17/11/2015 The Papers


17/11/2015

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Belgium next week, who has been denied the chance to represent his

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adopted country. Hello and welcome to

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our look ahead to what the papers With me are Tom Bergin,

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Business correspondent at Reuters and Journalist Lucy Cavendish,

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who writes for the Times. Images

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from the England versus France friendly at Wembley is the choice

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of many of the front pages, the The Telegraph chooses another image

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from that match and mentions the security fears that caused the

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evacuation of the Hannover stadium. Another picture from Wembley

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on the front of the i but the main story is about David Cameron's

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decision to press for another vote The Financial Times looks at

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Russian President Vladimir Putin's instruction to his naval commanders

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off the coast of Syria to establish contact with French forces

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and "work with them like allies". But its main story focuses

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on Barclays and allegations it The Guardian looks at the airstrikes

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against Islamic State, saying the Paris attacks have spurred

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international efforts to crush the organisation. The Mirror says

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freedom is the winner after tonight's football match in London.

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The Daily Mail features a picture of a police officer at Wembley, whom it

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likens to the film character RoboCop. And, The Times says

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international airstrikes against Islamic State mark the closest

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relationship between Russia and the West for more than a decade.

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Let's begin with The Times. Like so many papers it has a picture from

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Wembley, but the headline, united against terror. Who exactly is

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united? They are using the picture obviously to show the fact that the

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football match has brought people together, and the French national

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anthem has been sung. It was a moving experience for everyone, and

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I think it has pulled people together. But more than that, what

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they are saying is that Putin is now coming on board because of what

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happened with the bomb on the aeroplane, and that actually they

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will join in with Europe against Islamic State, and whatever that

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means, which obviously will become a bit more clear when David Cameron

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presented to the Commons and they decide whether they will say yes or

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no to airstrikes Syria. It is all happening very quickly, it is all

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quite complicated and it feels quite panicky, really, I think. There are

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people on the run from Paris, there are cells in Belgium, and there is a

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feeling of shock, I think. It is very interesting, Tom, and we will

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see that over the course of looking through the papers, but all the

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papers essentially have the same story, and the tone is to some

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extent reflected in the headline somewhat up it. Yes, and the Sun is

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upbeat as well, saying that the match going on shows that terrorists

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will not win. Making those comments, we are hostages to

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fortune. Actually, does that mean that terrorists win because the

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match was called off in Germany? We can't use the usual cliches we

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sometimes use around these things. It is a situation now where there is

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a heightened state, if the package is found people will panic. Will

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that change and fade as time goes on, it is impossible to know? It is

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interesting the Sun has dedicated front and back pages to this story.

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I think they have got it right, you can really get the feeling of it,

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David Cameron and Prince William were both there, so it was quite

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risky. It is an ageing image -- in amazing image. Here we have this

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picture of the female RoboCop, I think this is someone who made an

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appearance at Wembley this evening. This is quite incredible, I was so

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shocked. She does look like a robot, and she has gloves on and armour,

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and she seems to have a lot of guns and you can barely see who she is.

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On the one hand you think, I will feel very safe if I'm standing next

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to her, but on the other hand I thought, being a female, I wonder

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how long it took to get all that on. Just the practicalities of it,

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that must have taken sometime! I'm sure men are also wearing it, it is

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not just women, but the idea is that she looks very tough and

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invincible. Tom, according to the Mail she is part of a 130 strong

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Scotland Yard squad, which arrived in huge armoured vehicles to throw a

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ring of steel around fans. This was appeared to be necessary, and that

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is a sign of the world we're living in. Obviously the UK has a police

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force that doesn't use guns. Not any more we don't. It also means there

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is a huge cost, and the kind of measures that happened tonight, can

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this be a regular occurrence? There is a certain percentage of GDP we

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spend on security, quite a small one. There are plenty of countries

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where they spent 20 or 30% of their funds on such things. There is a

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real cost to changing where we live our life and living a life in the

