19/06/2014 The Papers


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Welcome to look ahead at what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow.


Welcome to my guests. Tomorrow's front pages. Starting with the


Telegraph. The crisis in Iraq is the main story. It has an interview with


the former head of the CIA. The government claims new rules


introduced could prevent conservative Muslims from being


trustees of schools. The Financial Times says new IT


systems have brought some departments in Whitehall to a


virtual standstill. Faces painted with the expressions


of the English bands on the front of the Times. Glum, after their key


World Cup game loss. Luis Suarez console in his good


friend, the England captain Steven Gerard, by ruffling his hair.


The Mail reports on a sharp rise in the cancers caused by lifestyle


choices like smoking and sunbaking. The Express offers some hope in the


fight against cancer and says vegetables like carrots could be the


key. The Times first and its coverage of


the Iraq story. Just checking that I am on the same page as everybody


else. Of course we have been hearing from President Obama today, talking


about what kind of commitment the Americans can make Iraq, given this


march by the Sunni insurgents, ISIS. Special forces head for Baghdad as


US targets military action. That suggests it's a little more imminent


and the president said. He said, should the time the right? Now he is


talking in terms such as targeting and precise military action. While


at the same time insisting that ground action is completely out of


the question. It still smacks of the West going on and intervening and


possibly causing more friction. Difficult when Iraq asks you for


airstrikes, isn't it? It is but then the Iraqi government itself is going


to ask for any help it can, when it is facing some kind of civil


uprising. Problem is that we don't really know what the implications


are if we do go in, because we have had such bad experiences in the


past. America we built and trained the Iraqi army. `` rebuilt. It


disbanded the whole thing and started training them in 2003. In


2011 the US pulled out. Now we are seeing the whole situation falling


apart. And they don't quite know how to handle it. I think the idea is


they are sending in military advisers, which seems... 300 of


them. A little bit like some ground force, to assess what targets to


strike, if they are going to strike. But many Arab countries are calling


for them not to get involved militarily. The military leaders in


America feel they are in the dark about this and they don't know who


they will be striking. It's not as if the ISIS fighters where uniform.


Exactly and that's half the problem, determining who the bad guys are in


this situation. Also, in aggravating the situation with neighbouring


countries, because, as you say, Saudi Arabia has already warned


against any intervention from the West. They are worried it will


inflame the situation even more. It is one of these awful situations.


Your natural instinct is to say, you want to help, you want to stop this.


But maybe the main aim is to at least stop the advance of ISIS. At


the moment they are just cutting a swathe through lots of areas, which


is very scary. Very different pressures on Barack Obama from the


Democrats and Republicans and also little appetite from other


countries. After the promise of no more ground action, they really


don't want to see them go any further. But it is difficult, as you


say. The problem with that is with airstrikes there's the problem with


the S `` with innocent victims. Michael Gove's rules could prevent


conservative Muslim being trustees of schools. Community leaders are


warning that some Watson's would effectively be part of becoming


trustees or governors. Is that what they want to see, really? This is in


the light of the Trojan horse controversy as it is being called,


with quite conservative Muslim is having an impact in the way schools


are run in Birmingham. I must admit that I don't know if I'm missing


something here, but what he seems to be saying is that we want to make


sure that people who are governors of schools do are by high what he


calls fundamental British values. I think the word fundamental is


perhaps a bit unfortunate. At the actual issues that he talks about,


respect for democracy, the law, equality, tolerance of other faith,


mutual respect, community service, you would have thought that surely


governors of schools should have those very values. And if somebody


doesn't have those values, should we be concerned about the education


provided in that school? I'm not sure that they are fundamentally


reddish as opposed to fundamentally values of anywhere. It is difficult


to know what the problem is. Maybe they are worried that people will


interpret these in ways that might be prejudiced against certain


groups. I would have thought that if people can't sign up to these basic


values. bar to Muslims becoming governors.


They want a diverse range of people from all faiths to serve in


governing bodies. It is right that we prevent unsuitable people from


becoming governors. We believe any behaviour which undermined


democracy, the rule of law, respect and tolerance is incompatible with


being a governor in a state funded school in England. As you say, that


seems fairly self explanatory. I would have thought that most Muslims


would sign up for that. Leeds if you were setting those values, what sort


of people are setting those values? But you can't argue with those, can


you? Leeds as you say, that seems fairly straightforward `` as you


say, that seems fairly straightforward. What is different?


