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Wellcome to our look at what the newspapers will bring us tomorrow.


With me is James Miller of the Sunday Post, and joining us from


Glasgow is Jean Freeman from Women for Independence. Thank you for


being with us tonight. Let's look at the front pages of the morning


papers. The Daily Mail leads the story claiming some of our biggest


banks have been intimidating customers. NATO leaders gaze at a


fly past on the cover of the Independent on the day they set up a


rapid reaction force to defy Russia over Ukraine. The FT has the same


picture but talks about a new bid by the no camp to halt the charge of


nationalists in the Scottish referendum. The Daily Telegraph says


Britain could become involved in a three`year battle with Islamist


militants. Five yet `` five old Ashya King dominates the front page


of the Guardian. He is going to Prague. The express says there is


outrage at claims that police are dropping rate prosecutions. The


Times carries a picture of the American president at Stonehenge


following the NATO summit in Newport.


Let's begin with the Telegraph. The headline, three`year battle to


degrade and destroy ISIL, the Islamic State, the militants who


have been cutting a swathe across Syria and Iraq, Britain signs up to


coalition led by the United States, and the Prime Minister of verses a


plan to mothball an aircraft carrier. When you read into this


article, Jean, it feels like we have been here before, very reminiscent


of the Iraq war. It does. I found it quite disturbing an article to read


because we have a number of assertions and statements and no


clear plan, certainly in the article, no clear acknowledgement


that there needs to be some kind of democratic process behind this. So


we have the commitment to 1000 troops, the idea of the rapid


reaction force, but we do not have much of an idea, so far at least,


about exactly what that force would do. The article also tells us that


not every member of NATO is as convinced of this as the UK and the


US are, and again, that does have a close of having been here before.


And indeed Germany and particular is somewhat reticent. They are.


Reticent, and also reticent in terms of whether the principal target, if


you like, is the Islamic State, or whether in the view of Germany, we


shouldn't be more concerned about what is going on in Afghanistan and


Ukraine. Certainly it struck me in the past week that we have not had a


lot of attention to what was going on in Ukraine, and I wondered if


that was the wise course to take, to be so focused on what is happening


outside Europe, knowing what might be happening here. Let me turn to


James. Often there is talk of a mandate, having a mandate to take


action of this type. How is this mandate in comparison with the one


they thought they had against Saddam Hussein? There is an element of


having been here before, certainly, I was particularly struck by the


three`year battle, this sounds like it will be over by Christmas, the


three`year figure is picked out of nowhere, but it is different to


Iraq, because these guys are baddies... You know, we know they


are doing horrific things, beheadings, they have a British


hostage. In Iraq they had to come up with a dossier and the evidence, the


evidence that these guys need to be dealt with is very clear, and in


that sense I think there is a moribund mandate, more of a public


feel that something must be done. `` more of a mandate. In the Telegraph,


Ashya King, the five`year`old boy who needs brain tumour treatment


being given permission to fly to Prague. It has been an extraordinary


week for the family, pursued across Europe, then having the arrest


warrant dropped. A lot of people still don't really know what this


story is all about, what happened, why they were chased across Europe,


what they were doing in Spain when they were trying to get to Prague.


It sounds like we were going to have a happy ending in the sense that


hopefully now they will be left to do what they were going to do in the


first place and get on with it and maybe be left alone by the media to


deal with at their own way. Briefly, Jean, do police have much choice


over whether to pursue the family in this way, given that doctors in


Britain were concerned for his health? It depends a little on what


information the police were given, and that is still not clear. If the


police were told that the medical profession in the hospital believed


the child was at risk in terms of how the parents might be able to


look after him or not, I don't know if that was the case, but if they


had been told something like that and hadn't done anything, we would


be criticising them as well. The whole thing is a bit of a sad mess,


I think. I suspect that in a sense, at the end of the day, everyone has


acted in what they believe were the best interests of the child, but the


consequences of that have been a tragic set of circumstances, and


hugely distressing for the family, but also for the kids of that


family, including the little boy himself. The Daily Mail, shaming of


bodily banks, intimidating customers with fake debt collection letters,


bosses confess. This is a campaign they have been mounting after they


claimed thousands of letters had been sent, which were apparently


rather intimidating, to customers. Now it seems the bosses admitted


using these tactics. They have, yes. There has been so much news going on


with Ukraine, Iraq and Scotland, it has been lost today. This has not


been missed by the Daily Mail, which is good, because it is outrageous.


