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Young people who refuse training could lose benefits under

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Leader Ed Miliband says they would only be eligible for

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Jobseeker's Allowance if they have the right skills to get a job.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

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With me are pensions analyst Ros Altmann and Clive Petty, assistant

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Wearing the metaphorical black armband, sorry it have to be

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tonight. The crisis in Iraq is the main story in the Telegraph, which

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has an interview with General Petraeus, the former head of the

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CIA. The Guardian says new rules brought in after the Trojan horse

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controversy says that it could prevent conservative Muslims running

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schools. General Petraeus is warning of a terrorist army he believes is a

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threat to the West, as President Obama says it is going to send in

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300 special forces advisers. This will be music to the ears of the

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Republicans, but not the Democrats? That's right. A lot of people are

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concerned about what is happening. How do we know who are the good guys

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and the bad guys? Do we want to get involved? What The Telegraph is

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saying is that many of the major Arab countries all around are saying

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to America, please don't get involved. The Saudi ambassador to

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the UK has apparently written in the Telegraph, warning against direct

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involvement, warning against air strikes and America really's or

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America and the UK, actually sending troops in, or being involved

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militarily. They fear it will inflame the situation. After the

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experiences we have had in the last few years, it's very difficult to

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know what we can actually do, militarily. That was President Obama

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was saying, in a country written by sectarianism, the last thing he

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wants to do is to target one particular group, Sunni Shia. At the

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moment, they don't have the intelligence to know who they would

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be aiming at? I'm always wary when Western governments take sides in

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these sort of things, and then try to impose, once they have gone in in

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the name of democracy, tell the people in that country who should be

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in charge. They are talking about military attacks as a last resort.

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But they are already using words like targeted, precise, they have

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given this thought already. They say they are military advisers. Does

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that mean they are troops? In The Guardian they call them troops.

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Getting them inside the country under a different label? We really

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don't know. They are talking about not having ground troops. You know,

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they may not be talking about an invasion again, but these are air

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strikes. It is an attack, by any other name, and they have to be

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careful. They will alienate Saudi Arabia and neighbouring countries.

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General Petraeus makes this point, having said the US must strike

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particular Iraqis, he is saying, I suspect most Iraqis, despite the

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desperate situation, would not welcome outside assistance,

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suggesting they would not be happy to see a return of American combat

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forces in the country? That is what we have learned over the last few

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years. Even if we try to help one side or the other, it is inevitable

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that, in any situation, going in with air strikes, you will be

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telling some people, inadvertently, who you didn't want to target at

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all. That leaves the West in a very difficult situation. People,

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understandably, will see the West as aggressors in some way. They will be

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trying to defend people. Repeated criticism of Nouri al`Maliki for

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residing over what many people regard as a very corrupt government.

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There has not been and inclusive government, they are saying he needs

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to sort this out for himself, and that does not include foreign

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intervention? That is right. There is an example that this should be

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kept as an internal conflict, if you like. That is what you would hope.

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Let's move on. Staying with the Telegraph, another story on the

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front page, passport solution, stay here! There is a crisis in the

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passport office and a backlog of tens of thousands of people waiting

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to have their passport applications processed. Here, but there minister,

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Helen Grant, suggesting people should take their summer holiday in

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Britain. `` tourism Minister. Tell us, who is Helen Grant? Well, it was

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delivered while she is at the World Cup, in Brazil. So, she has her

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passport! You can't go abroad, stay at home. We do hear these things

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quite often, they seem to have that foot in mouth syndrome. If you have

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booked a holiday, you don't have the option to stay here, you need your

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passport to go on holiday. It's the summer, didn't anybody see this

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coming? People might want to go abroad. Surely, there is an upsurge

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in passport applications? It seems fairly obvious to me. She is risking

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the Rath of people caught up in the fiasco. ``

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I would say, what planet are you on? She came in for criticism recently

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for saying that British girls might want to take up a feminine

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activities like cheerleading and ballet. I feel sorry for her, they

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didn't intend for there to be this backlog. They've got to introduce

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emergency measures. But I don't know, you have to be careful. It's a

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misunderstanding of the situation and of ordinary people that need a

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passport. Let's move on to the Daily Mail. England against Uruguay. We

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had to come to it in the end. It was looking quite positive in the 75th

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minute, when Wayne Rooney scored the equaliser. Luis Suarez came back

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minute, when Wayne Rooney scored the equaliser. Luis Suarez came with a

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second goal. We will probably get in`depth analysis from Clive. It

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seems too good to be true, and it was? I was so excited when we got

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that equaliser. I thought, yes, we can do it. Technically, I think

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there is a chance that we may still survive, but what the Daily Mail is

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pointing out, worryingly, is that England fans have been attacked

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ahead of the game. They were worried about them being attacked after the

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game. Apparently there were some problems even before the game. Fans

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hospitalised? There have been some arrests, but we don't think any

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England fans have been arrested? I'm not sure if this was confirmed, but

