17/09/2014 The Papers


17/09/2014

Similar Content

Browse content similar to 17/09/2014. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!

Transcript


LineFromTo

Cardiff becoming to an end? `` could? Now, on the eve of the vote,

:00:00.:00:08.

what is the paper saying? `` what are the papers saying? Good evening.

:00:09.:00:25.

Coming to you from Edinburgh, let's have a look at some of the front

:00:26.:00:30.

pages with just a matter of hours to go until the voting booths open. The

:00:31.:00:40.

Scotsman says the country is going to the polls for a historic

:00:41.:00:46.

decision. The Daily Express says Scots are being urged to reject

:00:47.:00:49.

narrow nationalism and save the union. The Independent has the union

:00:50.:00:57.

and Saltire flags dominating. It has called the campaign a carnival of

:00:58.:01:01.

democracy from which the world can learn. The message from the Mirror

:01:02.:01:08.

is clear. Don't let the sun sets on our 307 years to get the. The

:01:09.:01:14.

Guardian has a map of Scotland on its front page and says that Scots

:01:15.:01:19.

have 15 hours to decide their country's fate. The daily record has

:01:20.:01:24.

the final opinion poll and the words all to pray for. And finally, the

:01:25.:01:31.

Times talks about the future of the UK hanging in the balance, with the

:01:32.:01:37.

vote, as we keep saying, too close to call. Thank you for joining us

:01:38.:01:47.

this evening. We have two guests, one very much in the "Yes" camp

:01:48.:01:54.

and... Let us begin with the Scottish Sun. It has a blank page.

:01:55.:02:04.

Scotland also starts with a blank page. It does, however, have 13

:02:05.:02:13.

pages of referendum coverage. The senior parties of Westminster, two

:02:14.:02:19.

years after plans for the referendum began, trying to figure out what

:02:20.:02:25.

their plans for devo max might be. They have bottled it. There was talk

:02:26.:02:32.

about how Rupert Murdoch might be in favour of Scottish independence and

:02:33.:02:36.

so on. Would`be Sun, out for "Yes" or "No"? They bottled it yesterday

:02:37.:02:43.

and they bottled it again today. In the end, Rupert Murdoch, wonderful

:02:44.:02:48.

proprietor though he may be, sees a commercial interest in not backing

:02:49.:02:56.

one side or the other. It certainly is very close. Many of the opinion

:02:57.:03:01.

polls are very tight. Day of destiny. Is this a curious photo?

:03:02.:03:14.

I'm not sure what to say. LAUGHTER. It is an appalling front page. It

:03:15.:03:19.

looks like our day of destiny is an appointment at a public laboratory.

:03:20.:03:26.

There is no poetry, no sense of the historic magnitude of the votes that

:03:27.:03:30.

Scots will make tomorrow. It is dismal, I'm afraid, and there is no

:03:31.:03:40.

excuse. The truth must out. The Scottish Daily Mail. Visually, Alec

:03:41.:03:46.

Torelli, we will see this on the front pages, many images of flags.

:03:47.:03:59.

`` pictorially. If you are going to use flags, that is the way to use

:04:00.:04:03.

them. It is a great front page until you get to the words but you cannot

:04:04.:04:07.

have everything. I think the words are absolutely fine, especially from

:04:08.:04:11.

a newspaper that is validly Unionist. It even has something for

:04:12.:04:21.

"Yes" voters. This intertwining of the Scottish and UK flags as an

:04:22.:04:29.

illustration of the sort of oppressive yoke from which Scotland

:04:30.:04:32.

must be freed and so on, if you want to see it that way. I think you

:04:33.:04:37.

might be reading too much into that. They might not want you to see

:04:38.:04:46.

that but it works for both sides. What do you think of this headline?

:04:47.:04:53.

