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game in the rugby premiership season. And, we covered the Italian

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Grand Prix. James Millar of the Sunday Post is

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with us, and... I thought that was going to appear miraculously

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quickly. How would it lets you down! Jane Freeman from the women

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for independence campaign. I'm glad you haven't left, Jean. Let's have a

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look at the front pages. The Daily Mail leads with a story claiming

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some of our biggest banks have been intimidating their customers. Nato

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leaders gaze at a fly past on the front of the Independent, the

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Financial Times has the same picture, but talks about the

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Scottish referendum. The Daily Telegraph says that Britain could

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become involved in a three`year battle with Islamist militants.

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Five`year`old Ashya King dominates the front page of the Guardian. He

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is now heading to Prague for treatment, but some British doctors

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are critical of the technique is to receive. The Daily Express says

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there is outrage at claims that police are dropping prosecutions.

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The Times carries a picture of the US president on his trip to

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Stonehenge. And, Scotsman leads with a headline that Nato is casting

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doubt over possible Scottish membership of the alliance because

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SNP defence spending plans for short of expectations. We will begin with

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the Times, and its take on this pledge by the west to smash ISIS,

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now really known as Islamic State `` West. Britain has signed up to this

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coalition led by the US. That is even if the campaign lasts for three

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years. We are edging closer and closer to military intervention.

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Yes. The three years figure is intriguing, differs according to the

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PM, we are signed up. Then what? Do we give up after three years? It

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smacks a little bit of, it will all be over by Christmas. We went into

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Iraq and Afghanistan, that wasn't going to take long either. There

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needs to be a commitment of us to do something, because we have been

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hearing things coming out of the Islamic State that are clearly

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awful, and people would like to see something done about it. That

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something might be airstrikes, might be drones, but the reluctance is

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always that phrase, boots on the ground, isn't it? Yes, it is. What

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is interesting about this story is how more clearly the combative tone

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of the language is emerging. Until now, there has been some talk, but

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the time seems to have changed, and yet we are still not clear what the

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timetable might be, or what the plan is. I know that it says, and the UK

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PM and the US President are quoted as saying that we will strike out

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against IS and we will smash them, but it is not clear to me what the

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plan is. As James says, what happens if after three years it is not

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sorted? One of the great criticisms on Iraq was that there was no exit

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plan. I think this begs more questions really than it answers,

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albeit that there might have been a growing feeling that a number of

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things were happening in the world, and what was Nato doing about it,

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what was the point of Nato? But at this point, just being combative in

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your language, and I'm noticing one or two things, I really don't think

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that will satisfy people. The other thing that strikes me, is that I'm

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not sure that the public is quite as alert to what is happening, and

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quite as anxious about it as the political leaders are. That does not

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mean that the public are right, and the leaders are wrong. I just think

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a bit of catch`up needs to go on, which is similar to where we were on

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Iraq. Let's move on to the Scotsman. They say that the SNP plans fall

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short on defence spending. I don't know if you have seen this in its

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entirety. It is another warning from another body that no doubt Scotland

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would want to be part of, isn't it ? It is interesting, the vote in under

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two weeks is about whether or not Scotland becomes independent. The

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SNP would hope they were, wouldn't they? I'm sure they would, and I'm

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sure the planned figure for spending on defence is exactly the same as

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Denmark's, and Nato don't seem to have a problem there. I think what

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may have happened here, and it would be a huge surprise, is that somebody

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in Nato has said, I'm not sure that is enough money, and that has said

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there might not get in. The former Ambassador to Nato has said that she

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sees no problem, and Scotland would be welcome. We are going around this

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circle again, like we did on Europe and the currency, but actually, this

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Nato story doesn't stack up. If you step back and look at it coolly. On

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social media, David Henry has answered the call for comments on

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Twitter. He says Scotland will have its own Defence Force based in

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Scotland, new coastal ships, and more jobs will be created building

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them. It is good that he knows. It is all very well saying this is

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conflating SNP policy with Scotland and independence, but that is what

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happens in the white paper. The white paper produced by the SNP

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Scottish government includes plans for defence spending, which would be

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up to the first government. The SNP are keen to conflate the two when it

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suits them. I disagree, James. The problem is that none of the other

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political parties have said what they will do in Scotland becomes

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independent. They are standing on the other side of the wall, except

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they are now getting worried that they might lose the vote. The SNP is

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actually the only political party at this point that has foot poured ``

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put forward some of the ideas of what Scotland could and should be

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like. That would be the only offered to people of Scotland when we get to

