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transfers in Sportsday in 15 minutes after the Papers.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing

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us tomorrow. With me is the broadcaster Lynn Faulds Wood and the

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president of YouGov, Peter Kellner. Tomorrow's front pages.

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Many papers lead with the apparent murder of the American journalist

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Steven Sotloff by Islamic State. Many papers lead with the apparent

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murder of the American The Metro reports the militant's threat to

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kill a British hostage next. The Daily Express calls it a

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chilling new threat. The Daily Mail carries comments from

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the Prime Minister who said the video is disgusting and despicable.

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The Guardian notes the British accent of the jihadi on the footage

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is the same as in the killing of James Foley.

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The Independent pictures Steven Sotloff before his abduction last

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year. As does the Scotsman, which also

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features the criminal charges being dropped for Ashya's parents.

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Another story leads the Financial Times. It says the prospect of a

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close vote on Scottish independence is sending jitters through the City.

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We must start with the story of Steven Sotloff, apparently a second

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American journalist murdered in a video posted on the intranet. It is

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interesting how the papers have decided to feature the story with

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their cover photographs of `` Internat. The independent has a

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photo of Mr Scott lost `` Independent `` Steven Sotloff. The

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picture ranges from this nice photo to some horrible photos. It is

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interesting to see the editorial decisions behind this. The Scotsman

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shows him as the journalist, the man, and well done the Independent

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for choosing to tell a horrible story in this way because some

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images were so graphic you think they would appeal to the nasty side

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of human nature. It plays into the recruiting element that this video

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is fair to achieve. `` there to achieve. Most people don't go

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looking at 6`8 papers so closely. I find it numbing. The horrible ones

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or so horrible, they leave you gasping for understanding. In an odd

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way, the front page of the Independent and the Scotsman is in

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some ways more powerful because you see not a victim but a human being.

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And, the life that has been lost. Not only have the Independent taken

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a sensitive view, but actually, the front page I think has more in

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packed than some of the more ostensibly gruesome images. I hope

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so. These are a horrible people that are doing this, we know that, who

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are asking the families for a enormous ransoms to spare the lives

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of their children and they aren't these idealistic people who want

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this Islamic State, they are thugs and we feed into their thuggery if

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we show them brandishing knives and we give them the oxygen in

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publicity. Let's bring up the Guardian front page if we can. The

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BBC News channel has decided they won't show anything from the video

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itself. Nothing more than a picture of Mr Sotloff himself. This is the

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front page of the Guardian. Why do you think the Telegraph has used a

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more graphic picture? I don't know. Maybe it sells papers. I don't want

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to buy a paper with a man wielding a knife. I feel I am helping to...

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There are hard judgements to make because we have both been

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journalists for a number of years and I don't think on this situation

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that editors and news editors take the decision which will send the

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paper flying off the shelves tomorrow morning. They might on

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other occasions but this time I think they are making... They are

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wrestling with a difficult judgement as it were to get the full truth,

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which is the horror and the knife, or finding another way to tell the

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story that is less brutal and perhaps if you take the view of the

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Independent, they don't want to play into the hands of the Islamist

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agenda. I don't think there is a clear right or wrong I just refer

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the Independent's approach. I am not sure the Telegraph are doing it to

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sell copies. I think they have the view that I disagree with. It is a

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powerful and legitimate front page. I think the jihadis use these videos

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for recruitment. One paper has studied them carefully and think

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these people have been killed on the same day at around the same time

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because all of the backgrounds are the same, the filming is the same,

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the editing is the same. It is quite likely that the British hostage is

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also now dead and there are another 20 hostages there that... Western

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hostages. The Times mentions about the British hostage who isn't being

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named by British media at the request of family but has been

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identified by the international press. As far as I can tell, they

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named him in tomorrow's papers, the name is out there, it is no secret.

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This is a judgement of taste, decency and respect for the family

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as much as anything. There is the question of the photos, the naming,

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and anyone who says there is an absolute right or wrong way to do

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this and some papers have it right and others don't, I am jolly glad I

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am not having to decide the front page the night. Any suggestion of

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other hostages being killed is speculation, we don't know. It does

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look quite possible. Working in TV, if something looks the same in every

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shot, it is likely it was done at the same time. The front page of the

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Guardian, again, Spanish judge frees Ashya King's parents from jail after

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a U`turn from prosecutors. This is an extraordinary saga. We reported

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minutes ago with the hospital bringing out a statement. The story

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isn't over. I have a feeling there are a feeling there are labourers to

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the story that we don't know. What we do know is that the Crown

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Prosecution Service went for the parents and they have now pulled

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back. We also know that David Cameron and Nick Clegg and the

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Guardian leans into this, say they shouldn't be prosecuted. In terms of

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the substance, my sympathies are with David Cameron and Nick Clegg,

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in terms of process, it worries me. I don't think politicians should

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tangle themselves with legal decisions even if the politicians

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are right and their lawyers are wrong. This is slippery slope

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territory. Although I am glad the case has been pulled back, and I

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support the sentiment expressed by the Prime Minister and his deputy, I

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feel queasy about the way... (CROSSTALK) there has been criticism

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of the hospital involved in Southampton. Bafflement. We don't

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know what went on. Not understanding. Not until you read it

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out. The hospital has released a statement making it clear it was

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concerned for the well`being of this five`year`old for a number of

