26/09/2014 The Papers


26/09/2014

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to take a step closer to the final. And all the other results as well

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coming up in 15 minutes, after the papers.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing

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us tomorrow. With me are Dawn`Maria France, Editor of Yorkshire Women's

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Life Magazine and the broadcaster, Alice Arnold. Tomorrow's front

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pages: The Daily Mirror says Britain is set to embark on a lengthy and

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costly third Gulf War after MPs gave the green light for RAF raids on

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extremists in Iraq. The Independent pictures anti`war

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protesters, saying there are already fears of 'mission creep.' Like many

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of the papers, The Guardian features a picture of George Clooney and his

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fiancee in Venice, as well as reflecting on the Commons vote.

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The Times says 'uneasy MPs back bombing raids ` but only in Iraq'.

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The Daily Star reports that a huge majority of MPs voted for the air

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strikes. The Daily Express follows the pack,

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with George Clooney and the Commons vote sharing the front page. The

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Daily Mail goes its own way, with no mention at all of today's Iraq vote.

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Instead, along with a photo of the paper reports forty`something

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first`time buyers are to be offered 20 per cent discounts on a 100

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thousand new homes. And the Scotsman features the Ryder

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Cup on its front page ` as well as the vote in parliament.

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So let's begin. We start on the vote at the Commons today. RAF planes

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poised to start. The British public do not have an appetite for war, but

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whether we like it not we are in it now. It will be going on for a long

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time. IS is a threat not only to the West but for the Middle East as

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well. We need to take action, but the thing is we do not seem to have

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an X it strategy and we do not have enough information about the tribal

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war taking place. `` exit strategy. By crack at you know we don't have

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enough information? World in devil is in the detail. `` well the devil

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is in the Gita offers a. And we should not expect any different. Six

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planes are being sent to bomb right now, but we at talking about a slow

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drag right now. We are supposedly expert in Iraq compared to other

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countries because we have fought there so many times in the last

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century, and we are supposed to know the land quite well. These are

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supposed to be targeted campaigns against facilities of ISIS and to

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try to give support to the opposition there. But it is

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difficult. It is incredibly concentrated. We're in there and I

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do not think we probably had a choice. I do not think anybody is

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keen for this to happen. Uneasy if the word they use their. Yes and a

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lot of people would have been uneasy, felt they did not have an

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option. But the difficulty is when you say you have one? Also about

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Syria, we have airstrikes in Iraq but, at some point we need to look

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at Syria. Will we need to talk to Assad, we need to remove him?

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Questions need to be answered and they have not been. Is it true that

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in military complex very rarely do go in with all the information. It

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is likely to morph. `` conflicts. That is true but you need to have an

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X tragic, and we do not seem to have that. `` exit strategy. How does

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this affect the nation, what is going to change? The Sun is picking

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up a lot of these, a war for a generation they are saying. It will

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affect a lot of us. It does say a war for a generation, it never

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ending, we had the Iraq war and here we go again. The other thing is the

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effect it will have on this country. These are targeted their straits we

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are beginning with, what will happen when the first civilians are killed,

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which is inevitable as ? Will be Muslim community be divided? It

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difficult and commentator but there is no doubt that it probably will.

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It makes us more vulnerable to attack, quite senior former military

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officials have been saying that. But again I am not sure the MPs felt

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they had a choice of. And Dawn`Maria France, it is one of these curious

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things isn't it? You get the impression listening to the debate

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that lots of MPs did not want to be entangled in this but felt they had

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no choice of what to get involved. I thought Iraq would have asked for

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military action a long time ago. It was inevitable that they were going

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to be recalled, a recall of Parliament for this action. We knew

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we could not sit back and offer humanitarian aid, we will have to

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support American extracts. But again we would have to look at how we can

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work with Muslim communities. `` airstrikes. There must be something

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wrong if youngsters are born in England and going to fight with IS.

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The government needs to work with those grassroots groups that is

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tried to turn those youth away. They need to stop that kind of activity

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taking place at the White this is not just about what

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conflicts are not won by bombing conflicts are not won by bombing

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happens for the our not sure who we are asking to go to a table and

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negotiate here. Ban Ki`moon was referenced a number of times today.

