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been taking on Manchester City. Tennis and sneak out all coming out

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in 15 minutes. `` snooker. Welcome to our look at what the

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papers will bring us tomorrow. Bonnie Greer and the Deputy

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political editor at the times. A picture of holy week celebrations in

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Spain, dominating the Telegraph front page. Foreign doctors might

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lack the necessary skills to work on the NHS. The Queen with her Easter

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bouquet features on the Daily Express. The Daily Mail reports on

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the cost of a legal battle involving an NHS cardiologist who was sacked

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after whistleblowing. The front page of the mirror is dedicated to a

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story about a baby who was reinfected by meningitis from the

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family cat. `` infected. The skill levels of doctors trained outside

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the EU in the times. The independent front page has a tribute to Gabriel

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Garcia Marquez. He died at aged 87. The Guardian reports on the

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acquisition of the Labour Party over Obama 's adviser, table Arsenal

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roared, for the UK election battle. That's where we start. Miliband

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steps up his right hand man for election. Will Miliband say, yes we

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can? It is a shot in the arm for Ed Miliband. They have been looking for

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good news. Their economic strategy came under pressure. This is as good

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news as you could get. David Axelrod was the campaign face of the Obama

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campaign. He was one of two figureheads who took Obama from the

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kitchen table to the White House. The fact he is joining team Miliband

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is impressive. We have a Chicago streetfighter who will faceoff and

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Australian strategist. It is down and dirty. All three parties have

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foreign election strategists. It is good news. I wonder how many days

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between now and the election, David Axelrod will actually be inside the

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Labour HQ. He is predominantly an America based. What will he do? His

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role in the last Obama campaign was to focus on Obama's opponent and

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ensure people understood how privileged, wealthy and not one of

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us he was as an opponent. You will see a lot of that in the way he

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steers the Labour campaign. Ronnie, you are from southside Chicago and

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you know this guy. Absolutely. What will he bring to the campaign? ``

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Bonnie. Trust me, Axe wouldn't get involved unless he could win this.

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He wouldn't put his name to this if he didn't know. To add to what Sam

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said, what he saw in Obama was what I call, the edge. He saw it. He saw

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a shift in the Democratic party. My generation, the baby boomers, were

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running the party. We assumed it would be Hillary Clinton in the

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bag. What's the deal? Suddenly, this guy from Illinois, with a weird last

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name, who Axe helped to get here from Illinois, said no, there is a

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change. What he focuses on, not only what he did against Mitt Romney is,

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he is a genius at understanding the ethos of the people. He understands

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in the US, for instance, America is about freedom, our quality,

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opportunity, that's it. Every American dream is about it. If you

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don't deliver that, then you are out. What he sees here, my

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perception of Britain, being here so many years, is that the British

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perceive themselves as fair. At the end of the day, most British people

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want fairness. Everyone interprets that how they want, but it is about

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being fair, just fair. I would assume, maybe Axelrod will look at

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that very deeply. He is talking about inequality. He is going to be

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talking about that so that is important. Sam, why does it take a

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bunch of foreigners to tell us how we are supposed to, I don't know,

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react, feel, deal with life at the moment? As with business hiring

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outside consultants, it helps. Before Axelrod's arrival, team

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Miliband have been looking at the way Obama won the second of the two

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residential races. In fact, Obama was behind on economic competence

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and behind on who was trusted to manage growth in relation to

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business. What he was in front on was understanding people 's pain,

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understanding the squeeze, understanding cost of living issues.

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The temp late has been laid on top of the Labour campaign. `` temp

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late. We have Axelrod like we are just adding to the man now. The

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Tories picked up Jim Messina who also worked for President Obama.

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There is no doubt that Axelrod is the senior. That moustache is known

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in America. And he has the thing I want `` and he has got it back,

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because he took it off. He will shake this campaign. He knows

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something has shifted. That is what he discovered in Obama. That is what

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will happen here. Very interesting. Bonnie, the Times, Geneva deal pulls

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Ukraine back from the brink. Is it all over now? It depends on how far

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Putin wants to go, what he wants to accomplish. What he says he wants to

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do, what he wants to do, are of course two different things. He has

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had to put himself on the frontline of politics. He has gone on record,

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ago, saying the collapse of the Soviet Union was the worst thing

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that ever happened. V Putin owes a of politics in Europe and in

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relation to the U S is how this man is making his mark `` the

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Putinisation. It is appalling that we don't have a dialogue about his

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central premise, which is that he has the right to invade a sovereign

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country to aid its language speakers. This, frankly, was one of

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Hitler's arguments. It's much more complicated than that. That is one

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of Hitler's statements, that German speakers in that part of Poland...

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(CROSSTALK) he said today it was his right to go in there if Russian

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speakers are being threatened. The important thing about the deal today

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is to look at what sides have got out of it. It has a below the

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surface mini break up of national structure of Ukraine, whereas, so

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the west's negotiating card in all of this is relatively weak `` West.

