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rain in the north`west of Scotland by the end of the day, that will

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push further southwards, threatening rain in the south`east in time for

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the weekend. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are Eleanor

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Mills, Editorial Director of The Sunday Times and Owen Jones, the

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author and columnist for The Guardian. Pretty much all of the

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front pages are in. Both have a look at them now. `` let's have a look. A

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police mugshot of Rolf Harris dominates the front page of the

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Telegraph. The veteran entertainer been found

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guilty of 12 charges of indecently assaulting four girls.

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The Metro says some of Rolf Harris's crimes took place while he was

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fronting a campaign to raise awareness about child abuse.

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The Guardian shows a picture of Harris leaving court with his

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family, after hearing the guilty verdicts. The Express also shows the

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police picture of Rolf Harris. That picture's also on the front of The

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Mail. The Independent shows Rolf Harris

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with his self`portrait, alongside the caption Portrait of a Predator.

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The Financial Times says bankers at BNP Paribas are facing pay cuts,

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after it agreed to pay a fine of around $9 billion for breaking

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sanctions laws. The Times leads on an opinion poll

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by YouGov for the paper on voting intentions in Scotland's

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independence referendum. We are going to start with the Daily

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Mail. For 50 years, the face of wholesome family TV. Now we know the

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truth about Rolf Harris. A story about another man with power and

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prestige, the national sweetheart who used his celebrity not only to

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gain access to people he abused, but to protect himself on the basis that

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no one would ever be able to come forward. If we look at the horror of

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the incidents he was involved with, the fact that it would happen in

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public, where he would us all people as young as eight years old and act

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as though nothing happened. What is important that has come out of this

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is the sense that, however powerful people are, however much prestige

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they have to their name, people can come forward. That is important,

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this Operation Yewtree has had its critics, saying it is in the past

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and they have been other incidents where people have been found not

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guilty, it is estimated that 400,000 women are sexually assaulted each

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year, 80,000 women are raped. Very few and up with guilty convictions.

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Many people don't come forward. If anything comes out of this, this is

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what has been set by the prosecution, that people will be

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able to come forward. This is another horrific example following

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Jimmy Savile and others using power and prestige. Operation Yewtree came

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out of the investigation into Jimmy Savile and was widened and as a

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result the net was thrown across a number of people who were very high

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profile for a number of years. That sings in for a lot of people as

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well, that these people they grew up with on TV, people like Rolf

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Harris, who were a staple in households up and down the country,

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were actually hiding something much darker behind`the`scenes. It was

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Rolf Harris, Max Clifford, Stuart Hall, I think what I find

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interesting is that I hope the sexual mores have changed enough

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that people would speak out against those kind of president is now. It

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is about deference and a match Okore cha, it was about stars who seemed

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to be above everything `` culture. What is heart`wrenching is the

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stories about the victims. The tabloids are doing Jimmy Savile and

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Rolf Harris and how they went together to Broadmoor, they used to

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watch women are dressing and so on. There may have been some collusion

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going on, which sounds grim. There is a sense that these men thought

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they were entirely above the law, omnipotent, they absolutely used

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their power over people to get their way for a long time. What is awful

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is the tales from the victims. There is a brave Australian woman called

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Tonia, who waved her anonymity to speak about it and she speaks about

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being 15, sitting on his lap and what he did with other people

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around. It is the brazenness of it. This man assaulted his 13`year`old

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daughter's best friend while she is lying next to him. He revelled in

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the power that he could do this in plain sight and no one would pass

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him. It must have been an amazing power rush for him. `` bust him.

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That is why justice is so important. It is why I hope people no one feels

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they are above the law. If we go to the times. Rolf Harris has 40 years

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of depravity `` Rolf Harris's. Eating up on the point made, and the

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point made by the public prosecution, who helped bring the

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charges against Rolf Harris, he made the point that no one is above the

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law `` bringing up on the point. Hopefully, the sexual mores have

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changed and developed and hopefully, no one in a position of fame or what

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ever will feel they can get away with it. If only things have

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changed. Statistics show it is the case that most people sexually ``

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who are sexually assaulted are raped come forward and very few get guilty

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verdicts. Is that due to the police? It is, yes. The possessions

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of these massive cases are changing. `` perceptions. What is it they

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discovered about Jimmy Savile? People saying, he did it to me also.

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They could not do that while he was alive, which is awful. The

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floodgates have opened. I don't think someone would reckon they

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could get away with this. You disagree? That has to be the hope.

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We have moved on from this narrative and this commentary but there were

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some critics of Operation Yewtree who said this was in the past. A

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sense people pushing of false accusations, how the real victims

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are the people who were falsely accused. Who were all represented by

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Max Clifford, one of the worst ringleaders. The point that we

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should focus on is that there are so many people in this country who are

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victims of sexual violence who never get justice. That is why these cases

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are important. All of us, let's be honest, saw this today and instantly

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a lot of us thought, my word, that is part of my childhood. A cultural

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violation of everyone. That is what protected these people in the first

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place. Rolf Harris? The beloved artist. He couldn't do something

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like this. He draws bunny ears and animals. Rape is always about

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power. It isn't about lust or Selt shall attraction. It is totally

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about power. `` sexual attraction. These people know they have this

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power that they can wield. That is how they get a kick out of it. It is

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frightening. We need to look broader, beyond the celebrities. It

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was a culture in which old, powerful men had a sense of themselves about

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`` around the women around them. You hear the narrative about men not

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being safe in taxis and that it was up to women to deal with it and

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fight them off. There is a shift in the society now. Everyday sexism,

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pointing this out. There is much more of a sense that women are more

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empowered. If anything comes out of it, it has to be a good thing. Those

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campaigns are hugely inspiring initiatives. What they do show

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is... How prevalent it is. The objectification of women by men.

