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One of the biggest stories of the last year was the unpredicted, | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
But, in 2016, can he really wow the country? | :00:08. | :00:33. | |
As you might have guessed by now, my guests this week include | :00:34. | :00:38. | |
the Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, plus Nick Clegg, one of the prime | :00:39. | :00:42. | |
casualties of the 2015 election, now re-emerging to fight | :00:43. | :00:44. | |
So, that is two macho heart-throbs on the show already. | :00:45. | :01:00. | |
We also have Leonardo DiCaprio, on the verge, at long last, | :01:01. | :01:05. | |
the movie world seems to think, of getting his first Oscar. | :01:06. | :01:09. | |
His new film is, amongst other things, a meditation | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
And, to play us out, we are going to hear Blackbird. | :01:13. | :01:20. | |
That lovely Beatles song as you have never heard it before, | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
in the hands of the classical guitarist, Milos. | :01:25. | :01:27. | |
And, reviewing the papers, two freelance journalists who come | :01:28. | :01:29. | |
to politics from opposite ends of the spectrum. | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
And Rachel Shabi, rather less on the right. | :01:32. | :01:38. | |
But, first, the news with Roger Johnson. | :01:39. | :01:40. | |
International sanctions against Iran have been lifted, | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
almost four decades after they were first imposed. | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
Last night, the UN's atomic energy watchdog formally accepted that | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
Tehran has complied with demands to curtail its nuclear development. | :01:51. | :01:53. | |
The head of that watchdog is travelling to Iran today | :01:54. | :01:55. | |
to discuss continued nuclear monitoring. | :01:56. | :01:57. | |
Our diplomatic correspondent, Bridget Kendall reports. | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
The moment Iran had been waiting for. | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
In Vienna, confirmation that it had done enough to curtail its nuclear | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
programme, triggering a green light to lift international sanctions. | :02:11. | :02:18. | |
This achievement clearly demonstrates that, with political | :02:19. | :02:21. | |
will, perseverance and through multilateral diplomacy, | :02:22. | :02:22. | |
we can solve the most difficult issues. | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
Released from captivity for allegedly plotting | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
against the Iranian state, the Washington Post reporter, | :02:32. | :02:38. | |
Jason Rezaian, along with three other Iranian-American captives, | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
Amir Hekmati, a former US Marine, Saeed Abedini, a religious pastor, | :02:43. | :02:47. | |
as well as a fourth man, Nosratollah Khosravi-Roodsari. | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
All freed in a dramatic prisoner swap with the US. | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
This evening, we are reminded once again of diplomacy's power | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
Well, in essence, it has scaled back much of its nuclear programme. | :03:00. | :03:10. | |
It has cut back the number of centrifuges used to enrich | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
It's reduced its enriched uranium stockpile, shipping out the bulk | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
And it's dismantled the core of the heavy water reactor at Arak, | :03:20. | :03:25. | |
replacing it with concrete so it can't be used to make | :03:26. | :03:28. | |
Some sanctions will remain but, overall, | :03:29. | :03:35. | |
this is a very significant milestone. | :03:36. | :03:37. | |
Iran's oil can flow out again and investors can dive in, | :03:38. | :03:39. | |
ending years of Iran's international isolation. | :03:40. | :03:45. | |
A campaign group has been set up by pro-European Conservatives | :03:46. | :03:48. | |
to make the case for Britain to stay in the EU. | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
The group is being led by the former minister, Nick Herbert. | :03:55. | :03:57. | |
It supports the changes to the terms of membership being negotiated | :03:58. | :03:59. | |
The first of three days of national mourning have begun | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
in the West African state of Burkina Faso, following an attack | :04:05. | :04:06. | |
At least 29 people were killed in the siege on a hotel and a nearby | :04:07. | :04:13. | |
Campaigners are welcoming the designation of 23 new marine | :04:14. | :04:21. | |
conservation zones around the UK coastline. | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
It's part of an extension of the country's blue belt, | :04:26. | :04:28. | |
designed to protect wildlife and geological features. | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
The new zones mean that around 8,000 square miles of coastline are now | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
protected, although it's also led to concern over the impact | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
I'll be back with the headlines just before ten o'clock. | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
I have chosen the Sunday Telegraph. Interesting this story has been | :04:44. | :05:01. | |
given to one of the most Eurosceptic newspapers. | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
And the Burkina Faso story, good coverage. Their political story is | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
at the bottom, secret EU master plan, they claim to have three tiny | :05:12. | :05:18. | |
little rabbits to come out of hats for that. | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
The Observer newspaper on global air pollution. | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
The Independent newspaper, with an interval is with Jeremy Corbyn -- | :05:25. | :05:32. | |
interview on people smugglers. And this headline, a shock, the | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
outfit has been behind before and this could be a turning point which | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
we will discuss. Julia? | :05:43. | :05:46. | |
As a Eurosceptic, I am delighted but sceptical if it will be delivered if | :05:47. | :05:56. | |
and when we get the referendum. We are in this situation were a lot of | :05:57. | :05:59. | |
Eurosceptics have been complaining over the past weeks it is only the | :06:00. | :06:05. | |
pro-Europeans in Cabinet able to say what they want. And this is fixed. | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
But not effectively. There is an attempt to fix as always with the | :06:12. | :06:14. | |
Conservative Party because they are in such a bind. | :06:15. | :06:20. | |
Yes. I love the way the Daily Mail has put this white on black to | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
emphasise how domestic the surge is. People are saying things like the | :06:26. | :06:32. | |
migration crisis, economic crisis, the attacks in Cologne, have pushed | :06:33. | :06:40. | |
the get out over Europe boat -- voting higher. It speaks on the | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
Britain we want to be. And ideological battle between the far | :06:46. | :06:50. | |
