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champion Michael Schumacher leaves hospital. That's all in Sportsday in


15 minutes. Welcome to our look ahead to what


the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are the pensions


consultant and the Government's older workers business champion, Ros


Altmann and the Evening Standard columnist Mihir Bose. The telegraph


is saying that the Prime Minister has warned that independence is a


leap in the dark that would punish future generations. Party leaders


take the high road says the Guardian, reflecting on the decision


of the main party leaders to travel to Scotland in pursuit of votes. The


Independent says Britain faces a constitutional crisis, after a poll


for the paper suggested that MPs in Scotland would help clinch a victory


at the next general election, even if Scotland votes to become an


independent country. The Financial Times is claiming that


investors are pulling money out of Scotland ahead of the referendum.


The paper also has a picture there from the launch of Apple's iPhone 6


in America. The Metro leads with a story that Shaun Wright, the Police


and Crime Commissioner responsible for Rotherham, has been warned that


special powers will be called for to force him out of his job if he


carries on refusing to quit. We will start with the big story of


the week, next week, the next decade potentially, the Guardian, party


leaders take the high road, Salmond derides panic in the 'No' campaign.


Carney issues warning on currency union. The three main Westminster


party leaders are heading to Scotland tomorrow to see what they


can do to convince the Scots not to vote yes. And the sense of panic, I


guess comes from the fact that PMQ's won't happen. It's going to be


abandoned by the Prime Minister and the leader of the Opposition while


they all go to Scotland. I think the tone of the way Cameron and the


other leaders have started talking just in the last couple of days is


beginning to engage in that emotional level, to really help make


the case that we all want to be stronger together, that we all want


Scotland to remain part of the family of the United Kingdom, as it


were, rather than just assuming that it's all going to be fine. The


complacency is gone and there is this understanding that the campaign


has not engaged at the right level. Now you have the Bank of England


governor, Mark Carney, stepping in saying you can't have the pound.


It's not compatible without being part of the United Kingdom. So all


the big guns are coming out there trying to make the case. Mark Carney


didn't say it was impossible. He said it was going to be tricky, sort


of. Alistair Darling was Incompatible. Asked by Salmond and


he said yes, you can adopt the pound, just as Panama uses the


dollar, the point is... A former Chancellor, he should know his


stuff. The point is that if you have the pound and don't have control of


economic policy, as we saw with the euro currency, what happened. The


problem here, the Guardian says the high road, whatever the result, this


whole debate raises questions about our political establishment. In the


last few days, we are talking about a federal system of government. We


haven't had that in this country. There's been no debate in England,


forget Scotland, no debate in Wales ` do we want a federal system. As


the opinion polls suddenly show what look like a certain No vote into


what might well be a possible Yes vote, suddenly all sorts of ideas


are coming up. The question is ` what have the politicians been doing


for so long? Both Cameron and the Labour and the Lib Dems. Maybe we


should always have had a federal system. How can it be that you have


one MP from the governing party in Westminster in Scotland, one MP.


That is a very strong part of the problem and of the campaign. It goes


to some of the divisions that there are within the United Kingdom as


well. There are pockets in the north of England which are solidly Labour.


They don't get a Tory MP. Pockets in the south where you will never get a


Labour MP. It's solidly Tory. Also, the 'No' campaign have allowed


Salmond to present Scotland as a victim. This country, which has been


a victim of the English for so long, so the only way out is to have


independence. When actually that should have been challenged from the


beginning. A lot of Scots believe that though, clearly, according to


the polls. That should have been chal epgd. No `` challenged. No,


being together has brought enormous benefits to Scotland. You have


people putting that opposite point of view to the Scots, who aren't


trusted. You have a Prime Minister from the Conservatives who went to


Eton. You have as Alex Salmond pointed out today, one of the most


distrusted Labour leaders in the history of the party as far as the


Scots are concerned. Whatever Westminster says, the Scots


potentially could say, well, we don't trust you any way. Much of the


debate from the 'No' campaign has been the economic cost. Economic


costs, after a time, you bandy figures around like billions and


millions, people ` it washes over. If you don't engage in people's


emotion and say, why do you want to break up? It needs to be about


hearts and minds not wallets. The divorce doesn't work if you're going


to get enough of your spouse's money. That's a different argument.


It depends on how the hearts and minds meet. There hasn't been, from


the 'No' campaign, a good hearts and minds campaign. There hasn't been


enough mutual respect. There hasn't been the respect that we have for


the Scots. It's been more of a teacher and a pupil rather than...


