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Plus how Rosberg and Hamilton got on in today's practice sessions for the

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Italian Grand Prix, all in Sportsday in 15 minutes, after The Papers.

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Wellcome to our look at what the newspapers will bring us tomorrow.

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With me is James Miller of the Sunday Post, and joining us from

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Glasgow is Jean Freeman from Women for Independence. Thank you for

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being with us tonight. Let's look at the front pages of the morning

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papers. The Daily Mail leads the story claiming some of our biggest

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banks have been intimidating customers. NATO leaders gaze at a

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fly past on the cover of the Independent on the day they set up a

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rapid reaction force to defy Russia over Ukraine. The FT has the same

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picture but talks about a new bid by the no camp to halt the charge of

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nationalists in the Scottish referendum. The Daily Telegraph says

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Britain could become involved in a three`year battle with Islamist

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militants. Five yet `` five old Ashya King dominates the front page

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of the Guardian. He is going to Prague. The express says there is

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outrage at claims that police are dropping rate prosecutions. The

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Times carries a picture of the American president at Stonehenge

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following the NATO summit in Newport.

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Let's begin with the Telegraph. The headline, three`year battle to

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degrade and destroy ISIL, the Islamic State, the militants who

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have been cutting a swathe across Syria and Iraq, Britain signs up to

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coalition led by the United States, and the Prime Minister of verses a

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plan to mothball an aircraft carrier. When you read into this

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article, Jean, it feels like we have been here before, very reminiscent

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of the Iraq war. It does. I found it quite disturbing an article to read

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because we have a number of assertions and statements and no

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clear plan, certainly in the article, no clear acknowledgement

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that there needs to be some kind of democratic process behind this. So

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we have the commitment to 1000 troops, the idea of the rapid

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reaction force, but we do not have much of an idea, so far at least,

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about exactly what that force would do. The article also tells us that

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not every member of NATO is as convinced of this as the UK and the

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US are, and again, that does have a close of having been here before.

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And indeed Germany and particular is somewhat reticent. They are.

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Reticent, and also reticent in terms of whether the principal target, if

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you like, is the Islamic State, or whether in the view of Germany, we

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shouldn't be more concerned about what is going on in Afghanistan and

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Ukraine. Certainly it struck me in the past week that we have not had a

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lot of attention to what was going on in Ukraine, and I wondered if

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that was the wise course to take, to be so focused on what is happening

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outside Europe, knowing what might be happening here. Let me turn to

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James. Often there is talk of a mandate, having a mandate to take

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action of this type. How is this mandate in comparison with the one

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they thought they had against Saddam Hussein? There is an element of

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having been here before, certainly, I was particularly struck by the

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three`year battle, this sounds like it will be over by Christmas, the

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three`year figure is picked out of nowhere, but it is different to

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Iraq, because these guys are baddies... You know, we know they

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are doing horrific things, beheadings, they have a British

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hostage. In Iraq they had to come up with a dossier and the evidence, the

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evidence that these guys need to be dealt with is very clear, and in

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that sense I think there is a moribund mandate, more of a public

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feel that something must be done. `` more of a mandate. In the Telegraph,

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Ashya King, the five`year`old boy who needs brain tumour treatment

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being given permission to fly to Prague. It has been an extraordinary

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week for the family, pursued across Europe, then having the arrest

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warrant dropped. A lot of people still don't really know what this

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story is all about, what happened, why they were chased across Europe,

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what they were doing in Spain when they were trying to get to Prague.

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It sounds like we were going to have a happy ending in the sense that

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hopefully now they will be left to do what they were going to do in the

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first place and get on with it and maybe be left alone by the media to

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deal with at their own way. Briefly, Jean, do police have much choice

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over whether to pursue the family in this way, given that doctors in

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Britain were concerned for his health? It depends a little on what

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information the police were given, and that is still not clear. If the

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police were told that the medical profession in the hospital believed

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the child was at risk in terms of how the parents might be able to

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look after him or not, I don't know if that was the case, but if they

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had been told something like that and hadn't done anything, we would

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be criticising them as well. The whole thing is a bit of a sad mess,

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I think. I suspect that in a sense, at the end of the day, everyone has

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acted in what they believe were the best interests of the child, but the

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consequences of that have been a tragic set of circumstances, and

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hugely distressing for the family, but also for the kids of that

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family, including the little boy himself. The Daily Mail, shaming of

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bodily banks, intimidating customers with fake debt collection letters,

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bosses confess. This is a campaign they have been mounting after they

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claimed thousands of letters had been sent, which were apparently

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rather intimidating, to customers. Now it seems the bosses admitted

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using these tactics. They have, yes. There has been so much news going on

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with Ukraine, Iraq and Scotland, it has been lost today. This has not

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been missed by the Daily Mail, which is good, because it is outrageous.