right with a particular xenophobic hard line approach to migration, | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
pro-austerity. And the Progressive currents coming through Europe that | :06:56. | :07:04. | |
is, do we want something more progressive, based on something | :07:05. | :07:09. | |
better, on freedom of movement crucially. | :07:10. | :07:16. | |
There is nothing about Europe which... No, it guarantees Labour | :07:17. | :07:24. | |
wages. I am a Democrat, I believe in sovereignty accountable Government, | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
that is what people are voting on. I agree with you, the EU is | :07:28. | :07:36. | |
anti-democratic and 60th, bullying, pushing a pro-austerity agenda, that | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
needs to change. But we should reform it for the better in a | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
progressive way. Returning to the papers, the mail on | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
Sunday about that, looking at potential leaders in the campaign. | :07:49. | :07:53. | |
This story is reiterating what we have said on the reasons why the | :07:54. | :08:01. | |
anti-Europe boat has been surging and if Boris Johnson were to join | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
the campaign, then more people would want to leave Europe which cements | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
the argument against. It is depressing people will decide | :08:11. | :08:16. | |
based on whether they like him. I don't believe in the end they | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
will. They will vote on gut instinct and what the Prime Minister brings | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
from Brussels. Three relatively small rabbits, tell | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
us. So small, barely worth mentioning. | :08:30. | :08:37. | |
Stuff we found out a year ago, look what an amazing deal David Cameron | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
has brought from Brussels, he fought so hard, the others were against | :08:42. | :08:45. | |
him. Three attractively coloured guinea | :08:46. | :08:49. | |
pigs. They are meaningless, having a | :08:50. | :08:56. | |
status in the outer tear, parliament being sovereign. They have been told | :08:57. | :09:02. | |
that 20 years Parliament is sovereign. | :09:03. | :09:04. | |
David What Corbyn is joined to do is | :09:05. | :10:20. | |
address this, to make society more fair and more equal, not just | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
because it is a good idea, because as it turns out it is better for the | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
economy, you generate more wealth. I agree with him in terms of the | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
aim. I personally don't want the Government interfering with when a | :10:36. | :10:41. | |
private company shares out its dividends which is what he | :10:42. | :10:43. | |
announced. There is an -- another policy, where | :10:44. | :10:52. | |
only a percentage of profits would be shared amongst workers. | :10:53. | :11:04. | |
It is no business of Government to interfere. They should parry a fair | :11:05. | :11:11. | |
wage, I am in favour of the National living wage in legally required and | :11:12. | :11:21. | |
being higher. You should be able to afford your rent. | :11:22. | :11:24. | |
That should make sense if wealth trickled down but it doesn't. It is | :11:25. | :11:33. | |
not that, we live in a capitalist society, if people pay a fair wage | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
in a capitalist society, it is no business on the Government to take a | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
share of profits. It is a loaded way of putting it. | :11:43. | :11:46. | |
Most companies are not paying those wages they are bound to do. | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
Yes, they are. Most pay way above the living wage. | :11:53. | :11:58. | |
People are supplementing their wages with tax credits. And it is not | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
trickling down. Do you one a fairer society. | :12:04. | :12:05. | |
Let us move on. This next story. | :12:06. | :12:14. | |
Barely mentioned by Jeremy Corbyn in his speech to the party faithful. | :12:15. | :12:22. | |
Many Labour members have spoken out about the duty for Jeremy Corbyn to | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
back Trident. So much argument seems to be about | :12:27. | :12:33. | |
jobs, the ?100 billion cost of Trident is an awful lot to spend to | :12:34. | :12:40. | |
save jobs. Jobs are important. The issue is about national security and | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
being a player in the world. In the 1980s when the Labour Party | :12:45. | :12:51. | |
was for unilateral disarmament, that did not play well with the British | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
public. Rachel, another story about the | :12:56. | :12:58. | |
internal debate inside the Labour Party. I need to move things on. | :12:59. | :13:08. | |
There is so much to say about Trident and the fact it is being | :13:09. | :13:15. | |
turned into this sacred cow of security. | :13:16. | :13:19. | |
Most defence security -- most defence officials are saying the | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
best way to defend the country is not with out dented Trident. You are | :13:24. | :13:28. | |
turning it into a matter of national-security. | :13:29. | :13:35. | |
This came up in a Fabian Society where Jeremy Corbyn demonstrated why | :13:36. | :13:41. | |
he is so popular, putting together an alternative politics that has | :13:42. | :13:51. | |
resonated so much. Did you say the party massive? | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
A break phrase. I don't think I invented that phrase. Party | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
faithful? Let me bring you up to date! | :14:00. | :14:07. | |
There is a split between the new Labour section who think that what | :14:08. | :14:13. | |
the election told us was Labour needs to be more centrist and | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
austerity light. The other side which supports what | :14:17. | :14:22. | |
Jeremy Corbyn is saying, public support could rates this, that | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
people are looking for an alternative politics. We need an | :14:27. | :14:31. | |
opposition to austerity, we need popular moves like renationalisation | :14:32. | :14:38. | |
of utilities, massive investment in infrastructure and public services. | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
That seems to be the tussle within the Labour Party. What kind of | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
Labour do we want? Don't look at Julia, you will set | :14:49. | :14:51. | |
her off. I can read you both very well. | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
The last story. Nothing to do with the Conservative | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
Party. Blue Monday, the third Monday of January every year, a combination | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
of Christmas debts, misery over the weather, back at work, the slog of | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
the year ahead. The grimmest day of the year. There is very little | :15:15. | :15:19. | |
scientific evidence. What science would back that up. | :15:20. | :15:27. | |
How many newspaper stories are based on bogus university research? None | :15:28. | :15:37. | |