All to pray for. That opinion poll is very slightly at odds with the

:04:54.:04:56.

overall opinion polls. The latest one that we were talking about

:04:57.:05:05.

tonight is nifty 2%, 48%. But again, `` is 52%, 48%. But again, it is

:05:06.:05:13.

very close. If I were the kind of person who prays, that is not the

:05:14.:05:16.

result I would be wanting to pray for. It is a respectable headline

:05:17.:05:23.

and it does get to the guts of the issues. Many people on both sides of

:05:24.:05:27.

the campaign have no idea how it will go but they are backing their

:05:28.:05:31.

hunches, consulting their rosary beads, their tarot cards, whatever.

:05:32.:05:38.

Whatever they believe to try to get some sort of feeling about how this

:05:39.:05:42.

will go. The truth is that nobody really knows. It is not a bad

:05:43.:05:47.

headline. That is the amazing thing about this. It could be a landslide

:05:48.:05:52.

for one side or the other. It could be very narrow. Nobody knows! You

:05:53.:05:59.

are steeped in this and followed it from the beginning. Did you think we

:06:00.:06:09.

would reach this point, seven hours until the polling booths open and no

:06:10.:06:16.

one knowing how it will end up? I always thought "Yes" would win. Deep

:06:17.:06:22.

down, I still think that. But, really, it has been so tight and the

:06:23.:06:27.

gap that existed in the polls has narrowed remarkably. But are the

:06:28.:06:31.

polls capturing what is actually happening? Nobody knows. This is an

:06:32.:06:38.

unprecedented situation with possibly an 88% turnout. People

:06:39.:06:44.

voting who have never voted before. I'm not sure the opinion polls are

:06:45.:06:48.

reaching those people. I don't know. I find it difficult to believe

:06:49.:06:53.

that people will register to vote because they want to save the union.

:06:54.:06:59.

But I don't know. It is all anecdotal but we have been

:07:00.:07:02.

travelling around for weeks and I have been struck by the number of

:07:03.:07:06.

people of all ages who have said they have never voted before but

:07:07.:07:09.

they will jolly well vote for this one. From both camps. It is very

:07:10.:07:19.

striking. This is the most important vote that any of us have ever cast

:07:20.:07:23.

and it is likely to remain the most important vote we will ever cast in

:07:24.:07:27.

our lifetimes. On that, I think everyone can agree. There is a

:07:28.:07:37.

solemnity, a magnitude to this decision that we're making, this

:07:38.:07:40.

ballot, which is actually quite impressive. The power of that and

:07:41.:07:45.

the potential consequences, "Yes" or "No" , is really quite striking.

:07:46.:07:54.

When you speak to people who cast their vote by post, they will tell

:07:55.:07:58.

you that they hesitated and wanted to double check themselves that they

:07:59.:08:02.

were absolutely sure. It is very different from voting in an ordinary

:08:03.:08:07.

general election when you get another go five years or four years

:08:08.:08:17.

later. This is only a one`time thing and that focuses minds. These are

:08:18.:08:20.

votes that will not be taken lightly. And the fact that none of

:08:21.:08:24.

the papers are confident in making a close it is. Everybody wants to sit

:08:25.:08:32.

on the fence because nobody is sure which way it will go. And the

:08:33.:08:36.

campaigners have risen to that challenge. It has been

:08:37.:08:45.

and a privilege to have been part of it. And for every

:08:46.:08:51.

accept that it is coming to an end! It is all downhill from here. I find

:08:52.:08:56.

it hard to believe that is the case. Day of destiny. Don't leave us this

:08:57.:09:05.

way, says the Mirror. This is a paper that does not sell a huge

:09:06.:09:12.

amount in Scotland. Our day of destiny in Scotland with a Union

:09:13.:09:15.