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it's quite bizarre, really, the timing of it. Only in our paper, The

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Times, our correspondent had written a fantastic piece about how great

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the atmosphere was between fans. The cocoa cabana Beach was standing out

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as the home of football. Then out of the blue we see that they were

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attacked by thugs, and England fans have needed treatment after

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fireworks and Molotov cocktails were thrown into this bar. How might it

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not be too late? It sounds odd to hope that a team can qualify with

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just three points, but they will have to to beat Costa Rica. We are

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going to have to be Italy fans, they can beat them and Uruguay. Anything

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of that has to happen? A flash of lightning? There is a big statue

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that looks down over the beach. The reaction on social media was elation

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to depression, the plane coming back to bring the England team home? For

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a while, when Wayne Rooney rise to, it looked like only one team was

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going to win the game. Luis Suarez showed why he is one of the worlds

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best strikers. And he was injured? He wasn't sure to start. He had

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surgery just days before start of the tournament. He was a doubt to

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start. Certainly wasn't expected to last the entire match. It would have

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been handy if he went off before that. I'm going to get shot down.

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You can't help thinking that if it was like the Olympics, we had Team

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GB, rather than England, would we have... Would we be celebrating? I

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am going to get shot down. I can only think of one other player that

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might have got into Team GB, that wasn't English, and that is Gareth

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Bale. Well, he's my hero. Well, I'm a Tottenham supporter, so I still

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have good memories. One final thing, we will move on, how many more

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world`class players have the Uruguay team got? If you take Luis Suarez

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out? Well, you just have to go back to the first game, when he didn't

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play. The big upset was the 3`1 defeat by Costa Rica, who were meant

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to be the whipping boys of the group. We kind of hope they reverted

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to type on Friday and hope that Italy breeze through their remaining

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games. Let's go back to the Telegraph and have a look at the

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cartoon. I have to confess, I'm so ashamed of this, I had to have this

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explained to me. I thought it was something to do... There is a

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fridge, I thought it was something to do with NPower and electricity

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bills. Clive was on hand to explain. A man holding his beer mug? I assume

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he has been watching the football, he might be going to drown his

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sorrows. His very canny wife has used a spray can to get an exclusion

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zone around the fridge and him. This is a reference to referees in

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Brazil, armed with spray cans to mark out and make sure the defensive

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walls are ten yards away from the ball. I think he has used the beer

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can? I am kind of hoping so, the spray in Brazil disappears after a

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few minutes, I hope she hasn't ruined her floor. Miliband shrugs

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off criticism. Ed Miliband insists she can defy the odds and win next

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make's general election. Unemployed people would not be in receipt of

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certain benefits unless they have training, that could almost have

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come from the coalition? That's right. In the other papers, a view

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of the Labour bigwigs are saying, we cannot expect to win an election if

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we are just trying to bash the poor. If we are trying to be tough

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on welfare than anybody else, they are not sure it is the right

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approach. What Mr Miliband was saying was, rather than giving

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people unemployment benefits, let's give them training. Actually, I

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think that makes sense. If you are just getting money and you haven't

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got any skills, that is not going to get you a future. But if you are put

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into some kind of training programme, and you are helped to go

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back into the labour market, that is fine. One of the worries is that he

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was talking about means testing. If your parents are well off, you will

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not get help. If your parents aren't, you will. That creates

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family tension. Some parents, if the kids are rebelling, they may not

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want to support them. Is that the answer? If your kids are at home,

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let your parents make you get a job. They are obviously not leaving the

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house. They've got no skills, what are they going to do? Let's move on

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to the business pages of the Telegraph. The story has been in

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bulletins were very much. Ofgem gets tough on NPower over Alinghi errors.

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They have been told they have to stop touting for new customers until

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they sort these problems out. Apparently, one in every four NPower

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customers are complaining. Bank accounts are being debited with

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direct debits that other wrong amount. Why don't they leave? It's

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easy to move? My experience of NPower, it isn't. I used to be one

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of their customers, and I did what you suggested, it takes ages before

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you actually start getting connected to another supplier. If you have

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been wrongly billed, you want the money back? I changed again, not too

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long ago, before Christmas. I have only just received, and this is not

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with NPower, I have only just received my first bill. It is not

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just them, it seems to be the big six. They are saying that customers

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trying to phone them up are being kept on hold for over an hour, who

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has time for that? The These watchdogs get a lot of criticism.

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They are toothless and have no say. Does this sound quite promising to

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you that Ofgem have grasped the nettle? You hope so. You hope they

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might be an element of things are so bad even the regulators sit up and

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takes notice. It is essential that customers know the regulators are

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going to help sort out things like this. You cannot have big companies

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debiting huge amounts from your account and not servicing you, not

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answering the Fife`I have therefore we have time for this error. Fife ``

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stay with us. Coming up next, it is time for, I believe, Sportsday from

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Brazil. Hello and welcome to Sportsday.

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Wayne Rooney gets his first England World

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