13/05/2014 The Papers


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possible return to cricket for Freddie Flintoff as well.


Welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us


tomorrow. With me are Liam Halligan, the economics commentator for the


Telegraph, and Hugo Rifkind, columnist for The Times. We are


going to start with the Guardian. International court examines UK war


crimes. If you go to the ICC website, there are ten countries


where preliminary investigations are taking place, including the Central


African Republic, Afghanistan and Honduras, and we have been added to


the list. As a spin doctor would say, the optics on this are not very


good. This is the announcement that a specialist tribunal in The Hague


will investigate alleged misdemeanours by UK military


personnel relating to 60 allegedly unlawful killings and 170 apparent


mistreatments of Iraqis. This story will go on for many, many years.


Even preliminary investigations into this will take several years, we


understand. The UK is the only western country who will be subject


to this investigation. The Government has come back, the


Attorney`General saying, well, what can he say? He says, of course we


support the process of the International Criminal Court, but


these allegations are already being comprehensively investigated, in his


words, why the UK Government. But Hugo, Dominic grieve says, it is not


systematic, what happened, it may be, although I am putting these


words into his mouth, the odd guy here or there, if any mistreatment


happened at all. But what the lawyers putting forward this case


are saying is that this goes right to the very top, Army chiefs and


defence ministers, potentially? With an allocation of 60 cases of


unlawful killing, that is not good. Unlawful killing, that would


suggest, if true, that there were things going on in a fairly routine


fashion which should not have been in the field of conflict. However, I


think it is important not to get this story backwards, which is easy


to do. Yes, the UK is the only western states to have faced a


preliminary investigation like this one, but what that means, if you


think about it, it means Abu Graber did not go to the ICC, that means


Fallujah did not go to the ICC. Britain is committed to


international justice, Britain has cooperated with this court. Most


likely, after a preliminary investigation, whatever happens,


even if there was found to be substance in the allegations, the


ICC would probably understand that written is capable of investigating


these things themselves. `` Britain. Written is I think doing the right


thing in cooperating. It would be relatively uneasy to say, this is


rubbish. Liam, that is right, isn't it? Dominic Grieve came out today


and said what he had to say, but he also said, we are open to anyone


coming here and investigating this? It was a very measured statement. I


am sure there were some cross`party talks in formally before the


statement took place, because this could go on for a very long time, as


I say. I think Hugo is right, it does show that we are open to


investigation from outside forces, and some other western countries are


not. But it does not look good, given the other countries which are


being bracketed with the UK in the aftermath of Iraq. Staying with the


garden, US takeover could cost lives. I don't think I have ever


heard an excuse to prevent a takeover, the suggestion that it


could actually kill people? This takeover battle is getting pretty


bitter. I am not saying the man is wrong, he knows what he is talking


about, however, it is not in the interests of any drug company to


delay cancer drugs. Cancer drugs are held drug companies make their


money. Any drug company that can bring a new cancer drug to market


will do so as quickly as possible. The development costs are such that


they will not risk a delay. So I would take that with a pinch of


salt. But it shows how nasty this is getting. All manner of politics and


protectionism and thinly veiled xenophobia is coming into this one.


I think this will run and run and there will be a lot of fallout


afterwards. The shareholders, one assumes, are watching all of this,


and ultimately, one would assume that they are going to make the


final decision, it is not going to be Vince Cable. Yes, what would


usually be seen as a dry business story has become a soap opera. It is


now being talked about in the pubs and clubs and taxis up and down the


land. Not only because it is a ?60 billion bid, not only because


pharmaceuticals is our second biggest sector in this country after


financial services, or that it would be the biggest takeover of a British


company by a foreign company in our history, it is also because the


Government is considering intervening. That is the reality.


Simon Walker from the Institute of Directors, speaking to you earlier,


having already spoken once to the press, again this evening he


reiterated his view, that it is up to the shareholders, who own the


company. I do not think it is clear that in the run`up to an election,


we will not get intervention here. Of course, the Treasury does not


want it, it is trying to say that Britain is open for business. Even


in the States, the citadel of so`called free market capitalism,


you have had foreign deals blocked when they have looked politically


too sensitive. I think we could yet see some kind of intervention,


although I personally hope that we don't. There is a difference between


foreign direct investment and selling off your own industries.


