24/09/2014 The Papers


24/09/2014

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champion. And England keep faith with Captain Cook, describing him as

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the best man to lead them into the Cricket World Cup. More details in

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15 minutes. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are broadcaster

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Penny Smith and journalist and broadcaster, Petrie Hosken.

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Tomorrow's front pages. The lead in the Times and in nearly

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all of the papers tonight is the recall

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of Parliament to vote on British airstrikes in Iraq. The paper says

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bombing could start within hours of Friday's vote. The Guardian says RAF

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Tornado aircraft would be used if such an attack were sanctioned. It

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also has a picture of a 19`year`old boy from Brighton. It's feared he's

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become the latest British jihadi to die in Syria. We must deal with

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these psychopathic murderers, is the headline in the Telegraph.

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It also marks the death of the Dowager Duchess of Devonshire, the

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last of the Mitford sisters. And in the Mirror, Britain on the brink of

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Gulf War III. The Mail breaks away and leads with

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David Cameron's apology to the Queen after saying she purred down the

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phone to him over Scotland deciding to stay in the union. And it has a

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picture of Alice Gross, missing now for four weeks.

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And finally, Jason Orange quits Take That. They will carry on as a trio.

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Let's begin with the Times. Many of the headlines are catching the

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phrases that people like David Cameron and President Obama want us

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to remember, the important messages. Calling for war on barbarians. The

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Mrs is that this is not just the West against Muslim states in the

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Middle East. `` the message. And dealing with these psychopathic

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murderers. The danger is that by making them sound like lunatics,

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perhaps what we are not doing is looking at how seriously they are

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operating. They are under the command of people who used to be

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high up in the Iraqi military command, and therefore, they know

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how to operate. They can arm and train people and are doing so in

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areas where the satellites cannot see them. They are clever. They are

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not a bunch of lunatics. And so when we talk about war on barbarians, of

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course he talks about cruelty and beheadings, rape, he says it is

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horrific and totally medieval in character, the problem is that it

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makes the rest of us think that they are medieval in brain and in their

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thinking, which they are not. They are clever. Look how much money they

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have got. And in such a small amount of time. And they cannot even be

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pushed back into one little corner. Al`Qaeda was this disparate group of

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people, and ideology, really. Anyone could be Al`Qaeda. This group are

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very well organised with a proper chain of command. I'm not glorifying

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them but we should not underestimate them. These are not just shepherds

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with come off the mountains and have decided they want to cut people 's

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heads off. They are being run by callous and experienced warlords.

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That is what Mr Cameron has to careful of. And it could take many,

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many years to ferret out. But how do you wipe out an ideology? You can

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perhaps kill the member can you the message? The front page says that

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the UN has also passed a resolution calling for nations to make

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travelling abroad for jihad a criminal offence. The Mirror calls

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it Gulf War III. One year ago, President Obama was talking about

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pulling troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq, but now he is literally

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talking about sending them back to a degree, except for groups on the

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ground. In some ways, the war was never over. When we did the first

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Gulf War, there were so many people who we interviewed who all said the

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same thing: We have to know our exit strategy. We have to know what we

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will do if we win. We won surprisingly quickly. And we let the

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Kurds down in the first Gulf War as well. Yes. And we are essentially

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reaping what people want us we would when we started selling these feeds

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in the first place. Do you think `` selling `` sowing these seeds. Do

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you think we took our eye off the ball? There were these warnings. I

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think we actually got war weary, weary of all of our soldiers, men

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and women, going over there, losing their lives for what seemed like

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something that had not been there in the first place, these weapons of

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mass destruction. I would urge journalists at the moment to

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consider that headlines like Gulf War III are a little bit

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scaremongering. We are not putting boots on the ground. I worry about

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the devilment, sometimes, from journalists who want to shake things

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up a bit. This is an important vote on Friday on just one aspect. And

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David Cameron says if we are going to be talking about Syria, is

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another discussion. This is just Iraq, this is just because we have

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been asked to do it. By Iraq. And so we will not go any further. I just

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go... When I see headlines like Gulf War III... And speaking of there

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being so many fronts in this war, the Guardian focuses on one of them

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that also David Cameron, President Obama and other UN members have been

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discussing tonight, which is how to stop jihadis from leaving the

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country and fighting abroad. This is a young man, 19 years old. A family

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who came from Sierra Leone, war`torn Sierra Leone, who came here arrived

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in the UK in 2004, and this is a 19`year`old who went over and fought

