01/11/2015 The Papers


01/11/2015

No need to wait until tomorrow morning to see what's in the papers - Martine Croxall presents a lively and informed conversation about the next day's headlines.


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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

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With me are Martin Bentham, who's the Home Affairs Editor for the

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Evening Standard and the broadcaster and campaigner, Lynne Faulds Wood.

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Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...

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The Turkish election is the main story for the FT.

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The paper says the result is a "triumph" for President Erdogan

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after his setback at the polls earlier in the year.

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The Metro has a striking picture of a child's shoe

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amid the wreckage of the Russian airliner which crashed in Egypt.

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the Guardian has a warning from a leading Tory MP that new

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surveillance plans will only be backed by the Commons

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if they include some form of judicial consent.

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The Telegraph leads with new research which claims one

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in four cancers are diagnosed in A departments.

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According to the i couples struggling to have children are

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increasingly likely to be denied NHS-funded fertility treatment.

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The Express says a new blood test could help identify healthy

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The top story in the Mail is summed up in its headline:

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And finally, the Times leads on Jeremy Corbyn's support for the vote

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Let's begin with the Daily Mail and the headline which we just

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mentioned. Hackers targeting pensioners, using details stolen by

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TalkTalk and other firms to prey on the elderly. It just smacks of a

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kind of story you would have done. I would have. It is good but the

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government has done on pensions. They have really freed them up and

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so on but even savvy people like me who have spent ten years

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investigating these things, we took people who looks after hours before

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the financial on spend the -- ombudsman and learned a lot more.

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Many in their 60s - 90s have taken their pensions out and the criminals

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are after them. Like TalkTalk, there is a list of how many, I think there

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were 15,000 of them according to the mail e-mail, who are in the age

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group that would be very tasty to the conmen. A lot of people are

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vulnerable because they are not savvy, they are kind and trusting

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and they're not expecting when they get a call from someone from

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TalkTalk that it is a conmen impersonating them. Their details

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are being sold on the dark web, there are things called suckers

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lists which are particularly attractive to conmen because they

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know your age, and it got your bank account. So it could sound quite

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plausible, potentially? I think that is the problem. If you think your

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personal details might have gone astray because of things like the

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TalkTalk hacking case, and you think therefore that someone might call

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you to talk about it, potentially people can be tried in this way.

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Unfortunately, for many years, criminals have tried to do this type

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of scam, sending e-mails to people and calling them. Their very

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successful. They are. Hopefully as people become more and more aware it

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will become harder to do but unfortunately, it seems however

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often the messages communicated not to respond or give out your bank

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details come out there are still people who it and still fall for

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it. I feel the government didn't do enough to protect them and it is

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coming home to roost. The Times. Jeremy Corbyn's praises rebels in

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the Scottish Labour Party. They were meeting this weekend and they have

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voted to scrap Trident -- praised. The Scottish Labour leader wants to

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retain it but Jeremy Corbyn says it is a sign that democracy has opened

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up and that he will take their views into account when they hold their

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defence meeting. That is fair enough. If the party decides they

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don't want to have Trident, that is the way they will decide ultimately

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although the leadership clearly doesn't feel that way at the

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moment. There are people within the leadership, Jeremy Corbyn obviously

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doesn't want to have it himself, but the deputy one set. There is a long

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list of people in the shadow cabinet to our in favour of retaining

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Trident and it will be very difficult for them to resolve. I

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would guess that within the party itself, at the grassroots level,

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many would be against it. The point they're making here in the Times is

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that, for 60 years, Labour and the Tories have agreed to keep Trident

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and now suddenly the Labour Party has completely split and you don't

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know where it is going to go. Many people want to support Trident

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because otherwise we would become vulnerable in the world and it also

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loses thousands of jobs. Independent has a health story about IVF on the

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NHS. This is the fact that there is not enough money around to give

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everybody as many rounds of NHS funded IVF that they might have had

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in the past. They say you should have three rounds if you are

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entitled to it, and in fact, you can have much more success if you do it

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that way. Broadly speaking, we have one round across -- we have had

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three rounds across the country, at least, which has an element of

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fairness, but now IVF is being cut. You think that is not a bad idea? I

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don't think it is a good idea, in the sense that I believe everyone

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should have a help for everything they needed and wanted if money was

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not an issue. But if there is a limited amount of money, and of

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course we have seen that the NHS needs ?8 billion according to Simon

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Stevens, the NHS chief, before 2020, so it needs extra money just

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to maintain that the current level, then unfortunately, there are going

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to be difficult decisions and some areas that cannot be provided for.