at all. Hard-working journalists would never fall for that. Two | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
hard-working journalists, thank you very much indeed. | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
Last week, you may remember, I was begging for cold, | :15:48. | :15:50. | |
Zeus, or at least the BBC weather studio, was listening. | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
It is set to stay cold for much of next week as well. We have seen our | :15:54. | :16:01. | |
first snowfall over many parts of Britain of the season so far, watch | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
out for that because there will be ice on undertreated surfaces. There | :16:07. | :16:15. | |
will be some fog patches for the south and west. It is cloudy. We | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
have milder air trying to make inroads, and it is called across | :16:21. | :16:29. | |
eastern areas. That rain edges into Scotland to produce snow at lower | :16:30. | :16:36. | |
levels as well, and also moves into Wales. It will be a cold, frosty | :16:37. | :16:43. | |
night once again. As we head into Monday day, it will be the east that | :16:44. | :16:49. | |
will see the bright, cold, crisp weather. Elsewhere cloudy with | :16:50. | :16:55. | |
patchy rain. Some sleet and snow, may be down to lower levels in | :16:56. | :17:00. | |
Scotland. Much milder across the south-west, colder across the east. | :17:01. | :17:07. | |
High pressure builds back in, so we are back to the cold overnight | :17:08. | :17:14. | |
frosts and the bright sunny days. No complaints about that at all. | :17:15. | :17:20. | |
Do you remember, "I agree with Nick"? | :17:21. | :17:23. | |
And that hugely touching bromance in the rose garden with David | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
But, get into bed with the modern Conservative Party, | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
and they will kick you out of the door before breakfast. | :17:32. | :17:34. | |
Nick Clegg, nothing if not resilient, plans to play a major | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
role in the biggest politics of 2016, Britain's future | :17:39. | :17:40. | |
Welcome. You have spent five years with the Prime Minister talking I'm | :17:41. | :17:46. | |
sure a lot about Europe in private. Is there any part of you that | :17:47. | :17:52. | |
prepared to lead this country out of the EU? -- any part of him? Part of | :17:53. | :17:59. | |
the problem is the debate has been so much about the Conservatives | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
debating with Conservatives, and at some point David Cameron will need | :18:03. | :18:08. | |
to switch gear from being the leader of a slightly split party on Europe | :18:09. | :18:11. | |
into the leader of the country and saying very clearly to the country | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
as a whole what he wants and I hope that will happen immediately after | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
this complicated renegotiation is finally complete. A lot of | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
Conservatives think there is a lot of smoke and mirrors here, and in | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
the end David Cameron will campaign to stay in the EU, and everything is | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
being fixed towards that end, and if you think that is an accurate | :18:35. | :18:45. | |
assessment? I think you would like to stay in the European Union after | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
it has been reformed by his negotiations. Is the renegotiation | :18:51. | :18:59. | |
done deal now? Some parts of it are substantial. What George Osborne has | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
been rightly emphasising is that we need to make sure the United | :19:06. | :19:08. | |
Kingdom, as the rest of the euro zone changes, that the UK is the | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
largest economy in the European Union but outside of the eurozone | :19:15. | :19:19. | |
those rights are properly protected. That is a substantive thing that | :19:20. | :19:22. | |
needs to be flicked us part of this process. -- needs to be fixed. We | :19:23. | :19:30. | |
will be hearing a lot about the dangers and perils of leaving the EU | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
but there are dangers of staying as well. For instance the Turkish | :19:36. | :19:40. | |
accession, are you in favour of that? I think Turkish opinion itself | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
has changed dramatically. I don't think Turkish interest in becoming a | :19:47. | :19:50. | |
member of the European Union is what it was when it was first mooted. | :19:51. | :19:55. | |
They agree there are risks on both sides. My own view is that the | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
people who really count in this referendum, namely the people who | :20:01. | :20:06. | |
don't believe Russian admit -- don't believe passionately that we should | :20:07. | :20:17. | |
stay or leave. Of course there are imperfections in the European Union | :20:18. | :20:20. | |
as much as in our political arrangements here. I stay with | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
Turkey, you called it a strategic necessity for Turkey to join at one | :20:26. | :20:30. | |
point, that's another 75 million people able to work here if they so | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
choose, and a 500 mile border with Syria. That's the kind of thing that | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
make people think it would be safer to stay out. Turkey already has a | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
very close relationship with the European Union so we trade with | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
Turkey in a way we don't with many other countries already. Secondly | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
there are very large numbers of Turks in Germany and elsewhere who | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
moved many years ago. Thirdly, if we were to pull out of the European | :20:59. | :21:03. | |
Union, the problem of people moving large distances away from conflict, | :21:04. | :21:09. | |
that that somehow will go is a nonsense. But we would gain more | :21:10. | :21:15. | |
control over our borders surely if we left. I question that a little | :21:16. | :21:21. | |
bit. We had an arrangement with France back in 2003, such that they | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
check passports and we can check people's entry into the UK on French | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
soil. There's no need to reason that would necessarily continue if we | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
were to pull-out of the European Union. I don't buy this idea that by | :21:36. | :21:39. | |
turning our back on Europe, somehow we can wave a wand and mass | :21:40. | :21:44. | |
migration will not be a problem. It will remain a problem whether we are | :21:45. | :21:53. | |
or out. In an insecure world there is safety in numbers. Many people | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
feel they will have to take this decision based on their views of | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
Europe today, actually the decision we need to take is for what we | :22:01. | :22:07. | |
believe Britain should be for our children and grandchildren. Should | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
