17/09/2014 The Papers


17/09/2014

No need to wait to see what's in the papers - Clive Myrie presents a lively and informed conversation about the next day's headlines.


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Cardiff becoming to an end? `` could? Now, on the eve of the vote,

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what is the paper saying? `` what are the papers saying? Good evening.

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Coming to you from Edinburgh, let's have a look at some of the front

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pages with just a matter of hours to go until the voting booths open. The

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Scotsman says the country is going to the polls for a historic

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decision. The Daily Express says Scots are being urged to reject

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narrow nationalism and save the union. The Independent has the union

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and Saltire flags dominating. It has called the campaign a carnival of

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democracy from which the world can learn. The message from the Mirror

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is clear. Don't let the sun sets on our 307 years to get the. The

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Guardian has a map of Scotland on its front page and says that Scots

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have 15 hours to decide their country's fate. The daily record has

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the final opinion poll and the words all to pray for. And finally, the

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Times talks about the future of the UK hanging in the balance, with the

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vote, as we keep saying, too close to call. Thank you for joining us

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this evening. We have two guests, one very much in the "Yes" camp

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and... Let us begin with the Scottish Sun. It has a blank page.

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Scotland also starts with a blank page. It does, however, have 13

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pages of referendum coverage. The senior parties of Westminster, two

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years after plans for the referendum began, trying to figure out what

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their plans for devo max might be. They have bottled it. There was talk

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about how Rupert Murdoch might be in favour of Scottish independence and

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so on. Would`be Sun, out for "Yes" or "No"? They bottled it yesterday

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and they bottled it again today. In the end, Rupert Murdoch, wonderful

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proprietor though he may be, sees a commercial interest in not backing

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one side or the other. It certainly is very close. Many of the opinion

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polls are very tight. Day of destiny. Is this a curious photo?

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I'm not sure what to say. LAUGHTER. It is an appalling front page. It

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looks like our day of destiny is an appointment at a public laboratory.

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There is no poetry, no sense of the historic magnitude of the votes that

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Scots will make tomorrow. It is dismal, I'm afraid, and there is no

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excuse. The truth must out. The Scottish Daily Mail. Visually, Alec

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Torelli, we will see this on the front pages, many images of flags.

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`` pictorially. If you are going to use flags, that is the way to use

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them. It is a great front page until you get to the words but you cannot

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have everything. I think the words are absolutely fine, especially from

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a newspaper that is validly Unionist. It even has something for

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"Yes" voters. This intertwining of the Scottish and UK flags as an

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illustration of the sort of oppressive yoke from which Scotland

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must be freed and so on, if you want to see it that way. I think you

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might be reading too much into that. They might not want you to see

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that but it works for both sides. What do you think of this headline?

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All to pray for. That opinion poll is very slightly at odds with the

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overall opinion polls. The latest one that we were talking about

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tonight is nifty 2%, 48%. But again, `` is 52%, 48%. But again, it is

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very close. If I were the kind of person who prays, that is not the

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result I would be wanting to pray for. It is a respectable headline

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and it does get to the guts of the issues. Many people on both sides of

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the campaign have no idea how it will go but they are backing their

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hunches, consulting their rosary beads, their tarot cards, whatever.

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Whatever they believe to try to get some sort of feeling about how this

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will go. The truth is that nobody really knows. It is not a bad

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headline. That is the amazing thing about this. It could be a landslide

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for one side or the other. It could be very narrow. Nobody knows! You

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are steeped in this and followed it from the beginning. Did you think we

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would reach this point, seven hours until the polling booths open and no

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one knowing how it will end up? I always thought "Yes" would win. Deep

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down, I still think that. But, really, it has been so tight and the

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gap that existed in the polls has narrowed remarkably. But are the

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polls capturing what is actually happening? Nobody knows. This is an

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unprecedented situation with possibly an 88% turnout. People

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voting who have never voted before. I'm not sure the opinion polls are

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reaching those people. I don't know. I find it difficult to believe

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that people will register to vote because they want to save the union.

