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champion Michael Schumacher leaves hospital. That's all in Sportsday in

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15 minutes. Welcome to our look ahead to what

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the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are the pensions

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consultant and the Government's older workers business champion, Ros

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Altmann and the Evening Standard columnist Mihir Bose. The telegraph

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is saying that the Prime Minister has warned that independence is a

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leap in the dark that would punish future generations. Party leaders

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take the high road says the Guardian, reflecting on the decision

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of the main party leaders to travel to Scotland in pursuit of votes. The

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Independent says Britain faces a constitutional crisis, after a poll

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for the paper suggested that MPs in Scotland would help clinch a victory

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at the next general election, even if Scotland votes to become an

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independent country. The Financial Times is claiming that

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investors are pulling money out of Scotland ahead of the referendum.

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The paper also has a picture there from the launch of Apple's iPhone 6

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in America. The Metro leads with a story that Shaun Wright, the Police

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and Crime Commissioner responsible for Rotherham, has been warned that

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special powers will be called for to force him out of his job if he

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carries on refusing to quit. We will start with the big story of

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the week, next week, the next decade potentially, the Guardian, party

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leaders take the high road, Salmond derides panic in the 'No' campaign.

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Carney issues warning on currency union. The three main Westminster

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party leaders are heading to Scotland tomorrow to see what they

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can do to convince the Scots not to vote yes. And the sense of panic, I

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guess comes from the fact that PMQ's won't happen. It's going to be

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abandoned by the Prime Minister and the leader of the Opposition while

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they all go to Scotland. I think the tone of the way Cameron and the

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other leaders have started talking just in the last couple of days is

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beginning to engage in that emotional level, to really help make

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the case that we all want to be stronger together, that we all want

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Scotland to remain part of the family of the United Kingdom, as it

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were, rather than just assuming that it's all going to be fine. The

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complacency is gone and there is this understanding that the campaign

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has not engaged at the right level. Now you have the Bank of England

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governor, Mark Carney, stepping in saying you can't have the pound.

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It's not compatible without being part of the United Kingdom. So all

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the big guns are coming out there trying to make the case. Mark Carney

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didn't say it was impossible. He said it was going to be tricky, sort

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of. Alistair Darling was Incompatible. Asked by Salmond and

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he said yes, you can adopt the pound, just as Panama uses the

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dollar, the point is... A former Chancellor, he should know his

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stuff. The point is that if you have the pound and don't have control of

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economic policy, as we saw with the euro currency, what happened. The

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problem here, the Guardian says the high road, whatever the result, this

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whole debate raises questions about our political establishment. In the

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last few days, we are talking about a federal system of government. We

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haven't had that in this country. There's been no debate in England,

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forget Scotland, no debate in Wales ` do we want a federal system. As

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the opinion polls suddenly show what look like a certain No vote into

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what might well be a possible Yes vote, suddenly all sorts of ideas

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are coming up. The question is ` what have the politicians been doing

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for so long? Both Cameron and the Labour and the Lib Dems. Maybe we

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should always have had a federal system. How can it be that you have

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one MP from the governing party in Westminster in Scotland, one MP.

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That is a very strong part of the problem and of the campaign. It goes

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to some of the divisions that there are within the United Kingdom as

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well. There are pockets in the north of England which are solidly Labour.

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They don't get a Tory MP. Pockets in the south where you will never get a

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Labour MP. It's solidly Tory. Also, the 'No' campaign have allowed

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Salmond to present Scotland as a victim. This country, which has been

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a victim of the English for so long, so the only way out is to have

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independence. When actually that should have been challenged from the

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beginning. A lot of Scots believe that though, clearly, according to

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the polls. That should have been chal epgd. No `` challenged. No,

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being together has brought enormous benefits to Scotland. You have

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people putting that opposite point of view to the Scots, who aren't

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trusted. You have a Prime Minister from the Conservatives who went to

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Eton. You have as Alex Salmond pointed out today, one of the most

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distrusted Labour leaders in the history of the party as far as the

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Scots are concerned. Whatever Westminster says, the Scots

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potentially could say, well, we don't trust you any way. Much of the

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debate from the 'No' campaign has been the economic cost. Economic

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costs, after a time, you bandy figures around like billions and

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millions, people ` it washes over. If you don't engage in people's

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emotion and say, why do you want to break up? It needs to be about

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hearts and minds not wallets. The divorce doesn't work if you're going

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to get enough of your spouse's money. That's a different argument.

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It depends on how the hearts and minds meet. There hasn't been, from

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the 'No' campaign, a good hearts and minds campaign. There hasn't been

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enough mutual respect. There hasn't been the respect that we have for

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the Scots. It's been more of a teacher and a pupil rather than...

