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place in Gaza tonight as Israel launched a major ground offensive | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
against Palestinian militants. It follows nine days of air strikes by | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
Israel, which they insist are necessary to halt rocket attacks by | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
Hamas militants. More than 200 Palestinians and one Israeli have | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
died since this latest conflict began. | :00:10. | :00:14. | |
Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing | :00:15. | :00:23. | |
us tomorrow. With me here in London is Oliver Wright, the Whitehall | :00:24. | :00:26. | |
Editor of The Independent and in our Glasgow studio, Kevin McKenna, | :00:27. | :00:30. | |
Scottish Columnist for The Observer. Tomorrow's front pages are dominated | :00:31. | :00:38. | |
by the plane crash in Ukraine. The Independent shows burnt out | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
fuselage on the ground and describes bodies scattered over fields. | :00:42. | :00:46. | |
A rescuer is pictured amid the wreckage on the front of the Metro. | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
The Telegraph says that wreckage was strewn over an area nine miles wide. | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
A pro`Russian militant is shown standing over the scene in The | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
Times. It reports 154 Dutch people and six Britons are among the dead. | :00:59. | :01:04. | |
"Murder in the Sky" is the headline on the Guardian. | :01:05. | :01:11. | |
The Mirror describes "Slaughter at 33,000 Feet". | :01:12. | :01:14. | |
There's a stark message on the front of the Mail: there'll be hell to pay | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
if it emerges Russia is involved. And finally 'Putin's missile' is | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
behind the disaster according to the Sun, blaming pro`Russian | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
separatists. There are many different strands to the stories. | :01:29. | :01:44. | |
Let's look at the Independent. Pro` Russian rebels are suspected of the | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
attack. There are a lot of pictures to choose from. It gives you a sense | :01:49. | :01:56. | |
of how or promote this part of Ukraine was, which will make | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
it tricky to investigate. I think the Independent can be proud of its | :02:02. | :02:11. | |
story. It is a very dramatic picture. There is a separatist | :02:12. | :02:15. | |
investigating the wreckage. I am being told that the Malaysians | :02:16. | :02:29. | |
will take quite a long time to get to the crash site. There are reports | :02:30. | :02:35. | |
that Ukrainian government forces are finding it difficult to get to the | :02:36. | :02:39. | |
crash site because it is being groomed over by the separatists. `` | :02:40. | :02:48. | |
combed. There is an inference that if they locate the black box, it | :02:49. | :02:55. | |
will go straight to Moscow. Then the narrative will start to be dictated | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
by the Russians and President Putin. There are a lot of | :03:01. | :03:13. | |
nationalities involved. We have the story about slaughter at 33,000 feet | :03:14. | :03:25. | |
in The Mirror. We have most of the people on board are from the | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
Netherlands. It is an international tragedy. The front page is grimly | :03:30. | :03:39. | |
compelling. The wreckage is still smouldering. There are a lot of | :03:40. | :03:45. | |
images on the Internet that are far worse. You need to pick one that can | :03:46. | :03:59. | |
convey the gravity of the situation, without showing all the awfulness. | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
It is a difficult place to investigate. There were reports from | :04:05. | :04:12. | |
the United States with Joe Biden saying that American satellites, | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
which have been monitoring that part of the world carefully before this | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
happened, had picked up evidence of a surface to air missiles. It | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
probably won't take them long to identify where that came from. | :04:28. | :04:34. | |
Whether they can get people on the ground to find out where that | :04:35. | :04:36. | |
missile launcher is now will be difficult. Let's look at the Sun. | :04:37. | :04:50. | |
They talk about whether the separatists had the weaponry to | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
bring an ally no down at 30,000 feet. `` an airliner down. No one is | :04:57. | :05:09. | |
admitting the blame at the moment. There are claims and counterclaims. | :05:10. | :05:16. | |
The Sun is doing what it does best. There is no equivocation. They are | :05:17. | :05:23. | |
making a lot of the fact of the altitude of the plane was such that | :05:24. | :05:31. | |
only a serious piece of military hardware could have brought it down. | :05:32. | :05:42. | |
They then pointed straight out Putin. That is just like them. They | :05:43. | :05:52. | |
don't sit on the fence. The Daily Mail is looking at the darker | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
consequences. They say that this has very serious implications for the | :05:57. | :06:04. | |
geopolitical situation. Ukraine 's President Petro Poroshenko quoted on | :06:05. | :06:13. | |
Reuters that this was a terrorist attack that is a challenge to the | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
