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in from the east. Warm air following that, so the second half of the week

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could turn warm and humid. Keep up`to`date with the forecast over

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the next few days. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are Beth Rigby,

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Deputy Political Editor of the Financial Times, and John Kampfner,

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Director of the Creative Industries Federation. Tomorrow's front pages,

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starting with: The Guardian leads with the story that the Home

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Secretary has announced two inquiries into historic child abuse.

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Related to the same story, The Daily Mail's front page claims the Home

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Office gave money to groups linked to paedophiles. The Times calls the

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inquiries the biggest ever inquiry into sex abuse. While the Mirror

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highlights the fact that neither inquiry will be led by a judge.

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Their headline asks what have you got to hide? The Daily Telegraph

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leads with the airport security story. Their headline: 'You won't

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fly if your phone is flat.' The Daily Express hails what they

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describe as a major breakthrough in the fight against Alzheimer's, with

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a simple blood test. Mum`of`four Wendy Bush tells the Sun how their

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breast cancer awareness scheme has saved her life. And the Financial

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Times reports that the European Central Bank is under pressure to

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take action against a persistently strong Euro. We will have a look at

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the Times. Referring to the Home Secretary's announcements regarding

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child sex abuse. There will be the biggest ever enquiry into child sex

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abuse according to the Times. Yes, with sweeping... There are to make

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enquiries, at the main, generic one, will be sweeping. It is interesting

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how ministers and the government generally have suggested over the

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weekend that they would be more limited. But they would be less

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independent, and would just look at the general popular agitation for

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it, and this morning, Monday morning's papers were very adamant

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that it needed to be stronger. They tightened it all up. But it is...

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No, it will be, both sets of enquiries, and other ongoing

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specific enquiries, it will absolutely open up a can of worms.

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It will expose obviously the detail to come. But this culture of

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indulgence towards what we might call depravity in the 1970s and

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1980s, albeit technically illegal, but at the same time pretty much

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blind eyes were turned. And very much at the heart of the

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establishment. One has the impression that that will be the

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general atmosphere around the conclusions. As, it is interesting,

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talking about what triggered the government's seeming change of heart

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about an all`encompassing enquiry. We had to make people on the Andrew

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Marr Show yesterday. We were told that there may well have been a

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cover`up to protect the establishment, and Michael Gove said

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that he didn't see any need for an that he didn't see any need for an

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enquiry. It seems that the papers, and certainly the media, seems to

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have jumped on to the opinions of Mr Tebbutt more than Mr Gove. And

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picking up what you are saying, you saw the wind changing this morning

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when we heard that they will do what they need to do. This will not be

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some quick look at the Home Office issue about missing documents about

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allegations of paedophilia and child abuse. They will actually do a

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proper... It is the sense that perhaps there are some people in

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society protecting the rich and the powerful. Yes, well the

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disappearance of the documents. Doesn't this remind you of, I was

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thinking, this reminds me a little bit of what happened to the Catholic

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Church when they had that epiphany of, we can't keep covering up child

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abuse, and abuse of children and abuse of boys. We need to actually

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clean up our act before we can as an institution move on. And I think

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going back to this idea of the establishment covering up, you had

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that BBC documentary whereby the border skew, a senior Web the

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government in the 70s, told a documentary of a systematic

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cover`up. `` Fortescue. He said it might be debt, it might be a scandal

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involving small boys, any kind of scandal, they would help if they

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could and store it up as Brownie points. Now, I don't think if the

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government had tried to sit on this, it wouldn't have stuck all stock I

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think, as you have said, there has been a big... People want disclosure

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and they want transparency. The political class has been denigrated

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anyway since the Spencer scandal. And any attempt to cover up any kind

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of scandal will not wash. They are doing the right thing by getting it

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all out in the open. There is no self`interest for politicians to

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cover this up, because we are talking by and large one assumes

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about historical issues. And there may still be some who are around,

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but we are talking about a generation or two earlier. And just

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one post script thought on this, is Theresa May, last time you were on

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the papers, we were talking about how well she had read the public

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mood over the police. This time again, it is quite interesting, I

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don't know at what point she either initiated or agreed to the broad,

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sweeping nature of these enquiries. But again, I can't imagine that

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Michael Gove would have gone on a Sunday morning talk show yesterday,

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and said, without... They have been bounced. Exactly. Michael Gove is

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the voice piece of David Cameron and George Osborne. They will have

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calibrated what they wanted to say on this, and will have had it

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agreed. And everyone wheeled out for media appearances over the weekend

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would have had a very clear line. They have obviously changed

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position, and I think they were right to do it. I don't think you

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can sweep this under the carpet. But the Daily Mirror suggests it is

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being swept under the carpet. Furious government launches

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enquiries but neither will be led by a judge. Yes, I mean, we were

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retching our heads when we were looking at this `` we were

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scratching our heads when we were looking at this, that the more

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narrow enquiry is going to be led by the chief executive of the NSPCC.

