17/04/2014 The Papers


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from the women's Super League where defending champions Liverpool have

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been taking on Manchester City. Tennis and the snooker ball coming

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up after the papers. Hallow. Welcome to our look ahead to

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what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me Bonnie Greer and

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Sam Coates. Let's have a look at some of the front pages. We will

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start with a striking picture of holy week celebrations in Spain.

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That is dominating the front page of the Daily Telegraph. Some foreign

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doctors lacked the necessary skills, it is claimed, to work in the NHS.

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The trial for Abu Hamza is on the front of the Daily Express. The

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daily malice reporting on the cost of a 13 year legal battle involving

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a whistle`blowing NHS cardiologist, who had been sacked. On the front

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page of the Daily Mirror, it is dedicated to a story about a baby

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who is reportedly infected by meningitis from the family cat. We

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will start with the Daily Mail. After the mid`Staffs disgraceful

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situation, thousands of people apparently dying as a result of lack

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of care and so on and so forth. We are going to be protected. This

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story will upset a lot of people. That is probably why it is there. We

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do not know yet a lot about it. It is one of the kinds of story that

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the Daily Mail does, man against a woman against the machine against

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the state. It pretty much fits into their kind of ethers. I was thinking

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before, it is a strange story in a way. What exactly is the Daily Mail

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saying other than, here is an example of a person up against the

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system once again and the state? They do put in there was a 13 year

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battle because it goes across the time the Labour government was in

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charge. You wonder why it is on the front page will stop they are not

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telling us very much about it. We can read it quite narrowly as

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someone who saw a lot of issues going on in the NHS and felt it

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should be made public and the system was trying to squash him. It strikes

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me as a rather good story and quite legitimate front page offering from

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the Daily Mail. One of the features quite a lot of the NHS scandal that

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have happened in recent years is the good whistle`blower. Someone who is

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speaking up and, for whatever reason, concerns were addressed and

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there was an attempt to silence them. To be honest, anyone

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interested in the well`being of the NHS would be keen to let the views

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of these sorts of people percolated up. It is an incredibly difficult

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issue. We are dealing with people being asked to complain about

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bosses. No amount of legislation will make that easier. There is a

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new statute you refer to from Jeremy Hunt. Then we have to complain to

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the very Boss you probably complaining about. A lot of people

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would feel their careers would hit the buffers. What I am saying is,

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this is a 13 year battle. Why is it now? I'd agree you to make an

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interesting point. The NHS has always been seen as an organisation

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which cuts across party lines. You do not slag off the previous Health

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Secretary because of something that might have happened or whatever. In

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this instance, that is exactly what happened. Jeremy Hunt and, his name

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escapes me... The former Health Secretary. Andy Burnham. They

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actually were at loggerheads. It does deal to many people as if that

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was the first time it happened. Jeremy Hunt got very close to

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libelling Andy Burnham. He threatened him with proceedings if

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you did not back off. Jeremy Hunt was saying Andy Burnham knew certain

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things and, of course, Andy Burnham said he did not know these things.

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Jeremy Hunt levelled it. As someone born in America, whose whole

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experience of the medical system, we have no health insurance in the

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United States. The sort of dismantling of the NHS for whatever

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reason this particular government thinks is necessary, I find

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absolutely appalling. It is frightening. This kind of story, we

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do not have the inside page so I do not know what audience and outs of

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this are, is another nail in the Coffin of this great institution.

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The fact is, it is a conservative coalition Health Secretary who has

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brought in a law to protect whistle`blowers. And he should. That

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seems quite right. The NHS is going to be a very big battle ground at

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the next election. We saw quite a significant moment in the NHS today.

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We saw the target of seeing people within 18 weeks of a GP referral

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breached for the first time. The Government confirmed that had

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happened because of the pressures on the NHS. It does feel like we are

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going to see quite a lot of them to and fro over the way the coalition

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have overseen the changes in the health service over the next year.

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It is a very difficult picture to get a handle of. It is unclear to

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me, as an observer, quite who is winning this battle and how dramatic

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the changes are that have been made so far. There is a lot of rhetoric.

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I would not want to referee. I do not know what happened in Andy

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Burnham 's office and I do not know if what Jeremy Hunt is saying is

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rhetoric. In the end, we are going to just be watching the data to see

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whether NHS hospitals country people in the time they are meant to and

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look at the structural changes. Only a certain number of places will have

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this 24`hour NHS service. That is what is happening now. This is going

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to be ten, 20 years. Will be talking about the NHS a hell of a lot in the

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run`up to the election. We are going to go on to Page two of the Daily

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Mail. Can a fragile truce prevent Ukraine falling into the abyss? They

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seem to agree on something. John Kerry, the US Secretary of State and

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the Russian Foreign Minister to seemed to have come to a deal that

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has seen compromises on both sides. Vladimir Putin has agreed to try to

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help disband some of the gangs that are roaming around eastern Ukraine

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that are seen as militia, who are stoking up popular discontent. They

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are saying we need to go in there because of the unrest and take

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control of another portion of eastern Ukraine. In terms of what

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John Kerry has had to give, they have had to concede a restructuring

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of Ukraine, giving different local areas different regional control,

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which does allow Putin to say he got something out of this. You have to

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remember that not all of the cards were on the side of John Kerry. You

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look at the tough rhetoric coming out of America about sanctions and

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such, but then again, Europe has not really been anything like as tough.