There comes a point where we need to ask ourselves whether we want to be


somewhere. Mike with the car industry, somewhere where with we


can produce cars for companies owned in other countries, whether we want


to be that sort of nation. Pharmaceuticals is one that we have


always been very good at. I am being told that apparently we are making


more cars than we ever did. That is true, but we do not have a volume


car`maker in this country it is Nissan, it is Tatar, of course. Yes,


we are making more cars, giving people gain full employment, with


semiskilled and skilled jobs, not least in the north`east of


England... But they are not British cars! . The companies are often


domiciled elsewhere, sometimes the tax goes elsewhere. All of this


stuff about life sciences, research and development ` if Pfizer said


?100 billion, then all of that goes out of the window, the shareholders


will say, come on in, weren't they? The Government needs to decide


whether they will put limitations on any possible deal or not. It is


interesting, Pascal Soriot, the CEO of AstraZeneca said almost nothing


in front of the Commons committee today, but he did launch this


extremely emotive headline, maybe this could kill people. He said


almost nothing else that was worthy of reporting! But he was determined


to get this in the papers, and he did! Moving on to the Metro, this is


really interesting ` Google told to wipe your past off the internet?


This was a judgement by the European court today. There is no possible


appeal. On the one hand, Google and people interested in freedom of


speech will say that the ability to remove things from the internet


events honest reporting and disclosure of information in the


public interest. On the other hand, others will say that if the


intermediary of the information, the search engine, has to become


responsible for the veracity or otherwise of the content, that has


big implications for internet publishing not just for search


engines, but all media organisations. It is a very


important story. Hugo, in this particular case it was a Spanish guy


who had had financial problems in the past, and that affected his


credit history. And he is fine now financially. So he wanted that stuff


wiped. That seems fair enough. Yes, in his case, fair enough. But it


ends when else this would happen. Anyone who has ever wanted anything


removed from the internet on if they believe they have a decent case to


do it, sometimes they do have a decent case to strike the record.


The question is, who owns the record? Even if his credit history


is flawless these days, should it not be in the public domain that it


once was not? Your credit history cannot be flawless. Your history is


your history. That is why it is your history. There is something to be


said that your history should not be evaporated. How many people were


googling him anyway? I never have. I am sure you would like to wipe the


old photographs of you that are still being used to this day. That


was his rebate phase. And he used to have dreadlocks. Few photographs


remain. Nothing wrong with that. Right, we go to the Daily Telegraph.


Hugo, it is official. We are not going to win the World Cup. The


government is saying this now. Less of the week, please. Ouch! Speaking


as a Scot, we got used to not winning the World Cup long ago.


Controversial. I doubt I will get away with this, but it has always


puzzled me, watching the England football team, because the England


football team goes to the World Cup and there is always a sense of


surprise that they don't win. As if it is not possible. It is not


possible to do unusually badly every time . It is like when you call a


call centre and they say, we are unusually busy. It happens every


time. The government has said a report by the Home Office has used


bookmakers' odds when considering the benefits of keeping the pubs


open. There is a 54% chance of us going beyond the group stage. We are


in group D with Italy, Costa Rica and Uruguay. The top two go through,


so we should get through that. But then we only have an 11% chance of


going beyond the quarterfinals. I once asked the former Governor of


the Bank of England, Mervyn King, how good he thought various players


were, particularly when Theo Walcott was going to the World Cup. If we


have a cup run, everybody buys barbecues and summer clothes and


consumer spending goes mad, which has a big indication for the


economy. You are onto a hiding to nothing asking Mervyn King that, he


is an Aston Villa fan. What does he know about football? I will get a


lot of abuse for that on Twitter now! You will both be back later. At


the top of the hour, we will have the latest on today's developments


in the enquiry into the disappearance of Claudia Lawrence.


Now, it is time for Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm


Olly Foster. Here's what's coming up tonight. Vacancy at the Lane ` Tim


Sherwood has been sacked at Spurs. The stampede for Wembley ` Leyton


Orient are through to the League One play`off final.


And a second chance for Michael Carberry, as he gets an England


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