it be open or closed, or should we be isolated? For future generations, | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
it is important we keep Britain's strong. You are also very keen on | :22:19. | :22:25. | |
the euro, are you still keen on us joining the euro? Where you are | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
wrong about that? With hindsight it is clear that joining the euro is | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
not something I would advocate and it is not something that's on the | :22:35. | :22:36. | |
ballot paper when it comes to the referendum. You were saying it would | :22:37. | :22:44. | |
have a devastating effect on the economy unless we join this thing at | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
the time, and you were wrong, so people will be thinking why should | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
we listen to you now? This is completely different, it is about | :22:54. | :22:56. | |
whether we should stay in a club of which we have been a member since | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
the early 1970s. What I didn't anticipate and many people didn't | :23:02. | :23:07. | |
frankly is that the rules that were supposed to govern entry into the | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
eurozone were forged as badly as they were, for instance allowing | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
entry for countries like Greece that should never have been allowed into | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
the eurozone at all, but they were separate issues, and in my view | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
staying in a club which gives safety in numbers is on balance better than | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
the imperfections of the European Union. Nick Clegg himself, a little | :23:28. | :23:35. | |
bit of how it has been, expelled from the golden circle of power, you | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
have had a lot of criticism for not turning up to vote enough in the | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
House of Commons. You have the worst voting record of any MP in 2015, why | :23:44. | :23:50. | |
is that? In the months immediately after the general election, you're | :23:51. | :23:53. | |
right, I didn't vote as much as I should. It was only a few weeks of | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
voting if you take the summer holidays into account, but over the | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
five-year Parliament I will vote more. Of course you lose | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
responsibility and the authority to take decisions, which I enjoyed | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
doing in Government, but you also gain greater freedom. You were one | :24:11. | :24:16. | |
of the very few Liberal Democrats who thanks to Conservative health, | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
kept your seat. Do you ever wished you had gone down with the ship at | :24:21. | :24:26. | |
the time? No, I'm delighted for my constituency. It's one of the things | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
I enjoy most in politics. If you are inviting me to lick my wounds in | :24:33. | :24:41. | |
public, I don't do that. Television cameras love mawkish! Nick Clegg, | :24:42. | :24:45. | |
thank you very much indeed, and you can hear the other side of the leave | :24:46. | :24:57. | |
or remain argument later this morning when Nigel Farage joins | :24:58. | :24:58. | |
Andrew Neil on the Sunday Politics. Leonardo DiCaprio has long been | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
Hollywood's golden boy, adored by both the box | :25:04. | :25:05. | |
office and the critics. The one accolade that eludes him | :25:06. | :25:07. | |
is the Best Actor Oscar. Well, next month, he hopes | :25:08. | :25:10. | |
that will all change. His new epic, The Revenant, | :25:11. | :25:12. | |
was a ferociously hard film to make. It's a bloody tale of survival | :25:13. | :25:15. | |
and revenge in the wintry Wild West, as a trapper is left | :25:16. | :25:18. | |
for dead by his comrades. When we met, DiCaprio told me why | :25:19. | :25:20. | |
The Revenant was his most difficult role to date, and why he's thrilled | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
it's been nominated for 12 Oscars. I think certainly the conditions | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
that we had to shoot in was the main thing, the freezing | :25:29. | :25:57. | |
cold temperatures. But everyone that was part of this | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
movie, including myself, knew from the very onset | :26:02. | :26:04. | |
we were going to get involved with something that would be | :26:05. | :26:07. | |
incredibly challenging. So, you had to live in the snow, | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
with the cold and the ice. But there was something | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
exciting about it. We wanted to shoot the entire film | :26:15. | :26:23. | |
in natural light, so we had this hour and a half window, | :26:24. | :26:27. | |
this golden hour and a half at the end of the day, | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
which led to this fanaticism, We rehearsed all day long, | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
but everything we needed to accomplish that shot | :26:37. | :26:44. | |
in an hour and a half. I am sure I will never experience | :26:45. | :26:46. | |
a movie like this again. To what extent do the native | :26:47. | :26:49. | |
Americans become the We have seen historically | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
in Hollywood this polarisation where they are either extremely | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
good or extremely bad. Everyone in this film | :26:58. | :27:00. | |
is trying to survive. 'Missouri's no good, | :27:01. | :27:06. | |
not while they are running it'. This clash between the white men | :27:07. | :27:11. | |
coming to the West to extract the natural resources, | :27:12. | :27:14. | |
killing the animals, And what happened to | :27:15. | :27:16. | |
the native American culture? The Revenant has had 12 Oscar | :27:17. | :27:25. | |
nominations, you have been nominated, congratulations, | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
for Best Actor. All year, there has been | :27:30. | :27:30. | |
a chirruping and a tweeting in the background - | :27:31. | :27:37. | |
this is Leonardo DiCaprio's year. Do you feel that they are going | :27:38. | :27:39. | |
to talk you out of it? Do I think they will talk me | :27:40. | :27:42. | |
out of it? Is there too much | :27:43. | :27:45. | |
chatter about it almost? The truth of the matter is that I've | :27:46. | :27:49. | |
been in situations before where I thought films | :27:50. | :27:52. | |
or performances, either mine or others, should be either | :27:53. | :27:59. | |
nominated or a film should be more adored by the public, | :28:00. | :28:02. | |
or critics should revere it more. Knowing that I did a movie that took | :28:03. | :28:05. | |
this much of my life, that we devoted this much to it | :28:06. | :28:17. | |
as far as focus is concerned, we gave it everything | :28:18. | :28:25. | |
we possibly could. To sit here and be looking at that | :28:26. | :28:28. | |
many nominations for this film, not only feels good but it feels | :28:29. | :28:31. | |
like people have a yearning to see It's one of those films | :28:32. | :28:34. | |
