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with ease to take her first gold at a major championship. We will also


cover Gareth Bale's return to Cardiff. That is all after the


papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead


to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are Sam Coates,


Deputy Political Editor at the Times and Randeep Ramesh, Social Affairs


Editor at the Guardian. Thank you for coming back.


Tomorrow's front pages. Starting with the Guardian. Forgive me, I am


getting ahead of myself. A quick look through at the front pages will


be showing us. An exclusive from the Independent ` the paper says that


TEN different inquiries have been launched into Greater Manchester


Police over its handling of rape and sexual abuse cases.


This story in the FT, pictures of a Russian aid convoy. That image


dominates the front of the paper. While a warning from Colonel Tim


Collins is The Telegraph's front page splash. The retired military


officer says Britain is failing its moral obligation to intervene. A


photo of the late Robin Williams found dead in an apparent suicide at


his home on Monday dominates the front of The Daily Star.


He was found dead after an apparent suicide at his home.


The Metro also has him on the front of the paper. The agony of his final


hours have been revealed. Robin Williams is also on the front of the


Express. The paper also has an update on its campaign to try and


end hospital car park charges. Robin Williams is also on the front of the


Scotsman. It also has a warning ` from the United Nations ` that


action is needed to avoid genocide in Iraq. While Guardian leads with


news that we've been covering on BBC News this evening that Britain is


intensifying its involvement in northern Iraq.


That is where we will begin our review. Thank you for staying with


us tonight. Starting with the Guardian. Britain boosts its role in


combating militants. The question is how far it will go. As we discussed


earlier, David Cameron has been criticised. Conservative MPs and the


Prime Minister. The government has been slowly increasing the


pressure, partly as a response to the public, partly because it


understands what happened in Syria, which became a big mess. There is a


number of problems they face. But the decisive response is probably


the greatest. The question is, we are sending in more military


material. We have been told that Britain has been sending aid and


weapons to the Kurds. At what point does the pressure becomes


irresistible for Parliament? It is interesting, we are moving towards


military involvement. Ferrying military material from one country


to another is a big step. It almost suggests you recall Parliament as an


endpoint. You recall Parliament when you have a plan. The government does


not know what option they want to go for at the moment. From purely a


humanitarian effort all the way through to a full on assault to try


and push back and even defeat ISIS. I do not think the government will


risk another Syria experience. That brings us to the story that has your


byline on the front of the Times. But it feels threatened by


terrorists. What is that about? `` Britain. In short, it is a different


place to where the public were on Syria. A year ago, only one in four


members of the public supported bombing Syria. Now we are looking at


something and little more even ski `` keel. We took another poll today.


It has gone up to 40%. An interesting margin of error. What


has underlined, it is a bit more neck and neck. Why is there a


difference between Iraq and Syria? There is a difference between the


feeling. 80% feel threatened because of Islamic militant behaviour. There


is that worried the activities in Iraq may spill over. You do not see


that in Syria. You have also got a clear enemy in ISIS. The other


difference is, there are questions under threat. That has been a


feature. That has been picked up by backbench MPs. And since the famous


truck on in February, we have had the drumbeat of Islamic extremism


coming into British public life. That has changed. Things all play


into this atmosphere that we are under threat. It is definitely


there. There is the idea that maybe there is a shift moving towards


intervention. There is an opinion piece by the former Conservative


defence secretary Liam Fox. He says, public opinion is split on


military intervention. But this is an occasion where we need to lead


public opinion, not follow it. He has never been a dove. It goes back


to that question, is there a plan, and if there is a plan, we need to


be leading public opinion. You cannot just say, OK, now we will do


something. The government was suggesting bombing, but they were


not able to explain what would happen. This is the same question


that needs to be answered. We may bond ISIS a bit. `` attack. How do


we contain this problem? Do we set ourselves more realistic goals that


the public can support? Nobody wants the sense of entering a conflict


without end. Moving on to the FT. We talked a little bit about this and


hour ago. What do you make of this Russian convoy? It is quite a


striking image. Is what is inside the trucks that is the question.


This is a sign of Putin being a clever operative. He senses the


western attention is in the Middle East. He has objectives that he


wishes to achieve. Not least, aiding the separatists, the Russian


speaking minority that he wants to succeed. Or at least give them some


kind of autonomy from the Ukraine. He is testing the country's


resolve. I think the Russians are playing this quite cleverly. This is


an interesting contrast between the intervention, the action being taken


by countries like Britain under the label of humanitarian assistance and


President Putin using the same language in Ukraine. A lot of


Russian analysts have said it is a question of when, not if he goes


into eastern Ukraine. You need a screen split three ways. Gaza,


Ukraine and Iraq. That makes it difficult for the international


community. EU foreign affairs councils have never been easy going.


Looking at different opinions on everything from Russian sanctions to


the position in Gaza and how you deal with Iraq. It is very hard to


see how you get a common position. And the United Nations summit coming


up in September. A lot of these positions will have to be thrashed


out. Let us talk a little bit about Robin Williams. It is almost exactly


24 hours since the news came through of his death. The Scotsman has what


looks like a recent photograph of him. A mischievous or beatific


expression on his face. A what the papers are putting it in their late


additions. They still think this is a story that has some life in it.


The way they cover it is interesting. I wonder what to think


of how people have been trained to a tribute explanations. Is there a


test issue? `` trying. `` attribute. People need an instant reaction. It


is difficult when somebody takes their own life to start describing


the cause of the death to all these things. These are things which are


delicate at the best of times. There has been a lot of stuff on Twitter.


People think this is in poor taste. Trying to find out what happened


clashes with questions of tone. The Times has not put Robin Williams


onto the front page. We have chosen to look into the issues on page


three. Some papers seem to be trying to out do, words like Porgera used


quite freely. `` torture. Is it in some people's minds that he would


pick up on the sensation? That is not how we approached it. That is


the accusation that is being bandied about. What can papers do about


this? They can change what they have on their websites, but there is


nothing we can do about the paper. There was a tender story when I


worked in the West Country when a local paper had the headline, Arthur


C Clarke dead. He was a local boy. It turns out it was the wrong Arthur


C Clarke. Because it was a weekly paper, it was on the stands for a


week. This is a bit more serious. There is a difference between


factual errors, and you can correct those. And there is the clear


editorial judgement. One of the problems we have to deal with,


particularly when something like this happens in America. The


American public authorities act in a different way to British ones. They


spew out personal details almost immediately. TV viewers often find


out the gruesome details. It is almost a question for you guys.


These people are very much secondary to disseminating that. That is where


the American reveal all culture clashes and little bit. There is a


difference between the physical details of someone's last hours and


getting into somebody's mind and describing that is the cause of


death. That is the problem. Suicide is a different thing. There is an


effort under way to try and remind the media about some of the


guidelines they get people to signup to in like this. There is a fear of


venerating an extremely tragic event. Ending on a happy note, if we


can. A happy event that may be coming our way. I think I have heard


this before. The UK's first baby panda is on the way. The word may be


is featuring a bit too prominently. It is a race between the pandas and


the whale couple, as far as I can tell. `` royal couple.


The birth of a panda or the birth of a new nation. I think my money is on


the panda. I suppose naming the panda cub will be the next step. I


wanted about maybe Alex. Maybe we could have a public poll. On that


happy note, thank you both for being with us. That is it from the papers.


Stay with us. At midnight, a report from northern Iraq, where tens of


thousands of refugees walked from the mountain range to flee from


Islamic militants. Coming up, Sportsday.


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Britain on day one of the European Athletics Championships, as


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