30/09/2014 The Papers


30/09/2014

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union Autumn internationals. And we'll hear from Ryder Cup hero Jamie

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Donaldson. That's all in Sportsday with me, Olly Foster, in 15 minutes,

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straight after the papers. Hello and welcome to

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our look ahead to what the papers With me are James Rampton,

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a columnist for The Independent and Colleen Graffy who is a law

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professor at Pepperdine University Welcome to both of you. Tomorrow's

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front pages, The times leads with our top story, strikes by RAF jets

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on targets in Iraq. The wife of Alan Henning is pictured on the front of

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the Guardian, with her appeal for her husband to be released by

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Islamic State militants. And for the brainwashed 15`year`old who is

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thought to have travelled to Syria to join militants is the lead on the

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Daily Mail. In the Telegraph, David Cameron's speech tomorrow to the

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Conservative Party conference, reporting he is expected to promised

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billions for the NHS. Finally this hour, the independent leaves with

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the ongoing protest by thousands of pro`democracy demonstrators in Hong

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Kong. `` leads. Let's start with the front page of the Guardian, the

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appeal by Barbara Henning for the release of her husband, still being

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held by Islamic State militants. A very moving account of a white's

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desperate way for husband was rock relief? `` a white's desperate plea

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for her husband's relief. She must be so distraught, she has the

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composure to go on television and do these interviews, appealing directly

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to ISIL. I like the way she is so intelligent about it saying, look,

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the sharia court has found he is not a spy. So what is your reason for

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holding him? She's also been able to get the support of Muslim Imams, who

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have all said this is wrong, it is against Islam to be holding this

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innocent man who was there to try and help people bringing aid to the

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area in Syria. The headline links not just the appeal, but also the

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events over Iraq from the RAF jets? The timing is that this video has

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time that the Foreign Office and the time that the Foreign Office and the

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Minister of defence announced that the RAF made its first two air

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strikes on IS. The timing may be perceived as unfortunate. But I

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absolutely echo what you say. Her bravery is to be applauded, in the

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most difficult time of her life, she had the courage to stand in front of

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the cameras and make these good points. The sharia court was brought

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because they thought that his passport had a chip which meant he

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was a spy. And all of the showed their passports and they

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said, we all have them. Showed it was ludicrous. She's courageous to

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do that and wrote to point out there is an outcry across the world. Some

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of these Imams are very conservative and even they said it was against

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Sharia law to execute this man who has been in Syria four times on

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mercy missions. Chose them for what they are, it is not about religion.

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That shows them. They are both leading with the same story, these

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two papers. James, looking ahead to the Prime Minister speech to the

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Conservative Party conference, it will be interesting if he goes big

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on the NHS? The Guardian headline to do some textual analysis, it is

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quite interesting. They have said he is planting a Tory flag on the NHS,

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implying that he is colonising something that is not his. The

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perception among many voters is that it is a Labour creation, and any

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Tories that try to claim it somehow being in authentic. However, as both

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of these pieces underline, he's making very big promises here that

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he will carry on absolute real terms increases and that he will ring

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fence the budget. That will annoy many on the backbenches. Liam Fox is

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already grumbling about that. Also, I think quite legitimately, he's

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bringing in his own experiences of his son, who tragically died in

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2009, and saying, I know what the NHS can bring to people, I know the

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progress that can be made in DNA testing and what it could bring to

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families. I know some things could be cured. I think that is a

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legitimate thing to do and it gives him a personal force in this adamant

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that many other politicians would lack. What do you make of it? I

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think it's a clever him say that this should not be just a Labour

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tactic. It is something the Conservative Party can plant a flag

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on. The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt today echoed that, saying, we are

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going to complete the vision of Nye Bevan. So clearly saying that this

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was something that Labour was maybe involved in the initially, but we

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are going to make it happen, specifically because they have been

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so good on the economy. Therefore, the strong economy holds a strong

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NHS, making that a very clear connection. You're never going to

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have a strong NHS unless you have the economy that is going to be able

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to afford it. To quote Bill Clinton, he always said, it's the economy,

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stupid. That is what Cameron has been saying all week. We have a

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plan, we have already sorted the recovery to a plan, we have a plan

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of how we are going to do it over the next five years. He's

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contrasting the perception that Labour's plans are perhaps not so

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coherent. I think it is very canny politics to make that contrast and

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tidy NHS, a sacred thing for everybody in this country,

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particularly for Labour voters, to tie that into the economy is very

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canny. I love the fact that he mentioned there should be doctors

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over the weekends for Saturday and Sunday. It makes so much sense. We

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have 24`7 grocery stores, and how much more important is our health?

