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possible return to cricket for Freddie Flintoff as well.

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Welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us

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tomorrow. With me are Liam Halligan, the economics commentator for the

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Telegraph, and Hugo Rifkind, columnist for The Times. We are

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going to start with the Guardian. International court examines UK war

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crimes. If you go to the ICC website, there are ten countries

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where preliminary investigations are taking place, including the Central

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African Republic, Afghanistan and Honduras, and we have been added to

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the list. As a spin doctor would say, the optics on this are not very

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good. This is the announcement that a specialist tribunal in The Hague

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will investigate alleged misdemeanours by UK military

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personnel relating to 60 allegedly unlawful killings and 170 apparent

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mistreatments of Iraqis. This story will go on for many, many years.

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Even preliminary investigations into this will take several years, we

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understand. The UK is the only western country who will be subject

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to this investigation. The Government has come back, the

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Attorney`General saying, well, what can he say? He says, of course we

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support the process of the International Criminal Court, but

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these allegations are already being comprehensively investigated, in his

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words, why the UK Government. But Hugo, Dominic grieve says, it is not

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systematic, what happened, it may be, although I am putting these

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words into his mouth, the odd guy here or there, if any mistreatment

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happened at all. But what the lawyers putting forward this case

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are saying is that this goes right to the very top, Army chiefs and

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defence ministers, potentially? With an allocation of 60 cases of

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unlawful killing, that is not good. Unlawful killing, that would

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suggest, if true, that there were things going on in a fairly routine

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fashion which should not have been in the field of conflict. However, I

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think it is important not to get this story backwards, which is easy

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to do. Yes, the UK is the only western states to have faced a

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preliminary investigation like this one, but what that means, if you

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think about it, it means Abu Graber did not go to the ICC, that means

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Fallujah did not go to the ICC. Britain is committed to

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international justice, Britain has cooperated with this court. Most

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likely, after a preliminary investigation, whatever happens,

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even if there was found to be substance in the allegations, the

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ICC would probably understand that written is capable of investigating

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these things themselves. `` Britain. Written is I think doing the right

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thing in cooperating. It would be relatively uneasy to say, this is

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rubbish. Liam, that is right, isn't it? Dominic Grieve came out today

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and said what he had to say, but he also said, we are open to anyone

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coming here and investigating this? It was a very measured statement. I

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am sure there were some cross`party talks in formally before the

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statement took place, because this could go on for a very long time, as

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I say. I think Hugo is right, it does show that we are open to

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investigation from outside forces, and some other western countries are

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not. But it does not look good, given the other countries which are

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being bracketed with the UK in the aftermath of Iraq. Staying with the

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garden, US takeover could cost lives. I don't think I have ever

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heard an excuse to prevent a takeover, the suggestion that it

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could actually kill people? This takeover battle is getting pretty

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bitter. I am not saying the man is wrong, he knows what he is talking

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about, however, it is not in the interests of any drug company to

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delay cancer drugs. Cancer drugs are held drug companies make their

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money. Any drug company that can bring a new cancer drug to market

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will do so as quickly as possible. The development costs are such that

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they will not risk a delay. So I would take that with a pinch of

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salt. But it shows how nasty this is getting. All manner of politics and

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protectionism and thinly veiled xenophobia is coming into this one.

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I think this will run and run and there will be a lot of fallout

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afterwards. The shareholders, one assumes, are watching all of this,

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and ultimately, one would assume that they are going to make the

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final decision, it is not going to be Vince Cable. Yes, what would

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usually be seen as a dry business story has become a soap opera. It is

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now being talked about in the pubs and clubs and taxis up and down the

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land. Not only because it is a ?60 billion bid, not only because

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pharmaceuticals is our second biggest sector in this country after

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financial services, or that it would be the biggest takeover of a British

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company by a foreign company in our history, it is also because the

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Government is considering intervening. That is the reality.

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Simon Walker from the Institute of Directors, speaking to you earlier,

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having already spoken once to the press, again this evening he

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reiterated his view, that it is up to the shareholders, who own the

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company. I do not think it is clear that in the run`up to an election,

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we will not get intervention here. Of course, the Treasury does not

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want it, it is trying to say that Britain is open for business. Even

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in the States, the citadel of so`called free market capitalism,

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you have had foreign deals blocked when they have looked politically

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too sensitive. I think we could yet see some kind of intervention,

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although I personally hope that we don't. There is a difference between

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foreign direct investment and selling off your own industries.

