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Cardiff becoming to an end? `` could? Now, on the eve of the vote, | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
what is the paper saying? `` what are the papers saying? Good evening. | :00:09. | :00:25. | |
Coming to you from Edinburgh, let's have a look at some of the front | :00:26. | :00:30. | |
pages with just a matter of hours to go until the voting booths open. The | :00:31. | :00:40. | |
Scotsman says the country is going to the polls for a historic | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
decision. The Daily Express says Scots are being urged to reject | :00:47. | :00:49. | |
narrow nationalism and save the union. The Independent has the union | :00:50. | :00:57. | |
and Saltire flags dominating. It has called the campaign a carnival of | :00:58. | :01:01. | |
democracy from which the world can learn. The message from the Mirror | :01:02. | :01:08. | |
is clear. Don't let the sun sets on our 307 years to get the. The | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
Guardian has a map of Scotland on its front page and says that Scots | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
have 15 hours to decide their country's fate. The daily record has | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
the final opinion poll and the words all to pray for. And finally, the | :01:25. | :01:31. | |
Times talks about the future of the UK hanging in the balance, with the | :01:32. | :01:37. | |
vote, as we keep saying, too close to call. Thank you for joining us | :01:38. | :01:47. | |
this evening. We have two guests, one very much in the "Yes" camp | :01:48. | :01:54. | |
and... Let us begin with the Scottish Sun. It has a blank page. | :01:55. | :02:04. | |
Scotland also starts with a blank page. It does, however, have 13 | :02:05. | :02:13. | |
pages of referendum coverage. The senior parties of Westminster, two | :02:14. | :02:19. | |
years after plans for the referendum began, trying to figure out what | :02:20. | :02:25. | |
their plans for devo max might be. They have bottled it. There was talk | :02:26. | :02:32. | |
about how Rupert Murdoch might be in favour of Scottish independence and | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
so on. Would`be Sun, out for "Yes" or "No"? They bottled it yesterday | :02:37. | :02:43. | |
and they bottled it again today. In the end, Rupert Murdoch, wonderful | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
proprietor though he may be, sees a commercial interest in not backing | :02:49. | :02:56. | |
one side or the other. It certainly is very close. Many of the opinion | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
polls are very tight. Day of destiny. Is this a curious photo? | :03:02. | :03:14. | |
I'm not sure what to say. LAUGHTER. It is an appalling front page. It | :03:15. | :03:19. | |
looks like our day of destiny is an appointment at a public laboratory. | :03:20. | :03:26. | |
There is no poetry, no sense of the historic magnitude of the votes that | :03:27. | :03:30. | |
Scots will make tomorrow. It is dismal, I'm afraid, and there is no | :03:31. | :03:40. | |
excuse. The truth must out. The Scottish Daily Mail. Visually, Alec | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
Torelli, we will see this on the front pages, many images of flags. | :03:47. | :03:59. | |
`` pictorially. If you are going to use flags, that is the way to use | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
them. It is a great front page until you get to the words but you cannot | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
have everything. I think the words are absolutely fine, especially from | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
a newspaper that is validly Unionist. It even has something for | :04:12. | :04:21. | |
"Yes" voters. This intertwining of the Scottish and UK flags as an | :04:22. | :04:29. | |
illustration of the sort of oppressive yoke from which Scotland | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
must be freed and so on, if you want to see it that way. I think you | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
might be reading too much into that. They might not want you to see | :04:38. | :04:46. | |
that but it works for both sides. What do you think of this headline? | :04:47. | :04:53. | |
All to pray for. That opinion poll is very slightly at odds with the | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
overall opinion polls. The latest one that we were talking about | :04:57. | :05:05. | |
tonight is nifty 2%, 48%. But again, `` is 52%, 48%. But again, it is | :05:06. | :05:13. | |
very close. If I were the kind of person who prays, that is not the | :05:14. | :05:16. | |
result I would be wanting to pray for. It is a respectable headline | :05:17. | :05:23. | |
and it does get to the guts of the issues. Many people on both sides of | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
the campaign have no idea how it will go but they are backing their | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
hunches, consulting their rosary beads, their tarot cards, whatever. | :05:32. | :05:38. | |
Whatever they believe to try to get some sort of feeling about how this | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
will go. The truth is that nobody really knows. It is not a bad | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
headline. That is the amazing thing about this. It could be a landslide | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
for one side or the other. It could be very narrow. Nobody knows! You | :05:53. | :05:59. | |
are steeped in this and followed it from the beginning. Did you think we | :06:00. | :06:09. | |
would reach this point, seven hours until the polling booths open and no | :06:10. | :06:16. | |
one knowing how it will end up? I always thought "Yes" would win. Deep | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
down, I still think that. But, really, it has been so tight and the | :06:23. | :06:27. | |
gap that existed in the polls has narrowed remarkably. But are the | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
polls capturing what is actually happening? Nobody knows. This is an | :06:32. | :06:38. | |
unprecedented situation with possibly an 88% turnout. People | :06:39. | :06:44. | |
voting who have never voted before. I'm not sure the opinion polls are | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
reaching those people. I don't know. I find it difficult to believe | :06:49. | :06:53. | |
that people will register to vote because they want to save the union. | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
But I don't know. It is all anecdotal but we have been | :07:00. | :07:02. | |
travelling around for weeks and I have been struck by the number of | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
people of all ages who have said they have never voted before but | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
they will jolly well vote for this one. From both camps. It is very | :07:10. | :07:19. | |
striking. This is the most important vote that any of us have ever cast | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
and it is likely to remain the most important vote we will ever cast in | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
our lifetimes. On that, I think everyone can agree. There is a | :07:28. | :07:37. | |
solemnity, a magnitude to this decision that we're making, this | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