where you need that wraparound sound and the big screen to appreciate | :28:35. | :28:42. | |
the extraordinary photography. In an age of Netflix with multipart | :28:43. | :28:45. | |
series all over the place, I wonder to what extent you feel | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
yourself to be a standard bearer Netflix can put a tremendous amount | :28:50. | :28:52. | |
of wealth into the quality, My instinct is it's going to be | :28:53. | :29:05. | |
the spectacle-based films that will survive in the theatrical | :29:06. | :29:13. | |
release, because people want to have the Imax experience, | :29:14. | :29:19. | |
they want that sound. They want to feel it amongst | :29:20. | :29:21. | |
the community and have To be able to have a dark theatre, | :29:22. | :29:23. | |
and completely transport yourself somewhere entirely, | :29:24. | :29:31. | |
and forget the rest of the world exists, there's nothing else | :29:32. | :29:34. | |
like that, artistically. And so, yes, that's why | :29:35. | :29:40. | |
the theatrical experience, We are going to see | :29:41. | :29:58. | |
Leonardo DiCaprio working on the big screen working with great | :29:59. | :30:08. | |
directors again, I'm sure. But less likely to see him | :30:09. | :30:10. | |
in a 24-part Netflix TV series. For me, it always depends | :30:11. | :30:13. | |
on the director. If it is a great director, | :30:14. | :30:16. | |
I'm up for anything. We just lost this week Alan Rickman, | :30:17. | :30:19. | |
one of our greatest actors. Among the many things he said, | :30:20. | :30:29. | |
he's only interested, when he's thinking about acting, | :30:30. | :30:31. | |
in the intensity and the accuracy I believe David Bowie was exactly | :30:32. | :30:34. | |
the same age. That quote is a very pertinent one, | :30:35. | :30:45. | |
certainly for me in this movie, one of the lessons I learned | :30:46. | :30:55. | |
while making this movie because so much of what I have | :30:56. | :30:57. | |
to do is in silence. It was about listening, | :30:58. | :31:01. | |
to the world around me, to not have to feel like everything | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
needs to be articulated, I would say that is, | :31:06. | :31:08. | |
certainly for me as an actor, Leonardo DiCaprio, | :31:09. | :31:13. | |
great to talk to you. After the chaos of Labour's endless | :31:14. | :31:15. | |
reshuffle, Jeremy Corbyn tried to regain the initiative yesterday | :31:16. | :31:23. | |
with a speech laying out his plans to enforce greater equality | :31:24. | :31:26. | |
across the British economy. A new survey this week shows how | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
popular he is on the left. Labour membership has | :31:31. | :31:34. | |
almost doubled under him. But the bigger question | :31:35. | :31:35. | |
is whether he can win over uncommitted, sceptical | :31:36. | :31:38. | |
Middle Britain. Welcome, Mr Corbyn. Today, Len | :31:39. | :31:48. | |
McCluskey gave an interview and is asked about his future. He says, the | :31:49. | :31:53. | |
issue is whether Jeremy will be successful, how long it will take, | :31:54. | :32:03. | |
we have to wait and see. I talk in terms of allowing Jeremy | :32:04. | :32:06. | |
two or three years. Do you feel on probation? | :32:07. | :32:15. | |
I am doing my best to change the debate in Britain about the kind of | :32:16. | :32:20. | |
society we want to live in, the grotesque inequalities, the housing | :32:21. | :32:26. | |
crisis. Those are the issues I am campaigning strongly on. Party | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
membership has grown, party activity has increased, good for democracy. | :32:31. | :32:36. | |
There is a perception the people you are interested in is party members, | :32:37. | :32:41. | |
is that fair? I spent a great deal of time | :32:42. | :32:45. | |
travelling Britain, talking to people, campaigning. I wish to reach | :32:46. | :32:52. | |
out to everybody because the health crisis affects everybody, the | :32:53. | :32:56. | |
housing crisis, the grotesque levels of inequality. There is a moral case | :32:57. | :33:03. | |
Britain has to do this differently and better. | :33:04. | :33:06. | |
To deal with the inequality, you have to win power. | :33:07. | :33:11. | |
There are 2 million people who voted Conservative that you have to win | :33:12. | :33:17. | |
over. 80% of votes are people who voted Conservative. Do you think | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
about those people with their mortgages and pensions who are not | :33:23. | :33:28. | |
your natural supporters, don't go to meetings, not members, do you have a | :33:29. | :33:31. | |
connection? It is right about winning people | :33:32. | :33:38. | |
over. We do that by saying we wish to protect the NHS, not privatise | :33:39. | :33:43. | |
it. We wish to address the housing crisis so there is proper capital | :33:44. | :33:50. | |
housing. There is affordable places to buy for younger people who cannot | :33:51. | :33:55. | |
get into social housing. There is going to be proper regulation of the | :33:56. | :34:00. | |
private rented sector. But we also say to the millions of | :34:01. | :34:04. | |
young people who did not register or vote, there is a future for you in | :34:05. | :34:12. | |
proper access to education, decent training opportunities for high | :34:13. | :34:17. | |
skilled jobs in manufacturing, so we rebalance our economy are not with a | :34:18. | :34:22. | |
focus on the service sector but a greater focus on what we are good at | :34:23. | :34:29. | |
which is inventing and developing new and high technology particularly | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
green energy source. A lot of what you said was said by | :34:34. | :34:38. | |
Ed Miliband. You are saying the same thing. He got hammered in that | :34:39. | :34:46. | |
election, you lost 26 seats. The real question is whether you are | :34:47. | :34:49. | |
prepared to reach out far enough to win those people back and prepared | :34:50. | :34:55. | |
to compromise on your deeply held beliefs. | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
We reach out to everybody because inequality affects us all, poverty | :35:00. | :35:04. | |
affects us all. Such a wasted opportunity and waste of economic | :35:05. | :35:08. | |
development opportunity. There is a message for everybody here. | :35:09. | :35:14. | |
Why haven't they heard it before? People hear lots of things all the | :35:15. | :35:19. | |
time. We have some time to put this over before the next election. There | :35:20. | :35:24. | |
are electoral tests in May. We have to reach out and we are doing that. | :35:25. | :35:30. | |
We'll leave gain some seats in May, in local elections, you haven't done | :35:31. | :35:35. | |
very well. Outside of London, you have been falling way back. | :35:36. | :35:42. | |
We are contesting elections all over the country. We have the mayoral | :35:43. | :35:45. | |
elections in many parts including London. | :35:46. | :35:51. | |
But you are going backwards. You say that but the evidence is our | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
party is working very hard, we are gaining support. Opinion polls are | :35:56. | :36:05. | |
fascinating but not a test. You fell back and average in the | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
midlands of 10% in by-elections up to now. East Midlands, down 5.6%, | :36:10. | :36:17. | |
Scotland down 8%, West Country no change. West Midlands down 10.6%, | :36:18. | :36:24. | |
evidence on the ground you are not reaching out to those people. | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
