01/11/2015 The Papers


No need to wait until tomorrow morning to see what's in the papers - Martine Croxall presents a lively and informed conversation about the next day's headlines.

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Hello and welcome to a look ahead to the papers. There is still time.


Let's look at the front pages. We will start with a Financial Times.


The paper says the result is a triumph for president Erdogan. The


Metro has a striking picture of a child's shoe. The Guardian has a


warning from a leading Tory MP that new surveillance plans will only be


backed by MPs face include some form of judicial consent. The Telegraph


leads with research that won't fall cancers are diagnosed A


departments. This paper says that couples are increasingly going to be


denied fertility treatment. The Daily Express says that a new blood


test will help identify people at risk of diabetes. Let's look at the


situation in Turkey. Here it is on the FT. They keep's ruling party


sweeps to victory. The HK party gains a clear party in a national


election but the president falls short of a supermajority. The polls


were not expecting them to get this close even, to this kind of result.


No, it's been a surprise result and you have seen his supporters


triumphant, of course, because they were not expecting it either. It is


a conclusive victory for Erdogan and his party. Five months ago, they had


a hung election. There has been an stability since then and three big


explosions blamed on Islamic state. There have been conflict with the


Kurdish area. And a peace march, when 100 people were killed. There


is a theory that because it was hung, the critics would say that


what has happened is that Erdogan has stirred things up and created a


need for a strongman, which he is, and generated that instability


within the country. Whether that is exactly accurate not depends. But


it's a difficult situation in Turkey at the moment hand perhaps now we


need to see how he will react to that. There was a very partial media


before that we have a bit of a partial media as well in this


country. He has definitely done well. But it says here, in the


Financial Times, that he may be tantalisingly short of his


supermajority. Why does he need this supermajority? It's all about a


referendum. Because he would like to change the constitution so he can


have a presidential republic like in France. He has already done the


three terms as Prime Minister and now, he is having a term as a


president. He would like to carry on as president. They appear to like


strong men in Turkey. I have been to stumble only and I don't know if


that counts as Turkey. I was only there twice at the weekend, working.


The streets were full of men and presumably, the women were at home


having children. I am very much hoping that he does get his way and


this becomes more open to women, this sighting. He has taken it the


other way. It has become more conservative under his rule. It was


famously secular but there has been controversy since he came to power


over that very issue. This alleged move against the secular traditions


of Turkey. I was hoping he might be listening. You never know. We will


send him a copy. Let's stay with the FT and look at another story. Fear


rise of lawsuits over gender pay a quality move. This is the decision


by the government that they want bonuses that are paid to men and


women, large companies are going to have to publish that information and


that can of information is important to women who feel they might be


underpaid compared with ML counterpoints. Amazingly, this


government wants equal pay for equal work and I think so do we. Companies


are fearful that we are actually going to sue to get it. I am


speaking like I am talking about half of women here. The law has been


in place of 40 years and the should not be the need for this


publication, should there? It has not been happening at this


government is doing its best by the sounds of things to get women's vote


the next time round. They are wanting... For companies to be


fearful... This isn't just about bonuses. It's about the proposal


that all companies over 250 employees should publish their pay.


