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Mercedes F1 team, and we will find out if St Helens sealed the league

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leaders' shield when they play against Warrington tonight. That is

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all in 15 minutes. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are the

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broadcaster and journalist Henry Bonsu and the former minister for

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trade and investment Lord Digby Jones. Another familiar face. Good

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evening. This is how the front pages look. The Telegraph says that the UK

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is getting ready for war with Islamic State militants and that

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Cameron could launch air strikes in Iraq and Syria within weeks.

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The Guardian says the Prime Minister has pleaded with other world leaders

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not to give in to Islamic State's demands for ransoms.The Metro leads

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on the killing of an 82`year`old woman in Edmonton.

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The Mirror has a photo of the 82`year`old woman decapitated. The

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Express describes how illegal immigrants tried to storm ferries

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bound for Britain last night. The paper claims our border security is

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a shambles. The Mail has the same story. It says riot squads were sent

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into Calais after UK`bound migrants turned the port into a warzone.

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The FT says the president of the European Central Bank has caused

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jitters in the markets yesterday after cutting eurozone interest

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rates to a record low. The Scotsman has a photo of Joan Rivers, who died

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earlier today. Starting with the Guardian. Unlike other papers it is

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focusing more on the Prime Minister's protest over ransoms

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being paid for hostages, as well as looking at other things. He is very

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upset with other world leaders. He didn't mention France, Spain and

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Italy but it is widely believed that they have paid to get their people

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out of Iraq, Syria and other trouble spots. David Cameron is basically

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saying this is counter`productive. There is a quote. He says, what

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matters is not your signature on a declaration, world leaders need to

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agree they did not pay ransoms. He says not letting money be paid to

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terrorists, because that money goes into more kidnaps. He draws a very

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tough line. He admits it's a tough line, which could put people in

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greater danger, if they are being held now, but it is in the long run

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it's better for all of us. A lot of people would be surprised that

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ransoms would ever be paid. A lot of people would believe that line, we

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don't negotiate with terrorists. I think Britain and America don't.

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Margaret Thatcher, in 87, 88 or 89, do you remember in Beirut these guys

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were kidnapped? There were others. For that reason they remained

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kidnapped for a long time. And a couple were killed. She stood firm

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on this. This isn't new. This has gone on for years and European

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governments have paid out of ransoms when America and Britain happened.

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Somalia, with all the piracy and ships, that his ransom. It's right

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that he is doing something about it and using the current crisis to talk

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about it but please don't think this is new, this has gone on for 30

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years. Terrorism has been funded by kidnap ransoms for a long time.

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Interesting the penny has dropped with people who are taking people

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hostage. But there is an alternative purpose behind taking an American or

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Brit hostage. Global property. It tomorrow morning Ashman local

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publicity. If not a single terrorist act was put on the news tomorrow,

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maybe there wouldn't be terrorists. `` it is global public city. What

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they would love is for America and Britain to be drawn into this and

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The talk of war as well. A lot of get boots on the ground.

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talk about war. In fact pulling talk about war. In fact pulling

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troops out of. But Barack Obama is getting a lot of heat from

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Republicans and some Democrats, including Hillary Clinton. She will

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go for the presidency in a couple of years. For appearing to be on the

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back foot. People say Islamic State and Putin seemed to be taking the

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upperhand and David Cameron is trying to step in. He says he thinks

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we need to do more. We are prepared to go alongside the US, even though

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the US has asked for Britain to join in. You do have a war weary

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democratic capitalist. They have all come out of this enormous financial

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crisis. We have had in Iraq and Afghanistan being so debilitating on

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our national psyche. If you are Australia, France, Denmark, Holland,

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written, America, it has sapped the national will. And when you look at

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those countries, are they in a better position? For a

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democratically elected leader to go to the people and say, now is the

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time to come back on the front foot, it's a big start. The Times

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takes another angle. I found this amazing. Let us come home, say young

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British jihadists. A lot of people want to see more being done on the

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home front. This is astonishing. Extremely. Of course we have become

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used to hearing British voices in those horrific beheading videos and

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we hear that the British contingent among the jihadis of IS are

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overrepresented. But, according to the Times, there are a significant

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amount of British jihadis, about 20 `50, who want to come home. They are

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fighting fellow rebel groups and they have said this to study, but

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they say they are frightened of law and sentences. If this is true, it

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is interesting and new. I find this surprising. I saw one paragraph, and

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I allowed an ironic smile? `` am I. If they died fighting the rebels, or

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jihadist groups, they might not qualify for martyrdom and its

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benefits in paradise. I think getting public sympathy for that

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case will be difficult. But it shows a degree of brainwashing. But

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sympathy will be hard to get. North Sea franking will earn 300 Ilium

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pounds for Scotland. `` fracking. If you are Alex Salmond and Cameron

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says, "let's frack", for some reason it is awful. If he wants to do it

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for the benefit of Scotland its OK. It is called politics. In war, truth

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is the first casualty, right? Well, there is a war going on for the

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hearts and minds of the Scottish people. The truth is going straight

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through the floor. Interestingly, this report claims North Sea

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fracking could earn ?300 billion for Scotland. That's been produced by a

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business group. You should be supporting this. You are business.

