17/09/2014 The Papers


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Cardiff becoming to an end? `` could? Now, on the eve of the vote,


what is the paper saying? `` what are the papers saying? Good evening.


Coming to you from Edinburgh, let's have a look at some of the front


pages with just a matter of hours to go until the voting booths open. The


Scotsman says the country is going to the polls for a historic


decision. The Daily Express says Scots are being urged to reject


narrow nationalism and save the union. The Independent has the union


and Saltire flags dominating. It has called the campaign a carnival of


democracy from which the world can learn. The message from the Mirror


is clear. Don't let the sun sets on our 307 years to get the. The


Guardian has a map of Scotland on its front page and says that Scots


have 15 hours to decide their country's fate. The daily record has


the final opinion poll and the words all to pray for. And finally, the


Times talks about the future of the UK hanging in the balance, with the


vote, as we keep saying, too close to call. Thank you for joining us


this evening. We have two guests, one very much in the "Yes" camp


and... Let us begin with the Scottish Sun. It has a blank page.


Scotland also starts with a blank page. It does, however, have 13


pages of referendum coverage. The senior parties of Westminster, two


years after plans for the referendum began, trying to figure out what


their plans for devo max might be. They have bottled it. There was talk


about how Rupert Murdoch might be in favour of Scottish independence and


so on. Would`be Sun, out for "Yes" or "No"? They bottled it yesterday


and they bottled it again today. In the end, Rupert Murdoch, wonderful


proprietor though he may be, sees a commercial interest in not backing


one side or the other. It certainly is very close. Many of the opinion


polls are very tight. Day of destiny. Is this a curious photo?


I'm not sure what to say. LAUGHTER. It is an appalling front page. It


looks like our day of destiny is an appointment at a public laboratory.


There is no poetry, no sense of the historic magnitude of the votes that


Scots will make tomorrow. It is dismal, I'm afraid, and there is no


excuse. The truth must out. The Scottish Daily Mail. Visually, Alec


Torelli, we will see this on the front pages, many images of flags.


`` pictorially. If you are going to use flags, that is the way to use


them. It is a great front page until you get to the words but you cannot


have everything. I think the words are absolutely fine, especially from


a newspaper that is validly Unionist. It even has something for


"Yes" voters. This intertwining of the Scottish and UK flags as an


illustration of the sort of oppressive yoke from which Scotland


must be freed and so on, if you want to see it that way. I think you


might be reading too much into that. They might not want you to see


that but it works for both sides. What do you think of this headline?


All to pray for. That opinion poll is very slightly at odds with the


overall opinion polls. The latest one that we were talking about


tonight is nifty 2%, 48%. But again, `` is 52%, 48%. But again, it is


very close. If I were the kind of person who prays, that is not the


result I would be wanting to pray for. It is a respectable headline


and it does get to the guts of the issues. Many people on both sides of


the campaign have no idea how it will go but they are backing their


hunches, consulting their rosary beads, their tarot cards, whatever.


Whatever they believe to try to get some sort of feeling about how this


will go. The truth is that nobody really knows. It is not a bad


headline. That is the amazing thing about this. It could be a landslide


for one side or the other. It could be very narrow. Nobody knows! You


are steeped in this and followed it from the beginning. Did you think we


would reach this point, seven hours until the polling booths open and no


one knowing how it will end up? I always thought "Yes" would win. Deep


down, I still think that. But, really, it has been so tight and the


gap that existed in the polls has narrowed remarkably. But are the


polls capturing what is actually happening? Nobody knows. This is an


unprecedented situation with possibly an 88% turnout. People


voting who have never voted before. I'm not sure the opinion polls are


reaching those people. I don't know. I find it difficult to believe


that people will register to vote because they want to save the union.


But I don't know. It is all anecdotal but we have been


travelling around for weeks and I have been struck by the number of


people of all ages who have said they have never voted before but


they will jolly well vote for this one. From both camps. It is very


striking. This is the most important vote that any of us have ever cast


and it is likely to remain the most important vote we will ever cast in


our lifetimes. On that, I think everyone can agree. There is a


solemnity, a magnitude to this decision that we're making, this


ballot, which is actually quite impressive. The power of that and


the potential consequences, "Yes" or "No" , is really quite striking.


When you speak to people who cast their vote by post, they will tell


you that they hesitated and wanted to double check themselves that they


were absolutely sure. It is very different from voting in an ordinary


general election when you get another go five years or four years


later. This is only a one`time thing and that focuses minds. These are


votes that will not be taken lightly. And the fact that none of


the papers are confident in making a close it is. Everybody wants to sit


on the fence because nobody is sure which way it will go. And the


campaigners have risen to that challenge. It has been


and a privilege to have been part of it. And for every


accept that it is coming to an end! It is all downhill from here. I find


it hard to believe that is the case. Day of destiny. Don't leave us this


way, says the Mirror. This is a paper that does not sell a huge


amount in Scotland. Our day of destiny in Scotland with a Union


Flag and the blue of Scotland stripped out of it. A rather curious


image to project north of the border today of all days. Don't let the sun


set on our union. On our 300 years together. Simplistic, some might


say, but there you go. This is interesting. Interesting visually


but also striking. Talking about the carnival of democracy. That goes


back to what you were saying about how it was a privilege to report on


this. Does that resonate for you? Absolutely. Even in recent days, the


streets have been a life with debate and there is music and there is


almost a festival atmosphere at times. It is electrifying. I have


not been in Edinburgh all that much but when I have been here, I have


noticed the same thing. The country is alive with debate. Political


pundits always want more engagement with politics but when they get it,


they start warning about divisiveness and things being torn


apart. People are having serious, grown`up debate about this in the


vast majority of cases, and it is just a great experience for the


country. The fact that we are talking not just about party


political issues but big issues like the future of the country and what


kind of country we want to live in, I think, is why so many people have


engaged with this. The Financial Times does write a large piece about


a family that is ripped apart, with the mother and the father voting in


different ways and then the three children divided as well. They never


say that the family is torn apart apart from the fact that they are


voting in different ways. We are a house divided this week but still a


house, come what may, "Yes" or "No" . Scotland will remain Scotland and


it will all be fine in the long run. If there is a "Yes" vote, they will


be significant and expensive teething problems. But in the long


run, of course this country can run its own affairs. It would be a


dismal reflection of 300 years of union if it left Scotland in a


position where that was not the case. At the same time, the case for


the union seems to be quite powerful and, personally, persuasive. I think


the nations of the UK are collectively greater than the sum of


their constituent parts. Some may disagree and that is reasonable. But


this has been a good campaign. It has been a good moment for Scotland.


And it has been a necessary campaign as well. At some point, we were


going to have these discussions and if not now, then when? While there


will be a deep sadness or anger and frustration depending on the


results, in the end, we have to remember that we are all in this


together, come what may. It will probably still be fine. One last


look at the Herald. A beautiful photograph. Quite a simple front


page. It is a beautiful front page that avoids the cliches that many of


the others have adorned themselves with. It is a beautiful picture. The


Herald is a sister paper of the Sunday Herald. It does not support a


"Yes" vote, so we are clearly also a family divided, but this is a


marvellous front page and best of all has a quote that summarises the


message, I suppose, of voting for independence. It says voting for


independence is not a vote for a Nirvana or a land of milk and honey.


It is a vote for an ability to build a new country and it is a vote for


responsibility. What we are voting for is responsibility on our


shoulders and I'm not above work and there are thousands of us who want


to do just that. That is a more than suitable way to end this. Thank you.


And we will see what we all wake up to on Friday morning.


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