Council by-elections are an indicator but not the whole story | :36:30. | :36:35. | |
because of local factors. We are campaigning very hard on the issue | :36:36. | :36:41. | |
particularly of housing and health and fairness and equality in Britain | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
which is what my speech to the Fabian Society was all about. Taking | :36:46. | :36:52. | |
our society forward to look at the grotesque levels of executive pay in | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
Britain compared to the 6 million people living below the living wage. | :36:57. | :37:01. | |
In that speech, you proposed companies which did not pay the | :37:02. | :37:05. | |
living wage should not pay dividends. I do not understand. I | :37:06. | :37:09. | |
thought you were committed to bringing in the living pay -- living | :37:10. | :37:17. | |
wage of ?10 an hour. The living wage proposed is less, | :37:18. | :37:22. | |
the living wage now would be over ?8 to stay an hour in the UK, high in | :37:23. | :37:28. | |
London. We would bring in a proper living wage. In the interim, we are | :37:29. | :37:36. | |
saying to companies, if you are able to pay out dividends, listed | :37:37. | :37:40. | |
companies, you should first check your wage bill, how many people you | :37:41. | :37:45. | |
are employing directly or through contractual arrangements being paid | :37:46. | :37:51. | |
less than the living wage. The wages inspectorate shows yes we have laws | :37:52. | :37:57. | |
on wages but there is a lot of evasion. We need to crack down. | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
You cannot ban companies from paying dividends until you are in power, | :38:03. | :38:09. | |
and then you would introduce a legal obligation of the living wage. | :38:10. | :38:13. | |
We will bring it in as soon as we can. It is an interim. | :38:14. | :38:19. | |
In the same speech, you talked about the differential between the people | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
at the top and bottom of companies, you said they should be brought | :38:23. | :38:30. | |
down, how far down should the ratio be? | :38:31. | :38:34. | |
The average pay of an executive is ?45 million a year in a Footsie | :38:35. | :38:40. | |
company. The average wage in those companies of workers is far less. | :38:41. | :38:51. | |
Executive pay has gone up, and relatively and proportionally pay | :38:52. | :38:56. | |
has gone down for the workers. This is not something to be proud of. | :38:57. | :39:02. | |
The ratio is 87-1. Where do you think it should be? | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
I do not have an absolute figure in mind. It should be a lot less. We | :39:09. | :39:13. | |
should study this and take more evidence and consult. The whole | :39:14. | :39:19. | |
process of policy making I am encouraging the Labour Party to | :39:20. | :39:24. | |
undertake its participation, including the wider public. Let us | :39:25. | :39:30. | |
bring in those ideas so we promote the debate about the kind of society | :39:31. | :39:34. | |
we want to live in. Outside here, the levels of | :39:35. | :39:39. | |
inequality are obvious. People on the streets, people driving past in | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
expensive cars, it is not right. It's part of that a wealth tax? | :39:44. | :39:50. | |
There is a lot of debate. It is about tax collection and tax | :39:51. | :39:55. | |
evasion. Not just the headline of saying a wealth tax. About saying to | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
the very wealthy, you have a responsibility to pay tax, including | :40:01. | :40:06. | |
the big companies that manage to offshore their head offices, their | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
processing systems, so they end up paying tax in a lower tax regime | :40:11. | :40:15. | |
than they showed in the UK. And about groups of workers getting | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
better pay deals. John MacDonald said the Labour Party position has | :40:21. | :40:25. | |
changed and you are automatically in favour of strikes, you will give | :40:26. | :40:31. | |
them your automatic support. I don't think he said exactly that, | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
what he said but I don't know exactly, I am sure you are about to | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
quote. The view is straightforward, if | :40:41. | :40:43. | |
there is industrial action, we should automatically now come | :40:44. | :40:48. | |
alongside our brothers and sisters in the trade unions and support | :40:49. | :40:52. | |
them. John is saying his instinctive | :40:53. | :40:59. | |
position. For a lot of people, that we should support those people | :41:00. | :41:03. | |
defending their position, in some cases, it improved their position. | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
That is why we are supporting the junior doctors in their reasonable | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
campaign, supporting the nurses to protect their bursaries. So we get a | :41:13. | :41:17. | |
better health service. All strikes, has there ever been a | :41:18. | :41:21. | |
strike you didn't support? I am sure there has been. | :41:22. | :41:26. | |
Junior doctors, that would be more effective if other groups of workers | :41:27. | :41:32. | |
who agree and see this as protecting their NHS could go on strike in | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
support, would you repeal the Conservative visitation which | :41:38. | :41:40. | |
forbids sympathy action? The junior doctors would be far | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
better served if we had a Health Secretary prepared to get involved, | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
beat them and look for a solution. There is no dispute in Scotland or | :41:50. | :41:54. | |
Wales. Those governments have come to reasonable agreements, why can't | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
Jeremy Hunt do the same? My question was about sympathy | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
action and if you would remove that legislation? | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
I think it should be legal here. You would repeal those Tory laws. Of | :42:08. | :42:13. | |
course. No one willingly goes on strike, it is an ultimate weapon. | :42:14. | :42:20. | |
Anyone who goes on strike is making an enormous sacrifice, they don't | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
get paid, they suffer a great deal as a result. | :42:26. | :42:29. | |
Let us look at the causes of the upset by the band the symptoms. | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
So you would allow sympathy action, what about the closed shop? | :42:34. | :42:39. | |
The closed shop, I would leave it as it is. | :42:40. | :42:46. | |
Flying pickets? Flying pickets or a term first used in 1972 or | :42:47. | :42:53. | |
thereabouts, people moving around showing support in a difficult | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
industrial dispute. We have to look at the question not | :42:59. | :43:03. | |
of what trade unions are forced to do, but the causes of the problems. | :43:04. | :43:08. | |
Who would have thought the BMA for the first time in 40 years would be | :43:09. | :43:14. | |
taking industrial action? A demonstration of far out of touch | :43:15. | :43:17. | |
this Government has become and its Health Secretary. | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
You would be in favour of secondary picketing and sympathy strikes. Some | :43:23. | :43:27. | |