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As I say, with this voice! You need to see your GP! I couldn't see one

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for three days. Let's contrast the headlines, the Guardian headline

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uses the word tries, the Telegraph is more robust? Yes, a pledge. It

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brings up the fact that they are going to finish the job and also

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making the very strong connection between the economy and the NHS,

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bringing in Jeremy Hunt. There is this quote here, completing Nye

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Bevan's vision for the NHS, that treats every patient with dignity

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and respect. Jeremy Hunt foreshadows the speech that will be given

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tomorrow by the Prime Minister. The other observation to make, it

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appeared in the Guardian piece, the idea that the NHS needs a lot more

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money than real terms increases, as is argued by quite a lot of people,

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because of the ageing population. Perhaps neither party is offering

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enough? That's a good point. Even as Jeremy Hunt and others have been

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seen to steal what would be seen as Labour's clothes, the Guardian makes

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the point that this promise by David Cameron might not even be enough to

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underwrite the massive increase that is going to be needed as we all live

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longer. Men in this country are now living 86 years, an average. In the

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past 30 years, that has gone up by five years. If that increases

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exponentially, the NHS will have a massive crisis on its hands and it

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will need even more than the increases that Karen is promising.

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We are also moving into an age where technology is changing everything

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and there is a different approach. It is no longer let you go to your

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doctor and they take care of your health, there is now personal

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responsibility, people are more aware, they can have digital things

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to be aware of their health, their cholesterol, their heart. Doesn't

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work for make, but it is a good idea. `` for me. Another story you

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picked out with reference to the air strikes over Iraq by British

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military planes. The first time they have actually dropped bombs on Iraqi

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targets. The RAF have been out there, flying sorties. There has

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been a little but criticism that they cannot find a target, because

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Parliament only voted for going into Iraq and not Syria, that they are

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unable to find targets. They are also doing reconnaissance missions.

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It's a lot more difficult in Iraq because the bases and the command

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and control are in Syria. So in Iraq, they are often finding moving

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targets, they can be trucks, it can be civilian areas. We have to be

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extremely careful on civilian deaths. The last thing we want to do

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is to make this into a West war against Islam. Right now, with five

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very strong Arab Sunni nations supporting the effort, it has been

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terrific. The efforts of the UK, I say make sure you have the targets,

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as they are doing. I don't think we should rush to say that they are not

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doing it. There was also the argument that because they can't

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find targets, the air strikes are working. The US has already degraded

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the major targets and ISIS is scared of sticking its head above the

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parapet because it knows it will be bombed from the air. You can spin it

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that way so, we are not finding targets because they are scared to

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come out their capacity is being diminished. They are being pinned

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down. Let's go to the front of the Independent. I know that you have

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been following events in Hong Kong closely. Dramatic photographs of the

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protesters that have been out on the streets of Hong Kong for a number of

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days. The headline, Britain weighs into the Hong Kong dispute because

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the Chinese ambassador is to be told of the UK's dismay? Rightly so. It's

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a very exciting moment. Somebody said, who is the leader? Someone

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responded, Hong Kong itself. They are calling it the umbrella

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revolution, because they have been using umbrellas to prevent the

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pepper spray. It's partly the police's own doing, by using tear

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gas and strong arm tactics. It is bringing more and more people out in

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the street. It started initially as a very peaceful demonstration. The

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next 24 hours RK because we have a national day when more people are

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coming out? It could explode in this huge devastation. One hopes it does

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not turn violent. I'm old enough to remember Tiananmen Square, the great

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surge of hope we had in the West. God forbid it should turn out like

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that. There is a real sense of optimism that the people are

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speaking, we are listening and expressing our dismay. Hopefully it

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will lead to something very positive in Hong Kong. I will have to call

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matters to a close for this hour. Thank you both very much. That is it

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for the papers. You will both be back with me at 11:34 another look

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at the front pages. Ahead of the sport, some breaking

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news from Dallas being reported by Associated Press that a patient

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being treated at a Dallas hospital has tested positive for Ebola. It is

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the first case of the disease to be diagnosed

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