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That is why we cannot separate rape from the broader sense. It is the

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case in society that women are treated as sexual objects to exist

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for the gratification of men, which we need to fight. It is almost

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becoming worse. Internet porn and the extreme varieties of VAT, which

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are so available everywhere and two very young kids, is fuelling the

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worse objectification of women that we have seen `` varieties of that.

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We must be aware of that and campaigned against it. Let's move on

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to the Guardian. The bottom they are, Israel says Hamas will pay

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after teenagers are found dead. The voice of Israeli people will be for

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the call for some kind of military response to the discovery these

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three teenagers kidnapped weeks ago have been found dead. How awful for

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the families, that they have been found dead and they are so young.

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Missing while hitchhiking back from school. At the centre of that is a

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real human tragedy. There will be far more tragedy because what always

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seems to happen in Israel is that you get a terrible thing will happen

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and Israeli authorities say it was Hamas already and 500 people have

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been rounded up and there have been raids. What has been clear from

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Netanyahu and the economy minister, they say that now is the time to act

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and there will be reprisals against Hamas and Palestinians who are seen

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as the people who killed these children. It is awful for the

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Israeli families. There has to be a fear of a wider conflation, more

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hostility, horrible things happening. We have the caliphate

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announced by ISIS. Terrible things going on in Syria and Iraq, it is

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depressing. A word we will hear a lot of his proportionality and what

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kind of response is warranted from Israel, who claim that it is Hamas

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who are responsible for the deaths of these teenagers `` is

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proportionality. These deaths are horrific and sickening crimes which

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have torn entire families apart and have provoked a huge emotional

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reaction. We must learn about five Palestinians have been killed as a

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response to raids which followed the disappearance of these three lads

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who have been murdered horribly. We have five people dead, life is our

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life and death is a death. The danger is collective punishment that

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might follow the deaths of these young teenagers. That there won't be

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a proportionate response. Everyone will support justice. Those

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responsible must be taken to justice. Where you have a Nokia

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nation that remains and is a illegal under international law, where you

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have Israel committing, in response to other acts of disproportionate

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responses, where innocent people die, the danger is that these wind,

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the five Palestinians who have died in the three young teenagers who

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have been killed, that will not be the only death we see. If there is a

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disproportionate response, it will end in the deaths of people on both

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sides, which we need to be levelheaded about, because the

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danger is now, in Israel, there will be such an emotional response it

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will be manipulated to support that angle. It has been said already

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there needs to be a widespread operation to eradicate Hamas. Israel

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claimed that Hamas are responsible and claim they have evidence they

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are responsible. Is the evidence is there that Hamas leadership is

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connected with what happened? From this story, there don't seem to be,

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and from what one reads in the paper, it does not seem to be this

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person was ordered by this Hamas commander to do this. You would

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wonder why Hamas would order the execution of three young Israeli

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boys. They know what is likely to come down on them from the Israeli

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army if that was the case. Why would you do it? I think it is incredibly

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sad and awful and it will be even more horrible violence. Israeli

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intelligence say they have the names of the people involved. There needs

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to be a proper judicial response. Due process. Not collective

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punishment where it innocent civilians die. It has already

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happened as a result. That never happens in Israel. You get a tribal

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setting up against each other, in a place that is already full of

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inflamed tension. Let's go on to the Sun, the back page. Mr Suarez. I am

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sorry. In brackets they have, can I join Barcelona now? This guy has

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beaten three members of opposing teams over the last three years.

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Three! This is the first time he has apologised. Why? He wants to go to

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Spain. He accidentally fell over and his teeth happened to collide with

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an innocent shoulder. Normal rough and tumble of a contact sport. Would

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you believe that if your kids at that? Did you read the statement?

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What appears to have happened is the man happens to have been bitten as I

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passed him. Today, he says he did it. That's what it says in the

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statement. The rumours are this is his attempt to get to Barcelona.

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Unless he apologises, psychologist has said that if he has beaten

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someone already, he will do it again. There is something clearly

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going on. There are other controversies. It is weird to go

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around biting. Zombielike response. Let's not discuss his mental state

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to note. It will take too long. The Daily Telegraph. `` tonight. You

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aren't selling it to me, we aren't interested. I am sorry, this is a

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massive story. The Daily Telegraph said, so much for summer, autumn is

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here already. This hinges on beech nuts and butterflies which are

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already here. And, raspberries are out early. My mum is making jam.

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That is the kiss of death. The barbecue summer. The Express rarely

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get it wrong. Analysis shows. I don't think it feels autumnal. It is

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a typical summer. It definitely cannot reign. You are in trouble,

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love. Many thanks. Much appreciated. Stay with us. We will have more of

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the fallout from the guilty verdicts against Rolf Harris, guilty

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of indecently assaulting four girls and women. Now, it is time for World

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Cup Sportsday.

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