46:07. | |
points, there is still some flexibility about how we deliver | :46:07. | :46:12. | |
the reconfiguration of Britain's forces. But remember what we | :46:12. | :46:17. | |
inherited. We had a massive budget deficit to deal with, which meant | :46:17. | :46:20. | |
that defence had to make its contribution to dealing with that | :46:20. | :46:26. | |
problem. But we also had a legacy of a completely unrealistic | :46:26. | :46:31. | |
equipment programme stretching forward 20 years, with all sorts of | :46:31. | :46:35. | |
items of equipment we were going to buy but no idea how we were going | :46:35. | :46:41. | |
to pay for them. Liam Fox took some tough decisions in order to ensure | :46:41. | :46:45. | |
that later in this decade we will have a configuration of armed | :46:45. | :46:51. | |
forces that is appropriate for our needs and is sustainable. Those | :46:51. | :46:56. | |
people who are hoping that the army does not have to shrink below | :46:56. | :47:03. | |
85,000, those people who think there should be some way of looking | :47:03. | :47:06. | |
again at the decision on the aircraft carrier and getting | :47:06. | :47:10. | |
aircraft to go on it, our day without hope, candy have renewed | :47:10. | :47:17. | |
hope? Those people who have those ideas have to say how they would | :47:17. | :47:20. | |
finance those aspirations. That means cutting something else | :47:20. | :47:26. | |
somewhere else. We have a Ministry of Defence which has more Generals | :47:26. | :47:31. | |
than effective tanks. Surely you have to look again at that? | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
Absolutely, and part of the programme is about restructuring | :47:35. | :47:40. | |
the MoD, to get the structure right for the future, to deliver the | :47:40. | :47:45. | |
maximum punch for the front line. Tomorrow's vote in the House of | :47:46. | :47:52. | |
Commons, a three-line whip, that is crazy, why pick a fight with | :47:52. | :47:55. | |
Conservatives raw only trying to represent what Conservative voters | :47:55. | :48:00. | |
and their own constituents want them to do? Because it is not | :48:00. | :48:04. | |
government policy to have a referendum on Britain's membership | :48:04. | :48:12. | |
of the European Union. That is not what we fought the last election on. | :48:12. | :48:16. | |
Your Own Private Secretary is one of those people who may lose his | :48:16. | :48:22. | |
job tomorrow over this. He may vote against the Government. You are | :48:22. | :48:28. | |
going to lose some good people. a start, my private secretary is a | :48:28. | :48:32. | |
woman, not a sea. By due are going to lose good people and it seems | :48:32. | :48:38. | |
like a waste? The Government has set out clearly its position on | :48:38. | :48:43. | |
Europe. William Hague has said that we need to be in Europe but not run | :48:43. | :48:48. | |
by Europe. We have a clear preference to repatriate powers | :48:48. | :48:52. | |
from Europe and plan to do so as and when the opportunity arises. | :48:52. | :48:57. | |
But right now, the urgent issue is sorting out the crisis in the | :48:57. | :49:02. | |
Eurozone because although we are not part of the Eurozone, 40 % of | :49:02. | :49:08. | |
our trade is with the Eurozone. Investment, job prospects, economic | :49:08. | :49:12. | |
growth in Britain are all threatened by the current crisis in | :49:12. | :49:17. | |
the Eurozone. Just to be clear, whatever happens, the three-line | :49:17. | :49:23. | |
whip remains? The three-line whip remains because the motion is | :49:23. | :49:27. | |
contrary to government policy. Government has imposed a three-line | :49:27. | :49:31. | |
whip to protect its policy when a motion is laid in the Commons that | :49:31. | :49:37. | |
contradicts it. Why his government spending rising so fast? Why his | :49:37. | :49:42. | |
government spending rising? Yes. The trajectory of government | :49:42. | :49:46. | |
spending is falling. Government spending has gone up a lot in the | :49:46. | :49:52. | |
