07/09/2014 The Papers


07/09/2014

No need to wait until tomorrow morning to see what's in the papers - Martine Croxall presents a lively and informed conversation about the next day's headlines.


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will travel from Malaga Airport in a private plane for Prague. Detectives

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looking for missing schoolgirl Alice Gross arrest a second man on

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suspicion of murder. The 14`year`old was last seen on a canal towpath in

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Hanwell in West London ten days ago. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are the

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theologian and writer Vicky Beeching and Martin Bentham, home affairs

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editor of the Evening Standard. Tomorrow's front pages, now.

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Scotland's referendum dominates the front pages. The Telegraph warns

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there are ten days to save the Union. The Times says David Cameron

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and Ed Miliband will unite this week in a last`ditch attempt to stave off

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an independence vote. The Herald reports that a three`party timetable

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for more autonomy will be published to try and win over undecided

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voters. Don't let me be the last Queen of Scotland, says the Mirror,

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reporting that the monarch expressed her concern to the Prime Minister at

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Balmoral. The Mail says the Queen will still be in Scotland on

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September 18th, the day that Scots could decide to leave the Union. And

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on a different subject, the Guardian reports President Obama will

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announce a new game plan for tacking the Islamic State, saying it won't

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be another Gulf War. The Daily Telegraph is one of

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another papers using this similar headline, ten days to save the

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union. Cameron and Brown launch a last ditch effort to stave Scottish

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independence. It was mentioned earlier in the day that these

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measures which would have automatically have been offered to

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Scotland at some point. But this is devolution with a timetable. Yes. We

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have been hearing all along about devo max and this promise of devo

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max is. This morning, George Osborne said they would spell it all out. It

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seems in this story... Senior Conservatives have questioned why

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this announcement is being made now when hundreds of thousands of people

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have already cast their vote. It seems a bit late. And it is

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frustrating, sitting here, because he still cannot say exactly what it

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is which is going to be proposed. It is not convincing to have no details

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at this late stage, when postal votes have already been cast.

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Speculation a document could be published tomorrow. Someone is

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probably frantically typing it out now. This whole thing has been about

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devo max. It sounds like a boy band. Or a fizzy drink. It may have been

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planned but I think if it has been planned in this way, there will be

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recriminations flying around on the anti` independence site. People will

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say they have made a mess of this campaign. It has been a long time

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that the better together campaign has been lacklustre. And this

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illustrates that, really. This comes very late in the day. You have got

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to be specific. Why wait until you have shocking opinion polls? There

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seems to be panic that has set in at the realisation that this could

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actually happen. Everyone is suddenly worried. We were talking

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about that earlier. And people on Twitter have agreed. In Scotland,

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they say they are consumed by this. But in England, we are hundreds of

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miles away and ideological way a long way away, it would seem, as

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well. One of our correspondents said that it is a very broad coalition

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that is trying to say we should keep the Union together. That in itself

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is potentially problematic. The suggestion that parties are coming

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together to speak with one voice... One person on Twitter says, all the

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parties? I don't think so. The SNP, for example. I like how you are

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bringing in Twitter, by the way. This comes a conversation. There is

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a lot of talk on my timeline about this. Very passionate views. Very

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strongly held. And people very keen to let them know directly to us.

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Young people as well. There is a sense of frustration that not

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everybody understands the momentum that has grown around this. The

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effort that we will see over the next few days... Could it be

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counter`productive if they are trying to throw things out at this

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last page? Could it be enough to swing the undecided voters? They

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cannot sit on their hands and do nothing. And the Times is making the

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point that Labour in particular... Gordon Brown is going to make

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numerous visits and numerous campaigning messages during the next

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ten days. For Labour, this is very important, as well as it is for the

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Tories, but in different ways. Labour would lose 41 MPs in the

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national parliament in Scotland became independent. And one of the

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things that has been happening is that Labour support in the opinion

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polls, Labour supporters in general, apart from the older ones, are going

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over to the independence side. Clearly from the Labour Party point

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of view, they first had this potential impact if there is a

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remnant of the United Kingdom left, that they will be hugely

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disadvantaged in any future election, also, they have to fight

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to maintain some of their own supporters for saving the Union. If

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the Scottish people see this scramble and wonder... Maybe we

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really do have this moment to take our power back and we have really

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worried Westminster by this shift in the polls, it could in some

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instances look like a scramble, and it could add power to the Yes

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campaign. Parties unite in last`ditch bid to save the Union.