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reasons, for instance, because a power cable for the nasal gastric

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tube used to feed the five`year`old had been left behind. It can work on

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a battery but only occasionally. The child still seems to be OK. Yes, but

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if you are a hospital trust, will you take that chance? This is the

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dilemma. They have known this for four or five days. It happened last

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Thursday, was it? Why haven't we known any of this before now. Why

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did they issue an arrest warrant, a terribly heavy pool to use to get

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this family back. `` tool. Let's invert that. I don't know if we know

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the truth. Supposing the hospital said, we disagree, but they are the

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parents and supposing heavens above, he died, will we not be saying, why

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were you so laid`back? I am not saying laid`back. Don't take a

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sledgehammer. You and I have been through enough stories to know that

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this kind of thing was probably a lot more to come out on both sides

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and I am not going to... I don't want to rush to judgement. They now

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say they are appealing for a second appealing `` opinion. There is no

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right or wrong necessarily. They often have five options. With this

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family... I have seen the data for Europe and Britain isn't great with

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cancer. We have seen stories in the press about that. These parents

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thought they could go elsewhere for a second opinion and better

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treatment. The impression from the statement is that they were in the

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middle of this discussion as to what the next course of treatment should

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be and it seems according to the hospital that the conversation came

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to an end. Why doesn't everybody stop talking about it? You parents

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have suffered four or five days in prison, they have been handcuffed,

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their trial has been without parents for several days, why do they stop

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until the parents return to Britain, kept them together with

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hospital and have someone sort out the truth. At the moment, we are

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speculating. At the heart of it is a little boy. This information is

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difficult to put in the public domain. Patient confidentiality. The

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hospital felt it was backed into a corner and had to put this stuff out

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there. It seems to be explaining the reasoning behind their actions. They

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could have put some out. I think there have been mistakes made all

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round and what the... The way they have resolved those mistakes was

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heavy`handed. Let's move on to the Financial Times. Scots vote, fears

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rattle City. I am sitting here, you are sitting there, we are looking at

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this man, a man who can wipe billions of stock markets. With the

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flick of a finger. I teased him about that earlier because I am

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Scottish. But, I didn't mean it. Billions probably have been wiped.

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It is the fact that the YouGov poll yesterday came out and suggested

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that this rate is very tight indeed and YouGov has been Conservative

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with the small seat in its predictions with the vote. Your

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pollsters have changed things a little bit. The Scottish people have

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changed it. We genuinely simply report what is happening. Since we

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got figures yesterday morning, I have been speaking with people on

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the ground, people with their ear to the ground who know what is going on

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and everyone says, yes, on the ground, they can tell it is

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tightening. They can see that in working`class areas, traditional

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Labour voters, as the poll suggests, have been switching in large numbers

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from No to Yes. Alex Salmond has broken through on the issue of being

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run by Tory London, dangers to the NHS, real or fantasy, that argument

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is beginning to get... And, winning voters as well. To a small extent.

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There is still a big gender gap. Until one month ago, men were

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divided evenly between Yes and No, women were two to one on Yes to

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know. It is now on balance. There is still a quite wide gender gap. If

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you tie it back to the first story in Syria and Iraq, there is a gender

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gap. Well you have a risky option, sending weapons into Iraq or

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Scottish independence, men tend to be more in favour. Where it is

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cautious, security, we aren't sure about this... Sensible women tend to

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be on that side of the argument. It was happening with Afghanistan and

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Libya. You are a Scot, explain why you think it is time. I left

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Scotland and awfully long time ago. If you ask what I am, the first

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thing I say is Scottish. Scottish people are very proud of being

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Scottish. You get English people... This article in the Financial Times

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has some quotes in it that will make the Scots go and vote Yes. You can't

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tell the Scots what to do especially if you are English and especially if

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it sounds like you are patronising. This is it because a lot of British

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people are looking at the debate and thinking, all of this stuff about

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not having the sterling, not being part of the union, the economy going

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down the tube, the North Sea oil running out, all the economic stuff

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is trumped by the heart. Is that what you are saying? I was speaking

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with an oil man on Sunday who said there was lots of oil and there is

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lots of gas in the North Sea, I love the Scottish line that we have to

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keep our oil, we needed for our trips. The Scots can take the

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proverbial apple themselves. They are basically the proverbial out of

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themselves. We have three polls between now and polling day and I

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think there is now a battle between momentum, which is clearly with

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Yes, and something that often happens in referendums around the

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world, at the last minute, people draw back from change, looking over

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the cliff edge, they think, I am not so sure about jumping off. I don't

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know which of those impulses is going to win the day. There is a

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rocky ride in the polls, possibly their financial markets, have a lot

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of turbulence over the next few weeks. It started with the Scots

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saying they thought they wouldn't get a fair deal. If they did some

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horse trading, some earlier horse trading, it is too late now. They

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would probably have said that it would do nicely. It has gone too

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far. Put that on the table. That is one side of the debate. Probably

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wasn't generous enough. It has been great having you in to look at the

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stories behind the headlines. Many thanks. Stay with us on BBC News.

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More at the top of the hour on the release of the video by Islamic

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State militants claiming to show the killing of an American journalist

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Steven Sotloff. Now, it is time for Sportsday.

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Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm Nina Warhurst. Given a wildcard for

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his Ryder Cup debut ` Stephen Gallacher makes the European team,

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but four`time winner Luke Donald will miss

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