But maybe those people who are leaning towards yes have weighed all


that up. Maybe there's a hidden vote of no, which hasn't surfaced The


silent majority yet. . We shall see. All right, let's two to the


Financial Times. Investors apparently pulling their cash out of


Scotland. Well, are panicking. As you've said, until now, most people


just assumed complacently that it was all going to be fine. Suddenly,


investors are saying, oh, my God, this could really happen. Are they


panicking, potentially, as you suggest, because of a Yes vote or


because of the uncertainty surrounding whether or not it's


going to be yes or no. Markets don't like uncertainty. There are actually


genuine fears that if after the vote goes the way the opinion polls


suggest now is possible, people start pulling their money out of


Scotland, there may be currency controls put on. There may be


capital controls put on. There may be, but there might not But they


want their money out now. That seems to be what wealth managers are


saying is driving a lot of people to say they'd rather get out now just


in case. Then I can always bring it back again later. They're putting in


clauses in property deals. That's right. If there is a Yes vote, we


don't know what the consequences will be, property prices could go


down. They're putting in clauses saying if there's a Yes vote, the


property deal will be unstitched. We can change the price. All right, OK.


And going onto the independent now. Still on the same story. Yes, three


on the big one tonight. Britain faces constitutional crisis at the


next election. What's this about? This is about what might happen,


let's say Scotland votes yesser, but Scotland doesn't actually become


independent till 2016. But br that, there's an election to be had. That


election could see the Labour Party come into power, with a big, big


majority in Scotland. Because from what we can read from the opinion


polls, it seems the polls have come closer because a lot of Labour


supporters have been swinging in favour of the Yes vote. Having voted


for independence, the same sup porters, it would seem, will then


switch back to their party and of course, you have this odd situation,


Ed Miliband in Number Ten and within a year, Scotland goes and of course,


he loses hi majority. `` his majority. We are in a position of


ifs now. I don't know the 2015 election would be put back a year. I


don't know if it can be. I'm not sure. I don't think that's That's


the constitution possible. Al crisis, what will happen. It will be


very odd that an independent Scotland or voters in an independent


Scotland will be voting for a UK Parliament which within the next


year will not mean anything to the people in Scotland. It's an


extraordinary There are lots situation. Of ifs and buts in so


many possible scenarios if this actually happens. That's right. Wow


have thought by now, I mean at this point, all of this would have been


worked out or discussed or thought about at least. It's happening at


the last That's perhaps is minute. A signifier of the problem some people


would suggest with the 'No' campaign. That it was too


lackadaisical. And the question was wrongly phrased in a sense. You have


to say, "no" in order to stay. And also, why wasn't devo max, which is


what is now being proposed, why wasn't it on the paper. It's what


the Scottish Nationalists wanted ` a third option. Very odd. That's a big


political mistake. Well, the 'No' campaign are saying it is on the


ballot now. Ten days before the polls? Yeah.


That points towards what Mr Salmond was saying. Let's go to the


Guardian. Back to that. Very interesting, we are going to get the


long`awaited verdict in the murder trial of Oscar Pistorius. This


article at the bottom of the Guardian says, the trial says a lot


about modern day South Africa. Yes. This article is actually one of the


things the Guardian does best. It is delving into the background of this.


It is not just Oscar Pistorius on trial. But it is pointing out is


that this is South Africa itself, and its system, on show. We have got


a black judge, we have got a white defendant, if you like, calling her


mad. We have got `` calling her mad. We have got all of these changes


that have happened since `` calling her madam. We have got all of these


changes that have happened since apartheid. We have had some bungling


on the part of the police, but overall this analysis is very


interesting, because it points at this is about much wider issues then


what happened in that bedroom on that night. And it is a verdict, of


course, that millions of people around the world have been


expecting. Yes, not since OJ Simpson have we had something like this. And


also, it is being televised, and we have seen, as Roz said, a black


woman being addressed as madam, but also to show, as horrible as the


event was, which is being discussed, it shows that actually, the rainbow


nation has worked, in that sense. A lot of people said when Nelson


Mandela was released, this will not work. There will be bloodshed. South


Africa will not make it work. But actually, this judge is a township


woman. She was imprisoned during the days of apartheid, for protesting.


OK, we have run out of time. We will be back later. Back at 11:30pm for


another look at the stories. Many thanks.


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