If your front`page story is supposed to be dropped your toast stuff at


breakfast, this would mind me `` want to make me smash up the


kitchen. These banks, their customers, they are looking after


people 's money, and they were making up names of solicitors to


send them scary letters. It is the will drink how they thought they


could get away with it. Is your crockery safe when you read a


headline like that, Jean? Just about, but the interesting thing


was, if I pretended to be debt collecting firm or a law firm and I


sent you that kind of letter, I would expect the police at my door,


and what I find extraordinary in all of this is that after everything we


have been through with the banks, they still think they are perfectly


legitimate in behaving in this way, and the article points out, they


have not really apologise. The thing I was surprised that was that the


Student Loan Company is part and parcel of this. I don't know what we


need to do for people to understand that behaving in this way is immoral


and totally unacceptable. Let's move on to the Independent, coalition


rocked by bedroom tax revolt, a quandary here with this one because


we have to call it the spare room subsidy as well to not cause


partiality, but this was the vote not by a backbench Lib Dem MP,


Andrew George, to try to CBN is of this tax, which has proved to be


very damaging `` see the end of this tax `` damaging for people deemed to


have an extra bedroom they don't need. It has indeed, very damaging


in terms of the impact it can have in moving families away from the


rest of their family and their community and so on. For example, in


some parts of Scotland, there simply are not houses with only one


bedroom. Here in Scotland, The Scottish Government has acted to


mitigate the effects of the bedroom tax, but the thing that struck me


about this story was that you can spot a 2015 general election coming,


I think. I don't mean to be dismissive of the backbencher who


brought it forward, I am sure he is genuine, but we have that coalition


emerging between Labour and the Liberal Democrats, and the Liberal


Democrats suddenly very much opposed to the bedroom tax, but they were


part of the government that introduced it. You pulled a bit of a


face, James. There is a Scottish angle to this because the SNP MPs,


most of them, didn't turn up for the vote, despite all this talk about


vote for independence to get rid of the bedroom tax. That is a decision


they took. They obviously thought time would be better is spent


campaigning for a yes vote and they might rewrite, but from a PR point


of view it has given Labour big win because they are to say, our MPs


turned up and voted. The FT has come up trumps with a story about the


Scottish referendum, which is fantastic, as Jean is with us from


Glasgow. Union camp in push to halt yester, David Cameron warning Scots


they will be more vulnerable in a dangerous and insecure world of they


vote for independence, as No campaigners try to stop the swell of


support for Yes. Gordon Brown also saying there might be an option of


greater devolution of powers to Scotland, James, if the No voters


successful. I'm not much or how we can offer a guarantee now. The FT


have been on the independence referendum from the start. Like a


lot of papers who are just waking up to it as it gets tight and closer,


I'm not sure there is a huge amount exciting in this story per se. But,


it is the big issue now. Despite the other stuff in the papers this is


the big issue affecting the country. It seems the momentum is with yes at


the moment. We'll know that for sure when we see some pulse at the


weekend. They say there is panic in the no camp. `` polls. What will


work best at this point? Stand in the other people 's shoes for a


moment. More carrot or more stick, to get people to vote no? Certainly


not more stick or more scary stories about possible stick. People here


don't believe it. Even in the early days when it was said a few months


ago there wouldn't be a currency union. Even before there was paper


coverage of a government insider who said of course there would be. Even


before then the polls showed people in Scotland didn't believe it. What


is happening here, and it is interesting, there is not a lot in


this story, but it is interesting inasmuch as not particularly the


Financial Times because we've also covered the referendum consistently


throughout, but there is certainly a mood of, oh my goodness, it is


coming very soon. From the no camp, it looks like we might lose. It does


look like we might lose. I'm not sure what they can do. They've left


it a bit late. They are trying to scare people into voting no. They've


tried to tell us how much they love us so please don't vote no. Now we


have guarantees that frankly can never be honoured. And the offer of


additional powers that contrast sharply with the fact that it was


not allowed on the ballot paper because of the stance of the


Unionist parties. Just because people don't believe it doesn't mean


it is not true. I think that it's worth pointing out on all of these


charges. But there has certainly been a lot of scaremongering. But it


doesn't mean it is not true. Lots of shoe warning tonight. We will try to


do it even more slickly later. `` shoehorning. Stay with us will stop


there will be more on the truce in Ukraine which came into effect


today. Coming up next, sports stay. `` sports


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