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What is interesting to me, any sovereign nation that says

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basically, we have the right to protect our language nationals is

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the same as if the French president said we are coming to London because

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the French speakers are not happy. That is what we are not tackling.

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That is the basic premise. That is what Adolf Hitler used before World

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War II about the German`speaking people. We cannot let that kind of

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rationale though past. The UN has already condemned it. It is

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ridiculous. There are schools in predominantly Russian speaking areas

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where you are not allowed to speak the language. Absolutely. It needs

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to be challenged. The basic idea he has been putting forth to the

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popular press is that these people have been asked to come in. These

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are our language speakers and we have the right to protect them. It

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has to be deeper than that. Foreign doctors lack skills for the NHS,

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according to the front of the Daily Telegraph. One wonders why they are

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now doing in the first place? I have foreign doctors around me. I do not

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know what this is about. Someone who has come over from the United

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States. When did this happen? I saw a foreign doctor this morning. I do

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not know what they mean by what skills they lack. They do not have

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the credentials are a British doctor has, how did they get in here? It is

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another anti`NHS story. They say they have a series of tests which

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are not as stringent for foreign doctors as British doctors. If that

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is the case, why are they allowed in? The bottom line is there and not

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enough doctors, particularly in A It is not the case that there is a

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huge extra number of foreign doctors in this country than, say, ten or 15

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years ago, but there is a huge increase in the number of foreign

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doctors stories in the papers. One of the things that is perhaps worth

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thinking about, though, is as you look overseas to bring people do

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Britain, it is getting harder with changes to the visa regime, but you

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get a lot of people training in Britain and going overseas

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themselves. Florida and the United States. Something like half of the

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trainees in Western Australia are British expats. And in America, and

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NHS training in the United States is considered a supreme, and you can

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ask for top dollar. So it is quite... So is it a story to say

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that foreign doctors are allowed in this country, and they don't have

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the skills of British doctors, yet they are legally, officially allowed

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in? Is that a story? Well, it is... It is a story if they mess it up. It

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is a story by university College London. One wonders why they did

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that. They are a hospital and an academic institution, they would

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look at the evidence and come to a judgment about an issue that is

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quite important, because I think it is worth academic examination of

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this. People have an emotional and pragmatic reaction to foreign

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doctors, some worry they are not as good, so it is worth looking at the

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extent to which that is true, and they have found some grounds for

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agreeing with that. Language, of course, is a big issue. It is a

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subject that merits careful and not hysterical looking at. It always

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did, that is my question, why now? All right, OK, the front page of the

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Daily Mirror, baby given meningitis by a cat. This is, you know,

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this... I don't know about these kind of stories. This little child

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on the front cover of this paper, I don't quite understand what that is

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about. Out of the deepest level of it, what is it for? I would not have

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my child pose like this, that is my first point. What are we saying?

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This is what I am trying to understand. This is another story,

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another paper, cats and meningitis, is there something deeper going on?

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Is it's just a scare story? Anyone with a cat should be worried about

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it? I think we have had a couple of cats and baby stories in the last

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month. I think if there was a genuine problem, we would have known

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about it. University college might have done a study about it! The

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reason that you read about them is because there is something quite

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deeply ingrained in our sort of societal psyche about cats, babies,

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and parts they do not sit comfortably together. But actually

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that pretty much is an urban myth. There is some evidence that dogs are

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more dangerous than cats when it comes to babies, the suffocation

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myth is not true. And as both a parent and owner of two cats, they

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are perfectly happy cohabiting, and there is no issue there. This is an

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individually very tragic case, occasionally papers focusing on one

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thing that is shocking, but I would draw any wider conclusions. It makes

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a... A horrible story, terrible story. You guys will be back an

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hour. I suppose, yeah! We have pretty much knocked every headline,

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haven't we? Stay with us on BBC News, because the top of the hour

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will have much more on the talks in Geneva to try to resolve the

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situation in the east of Ukraine. But now it is time for Sportsday.

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Hello and welcome to Sportsday, I'm Katherine Downes. Cardiff City call

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for action against Crystal Palace amid allegations of spying before

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their Premier League match earlier this month, we'll look at the

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investigation facing the Premier

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