A senior member of the Muslim Council of Britain says that as a


matter of principle to have so much power in this that in one hand is


wrong. To have so much power in any area is dangerous. He suggests there


needs to be a balance, a governing body in every school. But OFSTED


have to go and check whether this is happening. And where would they not


be a consensus? I'm not sure. Maybe we are missing something. May it


continues on page two? Moving on to the Telegraph. Ministers' passport


solution. Families should think about taking their summer holidays


in Britain in the wake of crises at the passport office. This is the


suggestion from the tourism Minister Helen Grant who was speaking while


in Brazil. Lucky her. And she is planning a holiday in Spain. So she


has no issues with her passport. This really gets people's backed up.


It really does. The tourism minister saying why don't you stay at home?


That is not the point. The point is that if you have walked a holiday,


you can't go. If you haven't booked a holiday abroad, you probably won't


be worried. `` booked a holiday. So people have already decided they


want to travel, and they can't. That is the problem. It is a classic


mouth before rain, note thought there at all `` mouth before brain.


It is true that you can have great holidays in Britain, but if you need


a passport... You have already bought the holiday and you want to


go. And disability benefits. This is not the support allowance we have


been talking about all day, this is a different one. This is the


personal independence payment which is paid to people with disabilities


to help them live independently. And replaces the previous allowance,


which was the Disability Living Allowance. Apparently it is taking


months for people to have a decision made on their claim. It is causing


huge amounts of distress in the process. The Independent revealed


that some claimants have been forced to turn to food banks, apply for


loans, or rely on charity to survive. Which on top of everything,


you actually have to put up with in that position, it is an


incredible... Another example of a very hardhearted attitude. In the


way that things are being carried out. But the number of things


involved in the systems which will have to change, yes, there are


people at the heart of this who are struggling. These reforms are never


quick, are they? They are always slow and cumbersome and fraught with


difficulties. And we have such a complex benefits system, that any


change you make to it throws up all kinds of goblins. You have to feel


for people who are already disabled, particularly ill, and being told


they have to wait six months. Terminally ill people having to


wait. `` all kinds of problems. The medical assessments are being done


by another body. I imagine DWP was working hard to try and improve it


or not but it seems to be taking time. A sharp rise in cancers caused


by lifestyle. The usual suspects, alcohol, obesity, sunbaking, it is


up to us to prevent this. I saw this at first, and I don't want to make


light of cancer, but it strikes me that unhealthy lifestyle will cause


you to become ill. Drinking, smoking... It is the fact that it is


only increase. We are at figures which should go down and down. But


how do we do this? We see with cigarettes that all sorts of efforts


are being made over marketing, which don't always work. Do we need to do


the same with alcohol and poor quality food? It sounds as if a


thing is becoming a problem. Liver cancer is up a 66%. Overall cancers


are up by 27% over ten year period. Interestingly, the North has a


higher incidence of cancer. There was talk yesterday about refusing


people treatment in A if they are drunk. All of this has invitations


for the NHS and what it can do. But there is only so much you can do.


The incidence of skin cancer increased by 61%. That is going on


holidays in hot countries. So we should stay at home in the rain.


Looking at the Daily Express. Carrots can fight cancer. The danger


is that we talk about cancer as though it is one disease and of


course it is many different sorts. The argument here is that there are


natural compounds in carrots that protect it from attack by pestilent


diseases, and if we could harness that, it seems, maybe it would help


us. It seems that these cures are a long way off. They hope that these


polyester `` chemicals in carrots which protect the carrot itself from


attack, could be used to prevent attacks from cancer type diseases in


humans. So let us all eat celeriac. I like those vegetables. It says


they are going to recruit schools of volunteers to participate in a


dietary trial. If you don't like carrots at the beginning, you might


at the end. Let us look at a miniature carousel of things. A


patronising ruffle of the hair by Luis Suarez. The Sun says we are


through, but there is a huge caveat. It says that if Italy beat Costa


Rica, and then we score against Costa Rica, we will be through.


Finally, the Times. Game over, it asks. How might they still make it


through? Leeds amazingly, if there is a chance that if they beat Costa


Rica, it seems a bit mad to suggest that the team could win just one


game and get through, but England must beat Costa Rica, and then we


will all be cheering on Friday that Italy do indeed beat Costa Rica and


that the Italians are much better at keeping Luis Suarez quiet than


England were tonight. Basically, Italy must go through with maximum


points, and England must hope that they beat Costa Rica by a handful of


goals. It's possible. It is possible. We have to hope. We can't


possibly give up now. If there is still a chance, we have to believe.


It is time for all England fans to start praying. Towards Christ the


Redeemer. They have paid a lot of money to get there. We will wait and


see. We can only hope. We are all behind them. Thank you both, it is


time for World Cup


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