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If your front`page story is supposed to be dropped your toast stuff at

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breakfast, this would mind me `` want to make me smash up the

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kitchen. These banks, their customers, they are looking after

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people 's money, and they were making up names of solicitors to

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send them scary letters. It is the will drink how they thought they

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could get away with it. Is your crockery safe when you read a

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headline like that, Jean? Just about, but the interesting thing

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was, if I pretended to be debt collecting firm or a law firm and I

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sent you that kind of letter, I would expect the police at my door,

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and what I find extraordinary in all of this is that after everything we

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have been through with the banks, they still think they are perfectly

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legitimate in behaving in this way, and the article points out, they

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have not really apologise. The thing I was surprised that was that the

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Student Loan Company is part and parcel of this. I don't know what we

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need to do for people to understand that behaving in this way is immoral

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and totally unacceptable. Let's move on to the Independent, coalition

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rocked by bedroom tax revolt, a quandary here with this one because

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we have to call it the spare room subsidy as well to not cause

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partiality, but this was the vote not by a backbench Lib Dem MP,

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Andrew George, to try to CBN is of this tax, which has proved to be

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very damaging `` see the end of this tax `` damaging for people deemed to

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have an extra bedroom they don't need. It has indeed, very damaging

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in terms of the impact it can have in moving families away from the

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rest of their family and their community and so on. For example, in

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some parts of Scotland, there simply are not houses with only one

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bedroom. Here in Scotland, The Scottish Government has acted to

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mitigate the effects of the bedroom tax, but the thing that struck me

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about this story was that you can spot a 2015 general election coming,

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I think. I don't mean to be dismissive of the backbencher who

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brought it forward, I am sure he is genuine, but we have that coalition

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emerging between Labour and the Liberal Democrats, and the Liberal

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Democrats suddenly very much opposed to the bedroom tax, but they were

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part of the government that introduced it. You pulled a bit of a

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face, James. There is a Scottish angle to this because the SNP MPs,

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most of them, didn't turn up for the vote, despite all this talk about

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vote for independence to get rid of the bedroom tax. That is a decision

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they took. They obviously thought time would be better is spent

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campaigning for a yes vote and they might rewrite, but from a PR point

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of view it has given Labour big win because they are to say, our MPs

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turned up and voted. The FT has come up trumps with a story about the

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Scottish referendum, which is fantastic, as Jean is with us from

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Glasgow. Union camp in push to halt yester, David Cameron warning Scots

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they will be more vulnerable in a dangerous and insecure world of they

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vote for independence, as No campaigners try to stop the swell of

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support for Yes. Gordon Brown also saying there might be an option of

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greater devolution of powers to Scotland, James, if the No voters

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successful. I'm not much or how we can offer a guarantee now. The FT

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have been on the independence referendum from the start. Like a

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lot of papers who are just waking up to it as it gets tight and closer,

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I'm not sure there is a huge amount exciting in this story per se. But,

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it is the big issue now. Despite the other stuff in the papers this is

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the big issue affecting the country. It seems the momentum is with yes at

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the moment. We'll know that for sure when we see some pulse at the

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weekend. They say there is panic in the no camp. `` polls. What will

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work best at this point? Stand in the other people 's shoes for a

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moment. More carrot or more stick, to get people to vote no? Certainly

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not more stick or more scary stories about possible stick. People here

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don't believe it. Even in the early days when it was said a few months

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ago there wouldn't be a currency union. Even before there was paper

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coverage of a government insider who said of course there would be. Even

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before then the polls showed people in Scotland didn't believe it. What

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is happening here, and it is interesting, there is not a lot in

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this story, but it is interesting inasmuch as not particularly the

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Financial Times because we've also covered the referendum consistently

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throughout, but there is certainly a mood of, oh my goodness, it is

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coming very soon. From the no camp, it looks like we might lose. It does

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look like we might lose. I'm not sure what they can do. They've left

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it a bit late. They are trying to scare people into voting no. They've

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tried to tell us how much they love us so please don't vote no. Now we

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have guarantees that frankly can never be honoured. And the offer of

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additional powers that contrast sharply with the fact that it was

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not allowed on the ballot paper because of the stance of the

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Unionist parties. Just because people don't believe it doesn't mean

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it is not true. I think that it's worth pointing out on all of these

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charges. But there has certainly been a lot of scaremongering. But it

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doesn't mean it is not true. Lots of shoe warning tonight. We will try to

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do it even more slickly later. `` shoehorning. Stay with us will stop

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there will be more on the truce in Ukraine which came into effect

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today. Coming up next, sports stay. `` sports

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Hello and welcome to Sportsday ` I'm Nina Warhurst.

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