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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

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With me is Martin Bentham, Home Affairs Editor at the London Evening

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Standard and Yasmin Alibhai Brown, columnist from the Independent.

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The mother of a man from Cardiff filmed in a jihadist recruitment

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video appealing for him to come home is the lead story for the Metro.

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The Daily Telegraph's front story is an investigation into claims

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The paper also says the MI6 were handed intelligence five months ago

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outlining the takeover of jihadists is Northern Iraq.

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''Tories put Profits over Patients'' is the headline on the Mirror, top

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doctors criticising the Health and Social Care Act saying millions are

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The Guardian has the ongoing row over who will be the next president

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of the European Commission. The Daily Express focuses on Britain

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facing what it calls 'hayfever hell' with double

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the sufferers this summer. You were sniffing your way through

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the main bulletin because URA sufferer. MI6 neglected and alert to

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jihadi 's takeover. Intelligence of this plan takeover of northern Iraq

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by Isis. It appears that it was the Kurds who were trying to encourage

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Britain and America to engage in some way. We know that there's

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precious little intelligence about where the ISIS fighters are and who

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they are. The Kurds thought that this risk was there. The question is

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what would we have done if we had responded to this. The fact of the

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matter is that the Americans and we as well are not very keen to get

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involved. Barack Obama is quoted here from yesterday saying we can't

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think we will play whackamole. Perhaps with hindsight there should

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have been some response. It wouldn't have been a full`scale military

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response. With all this going on, all of us, all of the time, it would

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have helped, surely, for behind`the`scenes work to be done,

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at least to know who is arming these guys. This is a well`planned

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initiative. Everybody knows where they are going next. If there was

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any information surely there's something that could have been done.

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The Telegraph is saying that there was a bit of neglect. There have

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been more and more examples of that. What could have been done is

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what we've seen in recent days with military advisers, giving some

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strategic advice about how to defend the place and maybe bolstering

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defences in some ways. It has to be remembered that it wasn't just the

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Americans being desperate to get out of Iraq. It was the government that

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wanted him to leave. It's not a Western governments to intervene

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because of what has happened in the there are so much intelligence work

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and other kinds of interventions that happened behind the scenes. I

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don't know how this was allowed to get to this point macro. It has got

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to this point because of what has happened in Syria. Isis has been

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growing in strength. Five months ago they hadn't even taken for Lucia ``

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another city. It's not back closely linked with Syria. In such a

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well`planned insurgents. There's a huge amount of money behind them. ?1

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billion. Some of that they had gained themselves by their

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successors. Selling off antiquities. A lot of this stuff has the backing

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of Saudi Arabia. There's a lot of that going on. No pressure seems to

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be put on them. It comes partly from Syria. Partly caused by the failure

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of the Nouri al`Maliki government. People don't recognise the borders.

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That's the point about their organisation. It's a new country

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they are trying to form. I think our intelligence services have some

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questions to ask. It's a bit too easy to blame them. Britain is the

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country my son has betrayed in the Guardian. Video urging Westerners to

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join him in the fight in Syria. His father lives in Cardiff and we heard

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the shock in his voice. He had his sons passport but they got a new

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passport. We've heard the stress in his mother 's voice when she was

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interviewed. No idea that this was where they were heading.

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Unfortunately this is a story we haven't heard in this terms, but

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police have been saying for some time that some people have gone over

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there and their families go to the police saying please help us to get

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our sons back. That's the problem. Some of these men are 16, 17 and 18.

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Old enough to do their own thing. Parents can't always control them.

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That's the interesting thing. Some of these people are

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third`generation. In spite of having difficult times when they settled

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they have a deep attachment to this country. The father said I came here

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as an orphan and I feel close to this country. Something has happened

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to this third`generation or they are being influenced in ways may be

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through the Internet or wherever, even the parents don't recognise.

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Possibly the influence of the Internet but there has been some

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radicalisation taking place in Cardiff. The police and MI5 think

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it's not just the Internet but there are also facilitators. Some very

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smart people are getting caught up in this. Brainwashing is what it is.

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They are highly intelligent, a lot of them. These two young men, as

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we've seen they've had great opportunities. One of them got a

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place at medical school. They were not failures. They had been seduced

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by this ideology. I can't understand at. A warning of a split with the

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EU. Duncan Smith raises the stakes in the row over the choice of EU

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president. David Cameron is not keen on this man. He hasn't endeared

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himself to the media. Iain Duncan Smith says the idea of us staying is

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unlikely if Jean`Claude Juncker gets the job. They can't just leave. It

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seems quite peculiar thick Iain Duncan Smith to say this. This is a

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club of many nations and Britain can't dictate. He has a point. There

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is an argument that it doesn't really matter who's in charge.

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Whoever it is will have a similar type of perspective. Jean`Claude

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Juncker has been built up into this bogeyman. He has been at the centre

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of this. He believes in Europe. An ever closer union which is something

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we don't believe in in general. If our government is trying to say

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this. There was a minority saying we don't like the way things are going

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and somebody who's been at the centre of the European project in

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such a central way. I think we should make Nigel Farage. That's

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what we should be fighting for. Keep him away from the general election

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next year. Andy Murray, I'm ready to wow you all over again. Promises,

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promises. Wouldn't it be marvellous if he does it again? He managed to

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live with the pressure last year. A great success. He could relieve all

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of the football boom. It will be a tough battle for him. He seems to be

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handling better since his last victory. We are more forgiving. It's

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a British attitude. We want him to be ruthless. Let's move back to the

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Daily Telegraph. Retirement, give it up and train as a teacher.

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Pensioners will be encouraged to retrain as teachers, particularly if

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they have sciences and engineering are specialities. I wonder how

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appealing this will be. I love the idea. Sometimes I think his ideas

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are good. Study on! Credit where it's due. ` steady on. So many of us

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are living longer. We can't imagine giving up altogether. It's a

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horrible thing, waiting to die. The one thing in this country that we

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need is more intergenerational linkups. It happens within veteran

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soldiers talking to young people. It's good if people want to do it

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but the nu tea are threatening to strike. The school retirement age

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will rise to 67. Not really feasible. Conflicting problems.

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People don't have enough money for retirement so they are told to work

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for longer but can they hang onto their jobs? I think it's a very good

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idea if want to do it. In certain subjects there is a shortage of

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teachers. Maybe some of them want respite from looking after their

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grandchildren. Get paid for it. Instead of being unpaid help. We

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were well behaved. Whether it can continue at 11:25pm we will wait and

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see. We will be back them. Stay with us. More on the warning from the

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UK's most senior counterterrorism police officer on the threat of

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fighters returning to Britain from Syria. Please buy a newspaper

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tomorrow because we won't have anything to talk about if you don't.

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A way of hearing gunfire in the most concealed of places. I'm all ears.

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