Flag and the blue of Scotland stripped out of it. A rather curious

:09:16.:09:20.

image to project north of the border today of all days. Don't let the sun

:09:21.:09:28.

set on our union. On our 300 years together. Simplistic, some might

:09:29.:09:36.

say, but there you go. This is interesting. Interesting visually

:09:37.:09:44.

but also striking. Talking about the carnival of democracy. That goes

:09:45.:09:49.

back to what you were saying about how it was a privilege to report on

:09:50.:09:54.

this. Does that resonate for you? Absolutely. Even in recent days, the

:09:55.:10:04.

streets have been a life with debate and there is music and there is

:10:05.:10:06.

almost a festival atmosphere at times. It is electrifying. I have

:10:07.:10:13.

not been in Edinburgh all that much but when I have been here, I have

:10:14.:10:18.

noticed the same thing. The country is alive with debate. Political

:10:19.:10:22.

pundits always want more engagement with politics but when they get it,

:10:23.:10:27.

they start warning about divisiveness and things being torn

:10:28.:10:31.

apart. People are having serious, grown`up debate about this in the

:10:32.:10:37.

vast majority of cases, and it is just a great experience for the

:10:38.:10:40.

country. The fact that we are talking not just about party

:10:41.:10:46.

political issues but big issues like the future of the country and what

:10:47.:10:49.

kind of country we want to live in, I think, is why so many people have

:10:50.:10:56.

engaged with this. The Financial Times does write a large piece about

:10:57.:11:00.

a family that is ripped apart, with the mother and the father voting in

:11:01.:11:03.

different ways and then the three children divided as well. They never

:11:04.:11:10.

say that the family is torn apart apart from the fact that they are

:11:11.:11:15.

voting in different ways. We are a house divided this week but still a

:11:16.:11:19.

house, come what may, "Yes" or "No" . Scotland will remain Scotland and

:11:20.:11:25.

it will all be fine in the long run. If there is a "Yes" vote, they will

:11:26.:11:29.

be significant and expensive teething problems. But in the long

:11:30.:11:35.

run, of course this country can run its own affairs. It would be a

:11:36.:11:39.

dismal reflection of 300 years of union if it left Scotland in a

:11:40.:11:42.

position where that was not the case. At the same time, the case for

:11:43.:11:47.

the union seems to be quite powerful and, personally, persuasive. I think

:11:48.:11:54.

the nations of the UK are collectively greater than the sum of

:11:55.:11:58.

their constituent parts. Some may disagree and that is reasonable. But

:11:59.:12:03.

this has been a good campaign. It has been a good moment for Scotland.

:12:04.:12:07.

And it has been a necessary campaign as well. At some point, we were

:12:08.:12:12.

going to have these discussions and if not now, then when? While there

:12:13.:12:20.

will be a deep sadness or anger and frustration depending on the

:12:21.:12:26.

results, in the end, we have to remember that we are all in this

:12:27.:12:29.

together, come what may. It will probably still be fine. One last

:12:30.:12:37.

look at the Herald. A beautiful photograph. Quite a simple front

:12:38.:12:43.

page. It is a beautiful front page that avoids the cliches that many of

:12:44.:12:46.

the others have adorned themselves with. It is a beautiful picture. The

:12:47.:12:52.

Herald is a sister paper of the Sunday Herald. It does not support a

:12:53.:12:58.

"Yes" vote, so we are clearly also a family divided, but this is a

:12:59.:13:02.

marvellous front page and best of all has a quote that summarises the

:13:03.:13:08.

message, I suppose, of voting for independence. It says voting for

:13:09.:13:11.

independence is not a vote for a Nirvana or a land of milk and honey.

:13:12.:13:16.

It is a vote for an ability to build a new country and it is a vote for

:13:17.:13:21.

responsibility. What we are voting for is responsibility on our

:13:22.:13:27.

shoulders and I'm not above work and there are thousands of us who want

:13:28.:13:31.

to do just that. That is a more than suitable way to end this. Thank you.

:13:32.:13:38.

And we will see what we all wake up to on Friday morning.

:13:39.:13:57.

Hello, and welcome to Sportsday with me John Watson.

:13:58.:14:03.

On the way this evening: Beaten by Bayern Munich, Manchester City slip

:14:04.:14:06.

to defeat in their opening group match in the Champions League.

:14:07.:14:12.

Jose Mourinho's Chelsea side

:14:13.:14:13.

Download Subtitles

SRT

ASS