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22/06/2014

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argued against backing Jean`Claude Juncker for the role. Kievan

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Girouard says he wants more time to decide whether or not to quit

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international football. `` Steven Gerrard.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing

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us tomorrow. With me is Martin Bentham, home affairs Editor at the

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London Evening Standard and Yasmin Alibhai Brown, columnist from the

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Independent. Tomorrow's front pages starting with... The Daily Telegraph

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investigates football match fixing. The Financial Times is cutting the

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international terrorism budget. `` features a story on the government.

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The crisis in Iraq leads the Independent. The Times leads on an

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NHS finance story. Also a picture of Andy Murray who will begin to defend

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his Wimbledon title tomorrow. So let's begin... The Telegraph first.

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This is the issue of ISIS being on the march. Yes, and they must have

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known at MI6 because they watch everything and everybody. Was a

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decision made or was it neglect or were they just hopeless? Even if

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they knew, what could they have done? I'm not sure which one of

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those it would have been but it seems to me absolutely clear that

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they must've known. The Americans have been very clear in the last few

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days that they need more Intel and that if they do anything, that must

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be a contribution. They have only started flying drone missions to

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take aerial surveillance over the last few weeks. This was five months

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ago and the subtext to all of this is that the Americans don't really

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want to get involved. He had been reluctant in the last few days to

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have any involvement in this. I think, actually, although this was

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five months ago, ISIS took over Falluja white it while ago and once

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they had secured that area, obviously there was a threat of them

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spreading elsewhere. What worries me is, I am a Shia Muslim and it is an

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old battle that started after the Prophet died and it has reappeared

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with a vengeance and that is quite frightening because as far as I'm

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concerned, Muslims can be of various denominations like Christians can

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but there now seems to be a concerted effort to wipe out Shia

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people partly because of the bad politics in Iraq. And the bad

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politics of Nouri al`Maliki. He has not been inclusive. Let's move on

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and look at the Financial Times, the counterterrorism budget has been cut

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to ?15 million coming up with efforts to slim down the diplomatic

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service. Obviously, in the light of what is happening in Iraq and the

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need for intelligence, this will be of huge concern. To be fair to the

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government, the Foreign Office doesn't fund everything. It is not

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the same as MI6 cutting anything, their budget is still going up. The

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overseas work of MI6 will continue. But the Foreign Office has

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essentially been very good at knowing these nations. There are

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many people who understand the terrain and the politics and it

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seems to me, if you want to cut down at the Foreign Office, these

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embassies abroad, let's start with those, they are astonishing. You

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don't need these palaces anymore. I think to cut down this section would

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be excellent. You can't have a British embassy in a bid to break

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house can you `` in a red brick house. I have been to about four or

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five and they are outstanding. I have been to the one in Paris.

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You're going to Wimbledon tomorrow so you can't complain. The

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Guardian, Britain is my country but my son has betrayed it. This is the

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father of Nasser Muthana who said that he was shocked and saddened

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when he found out what happened and that his wife collapsed to the

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ground. The impact that it has on families when they find out where

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their children have gone to is devastating. And the wives, so many

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times the wives of these young men don't know where they're going. He

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could have been such a good doctor and gone to these countries and

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helped. And when they come back, the fate that awaits them is pretty grim

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if it can be proved that they have been involved in terrorism or gone

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to a training camp. It is a maximum of ten ten years and there is a very

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heavy penalty for having partaken in one of these training camps

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particularly if you are filled with these weapons as they often are in

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the videos. We should start on brainwashing them when they get

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back. Something happens to their heads and we should be doing much

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more work with them. That is obviously the key in the long run,

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trying to ensure that they become normalised. We have had the effect

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of Afghanistan and Iraq and so on and it has been creating a problem

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for so long where you have had Cressida Dick talking about how this

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problem has been around or many years `` for. I remove or steering

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five years ago about how the threat from Al`Qaeda would last for years

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and that was also dissipating a little bit and now we are back with