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way we did tonight. Obviously this is a particular thing that happened

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tonight, this can't happen that every single event that ever

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happens, it is impossible. Obviously the PM and the heir to the throne

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were there, and you don't want anything happening. It is a sort of

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act of defiance in a way. I was mentioning at the beginning

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the contrast with The Times, this headline, continent on the edge as

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fear takes its grip. What did you make of this? This is quite an

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extreme one, obviously people are anxious. In terms of the total

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significance of the people and whether they should... The fact that

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there are couple of going around inspiring this level of panic around

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Europe, I'm not sure about that. Even if you catch these people, the

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infrastructure involved in this kind of attack is not so enormous that it

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can't be replicated relatively easily. That is probably the most

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fearful issue. A lot of people disagree about that. Security

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officials say it is extremely difficult to organise an attack like

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this, and it is unlikely to happen again quickly. I suppose you have a

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bomb attack on a plane and this attack in relatively short periods

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of time. The cancellation of the match in Hanover looks fearful from

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the outside. Once it starts, this fear that we are all a target it is

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very difficult to know how that will change and how people will feel

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safe. Moving on to the Guardian, and Tom you mentioned the reference to

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the Hunt possibly now in France or Belgium or across Europe for a

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second suspect. Tell us a bit about how they have approached the story.

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Obviously this is the issue about finding those responsible, that is a

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key part of the story. Many of the attackers died in the attack so

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there are relatively few people. It will be interesting if they can find

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these people to get more information about the infrastructure and

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architecture behind this attack. The hunt is on, there are concerns that

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may be one of the individuals may have gone back to Syria, so it is a

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highly uncertain situation. Interesting Lucy is the reminder

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here that one of the French football players, his cousin died in the

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Paris terror attack. It is very sad, and he says we must unite against an

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enemy that has no religion. On to the Financial Times, but they have

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made this their central focus. Vladimir Putin saying that France is

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an ally. I can see the point behind that because they have both been

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attacked, obviously in very different ways, but in terms of what

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is happening in Syria, they are both following a slightly different

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agenda, and how they are going to pull that agenda together and agree

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on an agenda is something... I have no idea how they are going to do

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that. It is interesting that they are saying that because obviously

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they are supporting very different factions. I'm not sure that there is

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a fraction... There are so many factions that yes, Putin is

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supporting Assad, but what everyone else is supporting a slightly

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opaque. Yes, they overlap on one subject, ISIL, but on the issue of a

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sad they are opposed. Underpinning a lot of the aim is politically around

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Syria and ISIS is that you can have a solution in Syria, and if you have

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stability it might be more difficult for them to operate. But there seems

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to be a different agenda on how you get there. You have the rhetoric

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that they have attacked us and we will destroy them, but I think that

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maybe then they will become un- Allied. On many of the front pages

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is Charlie Sheen, and his admission that he is HIV positive and was

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blackmailed to keep it a secret. This is quite a confusing story,

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because actually it looks like he spent about ?10 million on being

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blackmailed, and I was trying to think why he would spend ?10

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million. I imagine it is because he might have a lot of lawsuits

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following him now, if he has had unprotected sex with other women.

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They can potentially probably now sue him, so that is probably why he

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has not gone public until now. I imagine he went public because

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someone got wind of the story. It has been a difficult time, I

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imagine, and he has had a very difficult life, and this is where it

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has ended up. It'll be interesting to see how much sympathy there for

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him. Yes, there are some who are quite sympathetic, but some of the

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tabloids are already saying, raising issues about whether he was totally

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forthcoming about the women he has been with. There are potential

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criminal issues in a lot of jurisdictions, if you knowingly have

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sex with someone, you are open to manslaughter charges in some

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countries. It is a complex legal area. Time has caught up with us,

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sadly. Quite sombre tonight. That is the world we live in at the moment.

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Thank you both, it has been great to talk to you. Coming up next,

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Sportsday.

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