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We know how lovely it is to have children. It is a serious sadness if

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you can't. I don't think it is a right for people to have children. I

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would personally rather that people who are suffering from

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life-threatening illnesses, or those who are elderly or can't move around

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properly, that money was spent on those people. The Daily Mirror,

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holiday jet blown up in midair. Blown up? The Daily Mirror and the

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Sun are both saying experts say it was a bomb but there is no evidence

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of that at the time. Some other papers are reporting there was a

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tail strike but this reticular plane had banged its tail when it was

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landing earlier which could have done damage -- particular. We do

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know that it is a tragedy and there is a picture of a small child's shoe

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in that picture and that is the saddest thing, because 225 people

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have died. Nobody has talked about this yet, but if it did turn out to

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be a terrorist attack, this could be very significant in relation to

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Russian involvement in Syria. There is a theory that it will put

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pressure on Putin internally but I think the reverse is probably true.

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It will harden his resolve. Whenever he has had people, whether it be

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Chechens and so on, engaging in terrorism against him, he has always

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had back pretty hard. If it did turn out to be the Islamic State who have

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made this claim, which has been denied elsewhere, if it did turn out

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to be damned, you might well see Russian involvement in Syria stepped

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up and who knows what the consequences might be -- to be

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damn. They've got the black boxes. It could well turn out to be an

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awful tragic accident. It seems more likely. We just don't know at the

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moment. The Guardian, President's gamble on fear pays off. This is

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looking at what has happened in Turkey. The AK Party lost his

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majority five months ago and had another election and they have won

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enough to govern alone -- its. Since the last election, there has been a

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lot of instability in Turkey. Several terrorist attacks by, it

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appears, Islamic State. Although it is possible that the governing party

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were conniving in this in some shape or form. There has been increased

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aggression towards the Kurds in this increasingly divisive conflict. This

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story is getting at that. That resident Erdogan -- president, has

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used the conflict to per try himself as a strongman who can suppress all

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of this -- portrayed. This article says that Erdogan calculated he

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could turn the vote around by playing the, if you don't vote for

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me, you don't know what you might get card. They know what they're

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going to get if they don't vote for him, a lot of them. Also the media

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was very much in his favour. That's because he crashes his opponents.

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But the trouble is, this is a very conservative government that has

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taken over, and I am a bit worried about the position of women in

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Turkey in the future. They prefer to have one party and government rather

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than the coalition, so it seems. The Daily Telegraph, one in four cancers

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diagnosed in Accident and Emergency and if that is where you are

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diagnosed, you often don't have long. My best friend was eventually

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diagnosed in Accident and Emergency. Only a third of people

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live for a year or longer. We have to get away from this at the moment,

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where people don't really know what cancer is. Personally, I don't think

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the government's campaign on cancer symptoms were very good. I had bowel

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cancer 20 years ago, and the kind of symptoms that people list, tiredness

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and losing weight. If you are waiting for that, it is highly

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likely you're going to die. We talk about cancer as if it is one thing

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but it is so many different types with different symptoms. Precisely.

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But how many people know what the symptoms are? Me! I note you do. But

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there are people who are less expert then you -- know. We have hundreds

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of cancer charities and we found it years ago that we were among the

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worst in Western Europe according to awareness. We have to get away from

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what we are doing at the moment, which is expecting GPs to diagnose

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them and pass them onto good services. A lot of people don't want

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to be a burden on the NHS unnecessarily, today? And they know

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because we are reporting it all the time that the NHS is creaking at the

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seams -- do they? This is the interesting paradox. On one hand we

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have people going to walk to GPs and inundating their surgeries with

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often, allegedly fairly minor ailments sometimes and GPs can't

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cope with the number of people turning up. And at the same time,

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the stores just the principal problem is not the GPs are not

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diagnosing it, but it is down to the average person who waits at home too

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long and then turns up when it is too late. I don't think there is

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evidence for that at the moment. I'm just talking about what the story is

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saying. They are saying people go to Accident and Emergency. We are going

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to page three of the Times. This is a 14-year-old boy who was in New

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Zealand fan, tell us what happened to him? He ran onto the pitch to see

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the New Zealand winners, this 14-year-old boy, and as the New

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Zealand player, Sonny Bill Williams, gave him the winner's

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metals. He got smoked by security guard. Completely. He got completely

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flattened by the security guard, and a rugby player turned around and

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picked them up and then gave him his metal which is obviously fantastic

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although he seems to undermine it slightly by saying, I would have

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given it to the security guard, but I picked him up and gave the medal

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to his old lady. That is a bit of a gaffe. His mother is probably 35.

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Look at this height difference. Sonny Bill Williams and that kid.

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That is something he will never forget. It made everybody very

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careful to see that happening. A lovely story. -- tearful. And it was

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so nice that they won when they have such nice people playing for them.

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Very nice way to end back to. Sentimental.

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