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One on social media says that there has never been any suggestion about

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devo max on any of the Unionist parties full of it has been

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mentioned but as part of... Not as part of the Better Together campaign

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until now, right? It has been talked about but it has been quite

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unspecific. Very vague. That is why people would say they have not heard

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about it. It was all about increased taxation raising powers, control of

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the benefits and so on, different welfare policies, for example, but

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spelling out exactly what those additional powers will be has not

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yet happened and that is where the problem lies. Now, it is too little

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too late, isn't it? It feels like it. That is what the Nationalists

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are saying, isn't it? The Mirror. Ten days to save the Union. Don't

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let me be the last Queen of Scotland. The Queen, outwardly,

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maintains a neutral stance. She does not express preference one way or

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another, but according to one source, she is apparently a

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unionist. And this is of great concern. Slightly lightheartedly, of

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course, one on Twitter suggests that descendants must be considered from

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the weather was the last monarch of Scotland. That person would have to

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be traced. `` from whoever was the last monarch of Scotland. Someone

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with an interest in genealogy can be shopping at a supermarket and get a

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tap on the shoulder. Someone in some corner of Scotland or even somewhere

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else in the world. But a constitutional issue that somebody

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somewhere will have to work out. She could remain the Queen of Scotland,

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of course. Clearly, there was an act of union that was originally a King

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of Scotland who became our king, and therefore the two grounds united 100

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years after that happened. `` two crowns. The other question is if the

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Scots became independent, if they would go to a republic. And that is

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what they are raising in this story. There are all sorts of issues there.

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Perhaps the most important ones are not relating to the future of the

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Microsoft but the future of the monarchy and so on, but the economic

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matters and the people in each country. Whichever way `` not

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relating to the future of the Queen herself or the future of the

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monarchy and so on, but economic matters and the people in each

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country. Whichever way it goes, the outcome will be fascinating. Many

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people have been treating it as a distant thing but with ten days to

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go and this shift in the opinion polls, it is quite exciting. And the

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ramifications down here with what happens, should this occur, there is

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talk that the pound could fall... Although, it has gone off in recent

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months, so it would just returned to its normal level. `` gone up.

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Ministers could resign, producing a crisis of leadership for David

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Cameron. Ed Miliband would have his own crisis of leadership. All of the

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leaders of different parties here would be seen as having somehow

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failed to prevent this cataclysmic change. Let's move away from the

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Scottish referendum if we can tear ourselves away. I have not been

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gripped until really this week. It would be great to be up there. It

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would be great to feel that momentum. Now, Obama to reveal ISIS

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strategy but pledges no Iraq War. This is a strategy we are expecting

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to hear on Wednesday. A strategy that Barack Obama has been rather

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slow in coming forward with. Rather like the story we have been talking

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about. Indeed. He admitted a week or so ago that he had no strategy for

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dealing with ISIS, ISIL, Islamic State, whatever you want to call it.

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He has announced that there will be won but he is emphatic that there

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will not be troops on the ground. I think that will probably work, air

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strikes, because there are already forces on the ground. The Iraqi

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army, the Kurdish fighters with American support. There is the

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possibility of using those with air support to drive back the Islamic

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State. It will not be easy and clearly, he hopes to set out exactly

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how he can do that. And he hopes to set out whether he has tangible

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support from some of the neighbouring countries. Tangible

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support, not just local support. That is the difference. The Arab

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League say they will make all the necessary efforts to get rid of

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Islamic State. And that seems to be critical, according to commentators,

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that it is not seen as a Western imposed effort led by the US. It is

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the common threat that everybody is scared by and everybody is

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disowning. It is so good to hear continually in this nation be Muslim

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leaders talking against this ideology is a real threat. Within my

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religious commentary work, I have heard people make snide comments

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about Islam and it is so not true. What they're doing is not in any way

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a representation of the Islamic faith and it is so good to see the

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leaders speaking out against doubt. But a warning from the military here

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that they must not overextend themselves. `` see the leaders are

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speaking out against that. But there is a warning from the military

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leaders here that we must not overextend ourselves. Yes. If we get

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involved, the have to be very clear what the objective is and if our

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troops get involved, we must be fully equipped. They were not fully

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equipped when they went into Iraq last time. There is time to think

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about this and we should do it properly if we are going to do

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something. That's it for The Papers this hour. Stay with us here on BBC

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News. We will be back tomorrow night. Coming up next, it's time for

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