04/07/2014 The Papers


04/07/2014

No need to wait until tomorrow morning to see what's in the papers. Martine Croxall presents a lively and informed conversation about the next day's headlines.


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Welcome to look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us. Raring

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to go to night. Good to have you both here. Tomorrow's front pages.

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The Daily Mail has the jailing of Rolf Harris. The Western mail

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pictures the disgraced star. The tension was too lenient according to

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child protection campaigners but notes he could be free in three

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years. The Independent says a major Tory donor is the favourite take

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over the schools watchdog the critics say he could face a conflict

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of interests because he a chain of academies. Statins could be used to

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prevent breast cancer. The Times says the Prime Minister has secretly

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agreed to transfer more policing powers to the TEU. Andy Coulson is

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pictured on the Guardian. He was sentenced 18 months in jail for

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conspiracy to hack phones. Let's begin with a story that has

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dominated most of the bulletins today, the sentencing of Rolf

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Harris, the disgraced entertainer. On the front pages of quite a few

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papers. The Daily Mail. Smoking is a final insult to his victims. A judge

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savages him as he shows no remorse. As we look back at what went on in

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court, singing songs and describing his career, it seems extraordinary.

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It does. What really stands out for me, if he was smirking in court, is

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the voice of the victims. I don't want to paraphrase it. One said it

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made me feel dirty, grubby and disgusting and another said he stole

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her innocence. That's what we've got to remember. Lives have been

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damaged. I know we will talk about the sentencing because I think a lot

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of people were quite shocked at that. We will talk about that in a

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moment. What has come out when some of them speak, some of them have so

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wanted to have their story told and believed. The sentence didn't really

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matter to them, it was being believed publicly and having their

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day in court. Absolutely. This season that seems to be going on of

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these trials from the past, if anything good has come out of that

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it's been the absolute recognition that the victims are not the ones

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who are the bearers of shame and guilt in anyway. The vast majority

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of people who've suffered abuse have been ` would not have been abused by

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household names. Hopefully this could encourage more people to step

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forward and throw away the last scintilla of stigma. Even though a

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long time has passed it doesn't mean that it's impossible to secure a

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conviction. That's what I've been encouraged by. If you commit a crime

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justice will find you. We will come after you. That's another thing that

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has stuck with me. Hopefully it is a deterrent as well as providing

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justice. We've talked about this a lot over many trials. Time seemed to

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have changed. This is probably leading as nicely into the headline

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for the Daily Mail. Five years in jail but could he be jailed for

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longer. A sickening stash of child porn is revealed. Images of child

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abuse, he will be prosecuted because it's not in the public interest.

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Because this is an historical set of crimes the law as it stood in those

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days is what applied. It's not the law that stands today which might

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account for the sentence. I suppose it shows that people say the world

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is getting worse, but thanks goodness standards have changed in

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this case. It says something about the times we were living in. You

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think about that sentence, five years and nine months. One year plus

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a month each victim. If he gets out in three years it's less than a

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year. It's quite shocking and the Attorney General should look at this

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sentence. It's being referred already. Let's move on to the

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Independent. It's one of the few papers that does not have Rolf

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Harris on its front page. It has the hacking corporate. This is the

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sentencing. Andy Coulson got 18 months. That's their main picture

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story. The main story on the Independent is an outcry as a Tory

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donor is put in charge of Ofsted. David Ross has made a lot of money

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through his carphone warehouse business. Donating money to the

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Conservatives. He might be up for the job, we don't know for certain.

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It is very interesting. One of the rationales is that they were the can

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for somebody with great business experience. It shows what an

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inspector would be looking for. Michael Gove seems to be producing

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no end of sensations and discussions wherever he goes. It's a shocker of

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a story. We're talking about standards in our children's

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education. Who do you have chairing it, and entrepreneur. What is their

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experience level? There's a clear conflict of interest if he gets this

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job because he has helped fund 25 academies. What happens when Ofsted

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goes into one his academies. Do they get an outstanding straightaway?

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Timmy lowers the role of Ofsted. It's not a political football. ` to

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me it lowers. Impartiality. This is a statement in one of the newspaper

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articles. The recruitment process for the new chair of Ofsted is

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ongoing. And in the Linacre independent panel will decide who

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was short listed. They will recommend to ministers a list of

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suitable candidates. There are quite a few hurdles and articles like this

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may make them think twice. Absolutely. This article points out

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that there is the possibility of more coalition rapture and is. `

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ruptures. You do wonder. If this gentleman has a passion for the

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role. Passion is not enough. We need the right person. I remember the

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last time I was on here we were talking about children's reading

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levels. We are on a real trajectory. We need the right

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person. I wonder why a multimillionaire would choose to

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jump into this massive stew of hot potatoes. A move to tighten terror

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laws in light of the Lee Rigby killing. Civil liberties groups are

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concerned over a report that next week might be used to press for

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emergency anti`terrorist legislation. The article suggests

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that it could take emergency legislation to prevent potential

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extremists from travelling to Syria and surely this is about the

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surveillance of people when they are back here in a country rather than

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stopping them from going to Syria in the first place. It's not clear what

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they it was a terrible murder. They might be using that to think about

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putting in emergency legislation. I don't think it's the right thing to

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do. There's a lot more grassroots work that can be done. Once you

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start where do you stop? We always talk about UK Muslims. We are

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talking about a huge range of people from a huge range of cultural

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backgrounds and national backgrounds. We need to be careful.

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It has to be done sensitively. Following the murder of Lee would

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there were concerns that the security services had lost sight of

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the two men. That is mentioned here. Is it a failure of surveillance and

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they weren't able to do that or is it because they weren't able to keep

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track of people? Will we bring in restrictions on Civil Liberties to

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deal with a bureaucratic mess up? How many people do you keep track

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of? You have to keep track of so many people. I've been to Syria.

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Would I have come back... With people have been watching me. You

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may be under surveillance. Perhaps you wouldn't know it. Whether you

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stop? I don't mind being under surveillance if it is to eliminate

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me from a list. I think it's a dangerous road to go down. If they

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do go down it a lot of thought needs to go into at. No emergency powers?

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The level of debate within Islam at the moment compares to Reformation

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Europe, dozens of groups, nations, that will not be tackled simply by

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an attack. Let's look at the Daily Mirror. They are saying that statins

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could invent breast cancer. Women with high cholesterol are at

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greatest risk of the disease. Here they are on the front of the Mirror.

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We don't know we huge amount about the study. It seems that statins can

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do so many wonderful things. They can. But I am a person who will go

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for natural options myself, rather than take drugs. I would worry about

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side effects. Sometimes there might be side effects and they are still

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not quite sure what the results would be, in terms of helping women

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with breast cancer. Sure, it can help with cholesterol levels, but

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what does that mean? More research needs to be done. Often, we jump on

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these things and it is years from a cure. It is. It is fascinating to

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see health on the front pages. On a crowded news agenda, a story like

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this cuts through to relatives and family and you think... Very

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quickly, we will look at the Daily Telegraph. There is a commentator

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speaking to the camera. Judging by their tiny waistlines, it

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could not be any of them. That visit for the Papers this hour. We will be

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back at 25 past 11. Stay with us on BBC News. At 11pm, disgraced

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entertainer Rolf Harris is beginning his sentence. Coming up next, sports

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hold off for a place in the semifinals? Germany beat France. The

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old guard

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