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2016. So the white paper is a manifesto for 2016 is what you are

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saying? One part of it? So it conflates the two? It might conflate

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the two, but there is no reason that Nato should suddenly think that what

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Denmark spends is fine, or that what the SNP intend Scotland to spend is

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not find. I want to move on to the Scottish Daily Mail. SNP blasted

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because its MPs failed to turn up against the party's pet hate

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policy. This is something you alluded to in a previous review,

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James. This is a sign of the strange days we the Daily Mail is pressing

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Labour MPs on what many people would call a Conservative policy. The

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Daily Mail says the Nationalists have been condemned for stunning

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hypocrisy, which is excellent, coming from the Daily Mail. They

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don't like this policy, but they didn't turn up to vote. It is not

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for me to defend the four who weren't there, and I hope they have

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a good explanation for that for the people of Scotland. The people of

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Scotland, in common with other places in the UK, have been damaged

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and hurt by the bedroom tax, and condemn it utterly. Scotland does

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have an opportunity if we vote for independence, to create a welfare

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system that is closer to the green of what we might want. Generally

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speaking, I would find it inexcusable for MPs not to turn up

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and do their job. It is up to them to defend what they have done. On

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the Daily Telegraph, unemployed to get attitude tests. Interviews to

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assess whether they are resistant psychologically to work. I suppose

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on a bad day we all fall into that category, but this is another

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measure to try to work out why people haven't got a job. It is more

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than that. It is another measure that implies that the reason people

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haven't got a job is because their attitude is wrong. It might be

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because our economy produces pretty poor, low`wage jobs, and there

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aren't enough of them to go around, and that might be the result of an

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economic policy being pursued through Westminster. The other part

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of this is, who is doing this assessment? We have some terrible

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examples of this ability assessments that are frankly outrageous and very

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unfair on those who had to undergo them. I just find this very

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disturbing. Here we go again, let's blame people for the circumstance in

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which they find themselves when actually, some of that arises at its

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core from policies pursued by the UK government. No merit in these tests

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at all? Personally, no, in one sense it is outrageous. It is slightly

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Orwellian, the fact that you will be psychologically questioned and

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graded as determined, but will do, or despondent. I shouldn't laugh,

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I'm sorry, I couldn't hold that in. Let's move on to the FT. And,

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another Scottish referendum story. It's like they knew you were going

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to be here! The union camp have been pushed to halt yes charge. David

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Cameron warning again of more problems if Scotland votes for

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independence. There will be more vulnerable in a dangerous and

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insecure world. As they say, they describe it as panic in the no

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camp, and that is what I'm picking up as the polls have tightened. The

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no camp are more worried. He did in the middle of the story are two

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possible strategies. One is David Cameron saying we kept passionately

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about our family of nations. That is a positive spin on it. Followed by

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the, which says that if you leave, you will probably get blown up it is

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you won't be in Nato any more. They need to decide which one they are

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going to go forth, it could of sticking them together like that.

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The other story is Gordon Brown promising greater devolution.

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Someone who writes under the name that is a pro`independence tweeter,

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saying, does Gordon Brown control Ed Miliband? And he promised greater

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devolution at this stage? Causey can't. There is not a Scottish MP

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who can promise greater devolution, because people need to put it into

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their manifestoes, they need to be the party who then gets a late two

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Parliament, it needs to be prioritised in the legislative of

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RAM, and then they need to convince their backbenchers to vote for it.

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Given the comments of people like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage and

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others about how, when Scotland votes no in their expectation, I

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think they might be wrong about that... When Scotland votes no, that

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is it, we have given them enough, we don't need to do any more, I find it

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highly unlikely and disingenuous to say the least, of the former prime

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ministers to promise to guarantee anything. I wish I could `` I wish

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you could see James's face. Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson, neither of

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them are even in the House of Commons, and we don't know if they

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will be up to 25th in. How they could hold them up as having any

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kind of influence, I just don't understand. You know as well as I do

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the impact of what they are saying and what they represent on the Tory

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party, down south in particular. So, they don't need to be in

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Westminster to be hugely influential and for us to see how the Tory

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policies are shifting and moving and their backbenchers are anxious and

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upset, and David Cameron is under a lot of pressure. You don't have to

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be elected for that to happen. I know you want to chip in, but you

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can't! We had to end. James Millar and Jean Freeman, thank you for

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joining us. Coming up next, it is time for Sportsday.

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Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm Nina Warhurst. England will start

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their Euro 2016 campaign without Daniel Sturridge. A training injury

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has ruled the striker out of Monday's

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