past year, 9%? There are automatic stabilisers, as the economy has | :49:52. | :49:59. | |
slowed, spending on welfare increases, tax receipts fall. These | :49:59. | :50:02. | |
are what are called automatic stabilisers which helped to balance | :50:02. | :50:09. | |
the economy. So it is the tanker turning round slowly? Yes. George | :50:09. | :50:13. | |
Osborne has said that the plan for deficit reduction is flexible | :50:13. | :50:18. | |
enough to allow the automatic stabilisers to work. Crisis | :50:18. | :50:23. | |
meetings in Europe, it is all terribly confusing, but do you feel | :50:23. | :50:27. | |
that we're in a position where the French and the Germans will come | :50:27. | :50:31. | |
together and at last there will be a deal big enough to head off this | :50:31. | :50:36. | |
crisis? That is the challenge that the Eurozone countries face and we | :50:36. | :50:39. | |
hope that the French and the Germans will provide the leadership | :50:39. | :50:45. | |
to bring the Eurozone together, to face up to the challenges that it | :50:45. | :50:50. | |
faces, and if you like, the logic of the construct of the Eurozone, | :50:50. | :50:56. | |
and to deal with it decisively, so that we in the UK as well as in the | :50:56. | :51:00. | |
rest of Europe can move on and put in place what is necessary for | :51:00. | :51:06. | |
growth. And if they cannot agree this next week? If they cannot | :51:06. | :51:11. | |
agree this, the Eurozone moves closer to the edge. We're all | :51:11. | :51:15. | |
acutely conscious that we are facing a major threat, not just | :51:15. | :51:19. | |
towards the economic future of Europe, but the economic stability | :51:19. | :51:24. | |
of the whole global system. It is crucial that the European step up | :51:24. | :51:29. | |
to the plate and meet the challenges that they face. Which | :51:29. | :51:33. | |
means the banks accepting that Greek beds have to be written off? | :51:33. | :51:37. | |
Which probably means that banks have to accept a significant | :51:37. | :51:47. | |
:51:47. | :51:47. | ||
reduction in the value of their greed debts. There will have to be | :51:47. | :51:51. | |
a larger bail-out fund for the future to keep the credibility of | :51:51. | :51:55. | |
the euro as a currency going forward. Now over to Naga for the | :51:55. | :52:01. | |
news headlines. Philip Hammond has confirmed that | :52:01. | :52:05. | |
there will be a three-line whip on tomorrow's Commons vote on whether | :52:05. | :52:11. | |
to allow a referendum on Britain's membership of the EU. The | :52:11. | :52:17. | |
Government believes there should be no such referendum at this time. | :52:17. | :52:21. | |
John Redwood explained why he was determined to defy this three-line | :52:21. | :52:26. | |
whip. The public will want to feel that their view is being taken | :52:26. | :52:31. | |
seriously, a lot of us are voting for the motion partly because that | :52:31. | :52:41. | |
:52:41. | :52:51. | ||
is what our electors want. It is what the pooed as there today. | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
-- what they put us there to do. That's all from me for now. The | :52:54. | :52:57. | |
next news on BBC One is at midday. Now back to Andrew. | :52:57. | :53:01. | |
We are drawing towards the end of our allotted time, though we do | :53:01. | :53:04. | |
have one more treat for you this morning. Let me just trail our show | :53:04. | :53:07. | |
next Sunday. It's a special programme live from Australia where | :53:07. | :53:09. | |
the heads of government from all Commonwealth nations are meeting. | :53:09. | :53:11. | |
We'll be talking to several Commonwealth leaders, including the | :53:11. | :53:14. | |
Australian Prime Minister, Julia Gillard, and our own PM, David | :53:14. | :53:17. | |
Cameron. One crucial note. For one week only The Andrew Marr Show is | :53:17. | :53:21. | |
being shifted to BBC Two, so do please tune in if you can. But next | :53:21. | :53:24. | |