say this is your problem, you think back to the 70s when the country was | :43:28. | :43:31. | |
on the edge of chaos and people thought the trade unions then simply | :43:32. | :43:36. | |
had too much power, do you agree? What we were doing in the 1970s was | :43:37. | :43:43. | |
trying to campaign for a minimum wage, what we are looking forward to | :43:44. | :43:49. | |
is a 21st century, are we going down the road of the continuing grotesque | :43:50. | :43:56. | |
levels of inequality in society, or regenerating ourselves as a | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
high-tech, efficient manufacturing economy with good quality public | :44:01. | :44:04. | |
services, properly paid public service workers, and a higher tax | :44:05. | :44:09. | |
income because of the higher wages and higher levels of investment in | :44:10. | :44:15. | |
industry which makes the whole society better off? What is holding | :44:16. | :44:22. | |
us back? You have said some of the money | :44:23. | :44:27. | |
going into Trident you would want to divert into green technologies to | :44:28. | :44:34. | |
soak up the employment issues. We are consulting, Emily Thornbury | :44:35. | :44:38. | |
has drawn up an interesting document. That is out for | :44:39. | :44:44. | |
consultation as of Friday. The point I have made always is that I | :44:45. | :44:49. | |
recognise that if there is to be a change in the Trident programme and | :44:50. | :44:52. | |
I would want there to be, the first priority has to be to protect those | :44:53. | :44:58. | |
jobs, redirect investment into those yards and factories and companies | :44:59. | :45:03. | |
that would be making material and systems to go the Trident said their | :45:04. | :45:05. | |
jobs are protected. Len McCluskey again said yesterday | :45:06. | :45:18. | |
at the Scottish conference that the policy of getting rid of Trident | :45:19. | :45:23. | |
would devastate communities and jobs, and he was wholly against it. | :45:24. | :45:28. | |
I have had that discussion with Len McCluskey, with numbers of other | :45:29. | :45:33. | |
people, and will be continuing to have those discussions. Other | :45:34. | :45:38. | |
countries do things differently. We have amazing skills and amazing | :45:39. | :45:41. | |
technology available in this country. Obviously my instinct is | :45:42. | :45:46. | |
that we should use it differently, my instinct is that greater security | :45:47. | :45:50. | |
in the world is not achieved with nuclear weapons, it's achieved by | :45:51. | :45:54. | |
addressing the causes of insecurity. There are plenty in the military who | :45:55. | :46:00. | |
would agree with me on that. There are many in the Labour Party who | :46:01. | :46:04. | |
don't. It is a debate within the party, it's not a secret. You gave | :46:05. | :46:12. | |
an interview to the independent on-site -- on Sunday in which you | :46:13. | :46:20. | |
said it was not a binary decision, what did you mean by that? There may | :46:21. | :46:27. | |
well be a discussion on considering further because the Government is in | :46:28. | :46:31. | |
arguments about the cost of the whole programme. Many in the | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
military are worried about the focus of so much expenditure on nuclear | :46:36. | :46:39. | |
weapons when they are looking at more conventional issues and of | :46:40. | :46:44. | |
course issues of insecurity around the world. When you say it's not | :46:45. | :46:50. | |
binary, is there an implication Jeremy Corbyn might support a | :46:51. | :46:53. | |
reduction in the nuclear deterrent without going the whole hog ending | :46:54. | :46:58. | |
it straightaway? You shouldn't read so much into one sentence in an | :46:59. | :47:01. | |
interview. My views on nuclear weapons are very well-known, and I | :47:02. | :47:08. | |
want to see a nuclear free world, I want to see us playing a full role | :47:09. | :47:15. | |
in the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, I want to see a | :47:16. | :47:20. | |
de-escalation in nuclear potentials around the world. I sometimes wonder | :47:21. | :47:26. | |
if this whole Trident debate in the Labour Party is a nonsense because | :47:27. | :47:30. | |
we know you have said you would never press the button, and if you | :47:31. | :47:34. | |
were a Labour Party Prime Minister therefore there would never be a | :47:35. | :47:39. | |
nuclear deterrent. If you have made it clear you won't use it, there is | :47:40. | :47:44. | |
no deterrent anyway. The real issue is are we going to play our part in | :47:45. | :47:47. | |
the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. That was a missed | :47:48. | :47:55. | |
opportunity in May, I want to pay -- play a full part in the nuclear | :47:56. | :48:06. | |
Non-Proliferation Treaty which requires the countries that have | :48:07. | :48:09. | |
signed it not to develop or create nuclear weapons. If we have these | :48:10. | :48:15. | |
submarines packed with nuclear weapons circling the globe and the | :48:16. | :48:18. | |
Prime Minister has said I will never use them, it is not a deterrent | :48:19. | :48:26. | |
anyway. They don't have to have nuclear warheads on them. If anybody | :48:27. | :48:33. | |
uses on nuclear weapons, it is catastrophic for the whole globe. I | :48:34. | :48:37. | |
don't believe David Cameron would use it either. So you don't think | :48:38. | :48:43. | |
the deterrent exist as a deterrent any more? The nuclear deterrent | :48:44. | :48:51. | |
exist from the Cold War generation, I don't think today they are | :48:52. | :48:55. | |
solution for that. Look at the disaster of 9/11, when nuclear | :48:56. | :49:02. | |
weapons any help? No, they were not. We have achieved a big step forward | :49:03. | :49:07. | |
with Iran, that is the way forward, diplomacy comes first. You have | :49:08. | :49:13. | |
suggested just now one answer might be to keep the Trident submarines | :49:14. | :49:15. | |
but without nuclear weapons on board. There are options there. The | :49:16. | :49:22. | |
paper Emily Thornberry has put forward is very interesting one, it | :49:23. | :49:26. | |
deserves a good study of it and I hope there will be a mature response | :49:27. | :49:32. | |
to what is a very and hopefully mature debate about the nature of | :49:33. | :49:35. | |
security and insecurity, the nature of the way in which we protect | :49:36. | :49:39. | |
ourselves from insecurity, and we bring about a more secure world as a | :49:40. | :49:44. | |
result. Moving to another part of the insecure world we have been | :49:45. | :49:50. | |
talking about, Syria. The city of Madaya has-been so-called by | :49:51. | :50:00. | |
Hezbollah. You have had dialogue with Hezbollah, have you any roots | :50:01. | :50:04. | |
back to them? Can you persuade them to stop that siege because what they | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
are doing is a war crime. What I would say to them and everybody else | :50:10. | :50:12. | |
involved in the conflict in Syria, listen to the wise words of Ban | :50:13. | :50:18. | |
Ki-Moon, when he said, to use food as a weapon of war is a war crime. I | :50:19. | :50:23. | |
hope they are hearing this. Anyone who commits a war crime will face | :50:24. | :50:28. | |
the consequences of that at some point in the future. That is my | :50:29. | :50:33. | |
message to Hezbollah, to the Syrian government, to Isil or anyone else. | :50:34. | :50:39. | |
Back at the time of the IRA flood, as it were, the Government said no | :50:40. | :50:46. | |
talking to terrorists. People like you who suggest talking to | :50:47. | :50:49. | |