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But maybe those people who are leaning towards yes have weighed all

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that up. Maybe there's a hidden vote of no, which hasn't surfaced The

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silent majority yet. . We shall see. All right, let's two to the

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Financial Times. Investors apparently pulling their cash out of

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Scotland. Well, are panicking. As you've said, until now, most people

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just assumed complacently that it was all going to be fine. Suddenly,

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investors are saying, oh, my God, this could really happen. Are they

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panicking, potentially, as you suggest, because of a Yes vote or

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because of the uncertainty surrounding whether or not it's

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going to be yes or no. Markets don't like uncertainty. There are actually

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genuine fears that if after the vote goes the way the opinion polls

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suggest now is possible, people start pulling their money out of

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Scotland, there may be currency controls put on. There may be

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capital controls put on. There may be, but there might not But they

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want their money out now. That seems to be what wealth managers are

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saying is driving a lot of people to say they'd rather get out now just

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in case. Then I can always bring it back again later. They're putting in

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clauses in property deals. That's right. If there is a Yes vote, we

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don't know what the consequences will be, property prices could go

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down. They're putting in clauses saying if there's a Yes vote, the

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property deal will be unstitched. We can change the price. All right, OK.

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And going onto the independent now. Still on the same story. Yes, three

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on the big one tonight. Britain faces constitutional crisis at the

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next election. What's this about? This is about what might happen,

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let's say Scotland votes yesser, but Scotland doesn't actually become

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independent till 2016. But br that, there's an election to be had. That

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election could see the Labour Party come into power, with a big, big

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majority in Scotland. Because from what we can read from the opinion

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polls, it seems the polls have come closer because a lot of Labour

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supporters have been swinging in favour of the Yes vote. Having voted

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for independence, the same sup porters, it would seem, will then

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switch back to their party and of course, you have this odd situation,

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Ed Miliband in Number Ten and within a year, Scotland goes and of course,

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he loses hi majority. `` his majority. We are in a position of

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ifs now. I don't know the 2015 election would be put back a year. I

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don't know if it can be. I'm not sure. I don't think that's That's

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the constitution possible. Al crisis, what will happen. It will be

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very odd that an independent Scotland or voters in an independent

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Scotland will be voting for a UK Parliament which within the next

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year will not mean anything to the people in Scotland. It's an

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extraordinary There are lots situation. Of ifs and buts in so

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many possible scenarios if this actually happens. That's right. Wow

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have thought by now, I mean at this point, all of this would have been

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worked out or discussed or thought about at least. It's happening at

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the last That's perhaps is minute. A signifier of the problem some people

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would suggest with the 'No' campaign. That it was too

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lackadaisical. And the question was wrongly phrased in a sense. You have

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to say, "no" in order to stay. And also, why wasn't devo max, which is

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what is now being proposed, why wasn't it on the paper. It's what

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the Scottish Nationalists wanted ` a third option. Very odd. That's a big

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political mistake. Well, the 'No' campaign are saying it is on the

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ballot now. Ten days before the polls? Yeah.

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That points towards what Mr Salmond was saying. Let's go to the

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Guardian. Back to that. Very interesting, we are going to get the

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long`awaited verdict in the murder trial of Oscar Pistorius. This

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article at the bottom of the Guardian says, the trial says a lot

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about modern day South Africa. Yes. This article is actually one of the

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things the Guardian does best. It is delving into the background of this.

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It is not just Oscar Pistorius on trial. But it is pointing out is

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that this is South Africa itself, and its system, on show. We have got

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a black judge, we have got a white defendant, if you like, calling her

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mad. We have got `` calling her mad. We have got all of these changes

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that have happened since `` calling her madam. We have got all of these

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changes that have happened since apartheid. We have had some bungling

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on the part of the police, but overall this analysis is very

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interesting, because it points at this is about much wider issues then

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what happened in that bedroom on that night. And it is a verdict, of

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course, that millions of people around the world have been

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expecting. Yes, not since OJ Simpson have we had something like this. And

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also, it is being televised, and we have seen, as Roz said, a black

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woman being addressed as madam, but also to show, as horrible as the

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event was, which is being discussed, it shows that actually, the rainbow

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nation has worked, in that sense. A lot of people said when Nelson

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Mandela was released, this will not work. There will be bloodshed. South

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Africa will not make it work. But actually, this judge is a township

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woman. She was imprisoned during the days of apartheid, for protesting.

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OK, we have run out of time. We will be back later. Back at 11:30pm for

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another look at the stories. Many thanks.

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