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a new one. Another story in the Guardian, Torry warning of a split

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with the EU as the PM enters into a row with the next commission

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president. This is whether or not Jean`Claude Juncker should be the

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head of the European commission. David Cameron has his suspicions and

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he is not the only one who is not keen on him. The centreleft Italian

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Prime Minister is not excited anyway. I think Angela Merkel is. I

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think she is in a position where the cause of the largest policy being

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aligned with him, I think it is suggesting that behind the scenes

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she is not that happy but she is in a position where she feels she has

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to do it and I think that is what this story is suggesting. David

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Cameron wants to flesh out Angela Merkel and the Italian Prime

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Minister and make them vote his way. If I was more committed to the

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European Union as a country, I would get really fed up with us. But not

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everyone across Europe is keen with what we have at the moment. I think

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it needs reform but we have been so halfhearted about belonging and we

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want to over exert the influence that we do have. I don't think we

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should necessarily think that all of these countries are acting in a

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quantitative or altruistic way. You're fighting for their own

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interests. The the Independent is back to Iraq. The great unraveling

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with Sunni militants seizing more towns yesterday. The West agonizes

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over how to respond. Is this the unraveling of Iraq? Can it exist in

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its current form or will it exist in name only? That is one of the big

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questions and ISIS certainly wants to achieve the unraveling of Iraq.

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You are now potentially going to have a attractive situation which

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may end up resulting nothing at the end or having a Kurdish area and

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then a Shia area... The boundaries were drawn in Britain. A couple of

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diplomats, wasn't it? It wasn't a nation. It was made into a nation

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and now it is breaking apart again and I think it is tragic. It is

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tragic. Just like other parts of the world like the Balkans or the Soviet

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Union, we don't have need divides between religious groups or ethnic

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groups, people do have to mingle amongst each other and live together

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in an ideal world, so it will not be a good situation. I am reminded of

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the Sykes`Picot agreement. But it was the wife of one of the diplomats

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who drew the boundaries. I am not going to argue with you. The i. This

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is about the HS two. `` HS3. Should the money be spent on developing

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better transport links between the northern cities? There was a big

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piece recently about this whole idea of a Megan northern city linking in

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all the northern cities together `` mega. There is an argument to say

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that it could certainly happen. It is so expensive. It is, but then we

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will have it. It is an investment, certainly. I can't see businesses

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taking that big a rest but perhaps they will. It seems that all these

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meta` structural things are done by governments `` businesses. Moving on

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to the Times, critics predict delays due to a shortfall from cuts to the

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NHS. I don't know where they're going to get the money. If. `` if.

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rising demand. And in ageing population. It may be one of the

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issues but we need to take about what is covered by the NHS and what

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the limits are. They're not going to break up the NHS. It would absorb

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any amount of money you care to throw at it. There were very big

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mistakes made. It is a public and private partnership which has cost

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the NHS an enormous amount of money. The central government made

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those mistakes with the restructuring. Successive

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governments did as well. This was Gordon Brown! It is a disaster. That

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isn't the whole cause of this great black hole that is being talked

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about here and there is a question about which drugs are provided and

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how much everything is costing. It has to be something which is always

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part of the conversation. Or whether people who drink or smoke too much

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are going to be covered by our NHS system. Here is Andy Murray. I

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wonder if he will be allowed to wear this particular T`shirt because they

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are clamping down on what they're allowed to wear. It has to be

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predominantly white. Should the standards be maintained? I think

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they should. We don't want advertisers. It makes it easier for

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BBC coverage. It is just wrong to be branded in this way. And visible

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undergarments ring play `` during, must also be completely white. No

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colourful pans. I will check tomorrow that they are wearing the

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same thing. That is all for now. Stay with us here on BBC News. At

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midnight ` more on the warning from the UK's most senior

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counter`terrorism police officer about the threat of fighters

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returning to Britain from Syria. But coming up next it's time for World

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Cup Sportsday.

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