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for... Well... And affiliate group of Al`Qaeda that has fought against

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both the Syrian president and against other Islamic State, Britons

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in the country's civil war. The whole thing is just back `` against

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other Islamic State factions in the country's civil war. It has not been

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confirmed that it is him but she believes it is. We have more people

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going out there. I'm afraid we will have more coming back in this

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condition. Dead. This is a really salient story, actually, that young

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people need to pay attention to. Do you think a person can be

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derecognised? I have done so many interviews on this topic and spoken

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with people. People who have been in cults. This one woman was in a cult

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as a child and it'll power her entire life to try to do programme

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herself from that cult. `` it took her entire life. I don't know how

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you could test that it has happened. Once an ideology is so

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entrenched in somebody, it is very difficult to persuade them

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otherwise. The Daily Mail steers away from this subject. David

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Cameron's apology after saying the Queen purred down the phone. Why did

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he even say that? Just stupid. It kind of gives the lie that it is

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women who gossip. Men are just as bad. This is without precedent for

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serving prime minister, this apology. He said he would be

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following it up with a personal phone call. In case you don't know

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what we are talking about, this is because he said the Queen purred

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down the phone to him over the Scots vote. We do know that she was quite

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thrilled with the result, naturally. But nevertheless, the

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Prime Minister says he is embarrassed and extremely sorry to

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have aired the Queen 's private views to someone during a

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conversation he did not know was being picked up while he was wearing

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a microphone. Gordon Brown... So many lessons to be learned. It is

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one of the first things you learn on radio or television. You are never

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alone with a microphone. Especially the Prime Minister, talking about

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the Queen. We have had confirmation of this story, so to speak, from

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Downing Street. Downing Street has confirmed that David Cameron will be

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offering an apology in person to the Queen. He was chatting to Michael

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Bloomberg in New York. Downing Street has already contacted

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Buckingham Palace to offer his apologies but it is understood he

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will apologise in person when he meets Her Majesty for one of his

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regular audiences. That is going to be an awkward on the station. How do

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you move on `` awkward conversation. How do you move on

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from that? Do you want another biscuit? Maybe she would just laugh.

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The Independent focuses on a man who became a bit of a hero at the Labour

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Party Conference. Not Ed Miliband. There he is on the front page. And

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this is why. We must never, ever let the NHS free from our grasp because

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if we do, your future will be my past. I'm not Apollo vision... A

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politician, a member of the elite `` I'm not a politician, a member of

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the elite or a financial guru, but my life is your history and we

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should keep it that way. Say it loud across the country, Mr Cameron, keep

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your mitts off my NHS! The best speech of the conference. He

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apparently took some advice from Ed Miliband the night before his

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speech. Maybe it should have been the other way around, perhaps. He

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was talking about his sister who died from tuberculosis when she was

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ten because there was no NHS at the time. He had people at the

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conference in tears. But what an amazing man. The NHS will be the

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battleground. If I were to advise Ed Miliband, firstly, I would say don't

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forget important things in your speeches, but I would also say don't

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forget the NHS because it is an incredibly emotive subject. I live

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in a very safe Tory seat. They decimated the NHS in that area and

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they lost their safe seat to the Labour Party. And men like him

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standing up and speaking out passionately and personally about

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our health service, that is a vote winner. Have you noticed that this

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is a subject people...? We only have to say, does anyone have an opinion

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on hospitals and phone lines light up immediately. And it is your local

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hospital. Even if people have not used them yet, it is that safety and

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security. That security blanket. He went and voted and voted for the

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creation of the NHS and that is why it is such an emotive speech. It was

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personal and passionate and it was real people. It looked quite off the

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cuff as well. We are tired of politicians going blah blah blah.

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The Telegraph. A wonderful portrait of the Dowager Duchess of

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Devonshire. The Mitford sisters were rascals of their day. Scandalous and

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friends with Hitler and Winston Churchill and hanging out with

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various other... But it didn't do any harm. A good innings. Dying at

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the age of 94. She really led life to the full and write to the end.

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She was perhaps one of the quieter ones in the end. She married the

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Duke and then turned this whole estate around and made it a success.

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One of the first and only to make these big houses actually make

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money. Very bright and absolutely beautiful and I have been coveting

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those eyebrows on her. Look at those eyebrows! We will have to leave it

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there. Eyebrow tips. Thank you. Hello and welcome to Sportsday. I'm

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Katie Gornall. Coming up: Spurs come from behind to fell Forest, on a

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is the new

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