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thunderstorms from time to time. More details on the weekend on the

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website and you can follow us on Twitter.

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We had Randeep Ramesh, social affairs editor for the Guardian, and

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Daisy McAndrew, the broadcaster. Tonight, on the Daily Express, the

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story about tighter aviation security internationally. The Metro

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talks about a multi`million pound lottery scam. The Guardian talks

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about bringing large sections of the rail network back under British

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control. The main picture on the Daily Mail of the Canadian tennis

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player, Bouchard, celebrating winning her semi`final at Wimbledon.

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The i says that extra security checks at airports are likely to

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become permanent. Hammers on's tax affairs are being handed over,

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according to the Financial Times. The Scotsman reports on a funding

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boost that is promised to Glasgow if they vote against independence.

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Let's begin with the bomb plot we have been hearing about all day. It

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is on the front of the Daily Mirror. .

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There is an x`ray, as most airports can do. This man is meant to be Al

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Qaeda's top bomb maker. At the moment we are not seeing delays, but

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there is a heightened sense of awareness about this new kind of

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bond that is pretty much invisible to import equipment. It has been

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doing the rounds for a few years, they must have a credible threat on

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which they are acting. There was a delay of about an hour at

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Manchester, perhaps that is just normal. This chap has been making

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this stuff for a couple of years, and attempted to blow up a Saudi

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Prince by surgically implanting explosives into his brother. It is

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terrifying, on the face of it. But we still wait for any of this

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stuff... We don't want this stuff to happen, but it is a kind of threat

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with evidence. Whether that is credible or not, the jury is out. If

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we do see increased delays, which my understanding is, there are two

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types of bombs that authorities are concerned about. New types of bombs,

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either embedded within the body, which is why we might be subjected

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to these full body scanners, or in laptops. A new type that can't be to

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take it, and apparently security officials are already been told to

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turn every laptop on and off as it goes through security. That would

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clearly increased the delay timers become up to the biggest and busiest

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summer holiday time. I'm sure the threat is there, as the Daily Mirror

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says, from jihadis, but it also seems convenient that we are hearing

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a lot of stories about British kids over there who might be coming home,

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and the stories seem to be, these other men, these are the terrorists

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who were hiding bombs in their bodies somewhere. It is connecting

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what is going on there with security here. Isn't one of the suggestions

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for why it is happening now that this bomb maker has recently pledged

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allegiance to this new caliphate, these Islamists who are running

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rampant across Syria and Iraq. He is part of their picture, they have

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extra capabilities and could wreak havoc here, not just in the Middle

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East. ISIS emerged, the sky is in Yemen, and there is supposed to be a

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deal done. It seems far`fetched to suggest that it has already reached

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British jihadis fighting in Syria and Iraq, and they will return to

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fight in the UK. There are hundreds of people who have gone from this

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country to join what is happening in Syria, perhaps intending for it to

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be an humanitarian effort, then they get sidetracked. A lot of them are

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going to come home, is it not reasonable to assume that a small

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proportion of them may use their newfound skills in a way we don't

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want them to. I think they would surely want to, but whether they are

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in the kind of league... He is the Western world's number one terrorist

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bogeyman. The CIA thought they had killed him half a dozen times, but

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then he would pop up again and it wasn't him they had killed. He is a

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very special character, and the idea that a lot of the foot soldiers

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would have any connection with him is strange. But the threat must be

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real, or they wouldn't be putting extra measures in unless they want

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the publicity for some other reason that we don't know about. Fury as

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banks and Wonga are sending debt collection threats. There is no

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suggestion that banks are hiding behind third party names and sending

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threatening letters to customers. It seems that a lot of the banks what

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they do say is that it was clearly printed in the small print that

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these companies whose names or no relation to the banks or energy

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companies who were using them to threaten people and get them to pay

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up. They do say it was there in the small print, but why make up names?

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Stirling Collection was Scottish Power. You wouldn't think that these

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were the legal departments of the companies involved, you would assume

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that your case had been referred to a debt collector, and that suddenly

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you would get a bang on the door, that your credit rating might be

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going through the floor. You would be very frightened. Barkley say they

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have now dropped the pretence, Lloyds have said they are phasing

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out there name of their solicitors, and Scottish Power have said it was

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in the small print. `` Barclays Bank. You can't think they were

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still in that we face. What I find extraordinary is that they know how

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unpopular they are. Since the credit crunch, both energy companies and

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banks, they have been public villains. Most chairmen that I have

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interviewed have admitted they have a trust issue. We understand that we

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have to get that trust back for our customers. You think, wouldn't you