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But I don't know. It is all anecdotal but we have been

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travelling around for weeks and I have been struck by the number of

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people of all ages who have said they have never voted before but

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they will jolly well vote for this one. From both camps. It is very

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striking. This is the most important vote that any of us have ever cast

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and it is likely to remain the most important vote we will ever cast in

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our lifetimes. On that, I think everyone can agree. There is a

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solemnity, a magnitude to this decision that we're making, this

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ballot, which is actually quite impressive. The power of that and

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the potential consequences, "Yes" or "No" , is really quite striking.

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When you speak to people who cast their vote by post, they will tell

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you that they hesitated and wanted to double check themselves that they

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were absolutely sure. It is very different from voting in an ordinary

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general election when you get another go five years or four years

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later. This is only a one`time thing and that focuses minds. These are

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votes that will not be taken lightly. And the fact that none of

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the papers are confident in making a close it is. Everybody wants to sit

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on the fence because nobody is sure which way it will go. And the

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campaigners have risen to that challenge. It has been

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and a privilege to have been part of it. And for every

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accept that it is coming to an end! It is all downhill from here. I find

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it hard to believe that is the case. Day of destiny. Don't leave us this

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way, says the Mirror. This is a paper that does not sell a huge

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amount in Scotland. Our day of destiny in Scotland with a Union

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Flag and the blue of Scotland stripped out of it. A rather curious

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image to project north of the border today of all days. Don't let the sun

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set on our union. On our 300 years together. Simplistic, some might

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say, but there you go. This is interesting. Interesting visually

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but also striking. Talking about the carnival of democracy. That goes

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back to what you were saying about how it was a privilege to report on

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this. Does that resonate for you? Absolutely. Even in recent days, the

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streets have been a life with debate and there is music and there is

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almost a festival atmosphere at times. It is electrifying. I have

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not been in Edinburgh all that much but when I have been here, I have

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noticed the same thing. The country is alive with debate. Political

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pundits always want more engagement with politics but when they get it,

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they start warning about divisiveness and things being torn

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apart. People are having serious, grown`up debate about this in the

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vast majority of cases, and it is just a great experience for the

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country. The fact that we are talking not just about party

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political issues but big issues like the future of the country and what

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kind of country we want to live in, I think, is why so many people have

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engaged with this. The Financial Times does write a large piece about

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a family that is ripped apart, with the mother and the father voting in

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different ways and then the three children divided as well. They never

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say that the family is torn apart apart from the fact that they are

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voting in different ways. We are a house divided this week but still a

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house, come what may, "Yes" or "No" . Scotland will remain Scotland and

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it will all be fine in the long run. If there is a "Yes" vote, they will

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be significant and expensive teething problems. But in the long

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run, of course this country can run its own affairs. It would be a

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dismal reflection of 300 years of union if it left Scotland in a

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position where that was not the case. At the same time, the case for

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the union seems to be quite powerful and, personally, persuasive. I think

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the nations of the UK are collectively greater than the sum of

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their constituent parts. Some may disagree and that is reasonable. But

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this has been a good campaign. It has been a good moment for Scotland.

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And it has been a necessary campaign as well. At some point, we were

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going to have these discussions and if not now, then when? While there

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will be a deep sadness or anger and frustration depending on the

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results, in the end, we have to remember that we are all in this

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together, come what may. It will probably still be fine. One last

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look at the Herald. A beautiful photograph. Quite a simple front

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page. It is a beautiful front page that avoids the cliches that many of

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the others have adorned themselves with. It is a beautiful picture. The

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Herald is a sister paper of the Sunday Herald. It does not support a

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"Yes" vote, so we are clearly also a family divided, but this is a

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marvellous front page and best of all has a quote that summarises the

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message, I suppose, of voting for independence. It says voting for

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independence is not a vote for a Nirvana or a land of milk and honey.

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It is a vote for an ability to build a new country and it is a vote for

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responsibility. What we are voting for is responsibility on our

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shoulders and I'm not above work and there are thousands of us who want

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to do just that. That is a more than suitable way to end this. Thank you.

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And we will see what we all wake up to on Friday morning.

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