08/09/2014 The Papers


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men's final at Flushing Meadows as well. We will find out how a spat


led to two riders being disqualified.


Our joy of baby number two. The words dominating the front page of


the Daily Express. The Independent asks the pioneering treatment the


five`year`old receives will ever make it to Britain. The Daily


Telegraph claims the Queen is being urged to speak out over Scotland.


The Guardian has Gordon Brown as the saviour of the union campaign. And


another royal baby headline. Very clever, the chaps at the Metro.


We will start with the Financial Times, though. This is your paper,


your take on what has happened. One poll! How can that be? Suddenly,


everyone has that Scotland could vote for


independence in ten days time and I think the markets and politicians in


Westminster, the polls had been wide, they did not appear to narrow


dramatically, so there was a sort of view that, this will not happen. And


suddenly, nervousness. Some of the retail barons are talking about


people moving deposits away from Scotland, so now,


to see the reality that if Scots do vote to leave the United Kingdom,


whether there would be a flight of capital away from Scotland. One


analyst says here, the issue will not keep Scotland in the pound, but


keep the pound in Scotland. These institutions will be tested. As you


said, it was all the financial institutions, such as The Royal Bank


of Scotland and Lloyds banking group, with big domiciles in


Scotland, that with the big losers today. The other point is what the


international implications are an investors are worried because of


Scotland votes for independence, what does that mean about Spain in


Catalonia? The markets are concerned about wider ramifications. This is


rubber hitting the road, isn't it? For 18 months`1 year, we have had a


discussion about the principles. What the poor has suggested is that


they could well decide to leave the union and as a result, we need


details. The markets have no details on exactly what this might mean. You


hit the no `` nail on something which is actually not correct. When


you say we, it depends who we is and where you are. Well, certainly in


Scotland. But in England, everybody been asleep. Including David


Cameron? There is nobody to vote in England, and nor should there be,


but the ramifications for the rest of the UK, for England plus or


whatever else it will be called, are enormous. And also, the


ramifications, it is not like... Say it is a No vote. They are already


scrambling to increase the powers for Scotland, devolution becomes


Devo Max. You could almost call independence light. You have still


got the flag, the Queen, but once you start giving considerably more


powers, which are still unclear, new pension powers, welfare powers,


powers to raise old change tax regimes, what does that mean for the


rest of British politics? What does it mean for the MPs sitting in


Scottish constituencies? There will be no reason to have them, apart


from the defence issue. Even if there is a No vote, the Constitution


of the UK changes dramatically. Let's go to the Guardian. Brown to


the rescue. It was Brown who was called, not Ed Miliband, not the


Eden`educated Prime Minister. It was a man who was out of power for a


number of years now who is seen as the saviour of the union. Ed


Miliband's 's problem in Scotland as he is deeply unpopular there and so


is David Cameron. The Tories are toxic and Scotland. There is no way


the Conservative Party can lead this fight and there are no plans, even


in these final stages, but to Scotland and Scotland and try and


make the case. Alistair Darling. It is not him? It looks like the Yes


campaign... Sorry, the No campaign is panicking and it has realised


they have not produced the goods. It is partly also a head and heart


thing. If you say no to anything, they are relentlessly negative


measures. It's like saying to your children, don't do this! There


hasn't been, which has been one of the major flaws in this campaign,


there has been no sort of compelling, romantic reason, no


passion. Watching Gordon Brown tonight, it's interesting, you


showed passion up there. Some of the other members of the No campaign


perhaps lacked it. There were stories knocking around. We did a


story on December about concerns within senior Tory circles about


Alistair Darling, was he the right guy to do this? He won the first


debate. When he won that first debate... It didn't really affect


the polls. But he won it on a very sort of technical discussion about


the fate of sterling which Alex Salmond got himself hooked on. If


you learn from your mistakes after one debate, you make sure it you do


it differently second time around, and as soon as he made sure that, he


wiped the floor against Alistair Darling against a much more


emotional basis which, after all, is the way the vast majority of voters


vote. The starting position was that the No campaign had a 45`50% polling


at the beginning, a year ago or something, and the Yes campaign was


kind of languishing around 20%. It was always going to narrow. As


Nicola Sturgeon said, we have momentum. They always started with a


big block that would get chiselled away. But the surprising thing has


been the way it is not chipping away, it is just collapsing. Getting


Gordon Brown... It is now, let's try anything. Nick Clegg had a press


conference where they were launching manifesto things and it felt like


the politicians in Westminster really do not know what else to


throw the Scots to try and entice them to stay. The Telegraph is


talking about the Queen being urged to intervene. Let's go on to the


Daily Express. Jihadist is planning carnage on the streets of Britain.


Isn't it interesting, before the poll on devolution, that for the


last month or two, it has been foreign stories that have


dominated, whether Iraq /Syria and the new caliphate as planned by ISIS


or whether it was Israel /Gaza or Russia/Ukraine. Those were the only


stories in town. This is a kind of British end to it which is a British


`based jihadist is not only employing terrorist methods and


beheading journalists and aid workers, but according to this take


on David Cameron's statement, they are planning bombings and other


terrorism campaigns in the UK. The only sort of cautionary note is that


you can never prove a negative, particularly when it comes to


terrorism. So it is quite easy for journalists, partly pandering to


security services, to say, be very scared. Something could happen all


the time. It is the Prime Minister is saying


this. This is all about his statement in the House of Commons


about the NATO summit, there is nothing new in this. We have known


for a few weeks, they have increased the security level, what is


interesting, maybe 500 of these, what they think of as British


jihadists in Iraq and Syria, and the question is, when they come back,


are they a threat? The government have been very clear that they think


is it `` that there is a threat, but they have not said what their actual


plan is to deal with these people, and whether you go revoke their


passport, make them stateless, should you even do that? President


Obama is making the statement is Mara about his broad`based placidly


to deal with `` strategy to deal constrained with that. Thanks for


joining us. At the top of the Alp we are going to have much more on the


timetable that Gordon Brown and `` at the top of the hour we are going


to have much more on the timetable that Gordon Brown has set out for


further Scottish devolution. And now we have the sports


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