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History tells us that is true, that is what happened in Northern Ireland

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in the end but I am not sure this is that at a I'm not sure what the

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endgame is. In the mirror, an interesting headline, back to Iraq

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it says. It will cost ?3 billion. We live in times when budgets are being

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tightened, but Dawn`Maria France, I wonder how many people reacted that

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way? Thinking how much will it cost? That is true, but as I said earlier

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really learnt yesterday that there was good to be serious attacks on

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New York, Paris and London. They were going to attack the

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underground, so it is something we have been dragged into whether we

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like it or not. I think the figure will be a lot more to before, and it

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will be a long, drawnout war. `` to be fair. The Independent, and the

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papers generally, there is a bit of dissent, but by and large the

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reporting is a pretty straight rather than critical. The papers are

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not taking a side, as you say they are reporting it straight. The

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mirror does that, it had a negative comment to say, but as you say, it

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is very factual. `` Mirror. They are not having an opinion, they are just

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saying this is what is happening. That is probably what the MPs felt

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as well. Let us look at some of the other stories Ozil, the NHS will

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play for Ashya King's treatment. This is an extra briefs story. `` an

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extraordinary story. I cannot believe they used an arrest warrant

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for this. Or they wanted is for a boy to be treated properly. It has

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been a U`turn by the NHS and we are happy that they are paying for the

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treatment. I wish them a quick recovery. We wish him and the King

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family well, but the police and the authorities will continue to say

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that if confronted with those circumstances they made decisions

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which, at the time, were right. But to use the European arrest warrant

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to trace the family, when it is used to track down hard on Kabul is, I

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thought it was a misuse of Robert money and police for. The papers and

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the media in general turned towards teaching family quickly and they?

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They did. Initially, to be fair, the hospital were very concerned for the

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boy's and safety. That is fair enough. Once they had found the

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family, the treatment was very questionable, but I thought once

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they had found him, he was a safer. That his medical business was not

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our business. We should not have been reporting that after a while,

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this was his private medical history. Now this becomes a story

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again because this is the NHS, supposedly, painful stop he had

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restarted the treatment. `` supposedly paying. And who knows

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what the best treatment is? We all this and well, it is a desperate

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case. I hope he gets better. But it has been interesting that this

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brings it back into the headlines. On the front of the Daily Mail, they

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have alone not got any coverage of the Iraq vote on the front page. 20%

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off your first home. What are they telling us? It sounds like they are

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looking at giving a 20% discount for homes that are about 200,000, they

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are aiming at people in their 40s. But it sounds like a soundbite and

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the devil is in the detail. Going towards an election it sounds good

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but I would light to see more meat on the bone. We are heading towards

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an election, on the other hand, Alice Arnold, plenty of people will

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say this is fine. I like this policy. I am a first home buyer and

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anything that gets you there, I welcome. It depends where these

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homes. Where are the brown field sites? Brownfield land is cheaper

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than other land. Brownfield sites, which are set, our old sites,

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commercial sites. Guess they would not get approval ordinarily. The

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housing situation is pretty desperate that nobody would disagree

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with the fact that we need more homes for first`time buyers. That is

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essential. They have, with a figure of 200,000, but I do not know where

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the site are. That may be an awful lot in certain areas of the country

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but in other areas it would be considered very little. It depends

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where they are. Dawn`Maria France, you are representing a Yorkshire

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magazine based in Leeds, how will this be received their? It is quite

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hard for a lot of people, not just in Yorkshire but elsewhere as.

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Personal wealth is at an all`time low. If it was doable it would be a

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vote winner but I would like to see how it would be done before they

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actually agreed with it. It goes up to 40, that is interesting that we

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now look at first time buyers being up to 40 years of age, it does a lot

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about the housing market. It does. If you can get a house, what will

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that count, what will that cost? You still have a ?40,000 income, that is

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a large income to be paying a mortgage of ?160,000. And finally, a

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list is our flying into Venice to see George Clooney get married.

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There is a picture of Matt Damon, Cindy Crawford. `` A`lister. And the

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nation will be happy that the civil bucket of the Silver Fox has been

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locked down. But a lot of women will be heartbroken. I think Monday is

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the actual ceremony but they are having a lot of parties on the

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weekend. I know he is a keen watcher of the BBC News channel, so we wish

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him a lot of luck. That is it from us, coming up next it is sport stay.

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Hello and welcome to Sportsday ` I'm Eilidh Barbour. Coming up tonight `

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