terrorists are themselves like terrorists. We now know they were | :50:50. | :50:54. | |
talking to the IRA from very early stages. Obviously, Isis cannot be | :50:55. | :50:58. | |
part of the Vienna talks at the moment, but do you think there | :50:59. | :51:02. | |
should be a back channel, should we be talking to Isis and making some | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
kind of contact with them? The British government maintained a | :51:08. | :51:10. | |
channel to the IRA all through the trouble is, I don't condemn them for | :51:11. | :51:15. | |
that. I don't condemn them for keeping the back channel to the | :51:16. | :51:20. | |
Taliban. You have got to look at the relationship with many countries... | :51:21. | :51:27. | |
There has got to be some route through somewhere. A lot of the | :51:28. | :51:32. | |
commanders in Isil, particularly in Iraq, are actually former officers | :51:33. | :51:37. | |
in the Iraqi army because we made many catastrophic mistakes, one of | :51:38. | :51:43. | |
which was to destroy the whole Iraqi State structure in 2003. So do you | :51:44. | :51:48. | |
think we could have a dialogue with these people? Dialogue is perhaps | :51:49. | :51:53. | |
the wrong word. There has got to be some understanding of their strong | :51:54. | :51:56. | |
points and weak points and how we can challenge their ideology. I | :51:57. | :52:01. | |
believe that the neighbouring governments in the region are in | :52:02. | :52:06. | |
touch. Look at the way in which there has been some degree at times | :52:07. | :52:10. | |
of prisoner exchange, hostage exchange. We have got to bring about | :52:11. | :52:16. | |
a political solution in Syria. Vienna has made a lot of progress, | :52:17. | :52:20. | |
it has got to go a lot further and faster, there has got to be peace. | :52:21. | :52:24. | |
But war crimes have got to be addressed. We have a new president | :52:25. | :52:30. | |
of Argentina who said he wants to have negotiations about sovereignty | :52:31. | :52:33. | |
and so forth over the Falklands. You have said in the past that you think | :52:34. | :52:38. | |
such negotiations should take place and there should be a role for the | :52:39. | :52:43. | |
Islanders. My question is should the islanders have any veto over the | :52:44. | :52:48. | |
talks? There has got to be some discussion, it seems ridiculous that | :52:49. | :52:54. | |
in the 21st century we would be getting into some enormous conflict | :52:55. | :52:57. | |
with Argentina about the islands just off it. Of course the islanders | :52:58. | :53:02. | |
have a say in this, let's bring about some sensible dialogue. An | :53:03. | :53:07. | |
enormous say but not veto perhaps? They have got a right to stay where | :53:08. | :53:11. | |
they are, they have got a right to decide on their own future and that | :53:12. | :53:16. | |
would be part of it. Let's not set agendas in advance. What did you | :53:17. | :53:23. | |
think about the original war? I thought the original war was a | :53:24. | :53:27. | |
problem for both countries in the sense that Galtieri was a deeply | :53:28. | :53:34. | |
unpopular dictator in Argentina. I thought President Terry of the room | :53:35. | :53:38. | |
was trying to make enormous progress both bringing about a UN resolution | :53:39. | :53:43. | |
to it, and then we have the disaster of the sinking of the Belgrano and | :53:44. | :53:46. | |
the whole situation got worse as a result of that. Surely in the | :53:47. | :53:51. | |
21st-century we can do better than going to war over these things. For | :53:52. | :53:57. | |
now, thank you very much indeed. Now, over to Roger | :53:58. | :53:58. | |
for the news headlines. International sanctions | :53:59. | :54:00. | |
against Iran have been lifted, almost 40 years after | :54:01. | :54:02. | |
they were first imposed. The development came late last | :54:03. | :54:05. | |
night, as the UN verified that Iran had complied with demands | :54:06. | :54:08. | |
to dismantle much The head of the UN's atomic energy | :54:09. | :54:10. | |
watchdog is travelling to Tehran today to discuss continued | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
nuclear monitoring. A campaign group has been set up | :54:15. | :54:21. | |
by pro-European Conservatives to make the case for | :54:22. | :54:23. | |
Britain to stay in the EU. The group is being led by the former | :54:24. | :54:29. | |
minister Nick Herbert. It supports the changes to the terms | :54:30. | :54:32. | |
of membership being negotiated The next news on BBC One | :54:33. | :54:34. | |
is at one o'clock. First, a look at what's coming up | :54:35. | :54:39. | |
immediately after this programme. We will be live at ten o'clock when | :54:40. | :54:51. | |
we will be asking if crime should die with the accused, come all | :54:52. | :55:00. | |
religions be right, and trolling on social media, do men really hate | :55:01. | :55:06. | |
women that much? Jeremy Corbyn is still with me. I wanted to ask about | :55:07. | :55:10. | |
Donald Trump, who has said he wants to ban Muslims from coming into | :55:11. | :55:16. | |
America. What is your reaction to that? I think Donald Trump has some | :55:17. | :55:21. | |
weird and frankly off the wall views. I was asked about this some | :55:22. | :55:25. | |
time ago and I decided to invite Donald Trump on his visit to Britain | :55:26. | :55:31. | |
to come with me to my constituency because he has problems with | :55:32. | :55:35. | |
Mexicans and Muslims. As you know, my wife is Mexican and my | :55:36. | :55:39. | |
constituency is very multicultural so I was going to go to the mosque | :55:40. | :55:44. | |
with him and let him talk to people there. I'm sure he would love it. | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
There's a debate in the Commons that he should not be allowed into this | :55:49. | :55:52. | |
country at all, what is your view on that? I don't think we should ban | :55:53. | :55:57. | |
people coming to Britain on that basis. He should come here and have | :55:58. | :56:01. | |
a lesson in going to all of our cities. Why can't he go to | :56:02. | :56:05. | |
Leicester, Birmingham or Newcastle and see that we have great diversity | :56:06. | :56:11. | |
in our society. Take a walk around any of our cities. Understand that | :56:12. | :56:16. | |
we have problems but we also have a great community and great cohesion. | :56:17. | :56:21. | |
He might learn something. And you will be meeting President Obama | :56:22. | :56:27. | |
later in the year. An interesting conversation about Trident and | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
nuclear weapons. I'm sure we will have a fascinating conversation | :56:32. | :56:35. | |
about lots of things. Including African-American role in the United | :56:36. | :56:40. | |
States. I'm absolutely looking forward to. It We may not agree on | :56:41. | :56:47. | |
everything. Do you want to come? I would be delighted to come, thank | :56:48. | :56:48. | |
you for the invitation! Andrew Neil and the Sunday Politics | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
have a bumper line-up in an hour, including Labour's new Shadow | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
Defence Secretary Emily Thornberry, Join us again next Sunday when I'll | :56:58. | :56:59. | |
be talking to the current First Minister of Scotland, | :57:00. | :57:03. | |
SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon. Plus Hollywood hard | :57:04. | :57:05. | |
man Harvey Keitel. Until then, we leave | :57:06. | :57:07. | |
you with the classical From his new album, Blackbird, | :57:08. | :57:09. | |
this is one of The Beatles' | :57:10. | :57:13. |