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We have seen businesses in Europe, like BP, lobbying to ensure that

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sanctions against Russia weren't dramatic. If you impose all our

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sanctions you won't have anyone writing cheques from Moscow to

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London. They would. We aren't in a position of desperate strength. You

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talk about Hitler, you talk about interrogating Putin's main aim, I

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don't think that is realistic at that point when we have little cards

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on our favour. Obama said that military options were off the table.

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He has to say that. Europe is an plain`ball. We saw today that there

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aren't many cards in our favour `` playing ball. You need an

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unattractive deescalation. You are saying that the West, need to back

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down? And saying the West didn't get a lot out of today and Putin can be

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satisfied there is no attempt to take any of this back. Nothing has

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put him back in his box and he has stored sanctions and seen a little

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bit more of a breakup of Ukraine. There are issues on the table. We

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can talk about the real politic. You are talking about that. It is

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rational. There is something deeper that we are not discussing. That

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is, the idea of the West. What does it do? If the EU cannot in spite of

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the fact that Gazprom pumps the gas into Europe, if the EU cannot stay

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with the principles of Europe, if the UN cannot do that, if the US

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cannot do that, that is the problem. We know the money that is beneath

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this. Someone needs to talk about this issue of sovereign nations

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being invaded by another nation. You mention the word is realpolitik and

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the matter is, if the Germans are getting their gas from Russia, what

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will you do? My point is, let's talk about it. Not as though there is

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anything else to talk about. I thought they were talking about it.

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I thought they would be a move because of the fracking revolution

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in America to ship more of that stuff, their gas, over two, and try

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and change the geopolitical situation. Try to shift the

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dynamic. A third can be moved by 2020. It's not overnight. That's

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part of the discussion I'm saying it's not the only question. We are

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acting as though it is. There is an idea of the West. There is an idea

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about the US. What the President should be doing, which he is in an

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ish way, is to state the idea. You know what the response to that is?

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Libya, Syria, Iraq. You guys do it, we will do it. We need to talk about

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it. You are absolutely right. A discussion for both sides,

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potentially. Interesting story. Your paper, the Times, has done it,

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safety fears over doctors who trained outside the EU, you have on

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the front page. Whereas, the Telegraph says foreign doctors, just

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generally, foreign doctors lack skills for the NHS. The suggestion

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is that following a study from University College London that

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foreign doctors are allowed to work in the NHS here aren't given the

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same stringent testing that British doctors need to reach before

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practising. It's an academic study published in the British medical

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Journal, one of the most well`regarded medical journals.

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There is huge political pressure to ensure there are no gaps in the NHS

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`` British Medical Journal. What do we do? We go outside. People have

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tactical and emotional responses to that. It makes some uncomfortable

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and some nervous. Others treat it in a perfectly grown`up manner. Here,

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we seem to have a study which suggests that there are issues

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around the number of doctors that go to disciplinary hearings from

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overseas. It basically says foreign doctors wouldn't pass the English

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exam, which I think would concern a lot of people. Is that it, language?

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The richest test? Lee the English exam. From the extracts, I'm not

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clear what they would be. Is this according to the Times? If you are a

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foreign doctor, a French or Spanish or German doctor, it's all OK? The

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Times is right and the Telegraph is wrong, obviously. In the Times, and

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the Times says? I'm trying to get the motivation of the story. We have

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to duty newspapers suggesting two very different things. That is my

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point. The Telegraph is just foreign doctors, anyone perhaps whose

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English `` who is not English. Once you say outside the EU, you think

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about African doctors and so on, and race starts coming in. The point is,

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the point we make clear in our story, the study is about the exam

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sat by doctors who come from outside the EU, and they are comparing that

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exam for people coming from outside the EU with the domestic exam. The

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Times is accurate in this. So the test for a French doctor is the same

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for it is in the UK. I'm not sure. for it is in the UK. I'm not sure.

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That is crucial. That is important. The doctor who got into trouble a

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few years ago was a German speaker. The question is, what are they

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talking about? Is it language? Why are you so special? What happens in

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the EU which is huge and French doctors are not trained to the same

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as reduced doctors. No foreign doctor would be. What are they

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talking about? Also, if it is clear, from greater appearances

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before the General medical Council because problems foreign doctors

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have issues, why is this study coming out now? That was my other

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question. We have discussed this lot. It has all gone over my head

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completely story. I think it is time to talk about things about which we

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know, not nothing. Onto the Independent and Bonnie, Gabriel

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Garcia Marquez, a literary giant, dies at 87, after being sick for a

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long time. Nobel laureate. People compare him to 70s. `` Cervantes. He

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invented magic realism, which has been bastardised. Can I say that?

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You can say what you like. Tony will be all right about that. When magic

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realism, which he brought into the world, it was about subtlety and

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leaving things out. This man to the Spanish`language is the same thing

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that Shakespeare is to ours, he invented Spanish again. He was our

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mighty intellect. He is what the French call, on the left. He is

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against US foreign policy. He wasn't afraid to say you can be an artist

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and you can be engaged. He was a genius and he won the Nobel Prize

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for literature, our IP. We ended there. Thank you. `` RIP. Stay with

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us on BBC News. At the top of the Allah, we have more of the talks in

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Geneva aimed at reducing the crisis in eastern Ukraine. `` hour. Now, it

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