whole world. There were so many people on board, it took off from | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
the Netherlands, it inevitably draws in other countries. Of course it | :06:24. | :06:32. | |
does. This is a very serious problem for Putin. It implicates Russian | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
involvement will stop I think it is too early to say it came from | :06:38. | :06:43. | |
Russian troops. It could have been a missile that was once controlled by | :06:44. | :06:46. | |
the Ukraine that was then seized by the rebels. It is a very complicated | :06:47. | :06:54. | |
situation. A simplistic headline might sell newspapers, but it | :06:55. | :07:00. | |
doesn't always get to the truth. Putin has supported the pro` Russian | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
Ukrainian rebels. It is a very popular course in Russia. `` cause. | :07:07. | :07:18. | |
This is not just about Ukraine now. There are a whole number of | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
nationalities. This is a game changer. That has been said a lot. | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
What will happen? Will there be sanctions? There was evidence over | :07:31. | :07:39. | |
the last few weeks that from the outset of this crisis, Putin had | :07:40. | :07:46. | |
begun to move back and visa restrictions and trade sanctions | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
were beginning to bite and serious negotiations were beginning to | :07:51. | :07:57. | |
occur. Putin must've been taken greatly by surprise by this. He will | :07:58. | :08:04. | |
have immediately gathered his senior ministers. He will not need to be | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
told the implications of this. He will have a short time to come up | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
with a narrative to distance himself. Very few people will | :08:14. | :08:19. | |
believe it. It also poses a dilemma for America. The President is | :08:20. | :08:27. | |
halfway through a second term. He could conceivably say this as | :08:28. | :08:35. | |
someone else 's problem. `` is. In two years, he won't be seeking | :08:36. | :08:44. | |
offers. `` office. But then he could also take action because he won't be | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
around for the consequences. President Obama has had a | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
conversation with Secretary of State John Kerry and his security team | :08:54. | :08:59. | |
about what is happening. We imagine there are Americans on board. It is | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
curious that we had a press conference area and most of the | :09:05. | :09:10. | |
nationalities were announced. By far the largest number of nationalities | :09:11. | :09:22. | |
was from the Netherlands. There are about 60 unaccounted for | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
nationalities on the plane. I wonder if quite a few were Americans and | :09:27. | :09:32. | |
the summer reason, the Americans have asked details to be revealed so | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
that the the authorities can get a clear idea of what happened. If | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
there were a large number of Americans, that would put a lot of | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
pressure on the White House. They would want to know what is happening | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
before they are put under domestic pressure. John McCain said there | :09:50. | :09:59. | |
would be hell to pay. That is very much shooting from the hip. It makes | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
you grateful that he didn't win in 2008. While we are hearing about the | :10:04. | :10:13. | |
nationalities, 295 people died. For Malaysia, this is the second time | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
one of their planes has gone down. There was criticism of the way that | :10:20. | :10:25. | |
relatives were not kept informed when MH 370 went down. The | :10:26. | :10:32. | |
government will want to do everything they can to keep families | :10:33. | :10:39. | |
in the loop. In the passing of time since the downing of the first | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
Malaysian airline, the government, you could have sympathy for them. | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
Since then, nothing of any detail has emerged about the reasons it has | :10:52. | :10:59. | |
come down. One of the more horrific things I have been told earlier was | :11:00. | :11:07. | |
that the first witnesses on the scene in the Ukraine were beginning | :11:08. | :11:13. | |
to take pictures on their iPhones and posting the pitches to Twitter. | :11:14. | :11:24. | |
`` pictures. Some of the images were of passports that were fully intact. | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
You must think that some of the relatives would have been the images | :11:30. | :11:38. | |
inadvertently. That takes the implications of horror even further. | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
It is they 21st`century way of finding out news. Let's move away | :11:44. | :11:53. | |
from the horror. We will go to the Times. It is about the Israel | :11:54. | :12:02. | |
offensive against Gaza. 18,000 reserve soldiers have been called up | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
overnight to try to get Hamas to stop firing rockets into Israel. If | :12:07. | :12:15. | |
it wasn't for the flight, this story would be all over the front pages. | :12:16. | :12:23. | |
It has been pushed inside. The editors will have had their work cut | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