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There comes a point where we need to ask ourselves whether we want to be

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somewhere. Mike with the car industry, somewhere where with we

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can produce cars for companies owned in other countries, whether we want

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to be that sort of nation. Pharmaceuticals is one that we have

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always been very good at. I am being told that apparently we are making

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more cars than we ever did. That is true, but we do not have a volume

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car`maker in this country it is Nissan, it is Tatar, of course. Yes,

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we are making more cars, giving people gain full employment, with

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semiskilled and skilled jobs, not least in the north`east of

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England... But they are not British cars! . The companies are often

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domiciled elsewhere, sometimes the tax goes elsewhere. All of this

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stuff about life sciences, research and development ` if Pfizer said

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?100 billion, then all of that goes out of the window, the shareholders

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will say, come on in, weren't they? The Government needs to decide

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whether they will put limitations on any possible deal or not. It is

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interesting, Pascal Soriot, the CEO of AstraZeneca said almost nothing

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in front of the Commons committee today, but he did launch this

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extremely emotive headline, maybe this could kill people. He said

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almost nothing else that was worthy of reporting! But he was determined

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to get this in the papers, and he did! Moving on to the Metro, this is

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really interesting ` Google told to wipe your past off the internet?

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This was a judgement by the European court today. There is no possible

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appeal. On the one hand, Google and people interested in freedom of

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speech will say that the ability to remove things from the internet

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events honest reporting and disclosure of information in the

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public interest. On the other hand, others will say that if the

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intermediary of the information, the search engine, has to become

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responsible for the veracity or otherwise of the content, that has

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big implications for internet publishing not just for search

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engines, but all media organisations. It is a very

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important story. Hugo, in this particular case it was a Spanish guy

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who had had financial problems in the past, and that affected his

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credit history. And he is fine now financially. So he wanted that stuff

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wiped. That seems fair enough. Yes, in his case, fair enough. But it

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ends when else this would happen. Anyone who has ever wanted anything

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removed from the internet on if they believe they have a decent case to

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do it, sometimes they do have a decent case to strike the record.

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The question is, who owns the record? Even if his credit history

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is flawless these days, should it not be in the public domain that it

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once was not? Your credit history cannot be flawless. Your history is

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your history. That is why it is your history. There is something to be

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said that your history should not be evaporated. How many people were

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googling him anyway? I never have. I am sure you would like to wipe the

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old photographs of you that are still being used to this day. That

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was his rebate phase. And he used to have dreadlocks. Few photographs

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remain. Nothing wrong with that. Right, we go to the Daily Telegraph.

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Hugo, it is official. We are not going to win the World Cup. The

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government is saying this now. Less of the week, please. Ouch! Speaking

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as a Scot, we got used to not winning the World Cup long ago.

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Controversial. I doubt I will get away with this, but it has always

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puzzled me, watching the England football team, because the England

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football team goes to the World Cup and there is always a sense of

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surprise that they don't win. As if it is not possible. It is not

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possible to do unusually badly every time . It is like when you call a

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call centre and they say, we are unusually busy. It happens every

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time. The government has said a report by the Home Office has used

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bookmakers' odds when considering the benefits of keeping the pubs

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open. There is a 54% chance of us going beyond the group stage. We are

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in group D with Italy, Costa Rica and Uruguay. The top two go through,

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so we should get through that. But then we only have an 11% chance of

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going beyond the quarterfinals. I once asked the former Governor of

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the Bank of England, Mervyn King, how good he thought various players

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were, particularly when Theo Walcott was going to the World Cup. If we

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have a cup run, everybody buys barbecues and summer clothes and

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consumer spending goes mad, which has a big indication for the

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economy. You are onto a hiding to nothing asking Mervyn King that, he

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is an Aston Villa fan. What does he know about football? I will get a

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lot of abuse for that on Twitter now! You will both be back later. At

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the top of the hour, we will have the latest on today's developments

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in the enquiry into the disappearance of Claudia Lawrence.

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Now, it is time for Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm

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Olly Foster. Here's what's coming up tonight. Vacancy at the Lane ` Tim

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Sherwood has been sacked at Spurs. The stampede for Wembley ` Leyton

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Orient are through to the League One play`off final.

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And a second chance for Michael Carberry, as he gets an England

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