Sunday, October 30th, apparently due to the motor racing, you will | :53:24. | :53:26. | |
find us on BBC Two. Finally this morning, a musical | :53:26. | :53:29. | |
treat. Opera critics and fans spend hours debating who is the greatest | :53:29. | :53:32. | |
soprano in the world today, but one woman who is a serious contender | :53:32. | :53:36. | |
for that title is the Romanian star Angela Gheorghiu. Her new album is | :53:36. | :53:38. | |
a homage to Maria Callas, her tempestuous and legendary role | :53:38. | :53:41. | |
model. Famed for a fiery temperament also, Gheorghiu is a | :53:41. | :53:44. | |
diva of huge vocal and dramatic range, in demand at all the great | :53:44. | :53:46. | |
opera houses worldwide. Covent Garden is her favourite, where | :53:46. | :53:56. | |
:53:56. | :54:01. | ||
she'll be reprising her much-lauded role as Mimi in La Boheme next year. | :54:01. | :54:05. | |
This was one of my favourite roles because I sang it everywhere, at | :54:05. | :54:12. | |
the Metropolitan, in Vienna, everywhere. Then I met Roberto it | :54:13. | :54:18. | |
in 1992. Speaking about Roberto, you has been banned another great | :54:18. | :54:22. | |
tenor. Is it difficult to have another great singer as your | :54:22. | :54:30. | |
partner? Very difficult, but very unusual at the same time. In opera, | :54:30. | :54:35. | |
it will never happen that the soprano and tenor have a career at | :54:35. | :54:45. | |
:54:45. | :54:46. | ||
the same level. I did all the performances and recordings with | :54:46. | :54:53. | |
Roberto. For me, it is very difficult because my emotions are | :54:53. | :55:01. | |
on top. It must be difficult for you? Yes, and for him. I will put | :55:01. | :55:07. | |
this very gently. It is sometimes said that you have the occasional | :55:07. | :55:11. | |
disagreement with directors, that you have quite a fiery temperament, | :55:11. | :55:17. | |
which brings us to Maria Callas. Do you think that if you're a famous | :55:17. | :55:23. | |
artist, you have to have arguments? I am sorry to disappoint you, I | :55:23. | :55:29. | |
have never had one word or two to raise my voice to somebody. This is | :55:29. | :55:35. | |
going to destroy your reputation. will destroy my reputation knife. | :55:35. | :55:41. | |
The worst thing I did, twice, just twice in my entire career, I just | :55:41. | :55:51. | |
:55:51. | :55:51. | ||
left. You just walked out. You are going to sing something for us at | :55:52. | :55:56. | |
the end. There are others which are longer than Carmen, there are | :55:56. | :56:02. | |
operas that are funnier than Carmen, but no operas sexier than Carmen. | :56:02. | :56:11. | |
Yes. There are some, but I feel very sexy in my career. Also in | :56:11. | :56:18. | |
Tosca. No offence for Carmen. In Carmen, we are naked, we have the | :56:18. | :56:26. | |
possibility. To go like this. The character has more. You know what I | :56:26. | :56:34. | |
mean? The sum you are singing is going to be called Habanera? Yes. | :56:34. | :56:41. | |
The composer road two of them. This one, everybody knows. It is a folk | :56:41. | :56:51. | |
:56:51. | :56:58. | ||
L'amour est un oiseau rebelle. Que nul ne peut apprivoiser. Et | :56:58. | :57:05. | |
c'est bien in vain qu'on l'appelle. S'il lui convient de refuser. | :57:05. | :57:13. | |
Rien n'y fait, menace ou priere. L'un parle bien, l'autre se tait. | :57:13. | :57:23. | |
:57:23. | :57:24. | ||
Et c'est l'autre que je prefere. Il n'a rien dit mais il me plait. | :57:24. | :57:34. | |
:57:34. | :57:42. | ||
L'amour! L'amour! L'amour! L'amour! L'amour est enfant de Boheme. Il | :57:42. | :57:52. | |
n'a jamais jamais connu de loi. Si tou ne m'aimes pas, je t'aime. Si | :57:52. | :58:00. | |
je t'aime, prends garde a toi! Si tou ne m'aimes pas, si tou ne | :58:00. | :58:05. | |
m'aimes pas, je t'aime. Mais si je t'aime, si je t'aime, prends garde | :58:05. | :58:15. | |
:58:15. | :58:31. | ||
L'amour est enfant de Boheme. Il n'a jamais jamais connu de loi. Si | :58:31. | :58:41. | |
:58:41. | :58:44. |