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So every business group is right, is it? All wrong. `` or wrong? Get that

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chip off your shoulder! Every chip is on your shoulder. I Adam Peaty

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Manchester City in the premiership at the moment! `` am beating. It's a

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big concern. How an independent Scotland funds itself. This is a

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battle of minds and pockets. In the last few days, it isn't a matter of

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minds any more, this is all about heart. This is all about Braveheart

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playing the wallet. This is about the heart. For the last few days, it

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is... Isn't it about both? I would like to think so. I would like to

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think that people of Scotland will decide on the economic ability to

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pay for the Scotland they want. I think they will vote with their

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hard. In the end, when in the privacy of the voting booth, they

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will be thinking about who they are as a Scot, who are as a bridge, and

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where they see the country going. You don't think they will be

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thinking about taxing and funding? We are sitting here in London as

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Norman Scots but we don't have a vote. `` non`Scots. They are

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breaking up our country without letting us having a say in the

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matter. But at the end of the day it is arrogant for us to say, this is

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what they are going to do. They will vote with their hearts. Moving on.

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The Daily Mail. Calais is besieged by gangs of migrants. Obviously

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reporting of the huge number of men who try to get onboard vessels

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heading for Dover. Riot squads were sent in. We are talking about 250 or

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so people. They are giving this the full treatment on the front page.

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This is because a significant amount of network desperate. Some of them

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take weeks and months to get across, to go to Dover, going through

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several different EU states. They say, go through, go to Britain. The

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last stage is Calais. The mayor has accused Britain of being a soft

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touch and has asked David Cameron to say Britain isn't all milk and

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honey, the streets paved with gold. Interestingly, I don't think we have

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seen this, Wezzoo many people get sick of waiting and they stormed

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through. `` where so many people. I did that, I did the path of the way

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through Greece, France. By the time they get to France, they are very

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wary. They tell border guards they want to get to Britain. In my

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experience they were given deportation cards, which essentially

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moves them onto the next country. As long as they go towards Britain.

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Something The Daily Mail has been reporting on for a while is a review

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of the tyre asylum seeking system. So instead of telling David Cameron

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to get his cheque`book out, why doesn't Calais ask Italy or Turkey

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why they moved them on? Isn't who knows? That's the EU. And we should

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look at the sheer numbers of people crossing the borders. The UN has

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only just looked at this, the huge number of people crossing Europe.

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Moving on to the Scotsman. It has a wonderful picture of Joan Rivers,

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who of course died last night. The headline, and acid tongue silence. I

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wonder what she would make of that? She would probably think it was

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rather good and see it as a cop lament. `` continent. Social media

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has been going off since then. She reportedly said something about the

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Palestinians in Gaza deserve to die for not getting out of the way, and

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people were very angry about that. When she fell into a coma, people

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said it is karma. But people said not to be so cruel because her life

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is so much more than these horrible comments. I thought it was

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interesting way different papers looked at this. There was one

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headline who called the Queen of comedy. That was in the Express.

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Queen of bad taste in The Daily Mail. Acid tongue in the Scotsman.

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It is interesting. Was she the Queen of comedy? For a long time she was.

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She paved the way for so many comics. In some common `` quarters

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that makes you popular. She got a star on the walk of Fame about 30

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years ago. She has been around a very long time. `` Walk of Fame. She

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did make history. But there are many people who will be coming to her

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fresh in recent weeks and months and would be morning in the same way. I

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found her very funny at times. She was brilliant with 1`liners but she

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could be very hot tempered. Would you have bought a ticket to see

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her? No, not my kind of thing. I would. I remember her having an

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awful argument that people were shocked and silenced because she was

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apparently uncomfortable with the term black. She thought he was

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calling her a racist and she was very angry and swore at him. Perhaps

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she was a nice person, I didn't see that side of her. I saw the acid

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tongue comedian and the blowouts on air. There are many people who will

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be saying, there you go. We had two comedians inspired by her in the

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studio earlier. They said one of the reasons why she got away with such

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controversial 1`liners is because she also delivered 1`liners about

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herself. I saw that. When it was about the journey through grief can

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be lessened and prepared for by humour, that was clear when she used

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typical Jewish humour. Sometimes when you are a Jewish

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Because people think you have suffered. You are bullet`proof and

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you can say what you like. And she had an ability to take it out on

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herself. Which people admire. Would Did I find her funny? I did at

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times. `` probably not. And she wasn't trying to be funny, her

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comment about the Palestinians. was her opinion. Given what we

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thought we knew about the story, that seemed to be going too far. It

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would be death, like she did. In 2010 she

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He could I told you wasn't feeling recognise

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He could I told you wasn't feeling very well, absolutely marvellous.

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Thank you for joining us to discuss the papers. And it ended with a

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laugh. Joan Rivers would have liked it. Thank you for watching.

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