ballot, which is actually quite impressive. The power of that and | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
the potential consequences, "Yes" or "No" , is really quite striking. | :07:46. | :07:54. | |
When you speak to people who cast their vote by post, they will tell | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
you that they hesitated and wanted to double check themselves that they | :07:59. | :08:02. | |
were absolutely sure. It is very different from voting in an ordinary | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
general election when you get another go five years or four years | :08:08. | :08:17. | |
later. This is only a one`time thing and that focuses minds. These are | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
votes that will not be taken lightly. And the fact that none of | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
the papers are confident in making a close it is. Everybody wants to sit | :08:25. | :08:32. | |
on the fence because nobody is sure which way it will go. And the | :08:33. | :08:36. | |
campaigners have risen to that challenge. It has been | :08:37. | :08:45. | |
and a privilege to have been part of it. And for every | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
accept that it is coming to an end! It is all downhill from here. I find | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
it hard to believe that is the case. Day of destiny. Don't leave us this | :08:57. | :09:05. | |
way, says the Mirror. This is a paper that does not sell a huge | :09:06. | :09:12. | |
amount in Scotland. Our day of destiny in Scotland with a Union | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
Flag and the blue of Scotland stripped out of it. A rather curious | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
image to project north of the border today of all days. Don't let the sun | :09:21. | :09:28. | |
set on our union. On our 300 years together. Simplistic, some might | :09:29. | :09:36. | |
say, but there you go. This is interesting. Interesting visually | :09:37. | :09:44. | |
but also striking. Talking about the carnival of democracy. That goes | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
back to what you were saying about how it was a privilege to report on | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
this. Does that resonate for you? Absolutely. Even in recent days, the | :09:55. | :10:04. | |
streets have been a life with debate and there is music and there is | :10:05. | :10:06. | |
almost a festival atmosphere at times. It is electrifying. I have | :10:07. | :10:13. | |
not been in Edinburgh all that much but when I have been here, I have | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
noticed the same thing. The country is alive with debate. Political | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
pundits always want more engagement with politics but when they get it, | :10:23. | :10:27. | |
they start warning about divisiveness and things being torn | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
apart. People are having serious, grown`up debate about this in the | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
vast majority of cases, and it is just a great experience for the | :10:38. | :10:40. | |
country. The fact that we are talking not just about party | :10:41. | :10:46. | |
political issues but big issues like the future of the country and what | :10:47. | :10:49. | |
kind of country we want to live in, I think, is why so many people have | :10:50. | :10:56. | |
engaged with this. The Financial Times does write a large piece about | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
a family that is ripped apart, with the mother and the father voting in | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
different ways and then the three children divided as well. They never | :11:04. | :11:10. | |
say that the family is torn apart apart from the fact that they are | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
voting in different ways. We are a house divided this week but still a | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
house, come what may, "Yes" or "No" . Scotland will remain Scotland and | :11:20. | :11:25. | |
it will all be fine in the long run. If there is a "Yes" vote, they will | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
be significant and expensive teething problems. But in the long | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
run, of course this country can run its own affairs. It would be a | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
dismal reflection of 300 years of union if it left Scotland in a | :11:40. | :11:42. | |
position where that was not the case. At the same time, the case for | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
the union seems to be quite powerful and, personally, persuasive. I think | :11:48. | :11:54. | |
the nations of the UK are collectively greater than the sum of | :11:55. | :11:58. | |
their constituent parts. Some may disagree and that is reasonable. But | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
this has been a good campaign. It has been a good moment for Scotland. | :12:04. | :12:07. | |
And it has been a necessary campaign as well. At some point, we were | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
going to have these discussions and if not now, then when? While there | :12:13. | :12:20. | |
will be a deep sadness or anger and frustration depending on the | :12:21. | :12:26. | |
results, in the end, we have to remember that we are all in this | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
together, come what may. It will probably still be fine. One last | :12:30. | :12:37. | |
look at the Herald. A beautiful photograph. Quite a simple front | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
page. It is a beautiful front page that avoids the cliches that many of | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
the others have adorned themselves with. It is a beautiful picture. The | :12:47. | :12:52. | |
Herald is a sister paper of the Sunday Herald. It does not support a | :12:53. | :12:58. | |
"Yes" vote, so we are clearly also a family divided, but this is a | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
marvellous front page and best of all has a quote that summarises the | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
message, I suppose, of voting for independence. It says voting for | :13:09. | :13:11. | |
independence is not a vote for a Nirvana or a land of milk and honey. | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
It is a vote for an ability to build a new country and it is a vote for | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
responsibility. What we are voting for is responsibility on our | :13:22. | :13:27. | |
shoulders and I'm not above work and there are thousands of us who want | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
to do just that. That is a more than suitable way to end this. Thank you. | :13:32. | :13:38. | |
And we will see what we all wake up to on Friday morning. | :13:39. | :13:57. | |
Hello, and welcome to Sportsday with me John Watson. | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
On the way this evening: Beaten by Bayern Munich, Manchester City slip | :14:04. | :14:06. | |
to defeat in their opening group match in the Champions League. | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
Jose Mourinho's Chelsea side | :14:13. | :14:13. |