The initial proposal was straightforward average pay between


men and women in larger companies. He has expanded it to the public


sector. When those figures, they haven't said how they are going to


calculate the monkey was going to be included and so on, but when they


get the point of those actual figures being published and of


course it is likely to show, because there are more men in senior in


companies... Yes, and more women in lower positions. That is what they


are worried about. It's very difficult for companies to resolve


these differentials overnight. It is. But for them to be saying they


are fearful. They have been asked to do this for 40 years. The question


is, how exactly it is defined and what the reasons are for people


being at different levels. The devil is in the detail about how they


calculate these pay audits and how they're going to be published. Lots


for lawyers to argue about. Let's move on to the i. IVF on the NHS


under threat. Why so? According to the i, sum of commissioning groups


that commission your health services are going stop funding will stop at


the moment, Nice says that you should get three rounds, three


cycles of IVF if you have fertility problems. And apparently, something


like a third of women go on to have a baby, or couples, rather. Some


areas of the country are now saying we are so strapped for cash, we are


not going to give you three cycles. They used to be a lottery about this


as to where you lived in the country. Now, and every area of the


country, they will give you one cycle but that is being cut back. I


think infertility, for a lot of couples, should be regarded as an


illness. It's very expensive if you go privately. Well, it is. If you're


having a discussion, should say I have a child. Personally, I don't


think that if money is limited and there is a question about that,


maybe it shouldn't be spent on older people who cannot... I'm not sure it


is an absolute right for people to have a child. And you can find


Martin on Twitter for your replies. We are a broad church. We can cope


with that difference of opinion. On the Telegraph, one in four cancers


diagnosed in A When it is diagnosed, often because nurses is


not good for people. -- prognosis. It says here a lot of people are not


been diagnosed quickly enough. Part of that sometimes is down to the


fault of doctors not having done it. It seems to be saying that it's not


100% clear, that a lot of it is down to individuals and men are probably


worse, not reacting soon enough, or recognising symptoms. When they are


actually go to the GP or the hospital, it's almost too late.


There is an element here in which the signs are not being picked up by


people and people themselves... I feel you were saying, some of the


education around this is not as good as it should be. When I was on


Watchdog, 25 years ago, I was diagnosed with advanced bowel


cancer. I'd not even heard of it and it was the most common cancer in


Europe. We are bad getting the message over in this country. What


is the answer? We have an inverse relationship between the number of


enormous cancer charities we have and the fact they put out


information like tiredness and losing weight for my disease. If I


waited until I was tired of losing weight, and this is mentioned in


here, I would be dead by now. We have to get better at telling people


what the symptoms are. I didn't think the campaign was very good.


Having said that, it's odd. In one sense we are being told that far too


many people are going to GPs and they are being inundated. At the


same time, this story suggests people are not doing enough. Some


people need to go more often. GPs are not giving enough training.


30,000 people a month are looking for bowel cancer. We should be


helping people to check what the symptoms are better, before they go


to the GP. Let's go to the Metro. This is awful. This picture is sad.


Crash experts discover plane disintegrated. The suggestion is


this plane which crashed yesterday actually broke up in midair. The


picture here is just heartbreaking. It's a picture of a child's shoe


amongst the record. -- wreckage. It personalises it because somebody is


going to recognise that shoe. This is... We don't know what caused it


yet but it sounds as though it may have been some kind of terrible


mechanical failure because it fell straight out of the sky. The picture


is in a lot of papers and you can recognise luggage and so on. In


Britain, this is 220 families that are affected. Egypt was quick to say


yesterday that they thought it was down to some kind of technical


fault, not terrorism. We will have to wait for the investigation. I


don't think they have any idea to be frank and they were saying that...


They were saying, don't say it is terrorism. It would be catastrophic


for the tourist industry, which Russians have been helping to


support in a big way. A lot of other countries, including our own, people


are not going to as much as they were. The Russians have been going.


This might affect that if it is terrorism. The reports are tonight


as the has been a tail strike in 2001, which would have weakened...


The tail hit the runway when it landed. There have been repairs on


the of that plane. If it had found that, and I don't think he knew that


the time, if it had had that previous accident, it weakens the


fuel is large and expose it to disaster. I suppose it would be


better if it is mechanical failure, rather than terrorism. They have the


black box. A comment on the Daily Express. This is the ex-servicemen


and women who have walked across Britain. Yes, with a lot of


disabilities between them as well. I saw him on your news channel hugging


the men as they were coming in and hugging the women. But I thought,


gosh, it is nice to see a royal who is being so emotional. I met his


mother a couple of times and she was great for hugging people. I think


the Royals could do themselves goodbye hugging a few more people.


It's an extraordinary effort by these men and women. Harry and women


-- William are involved in this. I had forgotten because I thought you


were talking about the Queen, but you were talking about Diana. The


Queen has never had me! That would be something. That's it for the


Papers for this hour. Lynn and Martin will be back again at


11:30pm. Stay with us here on BBC News. At 11 o'clock, the latest on


the plane crashing Egypt, in which 224 people were killed, including 17


children. Now, it's time for


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