08/09/2014 The Papers


08/09/2014

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men's final at Flushing Meadows as well. We will find out how a spat

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led to two riders being disqualified.

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Our joy of baby number two. The words dominating the front page of

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the Daily Express. The Independent asks the pioneering treatment the

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five`year`old receives will ever make it to Britain. The Daily

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Telegraph claims the Queen is being urged to speak out over Scotland.

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The Guardian has Gordon Brown as the saviour of the union campaign. And

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another royal baby headline. Very clever, the chaps at the Metro.

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We will start with the Financial Times, though. This is your paper,

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your take on what has happened. One poll! How can that be? Suddenly,

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everyone has that Scotland could vote for

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independence in ten days time and I think the markets and politicians in

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Westminster, the polls had been wide, they did not appear to narrow

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dramatically, so there was a sort of view that, this will not happen. And

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suddenly, nervousness. Some of the retail barons are talking about

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people moving deposits away from Scotland, so now,

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to see the reality that if Scots do vote to leave the United Kingdom,

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whether there would be a flight of capital away from Scotland. One

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analyst says here, the issue will not keep Scotland in the pound, but

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keep the pound in Scotland. These institutions will be tested. As you

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said, it was all the financial institutions, such as The Royal Bank

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of Scotland and Lloyds banking group, with big domiciles in

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Scotland, that with the big losers today. The other point is what the

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international implications are an investors are worried because of

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Scotland votes for independence, what does that mean about Spain in

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Catalonia? The markets are concerned about wider ramifications. This is

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rubber hitting the road, isn't it? For 18 months`1 year, we have had a

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discussion about the principles. What the poor has suggested is that

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they could well decide to leave the union and as a result, we need

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details. The markets have no details on exactly what this might mean. You

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hit the no `` nail on something which is actually not correct. When

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you say we, it depends who we is and where you are. Well, certainly in

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Scotland. But in England, everybody been asleep. Including David

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Cameron? There is nobody to vote in England, and nor should there be,

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but the ramifications for the rest of the UK, for England plus or

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whatever else it will be called, are enormous. And also, the

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ramifications, it is not like... Say it is a No vote. They are already

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scrambling to increase the powers for Scotland, devolution becomes

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Devo Max. You could almost call independence light. You have still

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got the flag, the Queen, but once you start giving considerably more

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powers, which are still unclear, new pension powers, welfare powers,

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powers to raise old change tax regimes, what does that mean for the

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rest of British politics? What does it mean for the MPs sitting in

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Scottish constituencies? There will be no reason to have them, apart

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from the defence issue. Even if there is a No vote, the Constitution

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of the UK changes dramatically. Let's go to the Guardian. Brown to

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the rescue. It was Brown who was called, not Ed Miliband, not the

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Eden`educated Prime Minister. It was a man who was out of power for a

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number of years now who is seen as the saviour of the union. Ed

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Miliband's 's problem in Scotland as he is deeply unpopular there and so

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is David Cameron. The Tories are toxic and Scotland. There is no way

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the Conservative Party can lead this fight and there are no plans, even

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in these final stages, but to Scotland and Scotland and try and

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make the case. Alistair Darling. It is not him? It looks like the Yes

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campaign... Sorry, the No campaign is panicking and it has realised

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they have not produced the goods. It is partly also a head and heart

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thing. If you say no to anything, they are relentlessly negative

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measures. It's like saying to your children, don't do this! There

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hasn't been, which has been one of the major flaws in this campaign,

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there has been no sort of compelling, romantic reason, no

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passion. Watching Gordon Brown tonight, it's interesting, you

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showed passion up there. Some of the other members of the No campaign

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perhaps lacked it. There were stories knocking around. We did a

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story on December about concerns within senior Tory circles about

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Alistair Darling, was he the right guy to do this? He won the first

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debate. When he won that first debate... It didn't really affect

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the polls. But he won it on a very sort of technical discussion about

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the fate of sterling which Alex Salmond got himself hooked on. If

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you learn from your mistakes after one debate, you make sure it you do

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it differently second time around, and as soon as he made sure that, he

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wiped the floor against Alistair Darling against a much more

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emotional basis which, after all, is the way the vast majority of voters

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vote. The starting position was that the No campaign had a 45`50% polling

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at the beginning, a year ago or something, and the Yes campaign was

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kind of languishing around 20%. It was always going to narrow. As

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Nicola Sturgeon said, we have momentum. They always started with a

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big block that would get chiselled away. But the surprising thing has

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been the way it is not chipping away, it is just collapsing. Getting

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Gordon Brown... It is now, let's try anything. Nick Clegg had a press

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conference where they were launching manifesto things and it felt like

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the politicians in Westminster really do not know what else to

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throw the Scots to try and entice them to stay. The Telegraph is

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talking about the Queen being urged to intervene. Let's go on to the

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Daily Express. Jihadist is planning carnage on the streets of Britain.

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Isn't it interesting, before the poll on devolution, that for the

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last month or two, it has been foreign stories that have

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dominated, whether Iraq /Syria and the new caliphate as planned by ISIS

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or whether it was Israel /Gaza or Russia/Ukraine. Those were the only

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stories in town. This is a kind of British end to it which is a British

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`based jihadist is not only employing terrorist methods and

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beheading journalists and aid workers, but according to this take

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on David Cameron's statement, they are planning bombings and other

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terrorism campaigns in the UK. The only sort of cautionary note is that

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you can never prove a negative, particularly when it comes to

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terrorism. So it is quite easy for journalists, partly pandering to

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security services, to say, be very scared. Something could happen all

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the time. It is the Prime Minister is saying

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this. This is all about his statement in the House of Commons

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about the NATO summit, there is nothing new in this. We have known

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for a few weeks, they have increased the security level, what is

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interesting, maybe 500 of these, what they think of as British

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jihadists in Iraq and Syria, and the question is, when they come back,

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are they a threat? The government have been very clear that they think

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is it `` that there is a threat, but they have not said what their actual

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plan is to deal with these people, and whether you go revoke their

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passport, make them stateless, should you even do that? President

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Obama is making the statement is Mara about his broad`based placidly

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to deal with `` strategy to deal constrained with that. Thanks for

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joining us. At the top of the Alp we are going to have much more on the

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timetable that Gordon Brown and `` at the top of the hour we are going

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to have much more on the timetable that Gordon Brown has set out for

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further Scottish devolution. And now we have the sports

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