out for them. These are both important stories. I think this will | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
carry on for several days. We don't know what Israel has planned. The | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
operation may be more extensive than we thought and could go on for | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
several days. You think it may have been planned for a while, but I do | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
wonder about the exact timing. I wonder whether it was a cool | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
incidents that while the eyes of the world are facing on the Ukraine, | :12:55. | :12:57. | |
Israel are doing what they were going to do anyway. The timing may | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
be something other than call incidental. There is a sense that it | :13:03. | :13:10. | |
is an escalation when it moves from artillery fire and missiles being | :13:11. | :13:12. | |
sent in overhead to something at ground level. Attention ground | :13:13. | :13:24. | |
troops going in. `` potentially. The figure of 18,000 going in is | :13:25. | :13:31. | |
important because it is 10% of the population of Gaza. This latest | :13:32. | :13:37. | |
escalation centres on the fact, Israel said, that Hamas have been | :13:38. | :13:47. | |
extremely angry and desperate about border restrictions imposed by | :13:48. | :13:56. | |
Egypt. This has led to even further economic difficulties and hardship | :13:57. | :13:59. | |
for the citizens of Gaza. Hamas itself has been unable to pay any of | :14:00. | :14:07. | |
its employees recently. They also have a stark and poignant image of | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
three of the children who were killed on a beach yesterday. Three | :14:12. | :14:18. | |
of them were running away before they were killed by the Israeli 's. | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
The explanation was that they killed the first child in a mistake. They | :14:24. | :14:31. | |
were aiming for rape military police nearby. The children they thought | :14:32. | :14:35. | |
were running away they thought were Hamas militants. We must stop | :14:36. | :14:43. | |
talking about it here and move on to the Herald. | :14:44. | :14:54. | |
A matter of weeks until the Scottish referendum for independence. The yes | :14:55. | :15:05. | |
campaign is getting some traction. Yes, they are leading on a pole | :15:06. | :15:12. | |
which says that 28% of Labour voters now intend to vote yes on September | :15:13. | :15:20. | |
the 18th and that is up in one month by 7%. The deputy leader of the SNP | :15:21. | :15:32. | |
and the deputy first minister was actively wooing Labour voters when | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
she challenged them to reclaim the party and this is obviously having | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
some kind of affect. As part of a story that I was researching, I was | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
out with some volunteers who were going to vote yes in a very working | :15:49. | :15:55. | |
class area and the message coming from the doorsteps in this very big | :15:56. | :16:03. | |
area for Labour was almost blanket support in favour. If this poll is | :16:04. | :16:12. | |
to be believed, Gordon Brown has been epicenter of the pro` union | :16:13. | :16:15. | |
campaign and this will be uncomfortable reading for him `` at | :16:16. | :16:26. | |
the centre. This referendum will be won by those who don't know what | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
they want yet. It has got into such that it is easier for people to say | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
that they support the yes campaign and it is for them to say that they | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
support the no campaign and they say that when they go and talk to | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
people, people who say they don't know are actually not in favour of | :16:45. | :16:47. | |
independence and don't feel that they can say it. Clearly, we are | :16:48. | :16:53. | |
only a couple of months now and this will cause quite a lot of | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
consternation. They could surprise us all on the day when they enter | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
the ballot box and leave their mark. They could be confused. The | :17:04. | :17:14. | |
other thing that conflict takes this `` complicates this is estimating | :17:15. | :17:23. | |
privately anything between 80 or 90% of voters are undecided and if that | :17:24. | :17:29. | |
transpires, it will break all records on European democracy for | :17:30. | :17:36. | |
the percentage of turnout. I take the point that has been made about | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
people finding it easier to say yes but on the other hand, the pattern | :17:42. | :17:46. | |
of newspaper coverage in Scotland on the referendum campaign, probably | :17:47. | :17:54. | |
nine out of ten newspapers in Scotland have by varying degrees | :17:55. | :17:56. | |
supported the no campaign and this poll, as well as talking about the | :17:57. | :18:02. | |
heavy support amongst Weber Mac supporters for yes `` Labour, have | :18:03. | :18:10. | |
put it at 45% which is the highest it has been. Nine weeks before | :18:11. | :18:18. | |
September the 18th, that puts the yes campaign in a position that can | :18:19. | :18:24. | |
be a springboard for victory. That is where we must leave it for | :18:25. | :18:46. | |
tonight. Thank you to my guests. We are going to retain to the | :18:47. | :18:47. |