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do a root and branch? All departments tell me if there is

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anything... I think we just object to them making money. There is a

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perception we are being squeezed by energy companies as gas budgets fall

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in our bills go up, or banks try to recover their bad landing on the

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backs of honest borrowers. And that there has been endless dishonesty. I

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think it is fair to target them for that. Let's move on. If the Scots go

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it alone will be heartbroken, says the PM. He has been speaking in

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Perth today, 76 days tomorrow until the referendum on Scottish

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independence. Tugging on the heartstrings and a little sweetener

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of ?500 million for Glasgow if they vote to stay with the union. They

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have lost a lot of the arguments with the Scots. Rory Stewart, who is

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a Borders MP for the Tories, and now chairman of the first Select

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Committee, actually said this. We have to use the argument of love,

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because we love them and we don't want them to go. He should be

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heartbroken, because he might not be a PM. He won't just be heartbroken,

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he'll be unemployed as well! You can't go to the Queen and say, I've

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lost Scotland, and survive! If it was a yes vote, David Cameron would

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not be able to stay as leader of the party and as PM, but ironically the

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Conservative party will be bolstered, because they will have

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lost Scotland, where they have no votes. Labour will have lost

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Scotland where they have many votes. Many MPs are saying, it is

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extraordinary, everyone would lose. David Cameron would lose short`term,

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the Tories would win in the long`term. On the playground figures

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have changed, the emphasis has switched in the last few years.

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Social networking sites are the most common places that children are

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bullied. It is all hidden away, and parents and teachers are not

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necessarily aware of it. It is a phenomena and at the age, isn't it?

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Children spend all this time interacting with these machines

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which allows them to interact with their friends, rather than

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interacting with their friends. To be bullied face`to`face. The last

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time I looked, I think Facebook was falling down the rankings. It is a

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bit pase, because your parents are on it! I did a big piece last year

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about teenage depression, and social networking was part of this. They

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have to create this perfect world they live in, with thousands of

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friends that they don't even know. It is this online perfect world but

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it bears no relation to their reality. The Guardian. State bid for

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rail franchises is under late. Contracts are up for renewal, Andy

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suggestion that the state could take on parts of the rail network. There

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could be a staggered return to renationalisation. We don't want it

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to look like British rail used to. I think actually most people have

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forgotten how awful British Rail was. Rail lines and rail services

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are massively better than they ever have been before. But not perfect.

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Not perfect by any stretch. Daily commuters will be testifying to

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that. But what sticks in the throat of many politicians and civil

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servants is that there is all that money swirling around, going into

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the private hands, and it could be going into the Treasury coffers. It

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would be popular with the unions, I'm not sure how realistic it is.

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Would it be popular with voters? Know, and I think it would probably

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dampen some of the Labour argument. It is very popular with Tory voters,

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surprisingly. Ed Miliband has had this record playing for some time

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about how it is absurd that foreign companies here making big profits

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from reddish rail passengers `` British. Of course, he can point at

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the massive mess up that transport made two years ago. Something good

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came out of it, because the east coastline is now doing well, better

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than it was predicted to do. A Labour Party spokesman has said we

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will set out our policy at the appropriate time. We have always

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been clear we want a good deal for the fare payer and the taxpayer. The

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two aren't necessarily the same. People who never use the trains

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might think, why on earth should we be effectively subsidising rail

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networks that we don't use? We all do that anyway, so we might get

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something back. It sticks in the throat, not just that we could get

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something back, but foreign governments are all getting money

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out of British Railways and British people buying their tickets. So you

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can see this sense of it, but as you were saying, it does muddy the

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message of Labour trying to get votes. Here we have, a banker pays

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Tories a large amount of money for a game with the PM and Mayor. This is

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a way of giving the party some money. It is a curious story,

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because they were issuing so many denials through the day, until

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finally they admitted it was the banker wife of the former Russian

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deputy finance minister who paid the money. It adds to this swirl of

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Russian money around the Conservative party. Ill`advised

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friends. Is she a reporter? One of the problems that politicians and

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reporters get themselves into, is denying that part of it is true.

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There is the impression that it is not true. It was this man's wife,

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and they denied that, she made a big donation. If you buy something in an

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auction, this not count as an ordinary donation? Is that not a way

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to get around the donation rules? This raised about ?1 million last

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year, this kind of thing, so ?160,000 seems quite a lot. That is

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the Papers for this evening. And you to our guests, Daisy McAndrew and

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Randeep Ramesh. We will be looking at the danger facing the US borders

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as it warns of a credible terrorist threat. Now, it is time for World

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Cup Sportsday.

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