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You would think he would... He will be assisted via top legal brain as

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well. So unless we have our FAQ is wrong, the more generic one will be

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announced later anyway. `` facts wrong. I think there is a political

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element. Or is it Right? When we find out the nature of who is

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leading the main one, I suppose, that will determine what will

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happen. Theresa May, when she stood up to announce this broad, National

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enquiry into all institutions, no holds barred, you know what I mean.

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Something about wrestling. She was unable to name the scope of the

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enquiry or the chair. It shows how quickly they have come around to

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this thinking. I don't think this is about trying to hide things. I think

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this is actually two separate enquiries that they are now, whether

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they did it reluctantly or not, once it starts, it will be out of their

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control and will happen. As with Leveson. Exactly. Berlin puts allies

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back into the cold. They are fed up with being spied upon by their

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so`called allies in the US and UK. This story is about the Germans

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being really fed up that they have found out that a German spy was

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being a double agent for the US. And it comes on the back of another

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diplomatic spat between these two countries, when it emerged, was it

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in the Snowden revelations? That Angela Merkel's phone calls have

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been capped by the US security services, leading to a diplomatic

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row. `` tapped. She is obviously really unhappy about it, describing

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the scandal of the double agent spy as a serious development. And we

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picked up this great quote where the German security spokesman said that

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they must focus more strongly on their so`called allies. I.e. ,

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France, the US... With friends like these... As someone once said. It is

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lifted the lid on what a lot of Americans seem to be getting up to.

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The Germans seem to have been particularly hit on. Angela

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Merkel's personal mobile phone! One works with the assumption that that

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they either tried to or succeeded in listening to everyone. It is

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probably a sort of virility test. If you won't listen to, then you didn't

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matter. They were listening to my telephone. As we were saying

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earlier, there is a much greater anxiety, and I think legitimate

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anxiety, in continental Europe about privacy and about the storing of

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data by authorities. But also for the Germans. I mean, they are not a

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military force. So it is like, why... These are sort of issues of

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national security, the Germans aren't... Barrow very staunch NATO

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ally. Exactly. But they are also a very well`established powerhouse. Is

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a commercial, and then that, particularly offends their freedom.

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Staying with the Telegraph. You won't fly if your phone is flat. I

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will be in trouble because my phone is always flat. You will never be

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able to find the phone charging stations at the airport now. The

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bottomline is that if you can't switch your phone on power it up you

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won't be able to get on the flight. So it is not just your phone being

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taken away, you won't be able to flight. `` to fly. We were recalling

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that after 7/7, the ninth anniversary of which was today, the

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security that followed also did involve making sure that your

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electronic items were powered up, so this isn't entirely new. But there

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is an element of back to the future about this. It goes back to what you

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said earlier about the sophistication with which those who

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would do harm on flights, in terms of can you hide a device in your

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body, or in your phone? You are saying maybe it is only a matter of

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time before we have full body scanners. My view is that to force

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everyone to go through this, when clearly 99.9% of people that fly

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would be of no interest to the security forces at all, seemed a

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little bit over the top. But that is only because I always get caught out

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with my make`up in my handbag and my phone not charged. All right. We are

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running out of time. We will talk about Doctor but they sell like

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hotcakes but readers find them in digestible. A brief history of Time

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by Stephen Hawking. I think... Controversial here, basically, I

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read The Goldfinch, it was a wonderful book. When you go on

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holiday, do you really want to sit there with a weighty academic tome?

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With Capital, for instance. It is the sort of book you have to have so

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that you can quote. I don't know as well. The reason I was going a bit

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controversial was that I write that there is a division between the

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sexes, that men will more typically take a non`fiction book, and women

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will take... Chick lit? Are you suggesting that I would only take

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Das Capital? Just that men are more likely to read non`fiction books.

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But women are more likely to read. Book sales are skewed towards women.

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Women are brainier. The moral of the story is just to take a good novel,

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isn't it? And leave the brain growth... 50 Shades? I read some of

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it. You read some of it? Which bits did you read? I read some of it but

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I didn't find it very interesting, to be honest. You didn't find it

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very interesting? I preferred The Goldfinch. You ditched it for

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Capital, didn't you? You prefer your real`life to 50 Shades. Thank you

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for joining me to look at the stories behind the headlines, and

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interesting revelations. Always good to learn a little bit. Stay with us

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here on BBC News. Much more at the top of the hour about those two

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enquiries into child abuse. But coming up next, it's time for World

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Cup Sportsday.

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